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such a surprise for you, i think your criticism of espresso was a little premature, you will change your mind now. so, about the russian special operation, in particular, you can also watch in the documentary about the russian operation on the polish border. and the author of this tape is mykola knyazhytskyi, he carefully studied the situation, visited both sides of the border, met with polish government officials, and asked ukrainians. ministries, in the film you will learn about the real reasons, goals that are declared and hidden, about the impact political confrontation in the middle of poland, the reasons for the inaction of the previous government, and why the new government cannot quickly resolve the situation about the organizers of these protests, about the real beneficiaries of this blockade, the tape can be seen on mykola kniazycki's youtube and you can also watch it on the espresso tv channel today at 21:00: 30, actually this... about the 600 km border that connects
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ukraine with europe, about the fifty people who blocked this border, and about who is behind them, what is the network of agents of influence, who are these people, what were their statements about ukraine before, what russian narratives are they promoting now, what is happening on the polish border and how to unlock the corridor of life for ukraine, in fact , you can find all these answers to these questions in this tape, and besides , we will also talk with the polish journalist marek sierant about what is happening on the border, and about the russian missile that flew into poland and stayed there for a while at 40 km, polish territory, flew over, was there for 3 minutes in a word about everything it will be and also will be about what is happening with epolish, the ukrainian service of polish radio.
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because together with all the state media that the new government closes, the work of this service is canceled, and many ukrainians who ended up in poland were actually listeners of this radio station, so marek šcherant, a polish journalist, we add him to our airwaves and welcome him to to ours, in our marathon, we are glad to see you, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. marek, you see, even the audience says why don't you talk about what is happening in... in polish-ukrainian border, that in poland they are talking about what is happening on the polish-ukrainian border, a new government has already changed, and ukrainians who follow the political situation a little have high hopes for this government, in poland there is much less talk about the border than in ukraine , of course, because poland has its own, yet other political problems, there is a transition of power from the former. opposition to the current
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government, there is a very difficult cohabitation with the president, there is a change of elites, so in fact in the key, one might say, resorts of poland, but the poles live a little on those topics, less pay attention, of course, to what happened on the ukrainian-polish border, but that's how it really is. from time to time in the media or somewhere in public there are discussions about this provoked by politicians, and of course some people think that the protesters are right, some think that they are not, but everyone seems to agree that something is wrong, that poland should do more to protect our industry, and here i have to say that...
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on both sides of the political barricade, such opinions are heard, donald tusk also spoke about this, only he said in soft words that he will do it assertively, not aggressively , that is, there is some way out here, well, actually , tusk is already talking about this, by the way, tusk will be at tvp for the first time, today , as far as i understand, after... 10 years, when he was there, he was actually not present in the bathhouse, that is, we also see that there were problems with freedom of speech in poland as well, it is so a little strange to us, because for a much longer time poland was for us a model of just good democracy and freedom of speech, well, but we also have problems to a certain extent, of course with censorship, i think, by the way, that the viewer was referring to the numerous reports that signals are now coming from the border, specifically from the ukrainian side, that the movement of ukrainians seems to be complicated. such
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male citizens across the border, even those who have many children and have different permits, this is definitely what we are talking about, but this is definitely not a question for our current interlocutor. mr. marek, in fact, yesterday, during a massive russian attack, one missile flew into the territory of poland, and for 3 minutes somewhere they calculated that it was on the territory of poland, and actually ukrainians who survived this massive attack yesterday and spent a long time in shelters, some lost their homes, some lost. of their relatives the largest number of people in a long time 39 during 39 people died yesterday hundreds of injured actually what is poland's reaction to all this will it be any kind or will there be some kind of sharp response or just a rocket flew, well
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you think it was a russian rocket in the end it was because the russians they say that and you still prove , well, yes, the russians always say, even if you catch them by the hand, that they... are stealing something, then they say, it's not my hand, it's normal behavior, well, i'll say yes, abnormal, but for them it's normal, uh, that is, here what the russians say, if it's less important, what's important is that for the third time a missile flies into polish territory, which no one actually shoots down, and this is me as a citizen, i am not an expert on military affairs, eh, but as a citizen it is a little disturbing, and ah... the reaction of the polish authorities was very clear and fast, actually four hours after it happened, a press conference was announced, on the minister of defense, together with the generals from
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the general staff, informed the citizens of what was happening, and i needed such and such information and such behavior, because the previous government was somehow in no hurry to do such things. but one thing was missing, i was missing an answer when, and we, how long are we going to put up with this, and does it really have to come to a huge tragedy so that, well, we just started to shoot it down, and i remember that the ambassador is doing very well with us all the time of the russian federation in warsaw, i believe that this is the time the highest one, throw him out of here , let him go to his own... ship, where he belongs, he has no place, the saint of the polish land, a man who cynically looks you in the eyes and tells you that white is black and black is white, although all see what colors these are, let's not tolerate it for long, i think that soon we will have to wait
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for some kind of protests by polish citizens and pressure on our government, but regarding the rocket, i will say this, i will alert the citizen to what is happening, and of course, it is very sad to see how ukraine is suffering, because this tragedy, that happened, it also touches me personally, because i have friends and many friends in ukraine, i have an apartment left in the very center of kyiv, as close as it is now next to it, for the third time during this full-scale invasion, they broke down, there were no plans. disruptions and explosions, that's why i 'm also worried about my neighbors, my friends, of course, my property, eh, and i have to say that yes, commenting on what 's happening, ukraine should already think about a serious answer, maybe not how now,
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maybe not tomorrow, maybe not in an hour, but for several months to create such a weapon in agreement with the west, which was also talked about by the minister of foreign affairs shikorsky, who, when he was in kyiv, the minister of the republic of poland, in order to create such a weapon that could achieve goals on the territory of the russian federation, and to destroy their infrastructure, especially the dependent-road infrastructure, because we all understand that russia is a big country and only thanks to the railway it is supported by logistics. both militarily and economically, including, and i think this would be the right answer to the russian federation, not only military purposes, but also railways. polish media, what , what, what is currently in the polish media about ukraine,
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where is the news from ukraine, are they still on the front pages, because last year, if you remember the winter, i, mr. marika, very often for the polish media ... turned on, then it was my other job after work, which is true, on a volunteer basis, and i had such a very clear schedule drawn up for one tv channel, then for another radio station, and now in the ranks... yesterday, well two, two media turned, and it seems only because the missile flew four or three minutes into the territory of poland. what do we have to do to return, you yourself answered the questions you asked me, yes, unfortunately, i followed you on the air, i was proud of your polish language, very beautiful, if you broadcast and explained to the poles that , what is happening, it is very important, it must be done. eh, well, but unfortunately, even i am a person who knows enough, i think it’s good in
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ukraine, they don’t fall into the polish army, because ukraine, of course, goes further, further the plan, i saw, at the vigil, that is, on the holy evening, a wonderful conversation with our mutual acquaintance bianka zalevska, and ukrainian journalists and oleg miletsky and others. who work in ukraine, er, about what is happening, i sometimes see some inclusions, i see lifes, but as you say, there must be some, some reason for that, and among others, such was, was and the largest massed attack for all, for all the full-scale time of that war, and that is how we hear about ukraine, but...
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putin should not talk about ukraine, about ukraine was killed, and when societies forget about ukraine, now after that they will forget the politicians who represent these societies, who were elected by them, so our mission becomes difficult, but we will do it, we will be our personalities, our acquaintances, our influences, love for ukraine, for its territorial integrity and for the fastest possible and... as the most concrete economic and military assistance, perhaps
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to us, our, our authorities, we, as journalists, we, as a society, need to do something to return what we can do to return, there is such an opinion, there is such an opinion, i recently met with ukrainian journalists who work in the actual broadcasting of ee, well, even. this is not a program, this is actually almost a separate tv channel in the radio, polish radio for ukraine, and we discussed with several people that there is a need to cover news in ukrainian in poland, specifically for ukrainians, but when finding people who would work or at such a tv channel, or on media holing, which could be created with the money of donors, they could... also be experts who have in the polish language and reach polish society, there would be at least such
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a technical and meritorious base where it is possible to go a little further and carry out this mission, moreover , i believe that such counterpoints are also needed further afield, the further to the west, the more they are needed, ee and because we understand that ukraine is moving towards the european union, but how does it want to... convince, for example, the french or the dutch that it is not a threat to them, but is an addition to the european union, how does it want to convince these societies, these societies will confirm in the referendum that they want to see ukraine in the european union, it is necessary to start doing this work, i do not see such proposals yet, but maybe someday we and journalists in ukraine will meet together. to grow in poland, maybe we will ask our ukrainian and polish politicians and other
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allies, i don't know, maybe from business, maybe from other directions, to do it and promote it, draw up a project and start promoting it, i think there will be an opportunity before then , actually returning to what i started with here, actually that attempt to completely restart public broadcasting in poland, maybe they will also allow the creation of such platforms in order to... in principle have such an informational common policy, because i remember that since peace came to power, unfortunately, at the same time there were some positive moments of their own, and it's not for nothing, the poles probably elected them there, i'm here... i don't want to speculate on this topic, but i remember how i was extremely surprised when i was in krakow for the first time, i think i turned off the tv and i saw such and such, such and such a single one, which i have not seen before, where the journalist was publishing an absolutely manipulative report about the upivians and so on, and this is what i understood
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that the policy has changed, but about the upivians, i don't think that it... has changed, here we understand that ukraine and poland have a completely different historical memory uh, how about these, ah, these events, uh, but, uh, i'd like to see the public broadcaster as he is, when he leaves his views, his vendettas, his, uh, likes, dislikes behind the doors of the broadcaster you go to and work for, you have to light the glass that is there fill up. and to say about it that it is half full and half empty, and this will be correct, and not only that it is half empty or half full, uh, you have to show different points of view, and then there will be a social broadcaster, and i think there should be a place for ukrainians, too, because , look, we have 3 million ukrainians in poland, 3
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million ukrainians, 3 million people who don't have their own family, sir, but there was. polish radio for ukraine, and it is in connection with the fact that yes, but, but it, there is one moment, there is one point of that project, i don't want to devalue it, but it's a little niche, it 's here even when i'm driving in the car, i can't find, you know, it's that radio station, but it's generally closed now, yeah, well, well , unfortunately, but, but you have to think about it. how to make it possible for there to be some, i don’t know, tv channel financed by friends from the west and partially by poland for ukrainians who are in poland, because there is no empty space in winforpol, since there is no place in the parking lot in the center of the city, from that place, you're leaving, somebody the other is coming right away to your place, and we
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understand that not everyone who came from ukraine is super pro-ukrainian, super pro-european. we also have to work with those people, if we do not work with them, then someone robs them of propaganda, propaganda, we have, we have very unfortunate cases when children from ukrainian-speaking regions, having ended up in poland with their mothers, for example, who took them away, find themselves in in russian classes, for example, in russian-speaking ones, i mean, and in fact a child who spoke ukrainian all his life begins to russify in warsaw, this is some simple nonsense. to say that a ukrainian kindergarten is opening in warsaw , it will be, it will be easier, it is true that it is private, but it will be, keep an eye on it, because there are already such initiatives, there are even three ukrainian-language schools already in warsaw, there is simply no access to them, willing there are so many, but i ask for something else,
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the country, the language, the russian language, yes, i understand it all, but there is one nuance, it is possible. although for me it is not entirely correct, you can be russian-speaking and be a patriot of ukraine, i know such paradoxes in ukraine, you can be a ukrainian-speaker and be, for example, a eurosceptic, and you can even be a pro-russian people, but look , the situation at the border that was, showed how much hidden distrust there is between us, and among ukrainians, you you yourself remember all these throws. the internet was our brothers, but we are not brothers anymore, so someone worked on it, it just did not appear, so it is, it is a threat to our security, to our relations, to polish security and to the european path to ukraine, something is needed here to think together, because if we leave it alone, we will wake up just as i say
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with my hand, you know, in the bunk bed, and then it will be too late and my hand will be dirty. thank you very much for the conversation, mr. marko, marek shcheran, a polish journalist, was with us, and by the way, let me remind you that today at 21:30 exactly this topic was investigated by a tv channel, not the express tv channel, but the author of the tape, mykola knyazhyts, mykola knyazhytskyi, who made a documentary film and actually showed, traced who was behind all the blockades, who benefited from it, and the title of the tape is a pro-russian operation on the polish border, investigated in detail. what and who is and was behind these, in fact, about anti-polish and anti-ukrainian things that... happened and continue to happen, by the way, on the polish-ukrainian border, today at 9:30 p.m. there will be a premiere, well, that's it, we wish you all the best,
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you should stay with espresso, because further on the espresso airwaves, there are many more interesting things, in particular, lena chechenina, our cultural columnist, who has prepared for you program called war and culture, andriy saichuk and i will return to the air on the espressu tv channel and spend this day. tomorrow is the last day of the 23rd year with you, we will return at 7:10 a.m., and we will end our broadcast tomorrow at 5 p.m. we will also work with you throughout the day. thank you for being with us, thank you for donating, helping our military, thank you for this day, which passed more or less peacefully for our military, and that is why you should thank them with your donations.
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friends, congratulations, in honor of the holidays that are taking place in our country now, i decided to make ours today's program is more positive than negative, and well, in principle, it is logical, if we sum up the cultural life in 2023, then i would even say that there were significantly fewer truly positive... events, some shifts and very cool evolutions , than something bad, i already told you about the bad during the year, but now i want to focus on what we have achieved during this year and what changes happened in 2023, and i want to note that very often i observe that some trends from my point of view are incredible
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useful ones... more often they were transferred from 2022 and received their development, so we will talk about them, as well as about one controversial trend that not many people are discussing, some agree, some do not, it is about the concept of the so-called bayraktarshchyna, yes, which we discussed in the first year of the full-scale invasion, but already in this it received new choices, because the stars of show business in their large number with different... staves with different motivations began to support this one, from my point of view, completely inadequate inadequate expectations regarding the counteroffensive, remember how many songs there were that were dedicated to the fact that, let's literally in two months, we will already be drinking coffee in the crimea, already pack our bags, we are already leaving, buy tickets, but unfortunately, it did not happen as it was thought, and many experts, and political and psychologists in particular, they say that this
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is in... the creation of excessive expectations played a, well, not a very good role among, well, in general, for our society, many people were so disappointed that it became destructive for them, but let's start with my point from the point of view of a contradictory trend, but nevertheless a positive trend, which nevertheless sometimes leads society to a greater and greater consensus, i am talking about the translations of russian-language hits by our musicians, because... with the beginning of the full-scale invasion, musicians began to do it little by little, at first there was such, you know, the reaction that they are doing it there, and now we even see separate nominations that are taking place, that are present at various music ceremonies, for example, at the ceremony of awarding the muzvar music prize, was the nomination is the best translation of a russian-language hit into ukrainian, and there from my point of view...
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absolutely fair, you won the track you are incredible from the band quest pistols, i already know, i even forgot the words of the russian-language song, and i forgot what it was called in the original russian, you are so beautiful, so i remembered it now, but let's listen to these two songs now and compare how it sounded in russian and how it sounds now in ukrainian.
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wrote in ukrainian by the same poet who wrote the original, sasha chemerov, one of the best in our show business. however, there were many controversies surrounding even this song, which most people in show business recognized as the most successful adaptation, translation. personally, i will confess right away, despite the fact that i am absolutely in favor of this trend of translations, it seems that even in this third track, and the russian... well, this original text, it is much more demanding, more complex, there is a certain play on words, and sasha chemerov, it is obvious that he is one of those ukrainians who actively switch to the ukrainian language, he was russian-speaking, and maybe he is not i spoke ukrainian well, but in the end this song, well, let's say this , i said at the beginning that i had already forgotten what the words were in the original, but there were many such reactions, but...
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