but if you say that we can, oddly enough, i remember physiognomies from our political school and think that there is still a chance to compete there, i am asking you, i can tell you, i can tell you so many physiognomies, i just don't want to waste time on it , not only along the entire perimeter of our hungarian border, that’s right, but i ’m up to what you know, how strange it is, but even... russia’s blocking the export of grain from ukraine suddenly showed the whole world how globally important the country turned out to be , i.e. turns out we always thought that we are somewhere in uzbek, that we are somewhat integrated into something there, here it turns out that if there are no normal supplies of grain from ukraine, then it turns out that the whole world suddenly suffers. i think if you look at how many different ones we have. minerals, how much do we have a sufficiently

literate population, as it turned out, who come abroad and are not a burden for other countries, because in poland our people paid more taxes than they took money from there, because they come, know and understand her even on the level of european sensations space, which indicates that we are, as they say, an ancient baroque european nation, even in the podkorka, and even those people who at one time accepted the russians. but here now there is again the same question about the hungarians in vain, so they listened very carefully here , mr. rudenko very correctly says this is the story of the hashik, let's remember what švejk said, this is a story that has been going on for quite a long time in europe , the problem of certain specifics of the conduct

of neighborhood policy by the hungarians so that in my opinion, they didn't kill the pots, i don't even know, only with the penguins of antarctica, until all the rest of them have territorial and other claims, and we will not remove this and this syndrome, because hungarians love fidesz and their orbán in their party, they are giving it to him, we will have to look for it, i don’t know what argument, models, models cooperation must be sought, there is one simple model of cooperation, it is called you want to do something there with your ukraine, give me 30 billion. okay, tonight i agree to 10 billion. this is blackmail, we don't have that kind of money, we won't buy orban. that's why i think we don't have a clue yet, i can tell you that orban's problem is not only a problem of ukraine, it is a problem of the european union. this is, first of all, a crash test that the european union has not passed, that is , the european union is forced to flirt with orbán, instead of putting him in a clear framework. because they don't have a mechanism

, they have a mechanism, but they don't use it, no , they only make a mechanism, they send it for coffee in order to then vote for ukraine to start negotiations, it will work out somewhere , and we will decide here by consensus, because you are everything one thing here at the meeting, well, if it is one orban, yes, if there was not one, he is like that, they have not yet manifested the same fizo and others, i think that our friends, you touched on a very correct topic. look , that is, the story about orbán is not really about orbán and not even about orbán's european union, the story is about, it's a story about putin and putin's policy of splitting the european union in very different directions, and that's why orbán will play this putin game, well , saying, well, putin can be forever, first of all, well, it can't be him, let's not exaggerate, well, like lenin, he can lie in the grave and only in his name.

he wrote about the collective putin on tv, which exists, long before the invasion, so in this case i am not talking about the miracles of medicine that can keep this dictator, by that time two or three elections will already be held in europe. lenin, and next to it stands a refrigerator, like the dnieper, with putin written on it. that is, with a hint

that he is in the refrigerator, well, as professor nightingale said, and that he is no longer a runner, and he's just like that, he was allocated a place , a refrigerator, it's near the mausoleum, listen, and turn it over if... that it was one defake talking to another defake, but it could also be i'm saying that now if, artificial intelligence, and that was artificial intelligence, and judging by what putin said, it is nothing new in principle, well, that putin, who was shown next to us, is aggressive, who no longer sees any other policy, that is, the policy of permanent war , or military conflict, or never signed peace agreement, we have as an example. north-south korea. there is only there is no there is no hot confrontation and no peace agreement either. i can say anything at any time. but it can be extinguished. but speaking, for example, about russia and putin's stories , the year 23 is a story about prigozhin. in russian

terms, this was the year of prigozhin, that is, who almost managed to do the impossible, right? that is, at least to posit and drag the whole story. well, if you remember prigozhin's early morning as everyone started exchanging their hopes in messengers, that is, it quickly entered the agenda, but there are pluses and minuses for us, plus the fact that we no longer believed that the russian rebellion, senseless and merciless, could still exist in the cemented czech state, it turns out that it can, and this is a plus, and the minus is that when prigozhin calmly entered. on one nuclear object, and no one contradicted him, it so frightened those useful musks, who all the time, ay-yay-yay, lie down under russia, write a peace treaty, otherwise they will get to the nuclear button, some other beautiful, you know, i think that the fact that prigozhin went there,

it seems that prigozhin himself was afraid of it, because in fact, in fact, it was also indicative, you know, there are really pros and cons, plus in what we will see. believe me, nothing absolutely, but there is another thing , as a result of the fact that this coup did not happen, it must be said that, at least today, in today's situation, putin's personal power has in principle strengthened, because now his

word is the only and last one, if after the unsuccessful, let's say, offensive on ukraine in the 22nd year, he was forced to somehow... chew his own with some groups of influence for a whole year, there was something there, it was all a beauty from this it grew out of the fact that inside this kremlin, well, let's say there were some constant discussions, debates and mutual competition, so the result of this rebellion is that there are no discussions, putin is alone, his word is the only one, and it is the last , well, he simply showed that he will wet everyone, as he soaked them beautifully. so and none, no agreements work, nothing works, because he does not negotiate with anyone else, but this is their story, this is their story, but we have to understand that now there is only putin, there are no more groups, and you don't need to rely on anyone there, oh, i went for a walk,

there's not enough ordinary water here, drink reo, i 'm saving myself, reo. you're ready, honey, ready, took reo. reo - water for special medical purposes. turn on well, it's when everything is as you want. click, and you are in the world of cartoons, click and around the universe of cinema. and further. oh, what is needed. mego. turn on hundreds of channels, thousands of movies and sports. ladies, gentlemen, and gentlemen, let's talk about what happened during the year at the front, olya, you followed quite carefully the situation at the front and commented in

the war chronicles program and in the war information chronicles, what do you think was the most important thing this year, because it is clear that there were. hopes for a counteroffensive, everyone expected a counteroffensive in the spring, then information appeared that this counteroffensive was not going as well as it would have liked, then the foreign press wrote about it, then they started. already in ukraine talking about the fact that the counteroffensive somehow went wrong, and the peak of all this was the absentee confrontation of the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zelenskyi and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhnyi, or rather, teams or, let's say, people related to zelenskyi, who tried to torpedo zaluzhnyi precisely because of the situation with the counteroffensive. how do you assess what happened at the front in the 23rd year and what is it? speaks about the future of the front, about what, what can we expect in

the 24th? the 23rd year showed exactly one thing, which was actually understood even in the summer of the 22nd year, if everything that we got in the 23rd year, we got in the summer of the 22nd year, we would already today, simply, well, russian a soldier it was not on the territory of ukraine , but time matters, that’s what the 23rd year showed, time matters, if you give something late, then you give it when it can no longer play, eh, you give the enemy a chance to dig in, you give but we defeated the invasion army in the 22nd year, and as a result, due to all these delays, due to the fact that we had nothing to fight, we allowed putin to assemble practically another army, which we can no longer defeat so quickly with the same the resources themselves, he showed it. 23rd year else he showed and that's also really important, that some kind of conditional war for a long time, a war

, something like that, it cannot go on in the paradigm that ukraine is being bombed, while russia has intact supply channels, it has an intact economy, it works for itself and nothing, in principle, they have no problems, that's what the whole problem is for us, so if we want to fight... for a long time, and if someone tells us how we have to fight a long time, then this war means that we have to fight in such a way that the russians carry exactly the same weight war, as we carry it, to the same extent, carrying the war on the territory, of course, the war must be moved to the territory of russia, absolutely, it must go there, not to our territories, moreover, i will tell you that... that, roughly speaking, for the victory of our war, in general, one big blackout in

russia will be more important, let's say , for russia's desire to settle down than 25 offensives under bakhmut, under there in the south or cutting off someone from somewhere, that's one thing, and the second is another, after all, you have to set the goals of the war correctly, not just there, push the russians back to their borders, not just go on a rampage. no position, you see, we have to fight in such a way that the russians, well, simply, you know, so that it would be a night terror for them to even remember that they once attacked us, so that they, you know, tell their grandchildren how terrible it is to fight with ukrainians, and how to make oil so that it can be implemented, look, that is, you know that there is a war plan from olga len, but the resources. from olga len should be for this, that is, in particular for striking in the depth of the strategic deployment

of russian troops throughout the territory of russia, we we have to have technologies, long-range missile systems to buy, buy, buy, but they don’t sell them, it’s not vointorh, it’s not vointorh, it ’s production, for that, for that we have diplomacy, for that we have to conduct information flying, well, it’s on the foot of the decision in the white house, olya, well , it rests on... for us, next year, unfortunately, will not be

such that we will directly advance, advance, nor such that we will have the opportunity to somehow break it there , all we have to do in the 24th year is essentially, i say once again, establish, well, such, no, well, opportunities for the supply of weapons, so that we are not dependent on political ones. this is very important , if for this you have to go in some very non-trivial ways, then for this you have to go in non-trivial ways, look, we have the 23rd year, from this point of view, a year of lost... opportunities: first, nowhere in the world of politics instead of warlords are engaged in the promotion, announcement and pr of the counteroffensive. six months of concert activity, so we will start a counteroffensive, means that moscow the occupier makes three or even four lines of defense, filling them with concrete. never in

a country with a responsible military-political leadership. they do not start digging the second line of defense and trenches by order of the supreme commander-in-chief only in the second year after the full-scale invasion, and then in certain areas of the khupyanskyi or donetsk directions, nowhere in the world do they raise champagne, they say, what a great israelis, for one, for for one day, the government of national unity was formed and everyone went to the defense as one, we have this year too a lost opportunity, having what we have , as one kravchuk said at one time, we never launched the war economy, and the moscow occupier launched it in three shifts, if we need very high-quality and technological things, we have partners, we could do it would produce on the territory of poland right under the border,

on the territory of nato, and calmly relicating a very important production there, already as of the 23rd year to have at least... a sufficient share of these weapons, when we do not have to depend on whether the trumpists will defeat the rest of the republicans, or won't they defeat the other side ocean, so this 23rd year is very difficult from the point of view of lost opportunities, on the horizon of this 24th year it is not yet visible that these are all illusions, that it is possible to fight with someone else's weapons, that it is possible. to completely rely on someone, no matter how close your allies are, you should think about whether you are autonomous at least in some of your greatest needs, no one is autonomous, there is no country that does not need some military technologies, russia constantly needs them , although they shout how they are provided, this is not true, but the question

is that there are countries and there were countries in a much worse condition than we are, which had embargoes at all. for the supply of weapons, and they were building both arms supply networks and arms production networks anyway, it’s just that we need to finally start not just thinking about it, doing it, understanding that a certain autonomy is important, there just wasn’t such a scale of the war that exists now, it’s firstly, secondly, it is not clear, but we are tied to our partners and it is not clear what the partners put into the concept of the defeat of russia, because for us the defeat of russia is our goal. that is, to them was not on our territory, and it will be their defeat, but what is it, what is the concept of biden or in the understanding, you very correctly used the word partners, partners, not allies to broadcast our vision of our victory, our vision of victory, i think it is enough it is simple

for the russians to sit quietly in the borders that we will draw for them with someone, i don't know. responsibilities, these are allied relations with a country that has undergone full-scale aggression, these are allied relations that provide for the possible introduction of contingents, taking responsibility for the infliction. blows on russian territory, at the moment we do not see any too much aggressiveness on the part of ours, but in a year we have advanced far enough in this direction, remember the beginning of the 23rd year, when we were afraid to even squeak that, my god, something would fly to the side roseyushka, now something is flying in the direction of roseyushka and

it flies, and who pays attention to it, well, not here, well, something flies, it doesn't fly, you understand? saddam hussein and his large army flew 1,500 attacks before that, all of them, not counting tamagavkas and everything else, and then flew aviation, and only after that the war began, we do not exist on such a scale, even in the perspective of the coming years, which will be given to us. such a number of volleys that in moscow, in the center , a decision was made, at least somehow felt, you know, most likely, and such, it will not

look like this, well, no war is the same as the previous one, and now we have a completely different plan of war , therefore, most likely, the way we will act will also be sufficiently hybrid methods, and it is necessary to think in this direction, and not to think that we somehow we will sit in the defense, or maybe there somehow in... at the same time, russia will not destroy everything in our country, because they will supply us with several air defense systems, well , you know, it doesn't work like that, colleagues, let's leave all these issues to the military, so that we are all civilians at this table, we can express our opinion, but we have a supreme commander, there is a commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, yes, roman, i wanted to ask you about, you already mentioned the communication between the government and society, that she was unsuccessful in 2020. the third year is not enough to put it mildly, because they talked about a counteroffensive, a counteroffensive did not happen , more was said than, than what

we got as a result, we see certain problems in communication between the civilian leadership and the intermilitary leadership, and it is denied at the highest level that there is no such thing, but those journalists are western, who also wrote in respectable magazines. russian and british, they basically talk about it, and we see that the confrontation is ongoing, an informational confrontation, and quite a serious one, that you can you say about this communication, which is now, well, let's put it this way, it is not as strong, during the war, as it could have been between the state leadership and society, well , nothing has changed in our philosophy of communication, it continues.. . remains at the level of an e-mailer who serves e-e video reports of the kvn team in various streams and resources, that is , the e-mailer looks at how many likes we

got, how many dislikes, how many reposts , all communication is based on this logic, we survived for 23 several years information special operations against the ukrainian population based on the principle: let's see if they are ready to surrender... not ready, they are ready to play elections during wartime, they are not ready, there are more dislikes than likes, that is, this is the same peacetime game that we seen, which in principle those who are engaged in communications, spied in another series of black mirror, this is the netflix series, where there is a bear, who is voiced by an actor behind the scenes, and he begins to influence this bear, then on the real flights about the first series of black mirrors i'm not about, i'm not about the prime minister's pig yet, i'm still more about communication, and this horror continued, the result is failed

budgets, figures and influences, for example, the so- called the only information of the infomarathon , i am not talking about the fact that foreign language, which is very important for us to communicate with the whole world, has turned into the mastering of millions of russian-speaking houses, freedom and... other houses, madhouses, this is simply a terrible communication that no one in europe does not look, and does not cause, on the contrary, irritation than communication as such. next, we further see that the bubble surrounds the office, and this is an institution in our country that is not written in the constitution, but is the main one, because we live in an office-presidential republic, in the office i do not know how many circles of disinformation to the supreme commander, this we can judge after the so-called meeting of the verkhovna rada took place, they finally communicated the issue, for example, of the second line of defense there, maybe engineering tanks and excavators will come and start digging something, that is

, we understand that we are now hostage to such the whole country is becoming a source of communication, and unfortunately, the armed forces of ukraine are also hostages of communication in the rear, for us it is catastrophic due to the fact that we now have in parallel not... one single, as if gathered into a fist, nation that lives according to the principle, you or in the armed forces, or for the armed forces , we have exhausted human and monetary resources, this is a small number of people, and a huge number of people who live optional, with such communication, she lives optional, mastering the war in the form of there 5 minutes of flipping a telegram in the evening, and at the same time, there is hope that it can be tolerated, what is it? i'll look there and everything, and it's terrible, because... in this case, we didn't get the phenomenon when every defender of israel rushed, regardless of whether he was in australia on vacation, or he went somewhere to study

himself there on... or a continent, everyone rushed to defend the country, we have a different one, entropy, and for the 23rd year you are a constant, this failed communication, when double standards are highlighted everywhere, well, here, for example, here in our country, remember, panchenko received received a criminal case as a traitor to the motherland from the sbu, and max nazarov with others spherical points, what double standards , yes, that is, we see these double standards all the time, for some reason to blame... some are grabbed and criticized, and maybe even a criminal case is opened, for example, shevchenko's wife, i'm not talking about maryana vizulova , there are no questions at all, this is also communication, this is the communication of representatives of the authorities in a warring country, and this representative of the authorities is attacking the commander-in-chief of the armed forces at this moment, when we have switched to

active action on the entire front. defense, and not to the counterattack, and on neither the president's office nor the supreme commander reacts, no one reacts, so maybe they react, but they just don't merge, we don't have much time left, let's talk briefly about communication, about what kind of communication was between the government and society , and let's move on to predictions for the 24th year, because literally 5 minutes remain until the end of the program, a key communication story. this communication needs to be rebuilt, that is, the age of the information marathon, you know, in pink tones, when they tell how we are the day after tomorrow, so let's say, let's drop a star from the kremlin from the spad tower and so on and so on, well, that 's it, that's the end of history, that is, it was a certain period, you know how the phenomenon of aristovych, the great prophet in quotation marks, ended, yes, that's how this information should end history, the government's attitude to society, to real needs

, must be rethought, sociology must be rethought , geopolitical challenges must be rethought, because it is the 24th year, this year will be, in particular, about money, not only about sacrifice, but about summarizing certain financial indicators , so we understand that as if we did not want to be beautiful and completely independent, we are not in that situation, we need as many resources as possible, material, i don't know, financial, human, technological and so on, this is one moment, the year 24 means that we enter... a long war , which acquires existential significance not only for us, but also for the russian federation and for the kremlin, that is, this is a war that will be called a war in russia, that is, they have found an enemy where they can channel all their hatred, all their destruction and then try to sell it to your impoverished to the population, as some kind of global victory, it will not be for them in any case.

mine, but there is such an intention, and i see how the russian discourse becomes more and more fanciful, that is, the transformation of an aggressive but limited war against ukraine into an existential war, a long, protracted, bloody war that, in general, shapes the meaning of russia's existence, it will about the 24th year, there are great positives, so that the european union is being rebuilt, rather slowly, but faster than we would like, and we have... the shadow of trump, which has already fallen on the american politics, and this shadow of trump, it will all just begin, that is, in ascending order, month by month until the election, and then the fall of the 24th year, or late autumn, early winter, then we get a certain big summary, i'm afraid of on the one hand, well, on the other hand, i hope for the best, because old biden, well, he

survived more than one brezhnev. olya, well, you can't change communication if you don't change real politics, because communication is actually a derivative of your political goals, from what you do politically, and you know, well, i guess i agree here, yes, this is a rethinking, but not only communication, this rethinking should be of politics in general, because also rethinking what you really attract in order to... well win in general, really win, not just to sit out, not just to wait, but to win, you can't broadcast it through state resources, for example, as i recently heard that people over 45 should fight, because they brought this situation.