barren, but beloved by god, ukrainian land. christ was born, let's praise him. news time on the espresso tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval. i welcome all viewers and now to the most important thing. the russians killed the child. the enemy shelled kherson again. at that time, there were children near the store. a 14-year-old boy died on the spot. the nine-year-old is in serious condition. he has a cerebrospinal injury - reported the head of the region oleksandr prokudin. the occupiers also injured two more women, aged 32 and 65. both are in the hospital. and

four s-300 missiles were fired by the occupiers kharkiv region. this is preliminary information from the head of the regional military administration oleg sinigubov. he has not yet provided other details. there are only a few hours left until the new year. someone will celebrate the holiday at home, in the kitchen, someone in a trench under fire. and in spite of everything , they decorated the christmas tree in the capital, the atmosphere reigns there, he will tell. our correspondent kateryna galko, katya, i congratulate you and tell me how the people of kyiv and guests of the city are preparing for the meeting in 2024. greetings iro, greetings to the viewers of the espresso tv channel. this year was difficult and probably one of the most difficult history of our independence. however, in spite of everything, there is a christmas tree in the historical center of the capital, on it from... very recently

, lights were lit, people are walking around, and we asked them if they plan to celebrate the new year, and everyone is absolutely against loud celebrations and big parties, many plan to welcome the new year in the family circle together with dear and close people, and many more do not plan to celebrate the new year holidays at all, i would like to remind you that this night will already traditionally continue... curfew, so if to celebrate, then at home. also, on january 1, the capital declared a day of mourning for all the victims of the massive missile attack by the russians on december 29. however, despite everything, people gather near the christmas tree in the historic center of the capital, they bring their children here, and take traditional photos. this is where we see st. nicholas passing, various holiday heroes. of course, this year was difficult, but we

became stronger, our armed forces liberated many settlements and kilometers of ukrainian land, issued an international warrant for the arrest of putin, and we have become one step closer to the european union, so we believe that in the new year we will have many more victories, and this is all thanks to our boys and girls who hold our front. iro, so happy holidays to you and everyone. i will transfer our viewers to you. katya, thank you for your work and happy 2024. i wish you all the best. it was our correspondent kateryna galko from the capital. well , you can convert your anger and anger into donaty. espresso tv channel continues to collect for help to the military, artillerymen, who will later go to defend our country in the east. a pickup truck is necessary to quickly and efficiently perform combat tasks. unfortunately, these cars are at the front.

often turns into scrap, is a kind of waste, so we ask you not to be indifferent and join the collection, our goal is one pickup for uah 250,00, there are already 211 on the account, we really want to close this collection this year, and i believe that you and i can do it, remember, every hryvnia is important, your donation is a contribution to victory. all of them you can now see the details on the screen. support of residents of avdiivka. police officers of the white angel unit brought new year's goodies and humanitarian aid to people. 750 loaves of bread and 300 liters of drinking water were delivered, the national police reported. despite the constant brutal shelling of the russians, the locals are preparing for the holidays. they should visit a christmas tree, albeit a painted one. they met the law enforcement officers with new year's greetings and words of gratitude. a brave man was celebrated.

police officers visited a man who, during a rocket attack on the capital, sat down in burning car and saved neighboring cars from catching fire. the law enforcement officers thanked him and presented him with a branded watch. let me remind you that on december 29, fragments of a rocket fell on a parking lot in the svyatoshyn district of kyiv. several cars caught fire, the owner of one of them was not confused, started the burning car and drove it away. because of this, the kyivan got burns and other people were saved by transport. for the second time , ukraine welcomes the new year in a state of fullness. large-scale war. to celebrate or not to celebrate is everyone's choice. public opinion and advice the psychologist was collected by our journalists. so let's see. before the new year. in the capital without the usual christmas trees, giants and hundreds

of lanterns. the weather is also playing along, the temperature on the thermometers is positive, and the streets are snow-free. people's moods are appropriate. kyivans and guests of the city are neutral about the celebrations. they are ready to celebrate, but only in the family circle, loud parties are definitely not the time. no, we are not planning to celebrate the new year. there is a war in the country, we don't like holidays. i believe that it is appropriate for those who want it, if these people need positive emotions, then why not, but i personally decided that it was not the right time. i think that if you sit quietly at home, welcome the new year, it is normal. for a little while, they sat down, sat, celebrated, and went to work on monday. first of all, loud words are immediately frightening. i think it's just right without loud, well, honestly, because i understand what state people are in, if we just talk about the celebration of the new year, and it seems to me that this is what allows people to switch a little to the situation that is happening around, for the second time ukraine welcomes winter holidays in state

of a full-scale war, personal tragedies , experienced events, the situation at the front , so not everyone can and wants to celebrate, however , the russians will definitely not be able to take away the new year's miracle from small ukrainians , and another aspect is children, and this holiday should be for children be, purely for children , not adults should be there, excuse me, get drunk and go sing there with a bottle of beer or vodka, some songs, and this holiday is only for children, because they are not to blame for what rashka is doing there, and we, in including, we also do not have the right to take away from them the holiday and belief in a miracle, yet. unfortunately, far from everyone has the ability to gather the whole family, thousands of our defenders are on the front line or are captured by muscovites. it is especially difficult for the families of heroes, and it is important not to forget this. such a card, thank you for the fact that your loved one died, so that my family

can now sit in a circle and celebrate christmas and the new year, it seems to me not so much, or to think about filing, or even that, it is not ... comforting , it will not help the state of man and his life. however, light always defeats darkness, so psychologists advise against it chastise yourself for being able to celebrate. celebrations are positive emotions, you can not celebrate it globally, just meet your relatives on the first day, understand and give yourself an answer to the question why i am here, why i... have the opportunity to celebrate, and they also advise gathering as a family , if possible, support family and friends who have a harder time than you, because they especially need it. this must be said sincerely: can i invite you to our holiday. do not expect that

person to explain why not, that is, she says: no, that's it, that's it. i'm waiting what if she comes, if you invite her, and she does come, that maybe she will start talking about her pain. our boys and girls who are holding the front will also celebrate as much as possible where they are and the boys have a festive spirit, under any circumstances, under any conditions, it is there and it makes me happy, it makes me happy as a psychologist, twigs, pine trees, christmas trees, in dugouts, at roadblocks, they bring their own, decorate with what they have. it is important to remember at what price we have the opportunity to gather family and celebrate the holidays together. behind it are human lives, cold trenches and

terrible battles. in the new year, even more challenges await us, and we will meet it with a common desire, which will certainly come true. and then the project own names with myroslava barchuk. we will see you at 6 p.m. greetings, good evening, my name is myroslava barchuk, this is a self-titled program, a joint project of ukrainian foam and the tv channel. today, my guest is anatoliy dnistrovy, a poet, novelist, artist, member of the executive board of ukrainian foam. anatolia, congratulations, thank you came to this front. new year's is a wonderful day , and russia does not betray itself, all the days before the new

year, having accumulated missiles, it showers us with all means of destruction, and missiles, and shaheds and so on, but it will be very predictable, but i decided to talk to you about another another defeat , as oksana zabushko said, today it is not enough to simply bomb cities, you can... build people's cities, and that is why anatoly dnistrovy and i actually decided to talk about information attacks, about special information operations, which actually arranged by the russian federation against us during the 23rd year, that is, these are the summaries of a year of russian narratives, as they were, and i want to start with such a question, when the war began, it was february of the 22nd year, a full-scale war, then they said, that actually this russian propaganda, it seems to have lost its influence on ukrainian society, on western society, but then somehow

it happened that we have seen it very strongly in the last six months, the last year, that somehow they learned, or is it possible you have a different one answer, and their propaganda and their ipso , which is called, became really effective, and it is felt in ukrainian society, why, what is the reason, i think that the russians , in fact, they... did not lose their pace, just in the 22nd year in their entire bet was on disrupting this consolidation of the anti-putin coalition, they, we remember how, through the mass media, they essentially demolished the draghi government in italy, they sent him out of office, so in other countries, for example, the johnson government , they also, in principle, applied very significantly to what he had the rating was falling. through the mass media, in particular, which are controlled by pro-russian owners, so independent

in particular, that is, they did not stop this pressure and the pace was crazy, we just had other tasks then, we may not have monitored it very much, or rather i will say incorrectly, everything was monitored, but we simply did not pay due attention to this, in fact, the 23rd year was very optimistic, that is, the first decade of it, about the first two quarters... but maybe the third quarter, about half of the third quarter, it was very optimistic vision, in particular both of us and of our partners, well, it all started with a large bar of information and optimism, which was laid in the eighth ramshtein at the beginning of january, which was declared in such a political sense by many countries of the west, as primarily aid and weapons, a counteroffensive.

they were in solidarity, with western voices, they were just, as it were, i would say so, yes, western leaders, and we, we were in the orbit of this, so to speak, this romantic there, or a little pink some kind of illusion that we will succeed in everything, and indeed. and many western strategists, and perhaps our fault in this is that the institutional strength of russian statehood was not calculated enough, that is, it was not added, unfortunately, by sanctions, yes, russia stabilized, that is , it had a big economic shock, but it stabilized , and of course what they became, we have to admit it, they became stronger, they already became stronger somewhere in the second half of the 23rd year and began to conduct

information campaigns more intensively and aggressively, that is, i want to say that it is very dense in them the process is not simple to some extent, they developed some schemes that ukraine is not a sub-state there, there is something else, these are general scraps, yes, and i mean that they got into absolutely all current issues without exception. complex, problematic , which arise in us, and they play them out , we will get to that now, but how do you now feel about that, actually, about these pinkness, pinkness in... which are there and in the west, that totally understandable, because after the heroic resistance, so obviously we were perceived as cybergs who can do anything to do, even with the small amount of weapons that we had, but how do you now, looking back, evaluate our rhetoric in general, let's say, in the national televised marathon, yes, where, as it seems to me,

there was a little, well, the reality was embellished, yes, when people were told that we were winning, that... they said, well, as vitaly dykyi, a former veteran, said very well, yes, and he now talks a lot about the military, he says that even when you call on the phone , then the answering machine says while you wait, yes, ukraine is winning, and everyone has the impression that you can wait, meanwhile the victory comes, as if something happens by itself, yes, so don't you think that... these inflated expectations were formed by us and the media , and the government, all together, that is , society has deceived itself. i fully share this opinion with you, because this is our mentality, whether we like it or not, we are, if not bad, very apocalyptic looking at the critical situation, and vice versa, if it is not only, it is not only the data from this agenda

, this is not our modern problem, it is there is still a problem. the cossacks sat there, conditionally also the hetmans, that when there is arrogance , it appears, when we relax a little, and somewhere our eyes become sad, we may not be aware of all the contexts of danger, that is, some kind of rationality, actually, i used the term rationality, i it seems we are really lacking in attitude towards our victories and potential victories, and future ones, as well as potential and future possible ones. damn, we don't have a rational attitude, we are a very emotional nation, we are swayed here and there, and that works very emotionally, maybe in this there is, in this there is, so to speak, this key, because again, i don't think, we don't have a historical program, historians can talk about it better, here and in this context,

knowing the psychology of our society, this is an excellent... positive ground for the russian special services and their agents to inoculate their bacteria here, the eyes that we call there ipsotam and so on and so forth, can you list the main, the main special operations that must be recognized were effective, at least some of them were very effective worked well, but in 2023, what were the ipso? there were actually a lot of russian ipso, both current and different. eh, and they worked in different ways, there are such that we cannot even direct their harmful influence on our society, it is unrealistic to do this, but you must agree, if everywhere, the innocent society is saying that the west will fight against the russians until the last

ukrainian, well, we understand that this thesis is nested and that is repeated, replicated, different there somewhere there on the markets there and so on and so on, that is, it lives in the grassroots society, and they work precisely on what is called word of mouth, it is a very great tool for them, it is one such influence , yes, and the second tools is that they also work against western consumers, in which way, they say, it becomes worse for you to live, you have a utility company. food , energy resources, inflation, all this is becoming more expensive because, because the war in ukraine, that is, they are working there, and they are working here, and this, and in principle, they are achieving great success, now, if we look, in in individual societies, in individual states, wherever there are already certain hesitations, and already some

such statements sometimes sound like doubts, which were not there before in certain countries. individual leaders there or prime ministers there or something else , here, that is, this, i say, these are such very successful, and such current things to say, well, there are a lot of them, that is, i can't even recall them even from memory , because it happens every week, you understand, but look, the center for countering disinformation determines the main topics about which russia uses them, and actually... in fact, these fakes are disperses in ukraine, therefore a protracted war, so that the war will be very long, protracted. the second is the ineffectiveness of the ukrainian counteroffensive, the third is corruption in ukraine. the fourth is unpreparedness for joining the european union. fifth - ukraine is against peace talks, and russia wants them. and the top topic is conflicts in the top

military and political leadership of ukraine. and also, well, mobilization has already been added. but look, any person who hears this, any ukrainian who understands and reads the media, watches television, he will tell you, that, well, it's not quite russian narratives, because some of it is. the truth, how does it cooperate, why do we call it russian narratives, if it is also reality, how does it correlate, look, this is when the simuty snyder explained this story of the hybridization of truth, well what is, how does the truth go there, for example in post-truth, be it manipulation or not, some fragment of the truth is taken, which is then twisted to a degree, made appropriate. the context changes and we actually get quite a bit, well, it's like in a lens, there is a focus and there is a blurred focus, the sharpness is reduced

, yes, that is, when it is blurred, the main thing here is that the manipulative strategy is to present all these facts, that is, there are contexts , there are contexts that can be worked with, they can be solved, and the russians present it according to this principle, well , besides, one should not forget that theirs are working for the same. i think their agents are working, which is here, that is, someone can deliberately do something that is profitable for them to pick up , to point fingers, as an example, for example , of what is in ukraine, ugh, that is, these are planned multi-stage special operations information and there , well, special services, so to speak, that is, what they do, they monitor the information space, yes, they work through their agents, they see that there... and there are painful places, and here i am reading , this is actually the same center for combating disinformation, they say that they respond, they have a response time of 2-4 hours, how do they

warm it up, you say, seraph radio, how does it work, through their telegram channels or how , i think, well, first of all, it works through telegram channels, because telegram channels, er, they are available to every person who has a mobile phone, and... the internet, this is the easiest way of media now for the enemy, that is to say, to influence people, primarily ukrainians. ukrainian state information , so to speak, politics, it loses to the enemy telegram channel, this, it is necessary to recognize this fact, it cannot stop it in any way, it cannot react to it, that is, there are no tools to fight it, here they are because of this, they pour in, that is, they produce with... intermittently, at such a conveyor level they constantly produce short videos , where, let's say, they produce our videos about mobilization not only now, once

the question of mobilization arose, it is already an ongoing, long-lasting story for them, so i will explain what we just showed, we just actually showed a list of those fakes that some russians spread and threw away during the year, but they can be shown again so that, just so that people understand that... everything is like that, and therefore telegram channels, our information, let's say, the policy is not enough, or too weak, it's just not even me i know whether she is too weak, or it seems to me that she cannot reach people institutionally, this is her main communication problem, she does not have communication skills, this is feedback, so to speak, the problem is even bigger, in fact in them now, as in... well, it’s like this, it’s not just a narrative, it’s probably a metanarrative, that is, it’s like a basis now, it’s very big and important for them, it

still comes from the soviet special services, when the fight against the enemy, the primary task was to convince the adversary that he has already experienced a defeat, that is, he has experienced a psychological defeat even before the defeat as such, but they are now all... forces are thrown at this, at that, it is now very visible, this is an aggravation, so that ukrainian society will survive and believe that he , was defeated, well , this is an absolute absurdity, well, from our point of view , this is a complete absurdity, but look how it works cunningly, that we first warm up the expectations of the ukrainian society, we say that we are winning, we say that while the phone rings about... victory is coming, then we understand, yes, what reality is very complex, and here, the russians pick up on all this, and and... and ride on

these waves, absolutely, they pick up on this wave, they hybridize it a little, that is, they sharpen reality somewhere, that's what hyperrealism is, there is realism, but there is hyperrealism, you can make my portrait like this, yes, or you can give a close-up, so that you can see all the scars on the skin, conditionally speaking, so that, that is, the effect of disgust can be achieved, they are essentially looking for this effect of disgust in reality, they it is important to present all our problems as sharpen, make they are almost under a microscope and put them together in a big grandiose puzzle, that everything is lost, that this is a total apocalypse and that we have lost, well, it is absolutely, how to explain it, this is a mental seesaw now, now we have gone to the top of the mental seesaw of society in this negative pole, that's how we'll call it in the minus, and it seems to us that the picture is like this, but i

'll say it once again that in the dew the strategy was exactly and that always represented even oneself in the world can be a complete apocalypse in them in in the rear, everything can be very terrible in them, but they make a demonstration of this steadfastness , this is what napoleon once said about power, the whole trick is that the essence of power is not whether the power is strong or weak, but the whole trick is in what she seems to be. for someone there, the whole apocalypse may already be complete, that is, ruins, but it shows itself as strong and unshakable, but russia is doing it now, it is a king with a bare back, who shows itself in this way, and this is the picture they also offer us, they suggest that our statehood, our deep institutional capacity, whether it is economic or whatever, that says it all.

well, this is actually not true, but the point is that, agree, agree, that the ukrainian authorities also embellished reality, and actually this led to such an emotional, as if emotional failure, such an emotional setback, exactly what was broadcast through a telethon, through the statements of government speakers, and so on, that is, it is also the same, we must admit it. in this case, i will remember by the way, i am not going to defend anyone , i will mention, although i say that historical parallels, they are useless, but i will mention the fact that the american revolution, the battle for independence, the army, that is, general washington and congress, these are two competing political organizations, al the army, everything is very difficult, everything is very apocalyptic, there are no weapons, they

understand about... problems, well, up to the cells, so that everything is very tight, and the congress, which is much calmer, maybe even a little more cynical, as the power is political, we also have these swings the same in reality, and the government is the same, well, it also, on the other hand, probably cannot fully tell what the state of affairs is, because then people... will not believe, you understand, people will not believe in the future better, that's why here i don't know how to be here, here society must be given hope and be careful to give it the truth, even if the situation is critical, it 's like this, you know, a shaky thing, here i don't envy anyone, to be honest, in general, you said, that actually right now and such an emotional bottom , many people have a feeling of despair, and i do too it seems that actually these shellings, which

russia is conducting now... these days, they are not only to destroy the infrastructure of our country, yes, but also, well, to actually undermine the strength of the spirit, yes ours, to undermine our faith, to me it seems that this is also for this, but it seems to me that the russians do not understand the ukrainians well enough, that ours, on the contrary , unites and unites, they will not achieve anything, and they did not achieve, despite the terrible footage that we saw of the consequences of this shelling, strategically they did not achieve anything at all, they even more. added malice, embitterment, a unites such a ukrainian society, i think, of course, because everyone is united, all these art attacks, everyone echoes, everyone calls back, everyone asks questions, i see how social networks are buzzing there, lviv residents, how are you and we holding on, dnipro, the way we hold on, it will give them absolutely nothing , it will give them nothing, they, their strategy is so childish,

yes, they are people... in the east, they are people of tyranny, mental aggression, and they believe that if they will demonstrate ot...