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and the pressure rises, and i saw it with my own eyes today, approaches him, shows him the breather , he says, i have already run out of insulin tablets, he says, man, let me pass, yesterday a man was driving, ee, with a woman, i don’t know, what, he had some kind of operation done somewhere, and she drives him all the way when, some times there when, well, periodically, i understand, or something, for which he was operated there, i don't... know, and he was not missed yesterday no police, no, this one, no, well, no protesters, drivers who managed to leave for ukraine say that as if from all hell broke loose. 9 days, everything in the car is over, no fuel, food, absolutely everything , yesterday where the birthday was, the man in the cab was breathing, and life has come, meanwhile,... taras with a car loaded with chickens
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is still on the polish side, showing his simple life the kitchen uses disposable gas cans. a canister is enough for a week, here is a teapot, literally enough to feed yourself, eat some sandwich with warm tea, warm up. the refrigerator is already empty under my feet, what time is it already, because it is already food, all the products have been sold out for a long time. polish cars are driving. special cynicism: the strikers took our drivers hostage, and the police also issue fines to them because they left the territory of poland in a timely manner. i say, i can even show the document, written mandate, 1,000 zlotys for overdue delivery of the demet declaration, that's the situation, yes. already with
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a shout, i said, take away the car, take away the goods, i’m walking home in general , i say, people, i’m transporting products, dairy products, i’ll show you the documents, so be it please, yogurt, cheese, temperature +4 +2 there is not enough storage for me, i’m afraid, because now i will be beaten very much, the ukrainians say that if it were not for the police, they would have scattered those fifty strikers who occupied half a thousand kilometers on the roadsides a long time ago border, but for the first time he sees this: that the one who breaks the law and terrorizes two countries and the entire european union should be protected by the authorities. meanwhile, the government changed in poland, donald tusk's cabinet came to power. among his priorities, he named the resolution of the border crisis and emphasized that this crisis is imminent national security of poland itself. we have a hot situation on the ukrainian-polish border, there is a war there, this is a strategic place for poland. we will look for a solution. which should
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satisfy polish carriers, but also we will not tolerate any situation that would threaten polish security, no matter who inspired it. it was during these days that i went to warsaw, i wanted the ukrainian voice to be heard there, this is called inter-parliamentary diplomacy. unfortunately, our government very often ignores this tool, although many deputies have it constant productive relations with parliamentarians of the whole world. such informal relationships do not depend on protocol. therefore often more effective than official channels. we are in the polish diet, it was here on december 11 that the electoral revolution took place, so to speak. muravetskyi's government did not receive the confidence of the parliamentarians in this regard, and the parliament voted for the government of donald tusk. all these days i was here, we had fantastic meetings. we met with the president of poland andrzej duda, had a meaningful and deep conversation with the head of the polish senate, maloża kidawa blonska. we congratulated the vice-speaker michal kaminsky, worked with the entire committee. of foreign
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affairs with its head pavel koval. everyone promised that relations between ukraine and poland would be completely reset. i worked in poland for almost a week. i was convinced again how weak our communication with the poles was. even journalists were not always aware of the real reasons for the provocation at the border. i was invited to television and radio, i did not refuse, because i understood that only the truth destroys russian plans. a large number of meetings with polish politicians, each of which had to be deeply explained. why do we suffer from this blocking, a huge number of interviews and conversations, private conversations with journalists, all this is real diplomacy, which should be done by every ukrainian politician. the kremlin's posipaks got nervous and even tried to counterattack me. tomas buchyk, a confederation activist, wrote a post that the strikers blocked my private yacht at the border, although in fact it was a tay boss patrol boat - part of the american military aid. the main thing is that i don't care about such manipulations. what
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i managed to achieve the fact that this protest became toxic, its organizers failed to internationalize it, who supported it, four slovaks, and what hopes did they have that ukrainian trucks would deliver goods... to estonia and all the way to romania. the ambassadors of lithuania, latvia will be blocked in all countries, and estonia in warsaw announced a démarche at poland's ministry of infrastructure over the blocking of the ukrainian border, saying it undermines its ability to resist a full-scale russian invasion. at the meeting of the european council on of transport on december 4, 2023. moravetsky's government was supported only by representatives of orban and fitso. instead , the representatives of estonia, lithuania, latvia, germany, the netherlands, sweden and denmark declared categorically against the cancellation of the solidarity corridor. profile european commissioner , romanian citizen adina velian, called the situation at the border
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absolutely unacceptable, and accusing the old peace government of inaction, said: "the entire european union, not to mention ukraine, which is currently at war, cannot be taken." hostages, blocking our external borders this is a cultural center in warsaw, a gift from stalin to the polish people, from the russian empire to the polish people. we know the price of these gifts, the price of these gifts is the independence of nations. what is happening on the polish-ukrainian border is also, so to speak, a gift from the russian empire, and poland, and ukraine. after my return from warsaw, the minister of foreign affairs of poland, radysław sikorski, came to kyiv. it was his first visit. he spoke to our authorities. and about blocking the border, and about many other topics. the results negotiations are more than modest. before christmas , one checkpoint was unblocked, where a group of farmers were standing. they were assured that they were getting help from the state, although their demands were not in any way related to trade with ukraine, but the farmers
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threatened to resume the blockade if they were to fail. blocking of three other checkpoints continues, at the largest of them, yagodin dorogutsk, this blocking is even strengthened. on the eve of christmas, the polish minister of infrastructure came there. he promised the blockers that he would force ukraine to agree to the restoration of licenses, that is, he completely sided with the organizers of the blockade. and thereby only emphasized what was clear from the very beginning. it is not a group of people blocking the border, but the state authorities. the minister shared the armor with the organizers of the blockade as a sign of reconciliation before christmas. there were 10 of them there. instead, there were four people standing in line at three checkpoints. thousands of ukrainian trucks, but the minister did not approach the ukrainian drivers to share the equipment, although we already celebrate christmas together. it has passed 30 days after i wrote a parliamentary request to the ministry of infrastructure, and now on christmas itself, i finally received their answer,
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here it is: from this answer, it was understood that the ministry does not have any action plan, and the government and the president also do not have one. therefore, based on the results of my trip to poland, i will officially apply. to the president and speaker of the parliament. i made specific proposals on what should be done in ukraine. first, address the president of the government and the parliament of poland with an explanation that the situation at the border is a matter of national security of ukraine. second, hold a meeting of the national security and defense council and, based on its decisions, convene a joint meeting with the national security council of poland. the third is to initiate a meeting of the ukrainian-polish interparliamentary assembly to find a way. unblocking the border, the fourth is to convene a joint meeting of the foreign affairs committees of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and the republic of poland, and the most important thing that the authorities should do is to finally realize that blocking the border is a special operation of russia, it directly undermines our defense capabilities.
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greetings, dear viewers, on the tv channel studio zahid program , we will analyze the most important events of this week and, of course, we will try to predict what january 24 will be like, our guests today are the state secretary of the polish ministry of defense pawel zalewski and the famous political scientist who is in washington, andriy pionkovskyi, and now pavel zalevskyi will work on the air of the tv channel. secretary of the polish ministry of defense. greetings, dear mr. zelevskyi. well, first of all, i would like to congratulate you on the new one system of polish government, we in ukraine rely extremely on the new constellation of government. yes, and we are waiting for extremely powerful
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signals, because russian aggression against ukraine does not stop. if we talk about polish-ukrainian cooperation in the field of national security, what are you? now you see the challenges and what are the ways to overcome it, because at one time it was the republic of poland that provided us with timely, key history, timely military assistance. good day, greetings. good afternoon, glad to see you, very glad that we can talk and that this is one of mine the very first interviews immediately after i took up my post. there are two most important challenges, the first of which is support for ukraine. the minister of foreign affairs during his last visit, his first visit, it is very important and symbolic, mr. radoslav sikorsky made his first visit to kyiv. so during since that visit he has said that it is very important that russia does not win this war, and
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this is the position of the polish state, a position that has not changed since the time of russian aggression, that does not depend on which government we have in to poland, this is the position of poland and all poles, and nothing changes here, we will act successfully to support ukraine in the struggle, both diplomatically and in other ways. that russia not only does not win, but also that ukraine can realize its very ambitious plans, if we talk about membership in the eu and membership in the western security system, these issues are absolutely key, and secondly, we will work to strengthen polish unions, strengthen nato, strengthen cooperation with allies, both with the united states and with the european union. it is very important , i think that this is a subject that
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has not been used properly and fully by poland so far, namely, that cooperation with european allies is more effective, and these are my two most important tasks that i received and that i i will implement, well, on the other hand, we also have reality, and this reality is sometimes sad, in particular, we have seen now from... the blocked polish-ukrainian border. we hope in ukraine that the new government can quickly resolve this, but as far as i suspect that there may be some additional problems, yes, that may arise during, i don't know, in polish-ukrainian bilateral relations. prime minister donald tusk recently said that the polish government is close to resolving this conflict. i am deeply convinced that the solution. this problem, the blocking of the border, but also all other issues that led to that blocking, i am
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convinced that the cooperation of the polish and ukrainian governments is needed here, but also the positive participation of the european commission, and i am sure that this issue will quickly will be resolved dear mr. zelewski, i would just like to remind our viewers that you are not only the state secretary of the polish ministry of national defense, but you have also been a member of the european parliament for years. european policy towards ukraine, so we received an extremely powerful diplomatic signal, in particular, it is about cooperation, about the start of negotiations, or rather negotiations, about the accession of ukraine to the european community, but there is still a question of money, it is a question of tens of billions of euros, and we know that in what situation is our ukrainian state. budget, that is, if the united states can freeze and the european union will not be in too much of a hurry to
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allocate funds, then we will have colossal social problems in ukraine. i am convinced, in the end, i talked with the american partners, that this issue will be resolved in the american congress, that those funds will be provided to ukraine. and in this case, i'm waiting for it to happen. i am convinced that it will be so. but, of course , we are talking about cooperation for many years and support for ukraine for many years. it is not only and exclusively a matter of one year. and the support from the eu side, next to the american support, is absolutely key. we will talk about all this within our government, but also with our european partners. how to increase aid for ukraine. money is needed for the state apparatus to function normally, that is clear, in the conditions of war
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, ukraine simply needs financial support, but also support in weapons and ammunition, and this is one of our tasks to create an even more successful aid mechanism for ukraine in these issues: weapons and ammunition. we are working on this and will do so in cooperation with the ukrainian government. so i assure you that for us the issue of preserving the ability of the ukrainian state to fulfill its tasks and preserving the ability of the ukrainian army to defend ukraine is absolute. well , these issues are key, priority, and for our government , these issues are not subject to discussion, well , accordingly, when we talk in general about ukraine's progress towards the euro-atlantic community, not only towards the european union, but the euro-atlantic community, on the one hand, we know that putin regularly sends certain signals through his closed channels with
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the demand to prevent such a possibility, on the other hand, we understand that when we... talk about the security of ukraine, it is possible only within the euro-atlantic community, yes, and the key story, we understand that soon there will be the nato washington summit in six months, and we hope that ukraine will receive not just a signal, but very specific security guarantees. we are working on it. ukraine, we are over it we work ukraine should be included in the security mechanism of the west, and the war, too. this is also why the war broke out, when, on the one hand, putin and russia wanted to block ukraine's path to the western community, to the place where ukrainians want and feel like members of that community. ukrainians did not give up and confirmed that they feel part of the event and want to be
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members of western institutions. and all western aid, including to poland, boils down to the fact that... poland and the west, the united states, the eu and nato did not agree to putin's demands. and they support ukraine in this war. the whole logic of western politics is to support ukraine. so that she herself could decide where she wants to be, in which international system. and in this context , it is logical, and is an absolute consequence and result of the great support that is taking place. from the west for ukraine, and for ukraine to be part of the west's security system. if we are talking about details, then they still need to be discussed, but the principle is also the most important, it already works, because without a wink countries of the west that ukraine is part of the west, is a democratic country, is a country
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that recognizes the same values, there would not be the kind of help that is taking place today, so... it is already happening, instead, of course, if we speak about the future, we have to make concrete decisions together with the ukrainian government, in which way those guarantees will be implemented, but they, i repeat once again, given that support, huge support for the ukrainian state, for the ukrainian army , are already being implemented, and so to speak, for example, about hypothetical models of these security guarantees. whatever they might look like, this is not about specific security guarantees for ukraine, but in general, what models could be used, i can say about the goal, because it is the most important, the model is only such a technical implementation, i know that it is very important , but a technical implementation of the goal, and
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the goal is for ukraine to be a sovereign state, independent of russia and sovereign in relation to russia. i don't know if russia would like such a model, but ukraine would definitely has the right to make sovereign decisions in this case, and the entire western community supports ukraine, so the goal, the goal is that ukraine. truly sovereign, and to be able to choose allies, and this is our goal, to support ukraine in this, so that ukraine is successfully and sovereign for years, and this is the most important thing. this is an extremely important point, and if we talk, for example, about certain specific points, in particular we are talking about polish-ukrainian military cooperation.
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i won't talk specifically now, because i don't either i really have this opportunity, but i want to say that... sending ammunition for the ukrainian army is not only our polish, but also our european priority. we will act in this area, which also applies to polish-ukrainian cooperation, to make it happen. we are well aware and understand ukrainian needs. we know how difficult the situation is and will do everything we can to help and meet those needs. and what goals do you think putin has set for himself ? we understand that the russian economy managed to survive, despite... powerful sanctions, we understand that cooperation continues, i don't know, it is safe and not only with the countries of the middle east, that is, with iran itself, we understand
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that cooperation between the russian federation and china continues , that is, there is a feeling that russia is preparing for greater provocations, in any case, we understand that the baltic countries very clearly sense a possible danger, despite the fact that estonia, lithuania, and latvia. are members of nato. i can tell how we read them in of poland, and it will be very detailed. we read and interpret them in the context of the statements of the russian federation, which were made before the russian invasion of ukraine. where it is mentioned that the russian federation wants to control ukraine, wants to control belarus, but also to bring to the situation in which the country. of central and eastern europe, we are talking here about the baltic states, but also about poland and other countries, will be removed from such an effective functioning mechanism
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of nato, i.e. will be such a kind of gray security zone. of course, we do not agree to this, because as a democratic country, as a country in which there is the rule of law, we want to be guided by it in international relations as well, and we want it. so that every state has the right to speak sovereignly about its needs. therefore , i believe that russia's goal is, firstly, control over ukraine, and secondly, it is a certain form of finlandization of central-eastern europe. we do not agree to this. there is no reason for this to happen, neither the poles nor the other peoples of central-eastern europe want it. who in the west does not take it seriously and does not is considering nato membership is a membership that provides security guarantees, real
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security guarantees. i do not believe in this, there is no such possibility that putin would risk a provocation against nato countries. the consequences for russia would be catastrophic. i am not talking about the economic consequences, but about the military consequences. it is simply impossible. nato is a space of security. membership in nato provides internal security. today, nato is the largest alliance in the world that guarantees security for all its members. it comes from a mutual declaration, which is consciously accepted, no some narrow group that governs certain countries, peoples of nato countries, with the help of democratic institutions of nato countries. we are also interconnected in large numbers. economic and social interdependencies, and putin knows about it. putin is a rational politician in his own way. he makes
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mistakes, well, such a mistake was the attack on ukraine. this error was made possible by the wrong data he received. unfortunately, it happens that dictators, and putin is one of them, receive false data from their people and do not have the opportunity to verify this data, because they created themselves. such a system, but he is not crazy and will not risk attacking the territory of nato, the territory of the baltic countries, especially, taking into account the military presence of nato on the eastern flank, it is growing and will strengthen. it does not intensify in such a provocative way, it is not about putin having arguments and theses, or one of his courtiers having arguments and theses, that nato wants to attack, no. the land of a country that
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belongs to nato, and there is no doubt, no one can have doubts, this is the whole logic of this union and those obligations, so that an attack by russia on nato countries is impossible, instead, we... must do everything so that russia does not win the war against ukraine, and that ukraine defends itself and can be part of the event, because this is what the ukrainians want, and this is part ukrainian identity, and it cannot be defeated, no one will defeat it, and putin will not defeat it. dear mr. zalevsky, but there is the problem of the american elections and there is the problem of donald trump, well, and accordingly the key story, so that in... on the topic of security, we hear
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different opinions, we hear different statements of the candidates, who declare their participation in those elections, we also listen very carefully to what mr. president trump says. we are aware of the weight of the united states for the entire international security system, and we know that the united states is an integral factor, an integral part of the world security system, and no one can for... the united states, but we also know, and this is also mr. president trump knows that there are certain logical limits, certain possibilities beyond which the united states cannot go, so refusing to help ukraine, withdrawing from europe, this meant making a decision, according to which the united states ceases to be the world hegemon. become a great
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power, because it would be a signal not only for us in poland, in ukraine or in europe, it would be a signal for the whole world, it would be a signal for australia, for new zealand, for american allies in asia, and mr. trump, or someone in his circle, or someone who is a candidate in the election, does not want to lose this function, does not want to give up this role. because it is very important for the united states, so we must seriously analyze it discussions that are happening in the united states, we have to draw conclusions and we have to know the reality of what is possible and what is not. if we talk about the cooperation of european countries within the framework of nato, within the framework of the european union, and these are the institutions that mutually complement each
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other. there is no doubt that the role and cooperation of the european community should be strengthened. there is no doubt that, despite the situation in the united states and the signals coming from there, that europe must take more of the responsibility for security on its territory we believe that this is a very valid opinion, and we will work on this vector of strengthening european cooperation when it comes to security. it is clear to us. poland fulfills this role, and the results of the recent elections, i hope, will only increase the effectiveness of our actions. and this position is the position of the previous government, the current government, and the entire polish people. we want an increase in european security guarantees and we want our european partners to do the same. so, summing up, i consider it
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necessary. increase in european responsibility for security in europe. it is necessary to work in this direction. we also understand and hear what is happening in the united states, but we believe that despite the declarations that are being made. the united states will not retreat or reduce its interest in the situation that is happening in europe. because it would mean that they become a country that locks. does not have such a desire, therefore we do our part , continue to work, keep calm and support those americans who understand the responsibility of a great power in the whole world and what the united states is, but let's not panic, because there is no reason for this at the moment. thank you very much, dear
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sir. state secretary of the polish ministry of defense pawel zalewski. if possible, because the new year is coming soon, i want to wish ukrainians peace, peace and love so that you can enjoy it in peace, i wish you this. wow, i went for a walk, water, there is not enough ordinary water here, drink reo, i am saving myself, reo, you are ready, dear, ready, i took reo. reo - water for special medical purposes.

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