there was a risk, and the second thing is that the loans are starting to be significant in the domestic market, and this really, if there are such loans, will lead to inflation and possibly to a change in the exchange rate, we already saw this in the 22nd year in july, when we financed with domestic loans 100 billion hryvnias and the course had to be changed then, and everyone felt it because of inflation and because of the change in the course, that's why there are such risks. and we already partially see that someone is starting to get nervous about such risks and people are buying more dollars and reaching record values, so this all indicators indicate that the situation is actually so serious and complicated. mr. timofiyu, you have now listed what methods can be used if there really is no expected funding, expected help from international partners, and as bloomberg writes, the prime minister. minister of ukraine, mr.

shmygal, he is concerned that such measures will have to be taken already this month, already in january 24th, do you share this concern? it's hard for me to say, because it depends on the government itself and their decisions, and what their current situation is, at the level macroeconomics is easier to say, because now the reserves, reserves of the national bank are high, so there are certain reserves for macroeconomic stability, but it is valid. our first priority is the army, it is defense spending, so if money does not come from our partners, then there will be certain restrictions on certain projects, initially these will be projects, certain expenses that can be postponed for later, this actually happens a lot , that is, it will not be such a sudden, you know, sudden change, but we will see first limitation of certain funding, only later...

the government will be forced to limit the funding of more such current expenses. mr. timofiyu, you also mentioned the record devaluation of the hryvnia, the demand for buying the dollar. in your opinion, what would be your advice, should ukrainians continue to try to save in dollars, perhaps in some other currency, to protect themselves from devaluation? what would be your advice? well, it's difficult to give advice here, because, for example, if we would have given advice last year, well, here's an economist. advised that look, high inflation, yes, so most likely there will be some kind of devaluation or there is pressure for devaluation, yes, come on people, buy dollars, well, but the dollar did not devalue, and in fact it strengthened somewhere in the fall, and that was when they let it float a little, that is, it was a surprise , now the situation is a little different, we see that there is pressure on the dollar and at the same time inflation is quite low, and, for example, see, well, of course, it is not best to just keep money. when people have them,

because many don't really have anything to keep, yes, but if there is and there is something to save, then a person still chooses between saving it in hryvnias, in dollars, or on the contrary , making a donation, and many people i know donate to the army, but you asked a direct question, how to save, if a person wants to save, and i would not keep directly in hryvnias on deposits, i would now have many opportunities, for example, to buy. war bonds or something else, it will help the army and the government, and at the same time it will give you some additional interest, it can be done directly through the action, or you can partially diversify, economists always they they are careful and say that for a person who does not want to take risks, diversification is better, to choose the tools that he has for saving, and to invest a little in one, a little in the other, and if a person wants to take a risk, then he can...

you just know , choose a start -up to do something, maybe even a military one, yes for the defense industry, maybe it will take off, if it works out, yes, or agree with someone to invest in something, these are very risky investments, but they can return very big money, so economists usually recommend not to take such risks a and diversify a little in the hryvnia, a little in other instruments, yes, but if a person wants to take risks, it is possible. in the end, i want to ask you not so much about the economy, but about your post, which caused such a violent reaction in social networks about the mobilization based on the principle of the lottery, which was used for some time in the united states, you also, when you edited the post, you indicated your own , that you do not support such a method, but there are those who point out that it can be a fair method, here you can explain your position, why exactly are you against it, and if possible briefly?

in fact, the lottery is indeed a method that even today the united states of america or other countries can use if they start mobilizing. mass and and a lot of people in the comments support it, for example, i spoke to some military or people who have returned, there, for example, max kolesnikov or others, they support directly in the direct text, let's have a lottery, and the other alternative, which is now public, it's a tax house, yes, a tax payer, fight or work, yes, and a tax payer, he doesn't mobilize, and the one who doesn't pay mobilizes, she discriminates... according to a certain qualification, yes, as much as a person earns, that is , there are no good options here, there is a third alternative in the world, and i might write about it , this is when such high salaries are paid, and when the army essentially has enough volunteers, but today

it looks like ukraine does not have such a capacity, we just discussed the budget deficit with you, thank you very much, we will return to these topics, in particular the issue of mobilization now. very active is being discussed, in particular, in the light of the government's bill, which has caused a lot of discussion. thank you for joining our broadcast, tymofiy mylovanov, adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, was with us. well, my colleague taras levchenko asked several kyivans how they adapt their family budgets to the new wartime realities and how they assess ukraine's economic situation and whether they have their own savings. let's see i have 300 with my pension. how much is 3300 and i have 26 years of teaching experience, then no savings can be made with such a pension, of course, but what can the economy be like in such a difficult period? i myself come from the chernihiv

region of pgt makoshyn, so many people do not have jobs there either, so there is no work anywhere... a little more than a year and a half ago, i live in the czech republic, and when i first left, there was such a story that the prices of ukrainian and kyiv prices were very similar, but over time the difference became more noticeable, because the hryvnia was asking, the krona remained in place,

well, i'll tell you this, it's much cheaper here, all the same, all the same cheaper products, anyway cheaper transport is simply free, if only... well, economically, expenses are not comparable to income, anyway, this is some kind of help from relatives, from the state, first of all , to change wages, well, i mean there , to raise ordinary employees and economically develop our establishment. i mean there , so that new jobs are opened, do you keep your savings in hryvnias or not? all other currencies, in hryvnias, of course, but why not in dollars, for example, or in euros? well, the dollar is already running out of money, i was born in the soviet union, used to saving, ugh, that and that's why i don't need this habit now, and what is the current economic situation of ukraine in your opinion, after the full-scale

russian invasion? well, it's difficult, we live only on dopo mainly with the help of our partners, of course, they help a lot, without them we wouldn't survive. but not as much as needed. well, let's return to the topic of assistance to ukraine from international partners. the united states currently has no budgetary funds for new military support to ukraine. this was said by the coordinator of the us national security council john kirby. the official notes that on december 27 , us president joe biden signed the last package of aid to kyiv, for which there were funds according to his authority. this $250 million package included ammunition for anti-aircraft defense, rocket launchers, and artillery. let me remind you that the us congress will not be able to approve a bill on military aid to ukraine starting in the fall of 2023. president biden has proposed a more than

$100 billion national security bill to congress, of which $61 billion offer to send aid to kyiv. but now, as john kirby said, the money for ukraine has already run out. we provided ukraine with the last package of security assistance, for which we have funds just before the new year and after christmas. and we have to get the support of congress so we can continue to do that. and the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , dmytro kuleba, in a comment to cnn, once again called on congress not to struggle with providing aid to ukraine, because, as kuleba says, money for ukraine is an investment, not charity. we have no plan b. we are always confident in plan a, ukraine will always fight with the resources available to it. and, as nato secretary general rightly said, everything that is provided. this is not charity, this is an investment in the defense of nato and an investment in the protection of the prosperity of the american

people. because, even theoretically, if russia prevails in ukraine, then other world leaders will be tempted to follow russia's example, and ensuring security in our region and in other regions of the world will then demand a much greater price from the united states. does ukraine still need a plan b just in case? if aid from the us will be taken away and why did the main military partner of ukraine run out of resources for help? let's discuss further. the former ambassador of ukraine to the usa, valery chaly, is with us live. good evening. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. let's talk about the fact that the last tranche of military aid from the usa has already been allocated, as john kirby says, and more money for ukraine, at least in the powers that the us president currently has. how do you assess whether it is really for ukraine? it's a critical situation now, well, first of all, i appreciate it as a signal to the congress itself, secondly, according to my

information, there is still money, well, maybe, i don’t know something, but the 300 million that were adopted in the military budget for the 24th year, i did not hear that they were used , that is, if they were used in this tranche, then i will be very surprised, because in principle it was not planned that way, so there are three more conditionally 300 million, plus there are programs... of course, this is not a package where ukraine has 61.4 billion , this is completely different money, but still they indicate that the usa is leaving support, only the problem is only in volumes, and i always say in ukraine that the usa, ukraine, as they say, is not confused with jargon , they are not refused, i explain a lot to those of us who are fighting at the front, because this disappointment has already reached there, and i explain that the usa, ukraine will... but it’s just that now we are talking about a non- political the support that will remain, not the support of joseph biden's office, that is

, it will remain, not the cementing of the euro-atlantic union and the ramstein project, but precisely about this package, which will give an opportunity to talk about the plan of the 24th year, namely the deoccupation of the territory of ukraine, so i honestly i do not know why the white house refused lendlease, i don't want to go into those details, i think it's... a mistake, if they refused lendlease, i mean they didn't extend it, but it could have been voted in the nda in the defense law on the 24th and year, you could easily vote lendles as a tool. now the same atakams missiles could cost nothing written off, they could cost 1 dollar, well conditionally, and then it would be a solution for bargaining with congress, if they didn't do it, well i really hope it is... so they made a bet, they did on the package that joseph biden saw tools to squeeze this package, so we

in ukraine will expect good surprises from washington in january. did i understand correctly that your prediction is that there is still new aid, or rather, that the package that is trying to be passed through congress will be passed in january, because the legislators in washington are actually returning from vacation. i do not have a forecast, i have an appeal to the president of the united states, joseph biden, who has all the tools. for this, i understand that you will have to take risks, invest in your political capital. joseph biden has already done a lot as the president of the united states, as just a wise person over the years, he understands everything perfectly. i really hope that his political technologists don't outnumber his national security strategists. and he will make a decision. he has the leverage to get the package moving. i know this as a former us ambassador. i will not touch these levers now. yes, it will, it will be a decrease. to be honest, his rating somehow, for a while, maybe, but then i'm sure that

a shared smile will raise this rating again, as candidate for the presidency, so now the key to the decision is in the white house, well, we have actually been following the upheavals in the american congress since the fall, and we see that not only, let's say, skeptics of ukrainian aid, but also those who support it are such senators like mitch mcconnell, the republican senate minority leader, also advocated blocking. providing aid to ukraine until funding is put in place to protect the border with mexico. can you explain it, it's really meant for american legislators more about own interests, or is ukraine here as a bargaining chip? or any other factors? no, this is a pre-election fight, you know that already on january 15, kokusaiova, then at the end of newsher, prijmaries, and then on march 5, great tuesday, 878 voter votes are distributed, in fact, on march 5 in america it becomes clear to

the republicans who the candidate is, and the question is very seriously, will he be a candidate from the republic. donald trump, so i understand that he is not really asking about borders, it is about serious changes in migration policy, the problem exists, only this problem has existed for decades in the usa, and if it really is now, well, aid to ukraine is being used as a tool of internal political struggle, then this is from the point of view of american practice, well, a familiar story, to be honest, in ukraine it is a criticism. always, when they combined the positions of ukraine's external interests, national security in the ukrainian parliament, and internal interests, but this is a practice that has not been introduced today, i know it, they do it in congress when they compare the issues, so i really hope that the group of republicans, well what do they call the traditional republicans

, who are friends of ukraine, it's very conditional, because they, for example, they are actually friends of america, and minch mcconnell and ... everyone who supports us, they protect the national interests of the united states, so i'm sure that they should talk a little and not move to the position of a smaller group, which until recently was marginal, which raised the question of helping ukraine in this political process, so we count on both republicans and democrats, and i am sure they must understand that 90% going to the usa, thank you very much, on it's a pity, we're running out of time, valery chaly, expos, was with us. sol of ukraine in the usa. there are discounts on amicitron of 20% in pharmacies psylansky, pam and oskad. there are discounts on deflu, 20% in psyllanyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. greetings, this is espresso

, my name is khrystyna yatskiv and my colleagues and i continue to do a series of interviews with the most interesting speakers for you, at normal times, i would not be so sure that we would be able to hear them, at least my guest today is quite rare in particular in the ukrainian capital, and this is a great opportunity to meet with an officer of the third separate assault brigade with the call sign. beard, not going into detail, hello, congratulations, indeed, we are recording this interview right at the moment when the third separate assault brigade is not at the front, because you are now working, improving, re-staffing, and you will be back soon, maybe when the audience will see this interview, you will already be at work again

, most likely in the same way as the feeling of yourself in the conditions... i like kyiv, before christmas, i am not one of those people who rave about the fact that everyone should live badly since there is a war in our country, i want to have a chance to rest when i return home, or to some place that is assigned to me there with a task, i go to go somewhere to the cinema, to the theater, to a club, i don't know, for the boys, who will be younger. that's why i really like you, the military environment is so polar in this position, because, well, again, it's a very sensitive moment, it annoys someone, and it's completely understandable, someone is happy and says: oh, i understand what we stand for and in general, well, it's cool that we can

provide such a life at least in some part of our country, i think that the question here is precisely, well, there are two aspects for me, the first is social, that is, when a military man can afford something that an average citizen can afford, it is better, well, better, when his family is enough, yes, even when he returns home , everything is fine with him, in his psychological state, well, he is more motivated, he does not mind that , well, there, how do ordinary citizens live who do not take part in hostilities. at the expense of all kinds of youth organizations in which i was there, i have some survey that was acquired there when i was 14-17 years old, well, i

aggressive in the other direction, in the direction of the enemy, and not in the direction of its own citizens, and by the way, it has been almost two years of a large-scale invasion and under 10 years there... this is what characterizes ukrainian society now, someone says that we have begun to devour each other , instead of fighting the enemy, are you watching it? well , this is a classic of ukraine, we don’t even need the dog to blame us, we ourselves will argue with each other, we will blame each other internally, this is some kind of mentality story, the question is, this or that a remnant of a scoop, is it already acquired by us here, i'm talking about it. i thought, but there is such a thing, there is such a story , on the other hand, if we weren’t like that, wouldn’t we be russia then, well, no one quarrels with anyone there, everyone as a party of pu said yes, i

believe that this is that period, which, well, we will come to it, and it, well, will either stay with us or not, it is more about permissiveness on the internet, well, that is, for us it is new, that is, well, recently. there is no one there now, dear grandmother, go out, if she has access there, she can do and talk whatever he wants, and people started talking, i think that at some point they will just hope for it and it will fall off somewhere by itself, let this story fall off, the question is not to impose stupidity there during this time, until it, uh, i'm a little i will tell you about our today's hero, the beard is a man who comes from the crimea, from simferopol, and he is a man. which, as his compatriots told me, stood at the origins of azov in general, of the azov movement as such until 2017, but as they say,

azov themselves and quite often there are no former ones, so you still remain in this community, even if you represent or found other units there, i don't know, of different types and forces in our country's military. and the year 2023 and such a little fascination as ukrainian society with what should have happened in his opinion, maybe somewhere in the world, instead we are in this studio now, and what did the 23rd year become for you somehow disappointed, or in principle you did not build do you have any illusions? let 's first say a little about azov, we, that is , we must not get confused here... units, well, that is, when i left azov, then i, well, in my there remained some azov obds, yes, but i

was not in the unit, but what you are talking about is the azov family, well, that is, it always remains, but azov, the one that exists at the moment, these are people who passed completely his own way, and it is separate, well, it is not necessary, if, it is theirs, but we have our own unit, which also... has achievements and but the family is so it is more so social more honor here and there soul honor and with about what i was thinking about as this summing up the results of the 23rd year , and i believe that we are alive and we in this studio have already laid down some plans directly. victorious, there was no feeling that we were going to drive everyone out of the mask, we are military, we, we have a task, we

fulfilled it, the tasks that were set for a separate steering brigade were fulfilled 100% before us asked for this year, the question is that people are told that we were about to win. did anyone have their own vision of the results of the ukrainian counteroffensive, then there are two answers here: the first - come and see for yourself why it is not as you thought, oh, and the second - this, we need to put the country on military rail, what russia has done, if we really put the country on military rails, then we have every chance to win this war. well, look, in your opinion, doesn't your thesis about the need to put the country on military rails contradict what you and i started this conversation about,

kyiv on new year's eve. we started this conversation with whether or not i am angry with these people, that is, this is what it is now, that is, i am not saying that it should be this way, i am saying that it is now , and it does not cause aggression in me, no calls for some dinner there, god forbid, that's it, but i believe that it should be different, we should do it as much as possible, that is , not just serve, but every person in this country should do it every day. from day to day to do something for this victory, and to do it there is not there , choose for yourself yes, now, then, there, who wants to join the economic front, who wants to join some other front, who wants to join some other front, no, it should be state-owned program, the only powerful machine that will turn into death to the enemies and into our victory, ugh, and in the very troops now, well, that is, in 2023, when

it became clear that... we need to harness for a long time and we will need many people for this struggle, calls began to join the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces, in general, especially since you know your strengths, you can find suitable positions, suitable work, different specialists are needed in the armed forces, and so on and so forth. will we not sooner or later rest on the fact that we will have, relatively speaking, everyone there. uav operators or logisticians, and there will be no attack aircraft or something like that? well, that's it yes, i put the same thing in quotation marks, the system, first of all, a uav operator is a person who has undergone some kind of training, not everyone can do it, this is a person in whom, in whom money is invested, in which forces are invested, that is, well, it is not easy to recruit people , say, you will be an operator, yes, that is, a person prepares there for six months,

he studies, learns, well... for the war, there are not so many positions, we have human resources, the question is that it does not need to be lost, yes, that is why we are constantly working on medicine, that is, a person will not go into battle, simply knowing how to shoot, she will be able to do everything possible, and the senior brigade, as the senior chief, will fully provide for them. the safety of these guys, who will carry out direct offensive actions, if that happens , i know, it will be military rails, it will be right there, they will follow it, that is, without losing human resources, we will be able to do more, well, the third osh, when we speaking, now it seems to me that there is no person in this country who does not know about the existence of your brigade, at least, because it is very apt.

and well, as far as i'm concerned, information is accurate campaign, many representatives of various businesses support you, and we see it every time we just go to the supermarket, and how did you manage to achieve this, well, that is, to create a certain brand and encourage people to join you during the mobilization of recruitment, i understand that i have never there will be enough people willing to join you in principle. a lot, as far as i know, well, first of all, this is a seraph radio, well, that is , yes, again, we all, everyone writes on the internet some of these, and people see, ah, well, that we have a little in a different way, yes, that is, people they see in the fact that, as we are developing, as we were able to set up a complete unit in two years, here, someone was hanging out with us, who has friends, someone is also reading somewhere,

he is being mobilized, i want exactly someone in the third assault brigade our contingent there is exactly volunteers, and someone is looking for a place to go, and a person wants to, he monitors the internet and chooses where to go , and he stumbles upon us somewhere, oh, here i will go, and then it has already grown into, oh, like a brand, the commander, that’s also the manager is good, that's the job of the commander, the selection of his staff the frequency of people there who are responsible for some media component, it works, it works, we have been talking for a long time about the fact that the most important thing is our people, yes, and this is how we differ from our enemy, i understand that in combat conditions it happens - different, and it cannot be done without losses either, but for almost two years of a large-scale invasion.