to what the quarter once again issued, this, this is a very good signal, one of the signals, uh, because this, well, it is much larger than it was before, yes, that is, this is already a kind of talk of problems, and well, for me this is a certain signal that we, we are older, that we no longer like it, didn't the neighborhood have it, i forgot who owned it, it seems that the neighborhood had ebonite sticks, signor holodomor. ukraine is a prostitute there, who is looking for money somewhere, and a burning pine was burning, what about the burnt house of the head of the national bank gontarev, didn't this happen, didn't it, but the reaction was not to that, in fact, it seems to me that this is the difference, then there was outrage, yes, but it was not so large-scale, that is, because of the way the community reacts, it seems to me that we are growing, well, or at least we want to believe , yes, but... well, it seems, it seems that

there is progress, that is, already some things society stops arranging, and society is ready, well, to simply defend its dignity, because it is pathetic, uh, you know why i wonder what when, if you look, if you look at past issues, let's say quarter 95, it was sold out at the palace of ukraine, i understand, yes, you can go there. to see a lot of people's deputies of different convocations, there you can see the former president, the former prosecutor general there, and everyone liked it, and everyone found it very funny, yes to the people who are criticizing it now, that is, obviously there is really some kind of evil, i want you to ask about the new ukrainian stand-up culture, i don't know if you're watching it, i'm trying to monitor it. and see if it looks

more decolonized to you, firstly, and if it is does it look closer to russian or western american stand-up, let's say, well , without a doubt, this is a completely different story, i'm not a fan of stand-up, yes, but, well , i think that this is a movement in the right direction, it without a doubt something that works according to western models. unequivocally, there are several, several levels, in fact, which are why i like him, that is, you can disagree with some specific jokes, you can talk about some inaccuracies, one way or another, but there are several things, firstly, well, usually it is still significant a more intellectual thing than than a diesel show or a quarter, well, it's banal because when there...

you know, serhii bychkov jokes about postmodern khinkali, well, you should at least understand, if so, you should be a little more intellectually savvy. the second thing is that very often the right messages are sewn in there, here and there, yes, if you look at the same anton tymoshenko, others in the end, that is , there are a lot of right things sewn into... in this humor of zasha, or about ukrainization, yes, or about relations with the armed forces ukraine, oh god, forgive aristovych , but, that is, this humor is already being used as a tool to spread some, well , in my opinion, correct things, besides, well, i don’t see it, well, maybe i’m lucky, maybe it ’s somewhere, but here these vulgar... national

stereotypes, well, i don't see it there, and this is very important, that is, they can slip through something somewhere, but this is not the basis, but in these older generation of humorous shows, this is often the very basis, and almost the main feature, eh, that's why it seems to me that here it is stand-up is a qualitative step, a leap even forward compared to what we grew up on somewhere else, and i know that you often visit central europe. yes, in particular in the czech republic, but have you tried to compare us, let's say, if we take a segment of not very smart humor, yes, stupid humor, in other countries it is also there, yes, in i know it is in america, i know , that it is like that in europe too, let's say in central europe, have you tried to compare our humor below the plinth with their humor below the plinth, they. they

do they actually differ from our self-humiliation yes or no? well, humor below the plinth is really the same everywhere, right? the fact is that, well, for example, the czech republic, yes , they often laugh at themselves, they generally have a very, well, culture of laughter, they have a very developed, but so is american stand-up, but there they laugh so much, what, what , that we would just, even in our country, probably lose consciousness there, but there is a difference of context, yes, that is, there are things that, when you click on these some national-language the question in ukraine, well, it is completely different than in the same czech republic and. you can laugh at some inflections or differences in dialects there, no problem , yes, of course, when you watch czech stand-up there, if this stand-up takes place in prague, they will make fun of brno, if it takes place in bryno, they will laugh from prague, as soon as you can and

you can't, it's normal, but here's the difference of this particular context, because we're just coming out, we're just... becoming with this monolithic community, and when you pull out some such things that, well, throw in enmity , just throw in, this is a very stupid approach , this is a harmful approach, and this, in the conditions of war, it is, well , it is just on the verge of some kind of hostile activity, now i want to ask you about humor in times of disasters, i was in kyiv in 1986. and when the disaster occurred at the chernobyl nuclear power plant, and i remember that they said then that the ukrainians responded to the explosion in chernobyl with an explosion of humor, so i remember, there were a lot of anecdotes of various such humor, just a wave, a whole wave, and humor

during the war , is it possible, what, what examples we have humor in times of war and where are the red lines, i'm sure that humor is definitely needed because it, well it very often has some kind of therapeutic effect, the same stand-ups from time to time look at whether or not to ask something, but uh and that is, it's normal for ukrainians to joke, because you just have to somehow keep a healthy sense of humor, and if you look at everything that happens strictly with a serious face, well, you can actually go crazy, so humor is necessary, but... matter of fact in the fact that it is my deep conviction, and this applies not only humor, in the principle of cultural activity , especially when it goes to the general public, the main principle should be do no harm, that is , we must understand that eh is, that we live in

a community eh, well, a very, very sick community, yes, what is in a state of war, uh, where, where are these red lines. there's an awful lot, and that's okay, yes, i mean, we're fighting a war for survival, and thousands and thousands of people are traumatized in very different ways, uh, that should be the main principle when you 're, in a sense, a comedian who prepares some number, some product, you have to go around it from all sides and think whether it will hit someone too hard. yes, and this is exactly how it should be evaluated, actually, i have a personal problem with these and these humorous shows that we are talking about, that there is, well, a complete lack of understanding of any ethics and understanding of the context in which you create it this humor have

you read the comments on youtube under these sketches, where people do not understand, people say that what is this, it gives us? the opportunity not to go by kokukha, sorry, that gives you an opportunity, it absolutely does not humiliate us, and it's cool for us and that's all, and well , thousands of people write, support these actors, there is this, there is that, well, you know, always when people ask me about the history or about culture, what to do, i always have a disappointing, disappointing answer, only slow enlightenment, well, there are no revolutionary ways here, it's simple. you have to overcome it step by step, but, on the other hand, you see, we can talk about some theories, theories of colonialism, post-colonial traumas and so on further and the like, but when you turn it on, you turn on this new year's issue

of the quarter, and there to the tune of the falcons they sing about the shit of the patron, well, it's not that it's not... it's just disgusting and it's just in a vacuum, well , that's it , it's not funny, it's just that i think the problem is, if people... the falcon melody doesn't mean anything, yeah, if it's not her cultural code, yeah, then she'll never understand that person , for which it is a cultural code, yes, whether it is, or there, say, the holodomor is a sacred thing, with which one cannot think of simply saying senor holodomor, absolutely, and here, and here it seems to me, this is a problem that is very difficult to solve, because we have to accept the fact that in ukraine there are... several socio-cultural groups of people, they are naturally more

united under the missiles now , but one way or another , people are brought up in fact in different cultures, yes, in this sense, do you see the expediency that there should be some, whether the state can interfere, or someone can, let's put it bluntly, prohibit, not allow, censor, or as a state. behave, well you see, in principle, we are in a difficult situation, despite all the vicissitudes of democracy, and the classics rightly said that democracy has many shortcomings, but nothing better has yet been invented, and this is true, on the other hand , we are in a state of war, so we must understand that certain restrictions, they have the right to exist, i think that, well, culture, that is, to ban culture, any culture, it is in principle very not... a grateful thing, that is, it is unlikely to work, because more out there in the 21st century with all the digital tools.

i am convinced that the state should intervene at the moment when, well, we can really talk about, for example, inciting national or ethnic enmity, yes, that is, where this fine line of the criminal code already begins, and when, when... . we really see that these jokes can lead to direct tension between certain communities that make up the ukrainian people, so excuse me, i will now add that in the diesel show there is also a new year's scene where they say the phrase tatars nomadic people without passports, that is, this well, it shouldn’t be absolutely, there was a scene in them about how... actually the people in crimea, how they are preparing to meet the armed forces of ukraine, and they teach the ukrainian language there,

as if they were all traitors, and that, that’s it again well, about some kind of total lack of ethics, because when you sit on a sofa in kyiv and write this script while drinking beer, and you write about people who are under occupation, well, somewhere it just has to catch fire... this red light, the one that will tell you: well, stop, that, that is, it is very often, very often it is a question of ethics itself, it's just that these people understand that this is not possible, this is simply not possible, even if you think it's funny, you and i are talking now, i'm thinking now that we are with you, maybe it's like isolated cases when on television we say the word: colonialism or postcolonialism, in general in ukraine we were somehow very shy

about it, and we did not talk in this context about our cultural heritage, mental trauma there and so on, you wrote immediately after this scandal with this 95th quarter and new year's their their this not a skit, you actually wrote a post about it being a revelation, right? wrote colonialism, the inertia of colonialism , the inertia of colonialism, can we talk with you about why this is the inertia of colonialism, how it manifests itself in other cultural images, and whether it is necessary to talk to a mass audience at all, or not no no no no too complicated matters for people, i 'm sure yes, i know that there are people who do not agree with the colonized situation of ukraine over the centuries, but i i insist that, in particular, in the cultural

plane, well, we really were in a colonized situation, for this, well, these are very simply several key factors, the most typical thing and the simplest is russification, so planting the language of the conditional metropolis or regenam, that is, it was, well i don't know, those who don't know can read ivan dzyuba, and if, if it needs to be explained. century, this is all these stories about the reunification of ukraine with russia, about the fact that the history of ukraine. was actually erased by russian e-e history, and this is actually this one culture, yes culture that was within the socialist framework, but again and as vulgarized as possible, these are signs that we, er, were colonized, this is often not agreed with, because they say that the colonizer should bring culture, well, how about france or or britain, we had it

the other way around, okay, but that doesn't change the fact that thanks to military power, administrators. under pressure, foreign elements were planted on us, well , language, history, culture were actually planted , it was, and it is quite natural, that this is the inertia of colonization, it continues, it is not you can simply declare independence, but we changed our minds, because it happened during the time of independence, well, first of all, due to the difficult language situation, it passed... in my opinion, well, the majority did not understand until february 22nd the essence of our relations with russia, yes, because this myth about friendly peoples, about the brotherhood of peoples, it was simply pushed so deeply into the ukrainian consciousness that for many people february 22 became a revelation, although in fact, well, the friendship of peoples has never

was not, that is, a person who reads at least a little the history of the country, and this is this, this is this primitive culture, so that is, this... things that came into existence at the time of independence, to some extent took root, rather it was reinforced by moscow, took root in the ukrainian consciousness, and this is necessary, well, here it must be overcome, it seems to me that these are not difficult things in the sense of explanation, so, well , you understand that you are there, well, now kyiv is more ukrainian-speaking than ever, probably, but you understand that there are many russian speakers. well, we talked about it, we talked about the friendship of peoples, that's what i think there is no need to explain to anyone, they talked about this and that colonial culture, for example, about humor, and you see that, yes, there is something in it, i guess i know that i still often ask myself whether what is happening to us, this post-colonial syndrome and actually one of its manifestations, which

we talked about today, is it in the sense of humor, or is it a natural thing? is it, you are talking about evolution, but evolution is called such a cranky aunt who is in no hurry, she is slow, and now you see, this re-evolution under, it just accelerated, yes, with russian missiles, do you think it is natural that we have been advancing so slowly for 30 years, compared to other nations, post-colonial ones, what kind of situation are we in, i am afraid that we have about... then in we basically did not have an understanding of the meaning of culture in the broad sense of the word, so this is, unfortunately, something that has always been in moscow, but in moscow they always understood very well how it works, why language works, how the culture works, like , why do we need to rewrite history in our country, but it seems to me that in reality this still does not exist understanding, it is already manifesting somewhere, but

at the level of the state, in my opinion, this understanding is still not there, so yes... slowly, so, so, so everything is taking a long, long time, so it really is, the russian missiles over the whole of ukraine have accelerated , but comparing with , for example, with india, yes or with african countries, in india, when in the 47th year, yes, and, and we further see signs, yes, that they continue to overcome this colonial legacy, that is , in this sense, do you agree? that it is not really that long these 30 years that we lived, in general, so, well, that is , we must understand that if we want to find some starting point, although it is very conditional, yes, but if the starting point of russian colonialism, moscow colonialism, take the pereyaslav council, the year 1654, then you can

compare yes, so we are talking about 350 years of colonialism. and we have only just started to fight it for 30 years, i am sure that it can be done faster if more state was invested in it, if there were more resources in it, if it was some kind of, you know, the strategy of, er, this no, there are, there are some crazy enthusiasts who are trying to somehow explain it, spread it, engage in enlightenment, well, okay, we have to work, my last question is, do you think that... this is an irreversible process, because as we speak about these cultural codes and, in other words, scientists talk, neuroscientists talk about these neural. in which the fates of the new year and

olivier, young parents, a happy one and so, a happy family there and so on are connected with the irony, that is, we have purely biological ties, so to of this entire legacy of russian, soviet and russian masculinity, and is it in this sense that what is happening now, what we are going through, this decolonization is a rocket... or do you think this is irreversible history? well, you can’t be categorical here , but it seems to me that what i observe in a certain younger segment, and actually younger than me, a segment of culture, and this is again about such a stand-up, and for example, those people who are listened to, well , they don't have any of these people anymore of soviet post-soviet narratives, well, because it simply died for them, it is not their culture. in that sense, i remain optimistic, except, well, it's hard for me to imagine that after everything that russia

has done in 10 years, in the last two years, and what else, well, unfortunately, apparently russia will have time to do, i it's hard to imagine that we would return to this rut, some kind of friendship, brotherhood, and you know, and sit there... in the autumn evenings read pushkin's poems, because the trauma is too deep, and well , i believe that we are already old enough to to realize, well, if not now, then really, probably never. thank you for the conversation, radomir mokryk, historian, cultural expert, was a guest of his own names, i think it was an important conversation about how important it is for us to get rid of colonialism. the legacy of self-deprecation of such a destructive destructive humor of a low quality towards ourselves, how important it is for us to eradicate from ourselves the russian

, soviet cultural codes, not without looking into the mouths of russian intellectuals, actually to remember who we are, and who we are in the last a few years have seen how smart, powerful and cultured we are and take it to the... world, thank you for being with us, we will see you next week in the project own names, all the best, thank you, thank you, there are discounts on lactiale 10% in psaryznyk, pam and oschad pharmacies. see this week in the collaborators program. a living traitor, how the rashists protect the main seller of novaya

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see this week in the judicial control program with tetyana shustrova, bribes, treason and decisions against defense capability. judge doljko named the ministry of defense of ukraine. a private company. which of the judges stood out last year? cars are constantly changing on it. greetings, this is court control and i am tatiana shustrova. together with the team, i congratulate you on christmas and new year holidays. we believe in the victory of our armed forces, whose courage and resilience impresses the whole world. and thanks to which you and i followed the judicial reform

taking place in ukraine, and there are some. of the key requirements for our entry into the european of the union summarizing the results of the year, let 's remember those desperate people, representatives of the old system, who tried with all their might to disrupt important transformations for ukraine, and fortunately, they did not succeed. serhiy dolshko, judge of the zinkiv district court of the poltava region, in his judgment. called the ministry of defense and the cabinet of ministers private companies, and the laws on mobilization and martial law - copyrighted works. according to the case file , a resident of donetsk region who is conscripted and suitable for military service, received two summons for military service, from the first in january, and later in march of the 23rd year, he ignored both summons, although he was warned of criminal liability for evading the draft.

the judge before... shko acquitted him. the minister of themis justified his decision by the fact that the laws of ukraine and the decrees of the president on mobilization and martial law, which are called so-called in the verdict, are allegedly author's works. the so-called laws of ukraine, which are legitimized under the guise of laws, are copyrighted works, not have a constitutional basis, are not essentially laws, are not mandatory for implementation by the people, are offers from an entity that provides public administration services. these normative acts have the status of being applied, and are not legally valid legislation. in addition, judge doljko called the ministry of defense of ukraine a private company, referring to the fact that the department has an identification code of a legal entity. the cabinet of ministers also named a private company. the judge states

that the ukrainian government belongs. to a private foreign company, referring to foreign registers. also, the judge believes that territorial staffing centers do not have the right to staff the armed forces of ukraine, but can only offer to conclude an employment contract. at the same time, the judgment emphasizes that coercion into a labor contract is a form of slavery. however , judge serhiy dolushko surprises with his logic not for the first time. when making court decisions. in 2021, he justified the illegality of the introduction of quarantine in ukraine, and in 2018 acquitted the businessman arrested while handing over a bribe to the chief of the zinkiv police. within a year, he closed the case against the ex-head of the zinkivska district state administration, who filed a declaration late and fled from the police. at the end of april, the security service

of ukraine.