that civilians died in belgorod? you know, ukraine systematically destroys those objects in russia that contribute to and cause and help russian aggression. we don't need to look for any words of excuse, we don't need to look for any words to say something extra. in addition to what we have already said: if you, russia, had not attacked ukraine, you would have been fine, not a single russian would have died in ukraine, and you would not have had your air defense system working, as a result of which your people were dying, and pity the fact that this simple logic, sometimes again, under the influence of emotions, political emotions, political discussions, sometimes... do not want to understand,

including people who live in the free world, in the countries of our partners, and to this day i was also somewhat surprised by the reaction in the new york times, but it really shows that some of these journalists, they don't take the tragedy to heart, they don't look for the root cause, and they want to give themselves a simple answer, well, the aggressor is russia. it is very surprising, by the way, that in this, on this, on this first column, here again, to go back, if someone may have paid attention, it is illustrated this zaolok, illustrated with a picture from the bombing of zaporozhye on friday, that is, they write about belgorod, but zaporizhzhia is shown, this is some kind of manipulation, i think we should also be here, you know, not to look for additional ones...

because in this case, this situation does not have additional colors, it is black and white, ukraine defends itself, defends itself when the russian attacked it unprovoked federation, and in this case we should tell, tell and look for some arguments why we are defending ourselves and whether we have the right to defend ourselves, well... i think that it is completely inappropriate when the second year of our, our armed struggle is passing. once again the journalists of the new york times decided, what is called, to catch the hype somewhere, but they do not understand that it is hype in the blood now, and i do not know, it is unlikely that this journalist will be proud of these posts of his, and the newspaper will be proud of his posts.

in a few days i hope, well maybe in a few months, because the american society, it realizes that who is guilty, who should be responsible for the crimes, and in no case will it accept the tone that this respected newspaper has now allowed itself. we have a few more minutes left to talk, mr. ivan, why russia decided to communicate to its society that what happened in belgorod is because of their bad... they just don't do anything. of course, they, for a long period, they have been justifying their crimes against ukraine for a long time by the fact that this is how ukrainian air defense works. and now, it probably sounded a little rude because they tried to accuse us, ukrainians, that we are actually hitting theirs. yes, their air defense system worked

brilliantly because people died, peaceful people, yes, relatively peaceful people, if we can talk about peaceful, peaceful people, there are aggressors in the state, and that is why they most likely saw that they were slowly put in the crosshairs , and perhaps it is necessary to prepare the population first, what if as a result of ukrainian air defense ukrainian people die, that's normal, but when russian people die as a result of russian air defense, it's not normal, and here they are... it's clear that they nailed this story together in a hurry, but they didn't have time to make these explanations, so i'm not looking for any other here are the reasons, they explained tens of times, if not hundreds of times, that peaceful citizens die in ukrainian cities, as a result of blows after blows on infrastructure objects, by the fact that they fall into residential buildings, which they say the ukrainian air defense, you see, shoots down russian missiles that fly in completely different objectives. there were supposed to be ukrainian military

facilities, tanks and artillery, but in fact , the children got into another kindergarten or school, sir. thank you for the conversation , happy new year to you, let's meet the military service of the armed forces of ukraine, an expert on national security, ivan varchenko was in touch with us, we are going to take a short break, come back and continue talking, we will talk about today itself, because today in connection with the fact that ukraine has finally returned to its calendar, according to which it used to before the bolsheviks came here and spoiled everything for us , they celebrated holidays, today there is lightning, tomorrow vasyl and... and if ukrainians are dressed for the new year, then they dress in lightning and vasyl, lead a goat and give generously, just the moment when you can sing our the most famous shdrivka, shdrik, a pause, then a conversation,

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dear friends, we are coming back, and now we will talk about... about the new, new year, now we live without the old new year, will it be able to overcome all these soviet traditions that have come down to us and are still holding fast, all christmas lights, all kinds olivier, uh, and others, all kinds of traditions created by the soviet union, we will talk about it with anzhelika rodnytska, a cultural figure and the author of the christmas territory project. family strength, okay, let's say hello to angelica, congratulations, angelica, congratulations

, i'm glad to hear from you, it's great that we meet and talk about important things, really our family strength is in our traditions, in our culture, in our attitude to the world, in ecologists, ukrainians, our ancestors were fantastic in this sense, and we still have to learn and learn from them, live in harmony with the world, and here i am on facebook on... it reminds me of how i literally wrote a couple of years ago that i can no longer watch tv and already foresee that in the new year i will see that marmiza kirkorov on all the oligarchic big channels and new year's lights, olivier's propaganda and all that, but something has changed even in russia, kirkorov has now been banned and even you say that he was cut from the new year's lights because he came in underwear, i'm sorry, for some reason '. oh, let's not talk about them talk, they are not worth it,

let's not talk about them, let's talk about the fact that it was a reality quite recently, but today, for example, one of the russian publications is popular, i will not advertise it either, it is in general with us access to it is closed and that's right, but for work we have to read such things, so they have, for example, a huge material today, which is called we would return that time, and it is a material about what the class was like. this is how she teaches us, because some of mine did not need to be convinced, and some still need to be convinced

to convince, and russian rockets do it best, what we could not do about cultural figures, media people, progressive people, real ukrainians, we could not convince with kindness, gentleness, er, gentle ukrainization, with our songs, pictures, films , because we did it very gently, very tolerantly, very much from the side, or defensively, we need to advance, just as enemy missiles are coming at us now, so ukrainian culture needs to make progress, take bold steps forward, make bold steps towards the world, while that we are taking a step for to myself, but i would really like for us to really move into the position of such ukrainian cultural...expansion in the world and introduce more and more different countries to our traditions,

our culture, and our artists, because this is also our way to people's hearts , who are forced to help us, and our gratitude to them to show themselves beautiful and good, and of course a way to receive more and more help, because we still really , really need it, there are many problems in our country. angelique. why lightning and vasyl, and not santa claus and snow maiden, here's how to convince ukrainians, that ukrainian is not something rural, something very archaic, er, something like that, but somewhere there in the village, grandmother had it, in principle, it can be modern and it can be such that we can even impress the world with it, well, because it is not a thousand-year history, that is why it is easier for us, for centuries ukrainians

cherished and protected their traditions, and not even soviet times, nor all kinds of other cultures could destroy ukrainian traditions and ukrainian malanka, so today we have lightning, and finally that old new year moved to the new new year. and now all this coincides at the same time, in the same way, this is the time of honoring ancestors, this is the time of family strength , this is the time when families gather together and recreate what was in the life of our ancestors, why is there such a din in the countryside, for example, in chernivtsi, they say that everyone must go, go and see it, i didn't see it in person and only watched the video, but of course, as an ethnologist, i am interested in all these things, today

we gathered for a generous meal, finally the tables were not empty. and the ukrainians sat down all together for a big table and celebrated, welcoming the new year. well, after that, the vatags gathered , they prepared for it for a year, because they needed to change clothes, in fact, it is such a ukrainian carnival, and in this, yes, this carnival, it was all over ukraine, you mentioned chernivtsi, now they will say, i now, i know that... that other part of the country, the east, where the soviet union came faster, no, no, i don't agree, i went to the east for many years, we used to go caroling, in ukraine, carols are very poorly known and generous, but driving a goat, sowing, caroling, at least carol, carol, carol, they still know, but there are people who know it

more widely, more deeply, and they share their knowledge now, and everyone ... who is interested , they can find a lot of materials, read about this ukrainian carnival, about dressing up, dressing up, because it is a fantastic, beautiful, theatrical event, which, in addition to honoring the ancestors, which we have already mentioned, first of all, these watagi went to unmarried girls, because i needed them to look around, see how she knows how to cook, how she follows traditions , whether she is old enough to... marry her soon, it was possible, well , they went to all the hosts, and they chatted a lot, especially chatted in people's yards and houses, who did not behave very well this year, for example, they could shovel a lot of snow under the door so that the owners could not get out, or they could

pull the cart out onto the roof, or remove the gate, or some other, well, they invented all kinds of mischief. and it was always so fun, funny, and so on wishes for the best , i.e., the basketings were mainly benevolent, and every ukrainian wanted the carolers and benefactors to come, because this is always the arrival of happiness in the house, the arrival and such congratulation with all sorts of goodies with... health, happiness , they wished everyone to be fruitful there are animals in the house, and that the family may multiply and arrive , that the wealth may increase, and in fact , in our carols and philosophies some fantastic things are described, there are golden chambers, horoms, wealth, there are beautiful trees that

grow, many things, what was not enough to the people, they... mentioned in these carols and gifts, but it was such a visualization, as they would say now, of those wishes, wishes that ukrainians wanted to have, but i just wanted to dwell on this real question of what it is rural and so on, i know that during the soviet union and tsarist russia, ukrainian culture was only left a place somewhere in sharovary and in a crown, boys in sharovary, girls in a crown, rural, back off. archaic, something that should be forgotten, and we have this trauma, which is the anti-colonial discourse, post-colonial syndrome and so on, we understand all that, but on the other hand, i simply want to say that even super-industrially developed nations such as the japanese, the largest number of inventions per thousand population, for example, and the dutch,

the netherlands and so on, all their traditions , yes, yes, we hear, we hear, but surely someone about... is breaking through to angelica and trying to call her, and that's why it spoiled our communication a little, and friends friends already hear and i'm actually saying what what what in the same way, all these traditions come from the village anyway some very small settlements, because there these traditions are preserved, they live and they are alive here, there is nothing, there is no problem with the fact that it comes from some village there, because, well, cities, it appeared not so long ago , let's say. and cities are different, these are already some cosmopolitan traditions, and this is exactly the night christmas, which gogol, he wrote it for st. petersburg and moscow, first of all, for the audience, he wrote: these stories and in general this collection, in the evenings on a farm near a wild land, near a wild land, he wrote it for 200 years therefore, for the city's actually

russian-speaking population, and it fascinated them even then, and it fascinated them just as much 20 years ago , why are they now shedding those tears behind those lights where oleg skrybka could hug kirkorov, they are because they have their they don't have their own dean, relatively speaking, they have their own... some one over there, well, where is that maniac who died in ukraine, their maniac who died in ukraine, now a tolu maniac, they have some tolu woman there is a maniac who killed 27 women, raped him they sent him to ukraine, instead of him sitting in prison, ukrainians killed him here , but they have tolun, but they don't have dihanka, and we also have generosity, by the way, ukrainians and belarusians have more. there are no other peoples who carol but are not generous, that is, this is our uniqueness, a feature, and it is so fantastic, beautiful, gentle, i don’t know

, so much, but as for the village, look, now all the rich people live, no in big cities, trying to live somewhere on earth, somewhere trying to find a place where it will be peace, where it is closer to the earth, where you can walk on a blade of grass... then our ancestors were happy people who had land, owned it and could live on their land, there was their own truth, their own house and their own traditions, we are now restoring it, and i would be happy if we stopped treating the village so disdainfully, by the way, i grew up in the city, but for me the village is a kind of beauty, well, maybe because there is not much work there. i just came to visit, but it really is always connected with holidays, with very tasty tables, with traditions, with

beautiful carols, carols, when the whole family gathers and sings together, and you try to wedge your voice somewhere in this choir and be a part of this great, beautiful, incredible action, this is about a beautiful incredible action, dear friends, if you want, if you don't know yet , poland , and if you want to learn them, because it was forbidden to celebrate christmas in soviet times, as well as the new year in that ukrainian interpretation, then you can watch anzhelika rudnytska's youtube channel, the project she presented this year is called the territory of christmas, the territory of christmas, the power of the family, here, by the way, about the power of the family, the audience writes about it, the viewer writes, we have always ... , always took part in the process from bringing dinner on christmas eve to getting ready in the morning, sowing probably

in the morning on st. basil's day, or another viewer writes: i remember this from my mother, caroling, sowing, well, that is, despite all these prohibitions, it is still somehow held, no matter what it is, whether it is the east of the country, or whether it is the west country, 100%, that is, it is conditional and artificially sloppy. the division of ukrainians , because it is traditions that connect us the most, when after the invasion of russia in the 14th year i went to the east for the first time, i was looking for a common language with people precisely because of traditions, i said: what is the name of the bread that is baked on passover , they say, well, bitch, angelica, i say, we also have a bitch, but how do you dye eggs, well, of course, and... we see you over espresso, it always

happens like that, another viewer writes, i remember, how kagibists caught carolers and beat them in the kidneys, wow, i don't know if in the kidneys, but the fact that the teachers were even sent away was what my mother told me about her childhood, her memories of christmas, they are absolutely not that vivid. and sunny ones, and such that it was necessary to go through some prohibitions and obstacles in order to enlighten it, then the teachers had to wear such red armbands, they walked the streets and made sure that sometimes the students did not go somewhere and did not carol , so as not to violate this soviet tradition, because it was not christmas, it is true, it is true, but even in kyiv on early 90's, late 80's, a chorus of hombres caroled to the generous people, they. they even went down to the subway, sang, that is, somewhere like that , i don’t know where else, they probably went from house to house, and we had a student theater, and we also made a nativity scene and went to our teachers,

to... our ukrainian artists , to carol, to be generous, for example, every year we came to lina vasylivna kostenko, and she said: "oh, and i already thought, this year you will not have and there will be no holiday." and by the way, you will be interested in this nativity scene, mykola and i went together knyazhytskyi, with iryna gerashchenko, with oleg panyuta, with oksana sokolova, with our diplomat e. mykola tochytskyi and with many, many other famous people who were just students at the time. we , too, when we were students, we had such a powerful nativity scene here in lviv, guests from kyiv came to us, they also took part in it, for example, the future ambassador of ukraine to canada, andriy shevchenko was with us in the role of an angel , they walked and were , it so happened that we

had both futures. for example, in this cradle of ukrainian press secretaries presidents, for one there is no shame in principle , but for the other so-so, i mean now darka chepak, who was then the press secretary of yanukovych and the press secretary of poroshenko, svyatoslav tseolka too, they all went together with vertep, in which i also i had the honor of playing moshka, there is such a character, now he is a little questionable, intolerant. you see, we also did everything in order, and we did everything with you , so that this tradition had continuity, and even such small nativity scenes are local there in some cities or villages, they allowed us to preserve traditions and not let them drown in olivier basins, but but it's important to remember, it's important to remember also

those who... without whom we wouldn't know what to do for christmas, like the 90s, when it wasn't it’s scary, but about those people who went with the nativity scene, for example, in lviv in 1972, and i’ll remind you that then, we recently talked about it on the phone, a mamchury woman, how she was with her parents, she was 8 years old, i think she was also an angel, an angel, she sang there in the nativity scene with her parents, with the little ones, with the dissidents, the future of this soviet era. poets, and vasyl stus came to them, and they were burned, and the whole, the whole ukrainian world with such a ukrainian-speaking intelligentsia then went to lviv, and dozens of people were already arrested on january 12 for participating in those nativity scenes with which they dared to walk around on the streets of lviv, they even replaced the word christmas with the new year in carols in order not to be so loud,

they all arrested everyone anyway. received prison terms in the 72nd year of her life, someone is just breaking through, breaking through to angelica rudnytska, we have a minute left , i don't know, we'll still have time to see how they perform the chedrik at the metro station in almaty, not in kyiv, in almaty, yes, i'm already getting a message saying that i can't find this video, friends, believe me, girls, from almaty, sing in sincere ukrainian language of our generous man, smiling, but no, a beautiful video opens, well, we probably won’t have time in this hour, so we will tell and show this video in the next one, well, just now, dear friends, the 15th is approaching, which means that there will be news, what has happened there in the last hour in ukraine and the world, iryna koval will tell us: iro, i congratulate you, you have a word. lesya, i also congratulate you, all viewers of the tv channel, in just a moment i will tell you about the situation in different regions of our country after. shelling

by the russians, so wait, it's 3 p.m. in ukraine, to your attention a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers. the russians shelled kirovohradsk. in the region according to the report of the head of the regional military administration, andrii raykovych was served time our defenders of heaven. but there is damage to the power line and granary. previously , people were not injured. and the number of wounded due to russian shelling of kherson increased to seven. four more men turned to doctors. two have concussions, the local military administration informs. during an enemy attack on the shipping area of ​​the city.