japan, which will also allow us to have access to such climate finance, and separately, i want to say that in december of this year at the cop-28 conference, we presented our climate policy, the climate policy of ukraine, and today we set ourselves a very ambitious goal, this is the introduction of the emissions trading system in ukraine in 2026 , for that... we need to adopt the relevant legislation in the 24th year, in the 25th year we can launch this system in pilot mode. the 23rd year became, one might say, a milestone for us, in terms of our european integration, for us have given the green light for the start of negotiations with eu accession, and obviously this path will not be easy for your ministry of environmental protection. natural resources, because

it will be necessary to implement certain reforms, you have already partially said, announced what the ministry plans to do in the coming years, but precisely in the context of reforms, perhaps some innovations are still expected? i will start by saying that when we received the previous report of the european commission on the assessment of our european integration reforms, we received an assessment one for five points. scale, it was the estimate for the previous seven years, the lowest estimate, the lowest, er, for the year 2023, er, when my team and i worked in the 22nd and some part of the 23rd year, the corresponding report, the conclusion came, and we already we have a score of two, that is, in fact, in one year we did as much as we did in 7 years, and this report already contained not only an assessment of the result. there

was also an assessment of dynamics, and this assessment of dynamics was four on a five-point scale. i can say one thing that our task is keep the same pace next year. our task is to have a clear plan and follow it. what to do, what reforms? in fact, it is already written in that report of the european commission, there attention is also drawn to the need... to pay attention to climate policy, and by the way, a month ago i was in brussels and i presented to the new european commissioner in charge of climate issues, mr. hoekstra our climate policy, we presented it at cop-28 to the whole world, because at this presentation there were 15 ministers of the environment from different countries of the world from all continents of the earth's layer, we showed them, received appropriate feedback, and we understand how we will move. we also drew

attention to the need to complete the reform of waste management, the reform of industrial pollution, the reform of the development of protection of biodiversity and protected areas. most of these legislative initiatives are either already registered in the verkhovna rada or are ready to be transferred there. the question is that today we should focus on speeding up the adoption of secondary legislation and... the location of new laws, who are currently in parliament. thank you for this conversation, success in work and a successful year. thank you. helping the military, the best new year's gift.

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the land given to me by god and always believe in my invincibility. aid to the military, the best new year. gift. mr. german, what has become the biggest challenge for our company in the past year energy industry? well, of course, the attacks of the russians, and this, well, they started already last year, yes, that is, from october 10, this forced terror of the energy system of our country began, but january, and february, and beres. they systematically attacked our energy system, so this is definitely the biggest challenge, the challenge for all of us was, and i want to say that we really showed resilience, and what conclusions were drawn and what experiences were included in

the government's energy resilience plan, because i know that it was being developed, in fact definitely we got, you know, this... i always say to my colleagues that i'm happy to share the experience after the war, but i really hope you never need it, but actually we got a lot of experience, firstly, how to maintain the system , what technical decisions to make during strikes, how to hold, hold the generation, how to quickly fix the transmission of electricity, so... it's a huge complex, a complex of knowledge that, unfortunately, we got, and i think it's really an experience that no country in the world faced an analogue of what our energy system went through, and in terms of what key

decisions, of course, they are embodied in the energy strategy that we adopted just after these massive attacks, and the key thing is... decentralization of generation, that is, this is a key conclusion, because unfortunately, the greatest impact was on the regions that will limit. in local generation, that's why this is our plan, we will move according to it, and of course a very large number of projects have been implemented from the point of view of protection, and of course we are indebted to our energy companies, because they very often, as we have seen, they work under repeated shelling, the russians deliberately aim a second time at those energy infrastructure objects where they can come... but it is interesting in this context, how quickly is it possible to restore the power supply after the shelling?

well, actually, look, it's all done by people, yes , and really people, people are fearless, strong, and you know, what you said, they're really, well, they're classic terrorists, because russians, russians, certainly, russians are classic terrorists, they, they are not what they are they are shelling there... because we had objects that were hit there seven times, in a row, yes, but the question is that they see clearly, for example, in the kherson region we have a lot of such cases when they they clearly see that a brigade is going , they are going to repair the electricity supply, a car drives up, the tower goes up, people start working, they start objectively, purposefully hitting... they are aiming at the energy workers, it is absolutely obvious, it is not the military, there

are no weapons there, i.e. people are doing their job to restore power, and they fire artillery, they use drones, specifically for that, so they, they are classic terrorists these russians, and actually, you know, everything that's done in the system is done by people, yeah, because i always say that the most... the most terrible losses are human losses, unfortunately, we have losses of energy workers , and they are quite tangible, and because, well, any leftovers can be bought there, made there, found, exchanged, but a person, of course, is priceless. the ministry of energy helps families who have lost their breadwinners were energy workers, how does it help, of course, this, well, how. it is done through the relevant companies, yes, that is, everyone works, well, there are these people who, unfortunately, died, they worked

there in certain energy companies, definitely those companies, we cooperate with them so that they support accordingly. let us return to our situation with electricity, especially in the part of its generation, i want to quote you here, mr. herman, in one of the interviews you said nuclear. energy is on the threshold of a renaissance, i.e. rebirth, yes, and ukraine, together with the whole civilized world , will develop this industry, you said, and could you explain in more detail what you meant when you spoke specifically about the renaissance, about the revival, because we just said it, we are constantly restoring what destroyed by the russians , terrorists, we have a temporarily occupied zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in... so , what did you mean, look, well, it really is a renaissance of nuclear

energy in the world today, because for a certain time, especially after fukushima, there was such a discussion, or is it necessary at all, is it safe and so on , the rejection of the peaceful atom, and you know, some countries have given up on nuclear energy, but there are other examples, there are countries that, on the contrary , they continued to operate... those nuclear units that they planned to close , in particular these are belgium, spain, and the key thing is definitely ukraine, for us nuclear energy is the basis of our energy system, here we are, nuclear generation produces more than 55% of all electricity, even without the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, and if you look at the results of kop 208, which have just arrived in dubai just energy panels, then ah... the memorandum that was announced there, it calls for a tripling of nuclear power by

the year 50, and it says very clearly that if the world does not do this, the world will not achieve a green transition at all, so here you know, it's a bit of a paradox for many countries, well, because , for example, the countries where the greens came and said that we're giving up nuclear energy, we want to ... restore the source, because we, the green party, there , which promotes, this is our policy, today in principle, here is this memorandum, it says that without nuclear energy, you are on your own... the member goals of the green transition will never be realized in the world until the 50th year, so this is very important, but there is one nuance, you mentioned the zaporizhzhya nuclear plant, i always say it, and this is actually recognized by our partners , and we discussed this at the general conference of the magat this year, that if, god forbid, even

some small incident happens at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, then... the question of the renaissance of nuclear energy in the world may remain a big question, because if you do not answer as you please to protect a nuclear facility, it will be difficult even for private capital to go into such projects, so this is a very important thing, that is, it is a very important thing, because unfortunately, there are a lot of things that are happening ... as a result of that barbaric aggression of russia against ukraine, they are asking questions of a global nature in general for the whole world, and if the world does not find answers and reactions to all this, then a lot can change, well, in a negative way, well

, i understand that the only answer option that they see is or they can to us about... or to the russians it is de-occupation , that's right, the answer is obvious, it is obvious even without a large number of international resolutions that speak about it, in particular the last general conference of the iaea, where, by the way, ukraine was elected to the board of governors, this is a very important step for us, and there it is very clearly written in the resolution that the russians should leave the station immediately. they will go, their methods, their influence on the nuclear industry in general, and on the whole world, it will remain, look, it will remain, but it is going to a minimum, well, this is the way, this is the way the obvious way out, they won't be in a civilized market, why are you sure of that, and i'm sure, because the world is moving towards it, i'm sure, because we're

removing barrier after barrier there to make it... happen, of course i would like to do it sooner, but nuclear energy is very, well, in general, it is a very complicated, complicated type of industry and generation in general, it is complicated, it cannot be replaced as quickly as gas, for example, you can buy it elsewhere, i did not buy it here, bought there, whether there is coal or other other resources, everything is much more complicated there, and i i think it is very... important that these sanctions work, why? because this is the only intellectual article of export in russia's energy industry, it is not gas, not coal, it is not fossil fuels, it is where there is intelligence, therefore it is necessary, there is nothing for barbarians to do in civilized markets. could 2024 be

the year it happens? i think a big chance, a big chance, a lot of things are happening, you know, although i remember when the great war started, and there was a lot of skepticism, even that, uh, they can move them out of the nuclear supply market fuel, there was a lot, there were discussions , and i personally spoke with many ministers of european countries, and they say, well, you understand that it takes more time, and we did it in a year and a half, so again, if you want to achieve... there is always, always a way, how to do it, of course, it requires effort, effort, partnership and unification, but i want to say that the level of solidarity that exists today with ukraine specifically in the energy sector, well, it is huge , this in particular confirms our union with the general

the european power grid, you mentioned the start of a full-scale... war, two days before that we merged with the ntso system, and uh, and here, it's interesting, considering now what we can import in emergencies, what we can we export, and is this the maximum that you see development in this direction, look, we have a concept, and this is part of our energy strategy, and this is... the task set by the president of ukraine - the energy hub of europe, and within the framework of this task, accordingly we have to increase. interconnectors with europe to to achieve, we have plans to increase first to 6 gv, then to 10, and of course we need

to increase generation, and in order to really export electricity, because according to all the calculations of the same nsi, by the 40th year there are numbers, they talk about a shortage of electricity in certain countries. ukraine can easily cover this deficit, plus it is a very good opportunity for business, yes, because investors are happy to come to ukraine in order to invest specifically in the energy sector in order to have opportunities to export electricity. then we talk about many other projects, this is the same hydrogen, which today is very much on... the development of this direction is taking place, these are small modular reactors, this is definitely the future, but you know, in

energy projects, they are always so time-consuming, but sometimes everything happens faster than even planned, that's why i'm sure that ukraine has a huge potential, again, the largest gas storages in europe are in ukraine, and today er... for this winter, somewhere around 3 billion cubic meters of gas non-residents keep in ukraine despite the war , that is, they are coming here now, they are in ukraine during the war, but imagine what the potential will be after the victory, in which case we can count on the gas of non-residents, as you said, well, this is a question if they will be ready to sell, of course , yes, but again, er... there is an opportunity to buy gas on the market, and this winter there is no more, well, in fact, the europeans, they passed last winter with the manipulations of the russians on the market, they

felt that this is when the price of gas jumped there to almost 3 thousand dollars, and this very significantly affected the economy of many countries, and countries began to introduce price caps, countries began to make administrative decisions in the market. therefore, in fact, europe has already united for this winter, they have created a common procurement platform, and this does not give the russians the opportunity to manipulate prices any more, some qualitative changes are expected in the gas industry next year, well, we will increase production, we are already even in this year in the war we increased production, and in fact we will continue to increase production, that is, we we see that our key task is... to fully ensure consumption, this is the first task, to fully ensure the country's consumption with its own production, for this there are all preliminaries, and secondly, i was recently in

germany, i spoke with my colleague robert habyk, and we discussed that ukraine has opportunities, including, since gas is still a transitional type of fuel in the green transformation, including supplying even to germany, if we have such opportunities. as for the approaches, we all have a rational one in our everyday life to use our resources, and there is electricity, gas, coal, what is available, and can you say that ukrainians have become more thrifty, you know, well, winter has passed, and this is a shutdown for people, it is definitely, you know, it did rethinking in general, what is light and what is energy

? , but this is the same, you understand, when a person is without light and there is light here it appeared, of course, everyone is trying to use it as much as possible, and we asked that because at this time someone is without peace. help, we had a message like this , share the light, and i want to say that our people are so conscious that even when they get light there by the hour, they tried, we saw that people started saving, and this , you know, it seems to me that the russians wanted a blackout, the russians wanted, again, one of the reasons why they massively... and began to strike the energy system, including the export of ukrainian of electricity to europe, because when the europeans used ukrainian electricity, they consumed

less russian gas, well... that is, it is for them, no matter what, the ukrainian energy system for them, it is dangerous from all sides, and they really wanted its unconditional blackout, but i think they got, you know, yeah, it was a tough, tough winter, really, and we'll see how they're going to attack and the scale of this winter, but you know, that's how much the people in the union have shown themselves and so much... people were ready to unite and even this in the principle of suffering when you don't have access to light, but it seems to me that we became even stronger, we united and became even stronger, we were ready to endure it, because of that we knew that there would still be light, and we were ready to do this because we are all united for the sake of victory, absolutely.

true, i liked your words that ukraine , the energy system is dangerous for the russians, yes, but the sooner they realize that in general ukraine is dangerous for them, the sooner it seems to me that victory will come, thank you for this conversation, mr. herman, thank you to you, with next year thank you very much general hojas welcome to the program it's always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you for the opportunity. general, president biden mentioned at the white house press briefing that he wants ukraine to win this war. these are words he has not said before. you advocated such a change in rhetoric. what real impact do you think this statement might have? i believe that the most important thing that the american president can do is to say

that... america's policy is the victory of ukraine. these are our strategic goals. because it is in our interests for ukraine to defeat russia. that's why i was surprised when he finally said it, standing next to president zelensky. unfortunately, the way he said it didn't sound convincing. i'm not sure what it actually is. there was a change in policy, and when i heard from secretary of state blinken at his press conference two days ago, it still lacked clarity. i think the most important task for any leader is to clearly define goals. if the us really changed its policy, and that is indeed our goal, then this is great news because it means there can be no more excuses for providing ukraine

with the capabilities it needs. and germany and other countries will take this as an example. and this will be a real blow to the kremlin. because the kremlin sees that they have no hope of a decisive victory. their hope is that the west will lose its will to support ukraine. and so, when the us president says: "we want ukraine to win, and we will do everything necessary for this, it has become a real problem for the kremlin. general, i know, can you shed some light on why there is a delay, is it really just border and migration disputes or is there something more? i think it's really american political games. we

do have problems at the... us border, we don't have the right immigration policy, we don't have the right balance between bringing in the people we need and protecting sovereignty and stopping the flow of criminal gangs and drugs, that's a serious problem in us politics, and therefore the republicans see this as an opportunity for pressure, because i i see how much the president, biden and the democrats want to help. in ukraine, as well as taiwan and israel, and republicans prioritize local, domestic political gains over international politics. this is ironic, because the majority of republicans in congress and in general throughout america also support ukraine. this is the politics of clean water. in

the pre-election year.