directly, with regard to the united states, of course, there are reasons to worry, but let's see how these pre-election races will be there, there are still , let's say, a large number of questions, whether mr. trump will be elected president, he has every chance, but he has and certain complications like that, and if not him, then who, if it's rondesan, that's one story, nicky gailey, much better for us, that's going to be a story. that is why we cannot know what will happen in november, but what we do know is that the aid that is being delayed so far from domestic political american reasons, it will be voted on, i admit that i was wrong and hoped that this issue would finally be resolved within january, unfortunately, let's say this, based on those comments of american politicians, first of all, the speaker of the house of representatives, there is no end. or

a compromise on the part of the biden administration , and that is why the republicans are adamant, they are not ready to vote yet, until there is a flea on the border, the southern border of the united states, that is why i would not say that everything is so bad, although in a philosophical sense ukraine is divided since 2014, because the russian federation illegally annexed crimea and at that time simply occupied it as a proxy force. part of the donetsk luhansk oblasts, now it has expanded its occupation a little more , but by and large the war has not ended, so until it ends, with the defeat of one of the parties or the impossibility of continuing the war for one reason or another, then it can be said that ukraine is divided anew or in some other way. so far, i do not see such a trend and i think that this is probably such a hyperbole for the sake of it attract attention, and i hope that in

washington they will change their failed strategy in the ukrainian direction, or rather, i would say in the russian direction, because they do not want a change of the regime there, they forbid ukraine, ukraine to strike with western weapons on russian territory, and by and large hold the false opinion that putin can be forced to negotiate through some small or painful victory for the russian federation, that is, it seems to me. that it is necessary to draw conclusions from last year and change the strategy, first of all political strategy regarding support for ukraine and what should happen with the putin regime and russia as a whole. thank you, mr. alexander , now let's go, you already started talking about support, yesterday i and igor eisenberg from the united states of america talked about supporting more of the united states of america, now let's talk about europe, you said that europe supports, but look, now i see some these are not divisions, but some such

misunderstandings that arise within the old continent between the leaders of the countries of the european union, in particular the the information that german chancellor olaf scholz is very angry with french president emmanuel macron, in particular, about the fact that he gives very little money to support ukraine, he is also angry with other leaders of the european union, well, this is the trend i am somewhat... worried, you are not, and why is it, on the contrary, very good that inside the old europe there is, let's say, a lot of pressure, there is pressure on others who do not understand that this war must be won by all of europe, not only ukraine , i think it's very good, and that it is very good that this happened with a representative of the social democratic party of germany, which since the late 60s preferred to be very soft

towards moscow at that time, well, and now moscow, that is, actually before a large-scale invasion. it seems to me that this is very positive, and the most important thing is that germany has absolutely all, all, let's say so, and moral and other rights to do this, since it is one of the three largest suppliers of aid and weapons, this is the first moment, the second moment, already such were the cases when the germans gave more than promised, of course, that... this is not enough for ukraine for us to win, but we must constantly remind that we are fighting the war that the entire nato bloc with the united states was preparing to fight during the cold war, and therefore how much would not be given to ukraine, this will not be enough to actually achieve the goal that is before us, and there must still be a certain awareness, above all of old europe, that... the best way is to solve your

strategic issues in the middle and in the long-term perspective, it is ukrainian victory, i.e. complete liberation of ukrainian territories. starting with the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol, it is very important, and it seems to me that the 24th year will be, if it is a year of strategic defense on land, then the most important and fiercest, shall we say, battles and actions will take place on the black sea will bring ukraine closer to our victory, so what, what i want to say is that the issue is not only in ukraine, the issue is not only that we destroy the aggressive potential of the russian federation. for years ahead and they will need it 5-10 years to recover, and by the way, there were some interesting analytical materials here, literally half a minute, okay, that is, in europe they understand that there can be a war not only against russia against ukraine, but also against a nato member, and

therefore they have to prepare is the first point, and secondly, we must remember china and other, let's say, countries of the axis of evil, and it is better to defeat russia as soon as possible. to direct other resources to contain china, otherwise the russian federation will support its senior partner, and this will be bad for everyone, that is, not only to europeans, americans, to the whole world. thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for being included in our live broadcast, thank you very much for your, as always, professional comments and answers to my questions, it was oleksandr khara, a diplomat, an expert at the center for defense strategies, but we all understand that our victory is coming to the front. and my colleague serhiy sgurets, director of the defense express agency, will now talk about the situation on the fronts. serhii, congratulations, you have a word. i congratulate you, yuriy, i congratulate our viewers. today we in our column, we will talk about the war, about the mobilization of technologies that should

neutralize the superiority of the russian army in numbers, and about what ukraine will do with the secret documentation on russian military developments that it has acquired. the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense, more on that in a moment. ukraine adapted to the mass assaults of the enemy and prevented russia from achieving its strategic goals in donetsk region and kharkiv region, russia's winter offensive failed. such an optimistic conclusion of the german publication bild is now being multiplied in various ways networks and already on ours. the armed forces manage to thwart almost all russian offensives for months and exact a huge blood and material tribute from russia for its futile offensive efforts, writes bild. however, in my opinion, it is unlikely that we can now speak of a complete halt to the enemy offensive,

because it is still ongoing. today, the number of enemy attacks was as many as 77, before that it was 30, then 60, and now, as we can see, it is again almost... 70 and 2/3 of the attacks again fell on the front line near avdiyivka and maryanka, in other directions as well it was not easy, and rather than after a certain time, a new wave of enemy attacks should be expected in the same directions: kupyansk, bakhmut, avdiyivka, marinka, and the south, because the enemy, in principle, is used to acting according to a scheme using, first of all, a significant number of personnel, this is a quite probable scenario, but he will hardly be unexpected for our armed... forces, the main thing is that there is enough ammunition, as our military says. and now we are joined by pavlo kishkar, he is a major of the armed forces of ukraine, deputy commander of the arterial division, people's deputy of the eighth convocation. sir paul, i congratulate you, glad to see and hear. congratulations,

mr. serhiy, congratulations to ukraine. i will not ask you about the front in your area, i would like to talk about other components related to how to fight. goloukomovich, valery zaluzhnyk. said that this year we should fight differently than in the 23rd, that is, at the expense, we should fight at the expense of quality and technology. you are familiar with many military developments that we have in the state, and you know the reality of the front, it is interesting how these two things are now combined, how negative and positive examples, you know where to go, based on what your experience says. in our reality, i would like to say from experience and work in the accelerator of the ministry of defense, we do not have a policy of cooperation between the ministry of defense and ukrainian arms manufacturers as such, although there are pleasant exceptions, in particular the acceptance into

service and the purchase already under the contract of installations that have a design name saber, of course, that... we expect dozens, hundreds, and maybe even thousands of such complexes, not necessarily sabers, there are other developments, and ukrainian manufacturers. are ready to help the armed forces of ukraine repel the enemy attack and return the lost territories, precisely thanks to the technologies. oleksiy skrypnyk, known to you and to me, a man who should have been the minister of defense, from whom i had the opportunity to learn a lot, said that the war of the future is a war of robots, that is, if ukraine sees that it lacks manpower , not enough. qualified military personnel, then contact ukrainian manufacturers, they

will help you, you can see now along with how it is the saber that works, and we have a sufficient number of such developments, including protected ones, in order not only to deter, but also to be able to counterattack flexibly, confidently with minimal losses in personnel, and... this offer is from a business, from of ukrainian manufacturers, it is, well, open until now, but what mr. zaluzhnyi talked about, for sure, that we need to talk about the general change of the defense system, this is about the fact that we, at the moment, we are still fighting in peacetime , we have a battalion commander or company commander, you have as much paper work as... during peacetime, we have periods

of ammunition shortage, we do not have a shortage of staff, we have such a technological shortage, yes, in particular, for unmanned aerial vehicles, and this these changes, they can be considered only in a complex, and changes to the law on mobilization, and technological changes, and changes in principle. work of the ministry itself and the general staff, i insisted and insist that the release of people, including, is to stop creating or newly creating a bunch of additional divisions, analytical centers, including in the general staff and in the office of the commander-in-chief, this also applies to us, but the structures themselves also need interaction. before radical changes, each process must have a surname, a first name and

a patronymic, that is, if we are talking about the introduction of the saber system, this process must have a surname, a patronymic, it must not only put it into service, not only to spend on the states, because there are no staff units in the subdivisions yet, and it should be very fast, it should be days, preferably hours, he must then... analyze the successful use of such systems on the battlefield, suggest what needs to be modernized, where the system needs to be improved for the developer, and with the new batch to get more advanced weapons for the ukrainian troops, therefore this systemic change, which zaluzhnist talked about, it needed this year, we will not have more people, the potential of the enemy is much greater, they do not regret it. of our human resource, so we can only respond with the technology of our army,

using the latest technologies, with using unmanned aerial vehicles, using robotic systems , the war of the future is a war of robots , so let's be ready for it, well then even i think that it is not so much a war of the future, our war is already largely a war of robots that have, conditionally in other words, to take on... the burden of an infantryman and an artilleryman, in order to actually free a person from the most risky operations. we understand all this, we understand that now the ministry of statistics and the ministry of defense are making good statements there, the question arises where, what wheels it is not enough for this mechanism to really work, because as i often say, we have this, that, and that, but when we talk about the real thing, talk with soldiers, with officers, then we understand that this there is none, and here is how to reduce this... distance, where are the driving forces, where are they lacking, or where should they

be directed, so that there is an understanding that this is a development, tomorrow it is on the battlefield, the day after tomorrow it is scaled, refined and again the troops have returned, what we lack, according to your opinion, i think that quality there is a lack of people, but if it is not so severe , then there is work already done in the accelerator, and serhii vasylovich loboyk, in particular, as the head... coordinator, accelerator and efforts not only of the military, but also of business, has proven solutions, now in we have a hunger at the front for... low-power rap, i think that the solutions that have already been worked out by ukrainian manufacturers, they deserve that the days pass from the moment we talked with you on this air until it will be a new contract was signed, i said and i say that if the system reacts badly, it does not shrink during the war, and this is a matter of

life, does not reduce the terms of these proceedings, these applications, does not reduce. consideration of the signing of contracts, then the rules must be changed , and this can be done by both the minister and valery zaluzhnyi, with their own efforts, and it is their responsibility to do this, every day, what they think about, to tighten, that is, to fire specific people who interfere with this process , to shorten the terms of consideration of documents, they are responsible for the fact that we are losing both manufacturability and people, it is them. is the direct responsibility of the minister of defense and valery zaluzhnyi, therefore we draw attention to the fact that the accelerator has prepared everything on its part, is ready to consider these proposals, has direct contacts with manufacturers who have already come to field tests, and is ready to cooperate in order for this tomorrow has already become mass production and went to the battlefield. to specifically answer your

question, the people sitting in the offices now must pass. education or a test at the front, if they don't have this test, they have nothing to do there, they don't feel this need, that's why my advice, a tip, i don't know, take it as you want, i'm a small officer, but my advice is that there should be people who are interested, who see this relationship between the signing of the treaty and the changes at the front, and this relationship exists, and delays in the consideration of certain documents also have an impact. directly to the preservation of human lives, if a person has this relationship, believe me, he will spend the day and night, sleep on a folding bed in the office and demand from people, like boris kostenko, for example, it is often dense does, the performance of those tasks that contribute to what appears in the kashmki units

are equipped correctly, where the workplaces are correct, where trained, educated people already work at these... workplaces, therefore it is necessary to demand from your subordinates that they the relationship between the front and technology was and each one was responsible for the quick signing of contracts, because the same saber needs a contract already for the 24th year, already, and it is not there yet, we are still thinking about what we we are thinking about the fact that we will not be in the 24th to use these complexes, there is a tandem 2, where there is a contract, there is no dogo. say , that is, it needs such, you know, maybe i'm from nothing , from the fact that i don't know how else to press for it to happen, er, between funerals i tell you that in order to there were fewer of these funerals, sign contracts faster, contact directly with the manufacturers of ukrainian weapons, and you can

improve the situation at the front in a short period of time. and mr. pavle, there is one last question. and whether the unit teams themselves can be the initiator of these changes, contacting manufacturers , working out solutions, and then putting these working solutions in front of senior management, guys, implement, scale, does this model work, does it work in our army, well, where is yury, for sure, it can’t be like that, in our there is a sole proprietorship, so it is, but the manufacturers themselves provide units for free usually. types of weapons or technologies so that they can be used in certain conditions where this use is possible , check the quality of either a drone, or a turret, or some kind of robot, or a robotic system that demines, demines, such things exist, such interaction is horizontal

, it exists, we are talking about the problems of a vertically integrated system when it comes to... the decision-making system, and this system is often a heavily screwed-up soviet system for reviewing documents, from the consideration of those technologies that have already been tested by the military, often the documents that are submitted for consideration, before the signing of contracts, they already exist and work at the front, that's the point, and there can be no delay here, i say once again that the system itself is too big, it exists in peacetime. this cannot be so, the system must be compressed, accordingly, fewer processes, fewer people in this process, fewer signatures, fewer approvals, and in this way we will achieve something. success and acceleration, it is desirable that certain technologies are ahead of the russians, we were, if you understand what i mean, at a certain

stage ahead of unmanned aerial vehicles, now the russians are catching up, unfortunately, we are often densely ahead of them, the possibility of involving iranian and korean missiles and technologies, including unmanned ones aircraft, help them, so why don't we help ourselves. in where we are strong, in those developers who are ready to help us, thereby creating jobs and strengthening the economy, is this relationship not clear and not visible, i don't know, i would reduce it to nothing at all to two signatures these things, and ready to take on, in particular, responsibility for how it will work on the battlefield, how it will be generalized, how we will modernize going forward. such robotic technologies, or there will certainly be automated systems of commanding troops, be it living robots, yes, which will use this or that operation on

the battlefield instead of people, under the leadership . mr. pavle, thank you very much for the inclusion, for the explanation, for these categorical statements, because we understand that otherwise we will simply get bogged down with our technologies in the labyrinths of bureaucracy and irresponsibility, this is what... we are most at risk of such an impression, i tell you , yes, sergey, i thank you for the broadcast, really, i think that from this our i agree with you, it will take a day or two before concrete decisions are made, and we will see concrete changes. i really hope so. i will remind our viewers that it was pavlo kishkar, major of the armed forces of ukraine, deputy commander of the art division, people's deputy of the eighth convocation. and then we will move on to another topic, about struggle, intelligence and technology. it became known that thanks to a successful operation, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense gained access to a significant amount of secret technological

documentation of our enemy, it is about 100 gb of documents, which relate to a number of serial and prospective developments of the enemy in the field of unmanned aviation in the field of radio-electronic reconnaissance of military equipment, we are talking about the documentation that was obtained. in a special technology center from a russian defense enterprise , which is located in st. petersburg, there we are talking about reb sviatkau's means, and layer 3, and orland 10th, that is, in fact, about the entire range of those samples that the enemy is currently using at the front. and now anton mikhnenko is joining us, he is our military man expert who works closely with defense express as well as our own. companies engaged in military high-tech, mr. anton , i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, in return, i wanted to ask you,

what is the significance of this whole story of obtaining a significant amount of enemy documentation, how can ukraine use this and our partners, on the one hand, and on the other hand, whether it was necessary to disclose it at all. that we became the owners of so many works of the russian federation there, look, look, in fact, this is an interesting question, we must understand that any manufacturer tries to minimize the leakage of information, the external space, so that competitors do not know within the country about the possibilities, on the one hand, on the other hand, that a potential opponent also did not know about the existence of such opportunities, receiving information about our intelligence. in relation to the special technological center in st. petersburg, which deals, in particular , for a sufficiently long period of time with the issues of creating means of radio-electronic intelligence in

first of all, this is quite a large and significantly important step, why would i say, the first moment we will understand at what technological level the russian federation is at the moment, what promising projects are being implemented, why the stc is such an important center, why special attention is paid to it, you understand, there is the concept... as adoption of a sample for service, that is, means of radio-electronic reconnaissance and air ground-based based, which are manufactured by stc, they are adopted for service by the armed forces of the russian federation, they are mass-produced, and they are mass -produced, they are in service with a large part of the armed forces that are in the russian federation, and it is used, relatively speaking, as the same camouflage or something else that is usually worn by servicemen in the armed forces, so it is very it is important, we have to understand at what technological level they are and what... is really adopted into service is mass-produced, the second point, we can, including due to the involvement of the industrial and industrial complex of ukraine in this information,

again, to do a certain reverse of technologies, that is, we can in principle understand what technological solutions are implemented, how these technological solutions can be implemented directly in our developments, understand how these solutions can be countered, that is, we can understand in which frequency range they work means of electronic intelligence, where they have weak points, to understand which technological points in time, in particular, let's say, what is possible there, possible boards are used there to understand what is possible. tell our partners so that they were able to detect the leakage of these fees from abroad, entering the territory of the russian federation. the next point is also, again important, this is a continuation of the second, this is again, this is something that we will share with our partners, i am convinced that our outfit will actively cooperate with our partners, and it will emphasize , look, this is where russia is at such a technological level, also help us, please, to create new technological

samples, the summit... also orient yourself where where russia is located and, including, create those models that can then help us and you, our partners, i mean to counter russian activity. it is important, this is a very important point, regarding the question of whether it is appropriate to announce it now, i think, in principle, there are two points in intelligence, the first point, if it is already made public, then the maximum has already been extracted from it all. the second point, again, this is the borderline, as they say, if this information is distributed, we try, we try to show our adversary that we know everything about you, and we force such an adversary to take appropriate measures so that they operate in a different mode, again, this is a certain time, again, this is the reaction of the russian federation and defense enterprises to distract them from prejudging our possible moves and our possible actions, it's so interesting, there are enough lines when to spread information, when not to spread information, but i think that in our intelligence there are competent people who

know when ... it was worth spreading, if it became a tool of publicity, then certain conclusions have already been drawn. and mr. anton , we literally have two minutes, i would like you to tell us a little bit about where the ukrainian reb is moving, the means of electronic warfare, because literally a number of foreign publications this week came out with publications about the reb, that russia has certain advantages there , and of course for this the question arises, what are we doing, what... are we creating such a cool thing, in order to level this probable advantage of the enemy? i will emphasize again, to a certain extent, i agree with our partners and foreign ones publications that emphasize that the enemy has a large arsenal , great capabilities, they are mass-produced, and in this context they really have a certain victory, as i have already emphasized this on every broadcast, and we must react accordingly, and in this context in we have several key points, we have...

the public sector, which works according to its own laws, let's say this, i have not yet seen such really serious progressive decisions by the public sector in the context of creating complexes of electronic struggle, nevertheless, this is compensated by the presence of, let's say, a serious private sector, here in this segment we have a powerful private sector, there are enterprises in ukraine that manufacture, we know the companies, as we saw them at exhibitions, i will not name them, which , in principle, have good achievements in the creation of these electronic warfare complexes, of course, after the 14th year, these private companies, which have a good experience, they adjusted to the realities that existed in the interval from the 14th to the 22nd year. now the realities are more powerful and seriously, the enemy is showing that he is adapting, and believe me, our manufacturers, who we have known since 14, they are also adapting and trying to improve the samples that we have, by expanding the frequency range, by

increasing the daily power signal. which appear due to new technological solutions that are implemented. and another key direction is that there is such a thing as volunteers. there is the concept of initiative development, there are state initiatives, such as bryvan, in particular, the accelerator, which focus precisely on the fact that young companies, startups appear and implement new solutions, and against this background a large number of various private small companies appear, which , among other things, deal with this issue of creating reps, underground... and it continues to rise, the key is still the next direction, again, i will try to say quickly, these are our partners, who definitely help us in the supply of false electronic beard complexes, believe me, we will have to work in this direction, we do not see all of this in reality, because we are a little behind from what the enemy has, but i think that soon the situation will at least level out, mr. anton, thank you very much for...