no one contradicted, it scared those useful elon musks so much, who all the time, yay-yay-yay, lay down under russia, write a peace treaty, otherwise they will get to the nuclear button, some other beauties, you know , i think that that prigozhin went there, it seems that frigozhin himself was afraid of this, because in fact, in fact, it was also revealing , here you know, there really are pros and cons, the plus is that we saw that in reality the power in russia... will be replaced by a palace coup itself, and everyone else will just sit and wait until it ends, that is, not there will be no such thing, as everyone imagines, everyone ran out into the street and some republics started to destroy everything there, nothing will happen, there will simply be some kind of visible or invisible riot, someone will change someone, or well or not , the neighboring supermarkets will not, there will be none of this, believe me, absolutely nothing, but there is another thing. as a result of the fact that this

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93 separate mechanized brigade cold yar is in dire need of crows. to effectively hit the enemy and increase. loss of life and the inanimate force of the occupier, for the approach of victory, for which the whole of ukraine is waiting. glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into malorod. ukraine will become russia, we are countering the information attacks of the russians in the chronicles of information war project with olga lake. monday, tuesday, thursday at 17:15 on the espresso tv channel.

ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about what happened during the year on at the front, olya, you monitored the situation at the front quite carefully and commented in the chronicles of war program and in the information chronicles of the war, what in your opinion was the most important thing this year, because it is clear that there were hopes for a counteroffensive, everyone expected a counteroffensive in the spring, then with information appeared. tion that this counteroffensive is not going as we would like, then the foreign press wrote about it, then they began to talk in ukraine that the counteroffensive somehow went wrong, and the peak of all this was the absentee confrontation of the supreme

of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zelenskyi and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhnyi, or rather teams or , let's say, people related to zelenskyi, who tried to torpedo zaluzhnyi, precisely with... the situation with the counteroffensive, how do you assess what was happening at the front in in the 23rd year and what does this say about the future of the front, about what, what we can expect in the 24th? the 23rd year showed exactly one thing that was actually understood in the summer of the 22nd year, if everything we got in the 23rd year we got in the summer of the 22nd year, already today. it's simple, well, there was no russian soldier on the territory of ukraine, but time matters, that's what the 23rd year showed: time matters, if you give something late, then you give it when it can no longer play, you give it to the enemy to dig in, you are giving us

an invasion army, we defeated it in the 22nd year, and as a result, due to all these delays, due to the fact that we had nothing to fight, they let putin collect it. in fact, another army that we can no longer defeat so quickly with the same resources. the 23rd year showed this. also, what is he? showed, and it is also really important, that some kind of conditional war in the long run, war, something like that, it cannot go on in the paradigm that ukraine is being bombed, while russia has intact supply channels, it has an intact economy, it works for itself. and nothing, in principle, they have no problems. that's what the whole problem is for us. therefore, if we want to fight for a long time, and if someone tells us how we should fight a widow, then this war means that we must fight in such a way that the russians bear exactly the same

weight of the war as we bear it, in the same measures, implies the transfer of the war on the territory, the war should be transferred to... russia, absolutely, it should go there, not to our territories. moreover, i will tell you that, roughly speaking, for the victory of our war, in general, one big blackout in russia will be more important, let's say, for russia's desire to calm down, than 25 offensives under bakhmut, under there in the south or somewhere else cutting off someone from somewhere is one thing, and the second is another, after all, it is necessary ... to set the goal of the war correctly, not just push the russians back to their borders, not just go to some negotiating positions, you see, we have to fight in such a way that the russians , well, simply, you know, so that it would be a night terror for them to even remember that they once

attacked us, so that they, you know, tell their grandchildren how terrible it is to fight with ukrainians, and how to do it so olya, in order to implement it. look, that is, you know, there is a war plan from olga len, but the resources from olga len should be for this, that is, specifically for striking. they won't give it once again, as we saw that everyone won't give it today, tomorrow

it turns out that we will give, so let's understand, let's understand aviation, we finished the 23rd year without the promised f16 aviation, that is, history drags on , no one said that they would give in the 23rd year, they said 24, but if at the beginning of the 23rd year , we were told that in the 23rd year , unfortunately, there would be no next year for us. well, the possibility of supplying weapons, so that we are not dependent on political decisions, this is very important, if for this we have to go in some very non-trivial ways, then for this we have to go in non-trivial ways ways look, we have the 23rd year, from this

point of view, a year of lost opportunities: first, nowhere in the world are politicians instead of military leaders engaged in the promotion, announcement and pr of a counteroffensive. six months of concert activity, and we are about to start a counteroffensive, means that the moscow occupier is making three, or even four, lines of defense. pouring them with concrete, never in a country in which there is a responsible military-political leadership, do they start digging the second line of defense and trenches by order of the supreme commander only in the second year after a full-scale invasion, and that in separate areas, in the khupian or donetsk direction, nowhere in the world do they raise champagne, they say, what good israelis for... in one day they formed a government of national unity and everyone went to the defense as one, we have this in the 23rd

year, an opportunity was also lost, having what we have , as one kravchuk said at one time, we never launched the war economy, and the moscow occupier launched it in three shifts, if we need very high-quality and technological things, we have there are partners, we could produce it on the territory of poland right under the border. on the territory of nato and calmly relict there a very important production already as of the 23rd year to have at least a sufficient share of these weapons, when we do not have to depend on whether the trumpists will defeat the rest of the republicans or not on the other side of the ocean, yes that this 23rd year is very difficult from the point of view of lost opportunities, on the horizon of this 24th year so far... it is not visible that these lessons have been learned, these are the illusions that you can fight with

someone else's weapons, that can be fully relied upon on someone, no matter how close your allies are, you should think about whether you are autonomous at least for some of your greatest needs, listen, no one is autonomous, there is no country that does not need some military technologies, russia constantly needs them, although they shout how they are provided, this is not true. but the question is that there are countries and there were countries in a much worse condition than we are, which had an embargo on the supply of arms in general, and they were still building arms supply networks and arms production networks, we just need to talk about it finally, it is not just a matter of thinking, doing , understanding that a certain autonomy is important, there was simply no such scale of the war as it is now, it is, firstly, secondly, incomprehensible, but we are tied to our partners. and it is not clear what the partners put into the concept of the defeat of russia, because for us the defeat of russia

is our victory, that is, that they are not on our territory, and this will be their defeat, and what is what in the concept of biden or in just one moment, but you very correctly used the word partners, partners, not allies, our broadcast vision, our victory, our vision of victory, i think is simple enough. so that the russians sit quietly in the borders that we will draw for them, with some, i don't know, maybe even a sanitary border on their territory, and fear simply from there. for this, an anti-putin coalition is needed, as it was during the second world war, they do not want to join a coalition, they do not want to take on additional responsibilities, these are allied relations with a country that has undergone full-scale aggression, these are allied relations that provide for the possible introduction of contingents, taking

responsibility for strikes on russian territory, at the moment we do not see anything that is too big... we have advanced far enough in this direction, remember the beginning of the 23rd year, when we were afraid to even squeak that, oh my god, something would fly in the direction of russia , now something is flying in the direction of the russian girl and is flying, and who is paying attention to it, well, not here, well, something is flying, it is not flying, you understand, there will be no eteks in the amount of 15 units that fall. during the year we talked a lot with our real experts, who do not study the war on the sofa, they simply analyzed very correctly, in order to overthrow saddam hussein with his large army, before that, 15 attack aircraft flew,

not counting tamagavkas and everything else, and then aviation flew. and only after that the war began, we do not have such a scale, even in the perspective of the coming years, that we will be given such a number of volleys that in moscow, in the center of decision-making, at least somehow felt, you know, most likely, and such , but it will not look like that, well , no war is the same as the previous one, and neither are we now we have a completely different war plan, therefore, most likely, the way we will act will also be sufficiently hybrid methods, and it is necessary to think precisely in this direction, and not think that we will somehow sit on the defensive, and maybe russia will somehow destroy us, because they will supply us with several air defense systems, well, you know, it doesn't work like that either, colleagues, let's leave all these questions to the military, because we are all civilians at this table, we can speak our mind, but we have a supreme

commander, a commander in chief by the forces of ukraine, that's what i wanted. roman , i want to ask you about, you already mentioned about the communication between the government and society, about the fact that it was unsuccessful in 2023, to say the least, because they talked about a counteroffensive, a counteroffensive did not happen, they said more than rather than what we got as a result, we see certain problems in communication between the civilian leadership and between the military leadership, and it is denied at the highest level that this... does not exist, but those western journalists who wrote in respectable american and british magazines , they are in principle they talk about it, and we see that the confrontation is being waged, an informational confrontation, and it is quite serious, what can you say about this communication, which now, well, let's say, it is not so

strong, during war, which could be between the leadership. state and society, well , nothing has changed in our philosophy of communication, it still remains at the level of an e-mail operator who serves video reports of the kvn team in various streams and resources, that is , an e-mail operator looks at how many likes we have it went, how many dislikes, how many reposts , all communication is absolutely based on this logic, we have experienced several information... special operations against the ukrainian population in the 23rd year based on the principle: let's see, are they ready to surrender territories? not ready, they are ready to play elections during wartime, not ready, more dislikes than likes, that is, this is the same peacetime game that we saw, which, in principle , those who are engaged in communications, spied

in another series of black mirror, this this netflix series, where it is a bear who... is voiced by an actor behind the scenes, and he begins to influence this bear then on real flights about the first series of black mirror, i'm not about, i'm not about the pig yet and the prime minister, i'm still more about about communication, and this horror continued, the result is failed budgets, numbers and influences, for example, the so-called single information of the infomarathon, i 'm not talking about the fact that the foreign language that we... for communication with everyone is very important in the world, has turned into the mastery of millions of russian-speaking homes, freedoms and others houses, madhouses, it's just terrible communication that no one in europe... looks at causes irritation on the contrary, than communication as such. next, we see that bul baška is around the office, and this is

an institution in our country, which is not written in the constitution, but is the main one, because we live in an office-presidential republic. in the office, i don't know how many circles of disinformation to rebuke the supreme commander, we can judge this after the so-called meeting of the supreme council took place, communicated finally a question, for example. the second line of defense, maybe engineering tanks will arrive and excavators will start digging something, that is , we understand that now the entire country is becoming a hostage of such communication, and unfortunately, the armed forces of ukraine are also hostages of communication in the rear. for us, this is catastrophic because we now have more than one united nation in parallel, as if gathered into a fist, which lives according to the principle of you or in the armed forces. or for the armed forces, we have exhausted human and monetary resources, this is a small number of people, and a huge number of people who live optional, with

such communication, she lives optional , mastering the war, in the form of scrolling through the telegram for 5 minutes in the evening, and despite the fact that it can be endured, what is it, i will look back there and everything, and it is terrible, because in this case we did not receive a phenomenon, when every defender of israel rushed... regardless of whether he was in australia on vacation, or he went somewhere to study there on another continent, everyone rushed to defend the country, we have a different entropy, and the 23rd year in constant here is this failed communication, when everywhere double standards are highlighted, well , here, for example, in our workshop, remember, diyana panchenko received a criminal case, as a traitor to the motherland from the sbu, and max nazarov with other shari... what kind of double standards, yes, that is, we are watching these double standards all the time, for some reason they are criticized , some are grabbed and criticized, and maybe

even a criminal case is opened, for example, zhenya shevchenko, i am not talking about maryana, there are no questions at all, this is also communication, this is communication of representatives of the authorities in a warring country , and this representative the government is attacking... er, the commander -in-chief of the armed forces at this moment, when we have switched to active defense on the entire front, and not to a counteroffensive, and neither the office of the president nor the supreme commander reacts to this, nobody reacts, maybe they do , but they just don't merge, we don't have much time left, let's talk briefly about communication, about what kind of communication there was between the government and society, and move on to forecasts. the 24th year, because there are literally 5 minutes left until the end of the program, well, the key story is communication, communication must be rebuilt, that is, the age

of the information marathon, you know, in rosy tones, when they tell how the day after tomorrow, so to speak, we will drop a star from the kremlin from the spassa tower and so on and so on, well, all this is the end of history, that is, it was a certain period, you know, how the phenomenon of aristovych, the great prophet in quotation marks ended, should end in the same way. somewhere in this information history , the government's attitude to society, to real needs, has to be restructured, sociology to be rethought, geopolitical challenges to be rethought, because the 24th year will be about money in particular, not only about sacrifice, but about the compilation of certain financial indicators, and we also understand that if we did not want to be beautiful and completely independent, we are not in that situation, we need as much as possible resources, material, i don't know... financial, human, technological and so on, this is one moment, the year 24 means that we are entering a long war, which acquires existential

significance not only for us, but also for the russian federation and for the kremlin, that is, this is a war that will be called a war in russia as well, that is, they have found an enemy where they can channel all their hatred, all their destruction, and then try to sell it. to its impoverished population as some kind of global victory, it will not be a victory for them in any case, but such an intention exists, and i see how the russian discourse is becoming more and more fascist, that is , the transformation of an aggressive but limited war against ukraine, an existential war, a long, protracted, bloody war, and one that in general shapes the meaning of russia's existence, it will be about the 24th year, there are great positives. so that the european union is being rebuilt, quite slowly, but faster than we would like, and we have the shadow of trump, which has already fallen on

american politics, and this... the shadow of trump, it will all just begin, that is, in ascending order, a month from a month to the election, and then the fall of '24, or late fall, early winter, that's when we get a certain big conclusion, i'm afraid on the one hand, well, on the other hand, i'm hoping for the best, because old biden, well he has experienced more than one bad experience, oil, well, you can't change it communication, if you don't... change the actual policy, because communication is actually a derivative of your political goals, of what you do politically, and you know, well, i guess i agree here, yes, it's a rethinking, but not only communication, this rethinking should be internal politics in general, because rethinking what you really attract in order to, well , win in general, really win, not

just sit around, not just... wait, namely win, not can be broadcast on through public resources, for example, as i this recently i heard that people over 45 should fight, because they brought this situation, what a beautiful story, what is this, that the state ukrinform broadcasts it, a good idea, yes, but is it possible to win in such a story, no , it's impossible, when you start dividing your own population into... they 're broadcast on a per-voter basis, meaning the younger the voter, the more the voter is in power , i think we've reached the point where we have, you know , well, there are still really existential concepts of devotion, and it is not only to go there waving something and be in ecstasy, no, devotion is when you have to do something,

because the threat is greater... well, even your life, and it really requires all your strength, not only those , which you are ready to invest in order not to get too stressed, no, this is not the right option , not the right one at all, and you know, sometimes it seems to me that here in ukraine we have such a rather difficult path, because some higher forces, perhaps from we are required, you know, of two things, self-respect, it seems to me, on the one hand, and... and in the principle of responsibility, two things key things, and self-respect, it is not at all about running away or avoiding, it is about, well, responding to the challenge, and look, if we have the following, and responsibility as well, it is absolutely not about to think that someone else can, and let's now choose someone who will not take part in this, now it's not about elections, if

next year we have... at least two things will happen, first, this is really a technocratic government of war and war economy will be created, and after that there will be no imitation of political and european integration processes, and their implementation, and then communication will appear, because so far we lack communication, and it is impossible to build correct communication on imitations, everything ends, this will not be a year of imitation, the 24th year will be a year. and you understand the real ones, you are talking about the fact that this is false communication, because false politics is going on, that is, zelensky wants to be the president of victory, well, he is now the president of war, although he wanted to be the president of peace, well, we remember this history, well, he survived these few yes yes he wants to be he he really wants to be president of victory he wants to win, but the question is that he doesn't quite understand, or his team doesn't quite understand, what tools can be used to do it all,

that is, they want it. that is, and probably, i think that they absolutely sincerely want and prefer this, and the victories that we want to win, including in the 24th year, but they must understand that victory is a great work of all ukrainians, and one cannot really take ukrainians for 45 and send them to the front, and keep ukrainians up to 25, because they are potential voters of the servant of the people party, and therefore, in this context, disperse this whole topic or divide politics and say: we work with these, we don't work with these, because we don't like them, but let them go and fight, and somehow they are there, we dispose of them there, i am talking about this that if a real internal politics, the government of the military economy will appear, then communication will also appear, but for this two things must appear: iq, we have a little difficulty with the supply of iq with shells, with missiles, for.