tv [untitled] January 1, 2024 6:30pm-7:01pm EET
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let the international politics mark this year as an asset in ukraine or as a liability yuriy, please, well, you know vasyl, you know colleagues, the 23rd was a difficult year and it was difficult for each of us in those areas, in those areas that we are talking about, it was complex 24th, what will be the 24th possible? even more difficult, maybe easier, i don't know, but the 24th was remembered, at least in the area in which i work, after all, as a decision, well, such historical ones, i would call a decision and decisions, and what i stand for i want to emphasize these solutions were adopted not thanks to our authorities, but rather contrary to what our authorities were doing, in the story we saw that these two landmark decisions were made at the nato summit and at the european union summit, and the nato summit was held.
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in july, the summit of the european union was just a few weeks ago in december, so we were not invited to nato, but we were clearly told that we would become a member of nato, and now we need to go for it, we need to do it ourselves were accepted into nato, so we were not invited to the european union and they say that we are still a long way from the european union, 2030 is just a benchmark to which we should strive, but at least at this summit we heard that... they want us there, and again, one condition, we have to prove that we want to go there ourselves, we have to be ready, we have to make the changes that are expected of us, and we have to become a truly european country that wants to join this european family and a nato country that wants to join, so there is a lot of work ahead, but it is historical, it is real historical decisions, and i think, i will repeat myself again, these... these decisions, probably,
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were made contrary to what our politicians were doing. yes, well, colleagues, who has a question? yuriy, you said that historical decisions were made contrary to, rather, the actions of our authorities, but how would you evaluate and why would you criticize the efforts of the ukrainian authorities on this diplomatic international platform, if we are talking not only about president volodymyr zelenskyi, who, to whom the constitution provides... to implement international politics, in particular foreign policy , if we talk about the ministry of foreign affairs, if we talk about the office of the president, in particular, which takes over these functions in some places, perhaps too much, yes, on the international stage, and also about ambassadors in certain countries, we know that great britain in particular has a problem with this, the czech republic, great britain we still do not have ambassadors, evgeny, answering your question, you said very well, there was no effort, there were some efforts. well, these efforts were crowned
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with some success, and again against the odds because of what this government did, why the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine was not very often present at major international platforms, but the head of the president's office was, why we do not have ambassadors in countries that are very important for ukraine and help us, great britain, the czech republic, why such questions, why, why, why, why, as you correctly said, the office of the president of ukraine. takes on responsibilities that he should not at all, not that he should not take care of, perform, and all this leads to the fact that in europe there are some such skeptics, sometimes there were skeptical opinions, skeptical positions in relation to ukraine, in relation to our european future, and this is manifested in the position of, for example, viktor orban, who uses all this very well, then informs his citizens and shows that ukraine cannot be taken into europe. union, for example,
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those leaders who said that ukraine is not ready to join nato, yes, we are not ready, but it is only about the fact that we, even in nato, were not given a formal invitation, but we were told : here is a signpost for you, to which you will go, and you have to get there , were maximum diplomatic efforts made before this, there were no, there were some efforts, fortunately, thank god, thank god, we have this historic result, and i will call it historic. serhii has a question, please, yes yuri, i would like to ask what is happening in the united states now in terms of the reality of receiving funding for the needs of ukraine in terms of defense, because those relations between the democrats and the republicans, they are becoming such an internal american war , and whether they feel that it is of essential principle to our nature of warfare , in view of the fact that we greatly expect this assistance. the key word in your question is what is really happening, no one knows what in... is really happening in the american
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political world, because the american political world is closed to the american, to the united states of america, and even the americans themselves probably do not fully understand this, but i will try to answer your question. regarding aid to ukraine, you really said that. that for americans, ukraine is very far away, and allocating large sums of money to ukraine in order for it to defeat another of its rivals, russia, which is just as far from the united states of america, is something like , you know, it's kind of utopian, for many americans, i want to say , but not for everyone , thank god that there are conscious people in the united states of america and among the american political elite, who understand that the victory of ukraine is the victory of the whole... world, and therefore it is important to help ukraine, whether they will give us , will they give us money for to support us in order to buy weapons with which we can speed up this victory, my personal opinion is that if they give it, they will drag it out using their
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some kind of internal political strife, the internal american political strife, the two american parties, the democratic and the republican, between are quarreling with themselves now... for example, about the southern border with mexico and about migration legislation, they just want to earn some dividends on this issue, but both of them understand that the money that will be allocated to ukraine is 61 billion dollars, the lion's share of it will go to stay in the united states of america, the lion's share of this money will settle in american military enterprises, the lion's share of this money will go to the salaries of american people. who work there, and yes, they are dragging, they did not approve aid to ukraine until the new year, i really hope, but no, i will say it differently, i am sure that after the new year they will still unblock this aid, because they understand where it's evil, and it's evil in russia, i'm just making a remark, and now i'll ask you, huh
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i am very brief that in fact the distance across the bering strait between the usa and russia is 13 km, so on the one hand it is far, if across the atlantic. and if the east is not so far away, well, it's just a word, i remember this phrase, what the americans do, they go through many options, then they do as they should, i hope that this time it will be the same, please sasha, er, yuro, questions about european integration, well, especially for business, for small and medium-sized enterprises, and also for many consumers, a difficult situation turned out to be with the blocking of the polish border, romanian to hungarian, that is, in the european union , well, lethargic. the ukrainian economic side responded to the problems, the dialogue was indeed taking place, but our state continued to lose enormous funds due to the blocking of the border, while at the same time receiving these funds from european partners, business is questioning european integration,
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perhaps speaking, talking with investors , with entrepreneurs, that it is necessary to step towards the eu, but not to forget precisely the position of ukraine, ukrainian business, it is necessary to defend some of our rights. but not to cancel the european one visa-free transport, to which ukraine has been going for a long time, i have a question for you , you know, there is another question here, the question is that if we talk about the issues you have now raised, europeans think about themselves, we still not in the european union, we have not yet arrived, but economically we are integrating, we are integrating there, but we are first of all the european union thinks about the european union and therefore in europe more... they are on the side of poland in this matter, pleases only that the government has changed in poland and that this new government, of prime minister donald tusk, will now make every effort to change this situation. donald tusk, by the way, why did this happen because there was poor communication between the polish government and brussels.
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the polish government constantly blamed the central government in brussels, there was no understanding between them. as a result of the situation you are talking about, now donald tusk has come to power, and i really hope that. that now , for the first time, this communication between poland and brussels will change, and if it changes, then will change and it has become, it seems to me, here it is necessary to comply with certain european legislation, into which we have already integrated, i am talking about the transport visa-free, you cannot return the old soviet legislation there , these permits, because it will undermine the essence of this economic basis, to which we are going together with the eu, that's right, ms. natali , please, you mentioned the change of government in poland, and in general, such a political change and... and it's no secret, many people said that this situation with the blockade at the border, that it is not economic tsarina, but political, well, what do you think, will something change in this regard in connection with the arrival, well, of a new political force, because it's no secret that even in poland there are very
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divided opinions and sympathies, so to speak and such an aggravation is certainly happening, how will it affect ukraine? natalka, i'm sure. what will change, do you know why, where, one of the first countries where the new polish foreign minister, radosław sikorski, arrived, ukraine, god forbid, so i think that it will all happen now. changes, we are here we will find points of contact, and we will find ways out of this situation, which we got into sometimes because of this, because of ourselves, because of our own mistakes, and sometimes because of some wrong position on the part of our neighbors, i think that we will solve these mistakes, but the new government has already come to fulfill its duties, and the situation has not changed radically so far, well , i won't, i don't know how this, how they can change this situation at all in a purely practical way, i don't know, that's why it can't ... to answer this question, but i really hope that it will change, well, me only that, i will only say briefly, i will point out that
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in ukraine now a lot of things are changing in a short time in relations with the west, which have not happened for decades, so it is probably a very painful disease of growth, well, but i believe that again we will manage to survive it, and now we will not talk about the disease of growth, but about the fight against a sick state, which is the russian federation, about the situation at the front, how it changed during the year and the key moments that may have influenced or positively? or negatively on the course of events that we expected for the year past and what we have at the front, most importantly, at the beginning of the 24th, let's see, on the battlefield, the year 2023 has become a year of hopes, successes and losses for ukraine. in january , they talked about the fact that ukraine should not lose in the war with russia, the usa and its partners supported it. in the creation of an offensive group of 12 brigades for 60,000 soldiers, which
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was supposed to be the basis for a breakthrough in the enemy's defenses in the south of the country, but the preparations were slow, as were the weapons, and after the defeats in 2022, russia began to build fortifications and mine captured territories along the entire contact line, especially densely in the south. also, since january, the russian army has switched from defense. before the offensive on the line from kupyansk to ughledar, this was the second battle for the east, where the enemy sought to push ukrainian troops out of donbas. this enemy plan collapsed with the epic destruction of the russian forces under ugledar in february, but the enemy concentrated on capturing bakhmut, where they first used wagnerian and meat assault tactics. this rush lasted until may. the enemy paid a colossal price for the ruins of bakhmut the price political and military... this leadership of ukraine considered the exhausting defense of bakhmut expedient, despite the advice from the us to concentrate
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all forces and opportunities on conducting a concentrated offensive in the south. according to the plan , the two breakthrough corps were supposed to break through enemy-occupied territories in the donetsk and zaporizhzhia regions and reach the azov coast, or at least tokmak. since may, the armed forces of ukraine have shaken the enemy's defenses in several directions from the main one. novosilky to vasylivka. an active offensive in the south began june 4. however, the maneuver doctrine, which our partners too optimistically relied on when simulating offensive actions in the south, did not work in the conditions of extensive enemy fortifications, extensive minefields, active operation of anti-tank weapons, drones and helicopters. at the same time, the offensive took place without dominance in the air and without an advantage in manpower, and the concentration of forces for a breakthrough was simply impossible. due to the transparency of the battlefield, thanks to reconnaissance drones and the rapid use of enemy means of destruction, hence
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the newly formed brigades were gaining experience in combat operations in conditions where no nato army would launch such an offensive at all, there were losses. in view of the harsh reality, the leadership of the armed forces decided to switch to the tactics of advancing in small groups, with demining and artillery support. instead of expecting a quick promotion. by almost 100 km, from summer to autumn, the advance in the south in the robotyny area was up to 12 km. there will be no deep breakthrough - valery zaluzhnyi wrote in a well-known article in the economist. the war has become a war of attrition because defense prevails over the offensive. as in the first world war, ukraine and russia have reached a level of technological development that puts us in a hopeless situation. to get out of this impasse, we need to invent something. fundamentally new, as the chinese once invented gunpowder, - noted zaluzhnyi.
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on land, the results of the offensive campaign of the armed forces and defense forces, despite the self-sacrifice, dedication and courage of our soldiers, in 2023 turned out to be less than expected, but the enemy suffered significant losses. according to us intelligence, of the 360,000 invaders who invaded ukraine, russia lost on the battlefield. 315,000 people, the russian federation also lost 2/3 of tanks and a third of the number of other armored vehicles. now russia is trying to recover what it lost and since october it has attacked... diivka has again intensified combat operations along the entire front line using its main advantage - manpower. the tactics of the wagnerites became the tactics of the russian army. so now the enemy is making a third attempt to replay the results of the fighting for donbas. these attempts of the enemy are broken by the stability of our defenses, but again and again, by us
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weapons, equipment and ammunition are needed. well, that's how serhii briefly explained how this year passed, well, mainly at the front. serhii, i would like to ask you this, can we say that the actual status quo has actually been preserved, or were advances in one direction and the other still significant? well, first of all, i wanted to hit, from what we talked about diplomacy, about the transformation of zelensky, but we understand that all these things are related to how courageously our defense is holding up on the front line, because now that we are there we record the holiday. program some young men and women have been basically sitting in the trenches for two years, and are now bearing the brunt of what is now affecting our present and our future, so we must remember the difficult conditions in which we now we actually exist and what will happen to our state, so in any case the question of the situation on the front line is decisive, which will affect everything, on
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the economy, on diplomacy, on our feelings and so on. now, when we talk about what happened on the front lines,... this year indeed we had great expectations regarding the counter-offensive, the expectation of the counter-offensive, they were really heated, because everyone knew where we were going to attack, what we had to gain, that we had to go to the coast of the sea of azov, how we would cut this transport corridor, and everything seems to be fine, especially against the background of the statements of our officials that we can even drink coffee in the summer in the crimea, of course this affected expectations, perhaps such informational support was needed at the first stage, when our population was. let's say so, well, jumped russian attack, but when the reality was understood, we still think that this is an excessive hope, they played a certain cruel joke with our population, and now we are returning a little to our real land, indeed, the enemy has become much stronger this year, so that the front line has shrunk, it has become conventionally speaking, it is not 200 km there, it is 800
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km there, the number of enemy forces on our territory has almost doubled, that is , in fact they have dug themselves into the ground, they have provided themselves with equipment and weapons, and in fact they are now and in the offensive in defense, using its advantages, primarily in the number of personnel. it is much more difficult for us to fight them now , and we understand that now we have serious challenges, if we were expecting to reach the coast of the sea of azov, we have not succeeded so far, and this means that now we have such a significant year of expectations of changes and transformations. it will come to the point that we have to reformat the defense, provide the fortifications that were finally mentioned, we have to form reserves, we have to teach our soldiers not only to fight, we have to finally train the commanders, because one of our problems is that our brigades and commanders are not always ready to carry out large-scale actions, because this is a new experience, we have not yet learned to attack, we have learned
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to defend well, but we have to learn to attack we are just starting, so relatively speaking, we have such serious challenges that no army in the world has ever faced, this applies to the preparation of an offensive operation, and security and so on, that is, the next year will be extremely difficult, important, and in in any case, we really hope for foreign aid, which is why i asked yuri about this issue, because now it is impossible to plan our actions for the next year without clearly knowing what means and forces you will have at your disposal during the next year, and this is the challenge which is now in front of our military...leaders when the americans ask what is your strategy for victory, the strategy for fighting, and what is the strategy for the americans on how we're going to be secured, are we going to have enough planes there, are we going to have enough number ammunition, whether there will be enough charters and everything else, this is just what will provide us with some understanding of how we will fight next year, but in any case we understand that both the population and all of us and
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you and our military are determined indeed, to ensure victory in whatever difficult conditions it may happen, this is how we think: that the next year will be difficult, but it will be another step towards our victory. evgeny, please, do you have any questions? at the end of the year, you already told serhiy about it, there were concerns about further prospects for the supply of western weapons to ukraine, at least in the volumes that were earlier, which were at the beginning of, say , this year, 2023. but if we talk about ukraine, did ukraine manage to increase its own production capacity this year. it is clear that we need certain western-style weapons, certain weapons and equipment that we cannot currently produce, but is there anything to praise the ukrainian state in this sense , and ukrainians? the defense-industrial complex, well, in fact, weapons will be an important component, which will ensure, well, the situation on the front line, we do have significant supplies of american weapons, european weapons, but during this time there have really been
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some positive changes with our defense industry, although at internal meetings everyone talks about the fact that now our defense industry can provide the ukrainian army by a maximum of 8-10%, this suggests that in reality the potential of needs is much greater than what our defense industry can do, although before the war we had directions where we could develop the production of equipment, this there are armored vehicles, and radar, and guided missiles, and there were even projects related to the missile program, the ammunition program, these two programs, the creation of missile weapons and the creation of ammunition, they are now a priority, in fact, there are now people for this, partly there is money, and now these processes are taking place, it is hoped that next year we will have more of our own ammunition than we have had up to now. there are also changes with drones, because we see that this potential is related to the role of the ministry of digital affairs in the processes, it gave a positive impetus
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to start manufacturing, in particular, fivi drones, but here a strange question arises, why is the ministry of digital transformation engaged in this, and not the ministry of defense, now it is generally a paradoxical situation that the ministry of defense does not have money for the purchase of drones, but such money is in the ministry of digital transformation, now the ministry of digital will be a leader in these processes, in particular, the same if... with fortifications, that is, in fact , that the role of the ministry of defense should be strengthened from the point of view of what they have there be integrated efforts, but the ministry of defense communicates well enough with foreign partners, now we have projects related to the transfer and localization of the production of foreign weapons in ukraine, we know there are agreements with german companies, with british companies, with french companies on the creation of enterprises either in ukraine or in... in the countries bordering ukraine, in order to ensure the rapid repair of the equipment that is supplied to ukraine or was previously supplied, so that changes from the point of view there are weapons, but next year's needs
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will still be colossal and so far the main challenge against the background of all types of weapons is primarily ammunition, because we understand that we need at least 200,000 ammunition per month, not european companies, not american yet that this volume cannot be provided, so this is... so far a serious challenge for our actions next year. alexander, please. serhiy, but is it possible to increase this production potential at the expense of internal investments at the expense of the creation of ukrainian enterprises, ukrainian companies. whether there are investments, whether there are people, whether there is a business desire and whether there is permission from the government, we will talk. well, actually, what is the problem here, we are trying to transfer market mechanisms to the conditions of war. and in conditions of war, first of all, they are more effective. reactive ways of building enterprises, why there is not enough ammunition from the american europeans now, because they are trying to ensure the expansion of production through market mechanisms and therefore
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they usually do not have time to do it in ukraine as well so far these variations with the fact that we will create joint enterprises, that we will create share shares and so on, this is such a long-term process, if we understand that we are short of ammunition, that there is no gunpowder. and the pace of ammunition production depends on this , so i think that the directive decision in the conditions of war looks more rational, and i really hope that the challenges of war will still force our leadership to be faster and play less with market mechanisms . thank you, huh, well, thank you sergey, so we will believe that already on the 24th, the news from the front will be better, again, they will be better when many factors will work, when many who... did not do something, will do, who did, will do better, who did evil , will sit behind bars and not spoil, as they say, our way to victory and not work
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against the ukrainian army, the ukrainian people and the ukrainian state, then obviously the successes will be completely different, there is absolutely nothing to blame the ukrainian army for, but many who joins this war with for one reason or another , you can certainly blame it, we hope that the negative factors will be removed, and relatively speaking, no one will interfere with the army, and all those who helped and should have helped... will help, well , now, now i will introduce the plot of my colleague, who was not with me in the studio during this year, he was in different places in ukraine, but most importantly, we saw him when he was, either on the front line, or near the front line, or where it is hot, where to fly in, where the real war actually hums and rumbles, our military correspondent, war correspondent artem lagutenko, his material is obviously the most memorable. moments, the most painful, the most memorable moments of this year. the shootings of civilians, the destruction of critical infrastructure, the so-called
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carpet bombing of the frontline mine. and abduction of ukrainian children. the terrible war unleashed by the russians in ukraine is nothing but a real genocide. this is the window, well, here, everything is here, here i have a sorc, here i want to have a bowl of borscht with chips, just eat it. these scary shots were taken in december 2022, just now de-occupied kherson. the rashists congratulated the residents of the city on christmas with mortar fire, killing them in one moment.
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destroy ukrainian identity, from museums and monuments to educational institutions. schools and kindergartens were destroyed in every settlement near the front where our film crews visited during these two years. this is where the orihiv school used to be. humanitarian aid was distributed here to civilians. the russians dropped as many as four aerial bombs here. this toy was found on the ruins of the third school in the city of orihiv, a symbol of russkavamir. what is approaching ukraine, according to the ministry of education, the occupiers destroyed or damaged 15 ukrainian educational institutions, that is , they shot at this school several times, so at first there were two in this area, then in about six months, this hole, and that , which the rashists cannot destroy, they immediately mine. oleksandr, a professional sapper, who in the de-occupied part of the kherson region, showed us
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with... the true scale of mines in the ukrainian land. muscovites mined literally every square meter before retreating. it passed not like during the conduct of hostilities, to restrain a potential enemy there or to secure oneself there so that something does not enter there. when leaving here, they mined everything, starting from doghouses, ending with blowing up all the lines of power transmission towers and setting mines on almost the entire infrastructure. ukraine has already been recognized as the most replaceable. state of the world, their goal is to make this territory no longer inhabited. this was the plot of my colleague artem lagutenko, a war correspondent of the espresso tv channel. greetings artem. congratulations vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. thanks to which you actually saw the war on our airwaves, as they say, live, full-length. and dmytro didora, our correspondent is also with us. greetings, dmitry. congratulations to vasyl. which was in the de-occupied territories, which was in
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the place where... water flowed after the breakthrough of the kokhov hydroelectric power station, which also helped you feel and see something where most of us were not, but we were able to experience it and understand it to a greater extent. we will start with the story that we just saw in our story from you, artemy, i would like to i want to ask you about what, i want your impressions, your emotions, your understanding of the war, which you saw with your own eyes and felt. you know, vasyl, this is a very difficult question, because here... before the recording, i was asked to tell the most vivid impressions from the war, and i cannot say so, because the entire war, the entire front is simply a parallel universe, it is a completely different reality , and there life is perceived in a completely different way, and what we see at the front, here in front of me, our esteemed colleague, mr. serhiy , gave a comprehensive analysis of... the offensive,
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which was in the summer of the 23rd year, we had the opportunity to go along the tracks of this counteroffensive to see what was happening there. so there, in zaporizhzhia and in the south of the donetsk region, i realized that i had to delete the phrase "when we win" from my dictionary, and after the victory, because there i realized how catastrophic... a serious problem is at the front. such counter-offensives that we had in the 22nd year, when we managed to break the front in the kharkiv region and advance 100 km to kupyansk in a couple of days, are no longer like this. it will be, because the enemy learns very well, unfortunately, including us. and...
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