the minister there was running around the border, the minister 's last name was infrastructural, and he was trying to explain or solve something there, well, it's funny, during my term of office, at the first signs of such threats, i urgently left for warsaw, or invited a lady to my house, associations, we talked, tried somehow explain, defend and find some kind of compromise, all this did not happen, just a pause and we wait for it to get wet somehow by itself, it will not get wet, yulia is absolutely right here. that this is a huge loss for ukrainian economy, this is actually a loss for the polish economy as well, because they also suffer from it in other areas, these voices are still not heard, not heard, i really hope that after all tusk will come to ukraine and they will have a substantive conversation with our current government, and let's put it this way, strategy will win over tactics, but without active work on our part, the miracle over the dnieper or the vistula will not happen, well , we... we saw hugs, well, first of all

, andrzej duda was a person who she was the last european politician to leave kyiv on the 23rd february, and he wrote it in the book, polish on the warrior and, if i’m not mistaken, that’s what they’re called, and then he’ll hug president zelensky, huge help with tanks, first there’s the reception of people, well that, but you see, it turns out so that nothing personal is simple. business, i wanted to question mr. miroslav, is it really just business, and we are here, and we say, well, we have a war, we are suffering, and again, just business, and what is the mood in polish society, of course, that these elections showed what the polish people want society, the elections that took place, but still, however you would evaluate it, and here, whether it can go down, whether some other group of people can join, or a certain community, a profession that will also want to demand something, we are not we know who we are... we crossed

the road, as they say, please, so let's start dealing with a sick head on, from a sick head on healthy feet, why did this problem arise in the first place, that's why this problem arose, that russia attacked ukraine with great aggression, a great war on february 24 on february 20, 24, 2022, and then everyone, all the countries of the european union... spoke of the closure and closure of the borders of ukrainian ports and the possibility of exporting grain and the huge crisis in the supply of african and asian countries with ukrainian grain then the idea of ​​the borders of the corridors of solidarity with ukraine appeared, in order to deliver goods both from

ukraine and to ukraine by land routes, railways and, well... trucks. all the countries of the european union agreed to this. this is a solution that has only vol to be used during the war, there is no talk of any negotiations with the european union, the terms of accession and so on. that's not what it 's about. they are trying to hide this behind our eyes, this is the first thing, that is, it is a temporary solution. second, how many are those protestors? the so-called four border crossing points between poland and ukraine , between 50 and 70 people, what are we talking about, these are big protests, four people protested in slovakia, it was also called a big protest, so we will get out, i don’t know with anyone present during this discussion let's also call ourselves a committee of protestors for the protection of cats, that there is no need to bring cats from ukraine, because there are enough of them in poland, well, they blocked it.

the border as well, so as not to bring, let 's talk about the present, the polish economy will benefit from the war in ukraine, i'm sorry, i say so, but in the trade between poland and ukraine, both in the 22nd year and in the 23rd year, there is surplus, i.e. more poland exports to ukraine than it imports from ukraine, well, this must also be said, losses for the polish economy, as well as from this protest. huge now if there was no indifferent attitude or such an inert attitude from the authorities, both previous and current, to these so-called protests, i.e. blocking the border, in fact , they would have solved this problem a long time ago, how is it possible that military transportation, humanitarian transportation to a country that is at war, is controlled by unknown persons, it means that the state has already lost its functions, the police send them away, they come to the border to those

so-called protesters so that they check what kind of cargo is there, well, you just know, well, it’s such a disgrace, that’s cool what the polish government should... do, i won't usually speak in ukrainian, instead , what i should do is to say that this is a problem of national security, both for poland itself and for the entire european union, well, the russians have already launched their missile on the territory of poland, it flew for 3 minutes and hit targets in ukraine from the west, well, what else needs to happen to solve this problem and perceive it as it should be. issues of national security, ms. yulia, but economy, ms. yulia, what steps should i take now? to do, well, i say once again that we will watch a movie made by mykola snyazhytskyi, he talked to many people and will answer many questions about what kind of people these are, who can stand with them and why this happened, but now

specifically, this the problem, well, not the problem, it is a sign of democracy that everyone can demand their own, because we have losses, we want to change it, again, will all this work? some common denominator, that because you want so much, we lose so much in poland, and ukraine loses so much, that is, so that we understand, well, because it has there can be some kind of consensus, it also doesn’t happen that nothing can be solved with putin alone, because he is a sick person, but, well, it’s like healthy people, with healthy demands that should be steps, and again, it should the government now act actively, and what, yes, please, lady, or? are you me, or come on, yes, i heard you, look, in order to solve something , you need to do something, and this is the main thing, in order to start solving both with carriers and with farmers, you need to systematically deal with this, deputies with this they can't do it, because we all are

not away, we can't move, even i have many polish friends and european friends, i can't talk to them and convince them, because i just... they recently flew to the united states of america, held talks, met with republicans and democrats , the whole group, and stefanchuk still, still can't, and i will honestly tell you, looking at these business trips, i think that we did the opposite worse for ourselves, so i mean about the trip to america, and we achieved absolutely of a different result, therefore what... my republican friends said, if you need money, you came, and if you don't need money, you were gone for two years, so look, that's all, well, if we could talk endlessly, but the deputies can't help here, we can send political statements, we can talk on the phone, but we

can't and won't be able to go anywhere, that's why the government has to take it upon itself, it's their direct responsibility if they can't solve this problem , so let them be released and we will... mean another government, i don't see another option, i'm for it, i'm absolutely sure that you can always find compromises in money in the economy and in finance, in what you can't find compromises, these are values ​​and national security, everything else, sorry, the price of the question, that's why i i think that it is absolutely possible to sit down at the negotiating table, it is possible to discuss with polish colleagues and carriers, but for this it is necessary not to be glamorous. drive along the queues, get up and walk 10 km, talk to people, with some, with others, with fifths, with tenths and talk and understand, then go to politicians, this is how things are done, well , this is how cases are resolved in any sector, not only in public affairs, so in fact i would

talk with them about any compromises, except for the return of permits, that is, except for the cancellation of liberalization, because it is for us in fact... will destroy the free movement we need to fight, so the one point we can't move is the rollback of permits and deregulation of movement, everything else can be negotiated and compromised, i'm absolutely sure of that, here i am now, moving on to mr volodymyr, i'm just going to announce fresh information, it concerns farmers, it doesn't concern transporters, but they are planning to block medicashagins again starting tomorrow. checkpoint between ukraine and poland, i quote: the leader of the protesters, roman kondruv, or kondruv, i just don’t know, so i’m afraid to make a mistake, said that this time the protest will be tougher, the protesters plan to let one car per

hour out of the queue, cars cars and buses will pass, trucks will pass with humanitarian aid, military equipment, dangerous goods and perishable food, well, then what will be tougher on me? mr. volodymyr, now information is appearing, from tomorrow the block, these conditions give how to react to it, how to act here and again, who to go to, to lead the victory. they are in this situation, well, it’s time again, it’s another loss, even though i’ll skip it, it will still be an accumulation of equipment, people and emotions, as always not needed in this situation, and again losses, please, well look, i believe that this situation is not yet it will be decided, kubrakov should live in warsaw, he is the vice-prime minister of ukraine, he is a person who has enormous powers, i don't know how his relationship with the president is now, but nevertheless he will stand up. the interests of ukraine, and in particular the sphere he takes care of, is

the number one issue, the number two issue, there should at least be a telephone conversation between the presidents of the states, or rather the president and the prime minister of poland, it seems to me that the toolkit for involving the united states and brussels in solution to this issue, he did not fully engaged, this is not a minor problem, this is a problem that poses a ... threat to the national security of ukraine, and just as the president explains that the release of tatarov could damage the state's governance and lead to the defeat of ukraine on the battlefield, so he must explain , that the transport collapse on the western border of ukraine can also cause defeat on the battlefield, and these things, they are absolutely easily correlated with each other, and here i would also like to support ms. yulia that the issue of transport visa-free is covered... but it is important if we will take at least one step back on this issue, our entry into

the european union will be many times more difficult than it is today. we silently went to a meeting with the romanians regarding the deep- water navigation of the danube-black sea, well , half an hour passed like that, no one seemed to even notice. this has been a fundamental issue for us for 20 years. we actually handed it over. well, you can understand that we passed it thanks to having good neighborly relations with romania. and we now really have a critical direction towards this state regarding transport logistics, but let's pass we do not have the right to visa-free transportation, and this should be articulated calmly, professionally, and reasonably, without rude statements from the rostrum of the un general assembly, in a confidential conversation, how to get out of this situation? here , of course, the question is about qualifications, again, i do not blame anyone, i did not conduct testing before accepting the position. or other people, but again, knowing your work at the time as a minister, knowing the work of ms. yulia in her position as a deputy, i

understand how important the expertise of people is, so the question here is whether people have all instruments and have a sufficient number of connections and contacts in order to solve these issues, so i don't know, i won't do it, well , maybe something is missing somewhere, we literally have four minutes, a little less, i will ask very briefly i have a short question, but mr. maroslav, i will ask you, do you watch in general? polish tv channels, i have no doubt that this topic is somehow discussed there, or it is like that, it is there, it does not affect us, especially, so in general, well, and it is, well, this topic is certainly present in mass media, but it must be said that it is devoid of analytics, plus the expert environment is silent, completely silent, it was clear that... in the fall, in the winter, russia will use any means against ukraine

to exhaust ukraine , the ukrainian economy, including, the blockade contributes to the realization of this goal, and the blockade is directly related to the russian measures to exhaust ukraine, the beginning of this blockade process on november 6, its form is absolutely unacceptable, what my interlocutors. which they said that we will not surrender the first point of the license, these so-called protesters say that we need to return the licenses, and we will protest until march, when talks begin about the continuation of the cancellation of this licensing, that is, a protest in this form, if he does not there will be direct action on the part of the state, it will continue until the end of march, that is, this temporary state will actually be permanent, and this is this... the perspective that is now facing poland, ukraine, and not another, and this should be discussed

to say that and not only to say, to voice positions and so on, but to say that this is a matter of national security of ukraine, it is self -evident, but of poland, the entire european union and the eastern flank of nato, it is necessary to talk about this when resorting to the fact that there ivan should be given more licenses with polish-polish carriers, first of all give ivan... some licenses and so on for transportation in ukraine, this will bring the whole conversation to a dead end. well, we literally have 40 minutes, i will be very brief, i have one question and to ms. yulia and to mr. volodymyr, and maybe. proposals to speak on the sidelines here , well, you know, we demand one thing, and then we say , let's leave there, talk and decide, and then we will say in public that we have agreed , is there no such thing here from the side of the protesters, well, as if, let's have a serious talk, what do we want, mrs. yuryu, please, you know, any kind of negotiations are going on and so and so, there is an official part, there is an unofficial part, where

difficult issues are discussed behind closed doors, so no difficult decision is happens exclusively through official negotiations, and these are multi-level contacts that must be at absolutely all levels, at the ministerial level, at the deputy level, at all those who have influence and the opportunity to convey this to the poles, including about national security, therefore, in order to solve the problem, it is necessary involve everyone, and if you send one deputy minister or even two, it will absolutely not solve the problem. very briefly, mr. volodymyr, what would you do, now that you are in office, what would you do? in fact, i would be in warsaw right now, as i am i have done dozens of times, when such problems were raised, i would turn to president petro poroshenko to speak on his behalf, i would use my contacts in washington and in brussels to influence the polish government and polish business, and

the last, what is important to do today is to give a clear understanding to the poles that we are restoring ukraine together. that we are returning to the form of joint ventures, that in fact the profit of joint activities will be much higher than the conditional ephemeral competition of ukrainian companies with polish ones transport market of the european union. thank you very much for the conversation, thank you for joining, volodymyr omelyan, ex-minister of infrastructure of ukraine, serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, myroslav cheh, a polish politician, as mr. myroslav said, a pole of ukrainian origin, and yulia klymenko. deputy of ukraine, thank you, i wish you a good evening, well, we say goodbye to our guests, now i will say once again that we will actually watch a movie made by mykola knyazhytskyi, it is called a pro-russian operation on the polish border, he went to poland, yes, as mr. emelyan said, and we will learn more about the protesters, about the mood and what is happening behind the scenes, let's watch a film about the russian operation on the polish border.

we are in the polish sejm, right here in this place, a few days ago on hanukkah there was a hanukiya. this hanukkah was scandalously extinguished with a fire extinguisher by jackozh brown. at the same time, he injured a woman who wanted to stop him. jack job brown is one of the leaders of the protests. in the polish-ukrainian border and one of the initiators of these protests. everything that this one does pro-russian party, it favors moscow. why did they try to create a scandal here in the diet on that day, because on that day the new tusk government came to power. why do they block ukrainian military goods and ukrainian economic goods at the border, because it is in the interests of russia to quarrel between our two peoples. about it in our film. this

special operation began on november 6 , 2023, it has not ended yet, at one point the movement of several thousand ukrainian trucks was blocked on the polish-ukrainian border. in almost two years of war, the border with poland turned into a corridor of life through which ukraine received humanitarian aid and weapons. in addition, in conditions of closed sky and sea, it was the only way for our goods, and therefore a source of currency. after february 24, 2022 , the countries of nato and the european union became ukraine's global rear. during this time , aid was provided in various ways, humanitarian, military, economic, in the total amount of about 300 billion dollars. she could get to ukraine only by land,

rail and road. that's why in order to dramatically increase transportation and save ukraine from the blockade, the european commission canceled permits for ukrainian carriers. from 2022, like their colleagues from the eu, it is not necessary to obtain a license for transportation to the european union. in march 2023, this rule was extended until june 30, 2024. this year is called transport visa-free. i myself have used this phrase very often, although in reality it is not entirely accurate. the european union was just beginning with the free movement of people and... goods between borders, ukrainians have been around for a long time they are visa-free, have been traveling through the european union for a long time, now goods have started to travel, but the reason in this case was not economic, the reason is to create a real corridor in solidarity. and so the polish carriers received permission to strike, to put it simply, they were allowed to attack the corridors of solidarity. who did it. the government of the law and

justice party, which had already lost the elections, but still remained in power. therefore, the strikers were closely guarded by the police. the blockers put forward the following demands. the first demand of the blockers is to return the old one permission system. but the european commission threatened on november 15. poland with a punitive procedure if the border is not unblocked. and on december 4, the relevant european commissioner adina confirmed the position of the eu. licenses for ukrainians will not be returned, corridors of solidarity will not be closed. the second requirement is to prohibit the registration of companies with capital from outside the eu in poland. in this way, the strikers want to throw ukrainian companies out of the polish market. the third requirement. poles should get access to the ukrainian shlyach system, this would enable poles to work for ukrainians drivers for less money than polish drivers.

currently, ukrainians with polish license plates, having entered ukraine, cannot leave back, as this is prohibited by the martial law regime. the fourth requirement is separate queues for cars from the european union. there is a queue in the base. poles believe that this system gives advantages to ukrainians, because they. can calmly wait at home for their turn. instead, poles have to be at the border, which increases time and reduces the number of their flights. the fifth requirement is to allocate separate queues for empty cars, that is, ukraine, which is interested in the export of its agricultural products by road transport, since there is no alternative to it, it should take away the lines for the departure of loaded trucks and give them to empty polish cars. it is impossible to fulfill the demands of this group of poles , the european commission openly stated this, because they are actually blocking military cargo, spare parts for drones, medicine, the state border service, the western media, and

the drivers themselves are openly speaking about this. aviation was taken away from us because of the war, ports were taken away because of the war, and now we really only have land transport, which can transport goods. we have tanks on the eastern border that block, well, actually the entire east, starting there with uzbekistan, kazakhstan and all the other states that we have been there before. here in the west, their tractors are what they are for us, in fact we equate them to tanks, i drove 40 km for six days, the guys drive for six days and two sundays, yesterday passed, for example, we drove half a kilometer there at such a pace, today we are there we drove half a kilometer and there was no traffic at all all night.

blocked the three largest checkpoints, this in the first days of the attack on the corridors of solidarity , korchova, kraków, comb. ruska in lviv oblast and dorogusk yagodin in volyn, from three to five thousand cars stopped at the same time, two drivers died in queues at the border. provocateurs even crushed our drivers with cars. the police watched silently. but what did this blocking look like in practice? maybe the tracks were blocked with concrete blocks, or hundreds of trucks stood across the roads? no, half a thousand kilometers of the ukrainian-polish border have been blocked by fifty people, who are behind an extensive network. russian agents influence, they were gathered under its roof by the confederacy party. who are these people? rafal mcler, the owner of the transport company rafal mcler

transport, which was engaged in transportation to russia and belarus, the leader of the far-right confederation of freedom and independence in the lublin voivodeship. he repeatedly made anti-ukrainian statements even after the invasion, such as ternopil or lviv with their cult of murderers - this is shameful. a situation that needs to be dealt with. accused the ukrainian army of receiving fuel on preferential terms and then selling it carriers that go to poland and displace local companies. rafal mekler's company is not the first to hold protests in the interests of the kremlin. previously, they opposed anti-russian sanctions. other companies were involved in their activities. kamtrans, jata-trans, bortom, glt poland. kms logistics and peotrans. the leader of the confederation at the all-polish level until 2022 was janusz korwin mikke, who in 2022

declared that russia was not involved in the tragedies in buch and called for admiration for the determination of russian soldiers. another leader of the confederacy party. grzegorz brown stated: ukraine is a fiction, a very dangerous fiction. the fiction of an independent state, a civilized partner and the fiction of a sovereign people with whom it is possible to establish long-term neighborly relations. it was grzegorz braun, the only one in the polish parliament, who voted against condemning the actions. for crimes in ukraine already after the atrocities in buch. grzegorz braun personally participates in all political actions of all polish youth affiliated with the confederation, as well as maintains direct relations with the paramilitary right-wing radical group the spouse circle. this one is polish the structure, in turn, closely cooperates with the neo-nazi group rusich from russia. rusich's fighters are directly fighting in

ukraine... under the authority of the occupying units of the russian army and private military companies of the aggressor country, in particular in the wagner pmc. moscow worked carefully and for a long time on its network of collaborators in poland, because the support of ukraine there is very high, and therefore this support must be undermined by any means, but the ultimate goal of the attack is not only ukraine. dmitry made public the plan to destroy poland itself medvedev in his article literally two days before the attack on the border. in the article dmytro. poland, megalomania, a complex of inferiority and the phantom of an empire that never happened, poland is empty as an expansionist imperial and irresponsible state, whose role in international politics is compared to the role of the third reich on the eve of world war ii. at the end of the article, there are five threats that allegedly emanate from poland, although in fact these are five strategic directions that russia is trying to push

poland with the help of pro-russian forces. his agents and useful idiots. do you know what was the first mistake of the ukrainian authorities? the authorities approached this issue exclusively as an economic one and handed it over to the clerks in the ministries. we tried to explain that this is actually a political issue and a matter of national security. but then the authorities decided to wait. i believe that we need to have a very balanced policy, to have a plan of action and to follow it, and we have this plan. it's all there, i'm sure we can do it all, i think we just have to give it a little time to our neighbors, everything is getting warmer. instead, literally from the first days of the conflict, i insisted that this was a russian special operation, and that the authorities would not

be able to... in fact, they hit us in the back, opened a second front, now the western one, what is the point of appealing to terrorists in driver's vests. we had to turn to the newly created ukraine-nato council, because this is an attack not just on ukraine, but on the entire free world, which has opened its corridors of solidarity to us. this was once done for great britain and west berlin. in 1940, the united states handed over to velika britain has fifty destroyers, but this... was more of a symbolic gesture. only in 1942, having changed public opinion in the us in favor of war aid to great britain and overcoming the political resistance of the isolationists, president roosevelt signed the lend-lease act, or literally, the rent and debt act. britain received $31 billion worth of equipment and weapons. at current prices, this is 510 billion dollars. from june 23. 948 until

may 12, 1949, the united states and great britain supplied west berlin with coal, food, building materials, medicines, by air. the land connection of the western zone of berlin with the american, british and french sectors was blocked by order of stalin. during the blockade , 248,000 humanitarian flights were made, which is 2,300,000. west berlin would not have survived without the support of the free world, which is why closing the border effectively destroys the corridor of life that helps us win. our boy is taking a humanitarian woman walking, he was not let down, he is standing, waiting in line, it is not possible, that's all, that's all solidarity, that's all, what i wanted to say, taras chmut, head of the charitable fund come back alive, reported that on...