and without explanations, without official, public apologies, then it is also, it is not just a provocation, it is a specific action of one russia against poland, against nato. and the russians , as soon as there is no answer now, they will go further, they will continue to launch 100 km deep, and it will be a shame not only to the poles, unfortunately, but also to the whole of nato, because they are so toothless and so they are tolerant, until it flies, excuse me, to your yard. or your father's, that's why all the maneuvering, they will end someday, and it's time, i guess, to thank jans stolton for his great contribution and work, because the time requires a different leadership, the secretary general, this is not a technical figure who will simply voice nato's common position, yes, there are many limitations, but in such conditions of war , one must be much more prompt, more courageous in order to lead , therefore he does not cling to it.

in fact, we should thank him and satisfy his long-standing desire to leave this post, because the way nato is reacting poorly now can end badly for nato, and as the us president said, this is how it should be repeated by other allies, european , european allies who are helping a lot now, they got involved more, started to produce weapons, but everything is still the same, it is not the same, not the involvement that we... expect from the countries that are responsible in the first place for european security, the usa is not the first place here, and here i can agree with the americans, europe must fully share this responsibility together, so many questions about these joint actions have matured, we need now joint air defense points, maybe joint training points on the territory of ukraine, well, there, at sea , there in odesa, in ochak, in odesa. i think we

need joint training centers, pilots, pilots and so on, that is, it is not a base, as russia has done on the territory of belarus, but it can be done, everything allows, i am not talking about what is now in the in connection with such shelling, we need to very seriously ask the usa and our partners for help in speeding up the implementation of our missile program and cruise missiles, er, neptune type. which can there ship anti-ship missiles, their production and extending their distance, and those missiles , as we know, well in the public space grim-2 or sapsan in the national name, extending their distance for the production of such missiles in ukraine, or possibly next to ukraine together with the involvement of other countries, and most importantly, now it is necessary to raise the question very seriously, about

not yet, well, maybe not the use, but the production and accumulation of stocks of missiles more than 1000 km, from at least more than 1000 to 1500, that is, this is the question, this could be our weapon for the future, a weapon of deterrence, and this you can't call it a failure, as nato is now is redoing its strategy, that is, nato is changing its strategy, i have a question, why do we then... change, we are not allowed to change it, we need very different approaches now, we cannot constantly eliminate attacks on our territory, because downed objects, they still cause harm to civilians, we need to hit the landing ship with ammunition or whatever, we need to hit the places of deployment, bombers, we need to hit the military objects on the territory of russia, on the territory on the territory

russia, and because otherwise the russians will understand their strength, their weakness will only encourage them to further destroy the ukrainian people. we need to rethink and convince our partners , we need the means, if you say so: must be stop, you must give us everything we need, and everything we need - everything we need, and several hundred attack-coms, several f-16 squadrons , taurus rocket winged. we need everything except nuclear weapons and you can provide them, we may have strategic bombers, the most advanced weapons, we have you don't ask, give what we need, don't delay space intelligence, give us a real in real time opportunity to fight, because you know, all the accents are now in the space of discussion, mobilization, well, that is, the number of the army, yes, and this is not the only issue, and where is this army, if there are 5,000, 400, and what will it fight? that is, there are a lot of

positives now, how many training programs have been done now, how much the americans are doing for us, so all this must be combined into a powerful fist for the next year to give... putin, in a figurative version, because yes , until you get to the point where he simply gets what he is at the gates of st. petersburg, leningradsky, he appreciates it, yes, he has this psychology, well, he appreciates power, he respects power, and give him strength, then, then he will stop, that's all, this is a simple answer that our partners should have understood a long time ago, and they are beginning to understand it so sluggishly, yes, it drags on, yes, but still they already do. there, you see, well , you read the statement of joseph biden, the statement is powerful, very powerful, action is needed, yes, well, the west simply cannot get used to the fact that he is dealing with petersky gopnik, who, you mentioned these under-the-doors, what he said, because i studied his interviews, which he

gave, through mass media, or means of propaganda information, he said that... if a fight is inevitable, one must strike first, that is, his psychology is such that if he understands that he will be struck, then it is better to strike first, and then understand what to do with it, or not understand what to do with it, that is, he always uses this one tactics, he always strikes first, as a gopnik waits for a flight to come to him, and it does not come to him for a very long time, it does not come so kindly, and he goes even further forward and uses this psychology of the gopnik. but it is obvious , well, when we talk about whether he will go further to europe or not, because there are already different statements by the minister of defense of germany, boris pistoris , that germany needs to prepare for the fact that russia may end up in europe , and

of course, we monitor what information appears from the one who is near putin, or these showers that appear. for example, in the japanese publication nike, you probably saw this information that during a meeting with sydzenpin in march 23rd in moscow, putin told the chinese leader that he would fight in ukraine for at least 5 years. he didn't say if he would live, it's true, or if he's going to live to that period, five more years to live, but he 's going to fight, how do you see... what, what he's articulating, and whether this is also, well, informational gopnichestvo that he tries to demonstrate at the highest political level and to be such a kid, the word of a kid, as they say, or is it connected with something else, he

has the hope that he will break the west and say that , well, listen, the west is weaklings, i and the rockets already i let in poland, shaheda in romania, but they can't answer me in any way, because i'm a boy, i strike first. first of all, no one in the world, including putin, knows how long the war will last. secondly, 5 years of readiness to fight at the level of today's intensity is a bluff, it's a bluff, unless it costs a million 3-4 people. it’s easy to kill here, you can stretch it out, and it’s all about time, so it ’s definitely a bluff, they’re all betting on the next year, you can see it from the way they ’re approaching now, even this shelling is massive, and it’s in this same strategy , he wants

to push for what is called a total war in order to defeat the opposition, yes, you say, is he attacking there, russia has already attacked european countries and countries for a long time. only this war is taking place in the space of cyber security, there are attacks on our infrastructure, but there are also cyber attacks on nato countries, this has been repeated repeatedly, and i will tell you that now in the new concept they equated an attack, a cyber attack on one of the nato countries, in accordance with the fifth article of the washington treaty, and there have already been such attacks, but there was no result yet, that is why he is attacking, and with chemical weapons, we that we do not remember, poisoning by russian special services has already been proven. citizens of other countries, in fact, already in britain there have been cases of chemical weapons, bombings of those people who provided weapons in the countries of central and eastern europe, ukraine, they blew up those people there who were responsible for the sale of weapons, yes,

that is, they are waging a war in europe, it’s just that this war has not become large-scale, as in ours, and in fact, i’m not, i’m not changing my opinion, they’re all the same, putin really wants it, not only putin, but also patrushev , for some reason we are a collective like putin, there are enough people of the same composition. even the hawks who have gone crazy like that, something is propaganda, and something is their position for a long time, that is, they have already, you understand, they have backed themselves into a corner in the sense that the continuation of the war is their survival, but with power in russia and preservation regime, but china doesn’t need one, they , china don’t need a war with just a war, they need the weakening of the usa, and for russia to play on this, and china’s goals in the economic plan, they are sinking while the war is going on, yes,

they are already there in russia, they already took everything they wanted at dumping prices, but they do n't need it any further, they have economic problems, they need to trade, and they don't want to be like putin, to have such a taurus on the forehead of such a war criminal, and we support a war criminal, that's why they support the chinese there putin's victory, if only quickly, but... no, this story has already dragged on and china, of course , will not be there on our side, but putin will not be indulged like that, because putin already depends on tsidzenpin, and not the other way around, there is one moment, putin actually started bluffing a lot recently, he usually avoided lying in his days there, well long ago there after 2005, even in 2014, something like that... often, as he started doing it in the press -conferences, let's say, lie, bluff, change versions, so it's his

was in favor of denazification, then suddenly he said , you see, to seize territories, factories and all that, he said so, to seize territory, it is not so bad, and he smiled, that is, he does not care, in fact, he does not care what, what he says , he doesn't do it anymore, it's all produced for him there, propaganda, he wants... to get equal conditions for the new distribution of the world after, well, not the war that was, the cold war, and in principle, the third world war, which has not started, but we are already on the verge of regional warriors there, and the same process will continue to develop, so he wants at the expense of of such a policy of war, to get his piece, but he is very wrong, i think that neither china nor the usa will give him, after... that statement about 5 years, if it was there and not a fake, then in principle, well, although this is a respectable japanese

woman, but you know, one woman told another, someone told a journalist and we got what putin said to sydzenpeni, can you imagine that someone witnessed what putin said to sydzenpeni, i will tell you, such things, such a plan is a secret, mobilization possibilities, a resource of the country, putin said everything... i will fight for 5 years and we all believed, but it is not done like this, that is, someone said, i think, i can say, and i think that tsenping told putin, listen, you have six months, show me now what you will destroy ukraine, if you can’t, i’ll screw it up, i’ll finish it, i won’t support you any further, let me put it this way, let’s promote it in the world, these are all non-official data, and that’s why i think that they don’t have such resources, no , their enemy is not the same... everything is not very good, as, as we can see, where the holes need to be closed,

therefore they will be bluffing, their airbag was designed for a couple of years, what they have accumulated, the production they will start, yes, they are starting, but there are no components, the plane fell today, it did not fall , well, sat down, sat down, sat down on the river, on the river, but they will fall, they will fall, because all these, they gathered one of the three there, and now all this... refuses, and all this will continue, and putin is not a fool, he is all understands, it's great, he just wants to push and play with such confidence, ostentatious, ostentatious, where was that confidence, when the beautiful woman was going to moscow , they shoved this confidence somewhere behind the kremlin, and did not know what to do, and such and such black swans may still fly in, oh, very good, then we need to help these swans create conditions a little, and not just declare. that russia is so self-confident , it will defeat everyone, this is a bluff, this is a bluff, no, i respect

, let's say, the capabilities of the enemy, because it must also be calculated, but i can say that these capabilities have not increased compared to the past last year, well today, they will only decrease, our opportunities , we have two options, or if our partners put a joint smile, they will radically change the situation, now, well, two years ago it was... it was difficult to do, and now conditionally 60 planes will make a result, they can make a result, now 300 rocket towers and 200 atakams, or vice versa, can make a result, what? well, maybe not before, but now, when our armed forces, the defense forces have withdrawn so much of the power of russia, when the black fleet, the black sea fleet is thrown into the east part, you saw, there were no calibers during this attack, the largest, but there were no calibers, and why not, but in order to destroy those carriers that were either driven away, that’s all, and that’s how you have to act with bombers, that’s the strategy,

if we all accept, well, well , don’t dare to do this, make it so that we have access to all occupied ukrainian territories, so that we have 500 km, make it so, so i am sure that they have it now after that putin's attack will be the opposite of what putin expects, i think it can push on the right path, well, since at one time, after the shelling of critical infrastructure in the winter of last winter, there was information about the f-16, that there would be f-16s, that is , putin... did not expect this, putin was waiting for the ukrainians to go on protests and they will start protesting against zelensky there, and the opposite reaction was from the west that ukraine should be helped more, ukraine should also be helped with regard to critical infrastructure. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who who is watching us now on these platforms

, please like our video or it was trending on youtube, i see that there are a lot of people watching on youtube, but not everyone has liked it, don't be shy, like it, don't save up, like, like so that this video is seen by as many ukrainians as possible and not only ukrainians. in addition, during our program we conduct a survey, we ask you about whether russia will go to war in europe, yes no, if you are sitting in front of the tv, take smartphones, vote, yes it is 0800-211-381, no - 0800-211. 382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, and vote on our youtube, mr. valery, one more thing, some statements have been made literally in the last few days, there is no point in talking about medvedev, because he again, as they say in the people, that a sober person's mind

is the same as a drunk person's tongue, well, it's about the same when he said that we will come to odessa, we... we will come to kharkiv, we will come to mykolaiv, that this is kyiv, that these are russian cities, and that everything must be done so that they are not marked with yellow and blue, and that we will hold negotiations only when we destroy the bander regime, well, that is , very, very much what he said, but the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation sergey lavrov said that the peace formula is, i quote, the fruit of a sick person. imaginations that russia will not even agree to. let's listen to what lavrov said, because it was the final interview of one of putin's henchmen, and i think it's worth commenting on. now the west already wants already looking for ways out of this

situation, but ways that would allow ukraine to declare victory anyway. and the goal was to force them to sign up to the zelensky peace formula, which is just a figment of a sick imagination, because it would not be written as a vignette, food security, energy security, the main thing, russia, leave the border in 1991, give crimea , give donbass, and in general we will arrange a zone of exclusion. mr. valery, here is a direct conversation with russia, it is russia with whom it expects to conduct direct negotiations, no, not with zelenskyi, i understand correctly, well, this is not about

surnames, they are generally from ukraine, not from ukraine, well, how do they imagine. it is they who sit down with america, at the negotiating table as equals, and there they solemnly put away their ultimatum: withdraw all troops from the territory of nato countries, well, from poland there to slovakia, but leave us the territory that we did not occupy, well and even there, we leave the zaporizhzhia nuclear power station behind us, that is... the logic of the occupier and it is possible it looks like this now, but i assure you that after the summer of 24 everything will be different. and what will happen in the summer of the 24th year, well, excuse me, because now they are sure that they

will get the occupied territory, they even think that they can move on, they are threatening, recruiting additional strength, but they have some money for the fall, i think it will be difficult for them. to do two goals at the same time: to reassure the russians there , i won’t call them people, because i would say that these are already people who simply do not exactly not civil society, and they think that they will have enough money for this social contract, as i understand it, sometime before the fall, before the elections in the usa. i think that if, and i really hope, their hopes fail in various on... areas after the summer, well, in the fall , let's say, yes, let's be more realistic, the fall, they will come to an end, and their resources are purely financial, they can no longer contain inflationary processes, well

, on the contrary, there will be fluctuations, very severe in the conditions of isolation, and if they cannot now, then when they want to bring it to its peak the pressure of total war, if they oppose not only ukrainians, but all our partners, cannot be overcome. then we will get a different situation in the autumn of next year, i didn't say about this year really, because honestly, and you know it, when they talked about huge opportunities, we will be in the crimea, i was quite silent, i did not evaluate these facts, now i can to say that next autumn, as if on condition, if the us and its partners change their approach in strategy, well... in strategy, can you call it, well, in strategy too, that is, but in tactical actions and in dynamics of arms supply, quantity

, even in some additional actions, well, they exist, and we can talk about them, i partially touched on this, well, for example, i will say this, i don't see any problems, let's say, i see a problem in the fact that we somehow we are treated differently if us destroyers in the red sea shoot down yemeni ones. missiles that fly into israel, so why can't the same be the case, well, i said, on the border with poland, yes, the air defense systems, well, you can ask the question more broadly, this is a threat to nato, that is, you can do it without entering the territory of ukraine, there have training centers, without doing any, without getting involved with their army, but much more, getting involved more deeply in opposition to what joseph biden, i will remind you, also said, must be categorically stopped, therefore... under all such conditions, i think in in the fall, we will come out in a completely new situation, and we will dictate the conditions there, not lavrov, who

has not been a minister for a long time, but he is a propagandist, and he needs to spread the word now that russia is stronger than ever, and we are all there we will win, well, medvedev was there for that, i don't like something about medvedev, he left something out of the loop, but where are his statements about, as he said? there is none before that, because if there is a problem there, i will tell you, but i will tell you one thing, i already did it a long time ago, but in my time, when we talked with the russians, very often all the leaders were silent among them, yes, they have russians, they have there is nothing russian, they have anything but russian mixed in there. these are the biggest chauvinists in russia, these are the national minorities who have made it to the army

of the leadership, these are the biggest chauvinists, that's why, well, there are also ukrainians, by the way, to be honest, there are ukrainians by origin, here he is a ukrainian, a russian chauvinist, and why, we have to prove to this police, dictatorial, authoritarian regime, i am mine, i am mine, i am more of a chauvinist, and where will they run immediately, as soon as putin weakens, see. everything can develop very, very quickly, so we have to hold on, unfortunately, this is our fate, that is, to endure it all, and we have to, well, not publicly, but to have such a conversation with partners now, to have a conversation, we cannot say, if not we, then you are next, yes, because clearly we will be to stand in defense of the country, there were once such ideas, at one time to frighten other countries that migrants will pass through us and be with you, we are in favor of this... we will not, we know our responsibility, but you must also take it upon yourself responsibility according to the type of this war, it is a european war, and until it became regional, in a large sense.

of this word, where poland, germany, france, britain are involved, that is, until it became so, you have the opportunity to use that motivational, still motivational, people in ukraine in order to jointly make success and achieve a result, and yes, lavrov, it will be the de-occupation of ukrainian territories, whatever you say there, well, it must be said simply why they are always called to a common cause there. like a heritage , because they have nothing else, if you take away from them this rhetoric that kyiv is the mother of russian cities, then they will have nothing at all, they have no history, no religion, nothing, that is, what they could to be proud, well, this is historical, you know, they have it, you know, it’s better than me, they wore it to the tatars, unlike kyiv, where there was resistance and yes, they passed in 2000

bc... well, in the 13th century they conquered, yes, they passed through kyiv, but no one obeyed, yes , they burned it, and what did they do, but they forced the tatars to submit there to these orc nomads , what will they be called, because they lived there, well, they say the mongol-tatars are not as bad as we paint them today, but in our imagination, they are conquerors who passed through this territory, so these are all moscow princes, they bowed down. under them, moreover, it turned out that they have mongol-tatar blood, but they all have their own history, in they have the history of muscovy, they don’t want it, they shun it, they don’t even want to mention it before peter i, yes, who is there, it seems like they are all there, but look at who peter the first is in his genealogical tree, and you will understand where primordial moscow has gone, and they are closer to the tribes

of the steppe nomads and... to the north, yes, to these tribes, than to the kievan rus, they know this, they know all this very well, they want to steal the history, the identity of another people, because their history was, unfortunately, the one they are forming now, an aggressive one, misanthropic and slavish, but they want to steal the history that we have, which is completely different , european, with dignity, yes, a difficult situation, because there are such people near us ... unfortunately, we are on such a geographical policy, but you have to fight for your identity , you have to fight for history, and by the way, don't give them any reason to steal here, because this will also be part of the 24th year of the war against ukraine, because it's a total war, it's not a front, it's the whole country and against the whole of russia. thank you mr. valery, to you for the conversation, it was politician-diplomat valery chaly, with the coming new year we will already meet in the 24th year in ours.

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goodbye. why exactly now, for how long has russia been stockpiling missiles in order to strike ukraine so massively. we are talking about this on bbc news ukraine i will make a living from london, i am evgenia shedlovska. russia attacked ukraine with drones and various types of missiles. lviv, kyiv, dnipro, kharkiv, zaporizhzhia, smila were under attack by dozens. civilians were killed, more than a hundred were wounded. let's start with the international reaction to this one of the biggest russian strikes on ukraine during the full-scale war. in addition to condemning russia's actions, western partners promise to strengthen ukrainian defense capabilities. so britain promises to...