oleksandr irvanets lived in irpen before the full-scale invasion began, but the moskals temporarily exiled him to bavaria, but from bavaria he does not stop watching espresso, watching our airwaves, reacting to all this, he has a beautiful poem about how was the evacuation from irpen and from buchi, he now has a beautiful poem about i don't know about what, about vladimir putin and about his appeal. new year's, if you want, go to his page, read, by the way, about new year's addresses, medvedev addressed to russians and said that the main goal in the next year is to overcome neo-fascism in the world, well, since neo-fascism in the world remained in its pure form only in the russian federation, i think that this is, so to speak, a good wish of medvedev, we hope it is so, you see, manya , maniacs are not... fascists, everything, everything, everything

is disposed of in ukraine. dear friends, well , actually, about returning to the poem, so oleksandr irvanets wrote especially for us and for you, a poem that we want to read to you, just in time for the new year start, andrei, or what? what, start already? well, start, and then we 'll say something else from ourselves, no, or did you want to leave the very end? i think at the end , but come on, we can do it now, anyway, come on, come on, premiere live, a poem by a ukrainian classic, i will not be afraid of modern poetry, the ukrainian legendary literary group bubabu, under skarbia, it seems, that 's right bands, do you remember burlesque, mess, what? i forgot, my god, what

is happening to us, in the words of the literary group, where were irvanets, where were viktor nebarak, and where there was also andrii, my god, yurii andruhovych, in a word , i think three such great pillars of ukrainian literature of the eighties , in fact, and with whom we started the 90s, and here was oleksandr irvanets, burletsk, balagan , buffanada, buffanada, that's how it happened. names and titles, gentlemen, so the premiere, we are very pleased that oleksandr ivanets wrote this poem especially for us, and it is an honor for us to recite it, of course , please be lenient with us, we are not actors, no professional, no amateurs even, yes let's try, let's try, okay, well, i 'll start then, the electronic media and the press put this news in the center, so on... on the

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separate assault brigade with the call sign beard, we will not go into detail, hello, congratulations, indeed, we are recording this interview exactly at the moment when the third separate the assault brigade is located. and not at the front, because you are now working, improving, being equipped, and you will be back soon, maybe when the audience sees this interview, you will already be there again. at work, most likely in the same way as a sense of self i like the conditions of kyiv, on the eve of christmas, i am not one of those people who complain about the fact that everyone should live peacefully, since we are at war, i want to return home, return or to some place that is determined by my task to have a chance to rest. the stairs to go somewhere to the cinema, to the theater, to the club, i don’t know, for guys who

will get younger, that’s why i like me very much, you are a military environment, so polar in this position, because well, again, a very sensitive moment, it annoys someone, and it is absolutely clear, someone is happy and says: oh, i understand what we stand for, and in general, well, it’s cool that we can provide such a life at least in some... of our country, i think that the question here is exactly, well, there are two aspects for me, the first is social, that is, when a military man can afford something that an average citizen can afford, it is better , well, better, when his family is well off, yes, and when he returns home, everything is fine with him, in his psychological state , well, he is more motivated, he is not mad. what about the lives of ordinary citizens who are not

take part in hostilities, and the second aspect is - well, initial psychology, there upbringing, the psychological state of a person who was there before that, yes, yes, that is, i have there at the expense of all kinds of youth organizations in which i was there some kind of survey, which on... was acquired back there at the age of 14-17, well, i am aggressive in the other direction, in the direction of the enemy, and not in the direction of my own citizens, and this, by the way, has now been almost two years of a large-scale invasion and there under 10 years of war, this is what characterizes ukrainian now society, someone says that we started to eat each other instead of fighting the enemy, you are watching it, well... well, this is a classic of ukraine, we don't even need

dogs to throw at us, we are alone with a friend we will quarrel, inside we will blame each other, this is some kind of mentality story, the question is, is this a remnant of the savka, or is it already acquired by us here, i did not think about it , but there is such a thing, there is such a story, on the other hand, if we weren't like that, and wouldn't we have been russia then, well, no one quarrels with anyone there, all as a party pu said yes. i believe that this is the period that, well, we will come to it, and it, well, will either stay with us or not, it is more about permissiveness on the internet, well, that is, it is new for us, that is, no one has been there recently i couldn't do that, now dear grandma is coming out, if she has access there, she can do and say whatever she wants, and people started talking, i think at some point. it will just get boring and it will happen by itself somewhere, yes, this story will fall off,

the question is not to make stupid things there for this it's time to bow, hey, i'll tell you a little bit about our today's hero, the beard is a man who comes from the crimea, from simferopol, and he is a man who, as his brothers told me, stood at the origins, generally azov, of the azov movement, as like this, in 2017, but as they say, the azovians themselves and quite often the former do not exist, you still remain in this community, even if you represent or found other units there, i don’t know, of different types and forces of the military in our country , and the year 2023 and such a little enchantment as of ukrainian society by what should happen, in his opinion, maybe somewhere in the world. instead, we are in this studio now, and what has the 23rd year been like for you,

were you disappointed in some way, or in principle, did you not build any illusions for yourself? let me first say a little about azov, we, that is, we should not confuse units here, well, that is, when i left azov, i, well, i had some azov obds left there, yes, but i was... not in units, that is , what are you talking about this azov family, well, that is, it always remains, but azov, the one that is at the moment, these are people who have completely gone their way, and this... the topic is not necessary if it is them, but we have our own unit, which also has achievements, and but the family, yes, it is more social, more honorable, here goes the soul of honor, and about what i was thinking about, as here is

the summary of the results of the 23rd year, and i believe that we are alive. and we in this studio are already doing well, we laid out some plans of direct victory, there was no feeling that we were directly behind the urals in a masked exile, we are military, we, we have a task, we carried it out, tasks that were delivered separately from the steering brigade, were fulfilled at 100%, which were put before us this year, asks... to the fact that people are told that we should have won on the verge of victory, did anyone have any vision of the results of the counteroffensive of ukrainian, then there are two, two answers here: first, come and see for yourself why it is not as you thought, here, and the second is, we need to

put the country on the military track, what russia has done, that is, if we realistically... let's put ukraine on the military rails, then we have every chance to win this war. well look, in your opinion, does your thesis about the need to put the country on military rails not compatible with what you and i started this conversation about, kyiv on new year's eve, we started this conversation about whether i am angry or not angry with these people, that is, this is what is now, this is... i'm not saying that it should be like that, i'm saying that it is now, and it does not cause aggression in me, does not cause any kind of anger, god forbid, yes, but i believe that it should be different, we should do it as much as possible, that is, not simply to deliver, and every person in this country must do something every day for this

victory, and to do it there is not there, you can choose for yourself, yes, now, then, there, who wants to economically. front, who wants to go to some front, who wants to go to some front, no, it should be a state program, a single powerful machine that will turn into death for the enemies and our victory, ugh, and in the army itself now, well, that is, in 2023 , when it became clear that we need to harness for a long time and we will need many people for this one struggle, calls began to join... there, the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces, in general, especially since you know your strengths, you can find suitable positions, suitable work, various specialists are needed in the armed forces, and so on and so forth so on. won't we sooner or later face the fact that we will have, relatively speaking, all uav operators or logisticians there, and there will be no attack aircraft

left, or something like that? well, that's how i put everything in quotation marks, it's also a system, first of all. a uav operator is a person who has undergone some kind of training, not everyone can do it, this is a person in which, in which the money is invested, in which the forces are invested, that is, well, it is not just to recruit people, say, you will be an uav operator, yes, that is, that is, a person is there for half a year, he prepares, he studies, learns this science, after what does it cost to go to war, there are not so many positions, we have human resources, the question is that it should not be lost. yes, that is why we are constantly working on medicine, that is, a person will not go into battle just by being able to shoot, he will be able to do everything possible, and the brigade is their senior, as a senior chief, will fully ensure the safety of these guys who will carry out direct

offensive actions, if that happens, i will, it will be military rails, it will be there... this will be followed directly, that is, without losing human resources, we will be able to, well, more , well, the third oshb, when we speak, now it seems to me that there is no person in this country who does not know about the existence, at least of your brigade, because the information campaign is very apt and, in my opinion, accurate, many representatives of various businesses support you, and we see it every time you just go out... to the supermarket, and how did you manage to achieve this, well, that is, to create a certain brand and encourage people to join when mobilizing recruiting. specifically to you, i understand that there will never be enough people, but in principle there are quite a few who want to join you , as far as i know, well, first of all, this is a seraph

radio, well, that is, yes, again, we all, everyone writes posts on the internet, some of these , and people see, ah, well, that we are a little different, yes, that is, people see that how we develop, how we were able to in two years to put a complete subdivision, that's it. someone was hanging out with us, who has friends , someone is also studying somewhere there, he is being mobilized, i want to be in the third assault brigade, someone is right there, our contingent is exactly volunteers, and someone is looking for a place to go, here is a person who wants to, she monitors the internet and chooses where to go, then she stumbles upon us somewhere, oh, i'll go here, and then it has already grown into, oh, like a brand commander, that 's... well, the manager is also good, that's the commander's job, selection of personnel, in particular there are also people who are responsible for some media component, it works

, it works, eh, we have been talking for a long time about the fact that the most important thing is our people, yes, and this is how we differ from our enemy, i understand that things happen differently in combat conditions, and without losses cannot be avoided either, but... but for almost two years of a large-scale invasion, do we still stand on this, do we still have the understanding that a person above all else, that is, depends on the commander, i can only say for our commanders , well, our recruitment process is such that human intelligence is the most important, well because a person even here, well, if you don’t take humanitarianism, then purely from a military point of view, a person can react to any situation,

a person can perform the craziest tasks, if he is ideologically savvy, if he is motivated, that’s the most important thing, after the war, a person will be able to develop this country, the same, the same motivated person, therefore... people's lives are the most important, returning a little to the azov family, an extremely long and very dramatic tragic episode with mariupol, with the mariupol garrison in general and azov, how did you experience it and in general, how internally... you could bear all of this in general, because it is a crazy load, well, it was really a big blow for us, precisely the fact that we could not somehow

, well, really help for this, at that time i was involved precisely in the defense of kyiv, and well, we had something to do too, that is, we were fighting there, in parallel with our command, in particular... we were finding some options, so helicopters flew there together with gur, and dropped into mariupol volunteers, azov citizens and not only old azov citizens, but also a bunch of young guys who well, because of the ideologues, they also flew there, there were attempts, then unsuccessful, unfortunately, to break through to mariupol. somehow so, that is, you were still in all these processes in order to facilitate, further liberate, our comrades were there, that is, i don't know how it was for everyone,

it was the same for me, we did not think about the liberation of mariupol, well i, i didn't, i didn't believe in it, well, there were such a number of troops there that it was unreal, but we couldn't leave our friends there, ours, that is, this. it was a matter of honor, huh, but what does bahmud and the situation around him look like now difficult in the context that the enemy has taken the initiative and there are great threats that the gains, particularly of the third separate assault brigade this year, while you were there, could be negated, simply because the russians are pressing madly, it will not be pleasant. yes , i understand how much sweat, blood and everything else has been put into being an andriivka, a tick and so on, but, i... what about the fact that this is

a war, and there are situations when from hand to hand, then to us, then to them, well, look, predict something or talk about the tone, and how will you do it to feel, if so, well, how, somehow we will, well, yes, people, i am, we are military people, and in principle i do not understand the eyes of everyone there, well , such emotions as lunch or sadness. it will not be better for you the other way around, that is why it is easier to do something, than to just think about how bad everything is, the only thing that can be said is that it is high time for all of us to stop blaming , i don’t know, the industrious, the syrian, the cornerless, the president, someone also, start doing

something yourself every day. then we will have the right to do it, yes, and there will be a result, and everyone, at least, will be able to clearly say yes, here and there something was wrong, or here and there we made the best effort, but we were unable to complete the task, and therefore we always return to the same thing, well, we need an army, a normal military state machine, ugh, well, if you have already mentioned the military-political leadership? at the end of the year, there is a lot of such different information about internal conflict, how do you perceive it? i can't smile, well, these are hamsters in jars, there is zero result, the main thing is to it wasn't bad, i'm telling you, we like to lean on each other and blame each other, that's the question of what, what was done, and not who is guilty, why, for now. i’m saying

this ipso, or maybe someone’s stupidity, that’s what , well, in any case, it’s in the hands of the russian federation, so not only do i not accept it, but i also try not to look there , i turned off facebook and i can’t find you there, no no it is necessary, you can find it, but i am not sitting there, these facebook bubbles are toxic, okay. well , a few words about crimea: the 23rd year in the minds of many, in my opinion, rather infantile people should have been crowned with walks on the embankment there near shama at the train station in simferopol, i don't know what else. i am always, personally, a little triggered by such a conversation, because it is difficult to imagine a military operation on the scale of the liberation of crimea, well, that is , in theory, you can probably talk about it with the military, but my god, it is so much

sweat and tears again. blood and everything, and how did you feel, how did you feel watching all such media campaigns regarding crimea? well, first of all, nobody knows about the military operation in crimea. well, in fact, we are based on some of what we see, we saw how they took mariupol, but there the azov garrisons of marines stood to death, we saw how they took bakhmut from us, what kind of forces... they put there, but again, we were attacked by wagner, here we saw the forces and losses, the question is how it will be there, no one knows, well, that is, maybe it will be military there, a brilliant military operation to cover and that's all, maybe gur will be able to knock them out somehow in our own way, it will be a small special operation there, we will

we do not know. i don’t have the experience of conducting similar armies, well, i don’t have it, so predicting , saying, or saying that it will be a terrible battle, i won’t, maybe everything will be in the best possible way, regarding the crimea, i often, well, that is, i don’t the audience really liked it , now they liked how i lived there. how people live there, probably even now, but i would go back to the mountains, which i miss a little, and maybe some greenhouse that you didn't like when you lived in the crimea, well, which you still lacked, you know , that's right, well, silis, you know, i once traveled a little around the former yugoslavia, here on the slopes, and you go... to

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