of course , it must be scaled up, and the funding must be withdrawn. in the fall, it was 5% of all funding projects for ukrainian weapons and ukrainian technologies. i think that this is a little too much, it must be increased somewhere so that it is possible to create both trench rap and electronic warfare systems, i will take a break now. , because, relatively speaking, now what is important is... after these missile attacks on yemen , there is actually a coalition of 12 countries that launched a missile attack on the enemy with the clearly defined goal of destroying the enemy's military facilities there and minimizing the impact there of this group, there is security in the red sea and another parallel is the russian federation . 50 countries that support us in the fight against the russian federation are also a coalition, and the question will arise then of a clear understanding of the goals

of this coalition, because in fact until now there were all these fluctuations, so that russia does not win there, ukraine does not lose, is this a sufficient goal for the potential of the coalition to really be concentrated on the scale of aid to ukraine that we really need, or is there not a certain gap regarding not of the very clearly defined goals of the coalition and... our needs and that this story differs from the story of a short- term point-blank strike on the houthis, i absolutely absolutely agree, because let's remember what winston churchill once said about germany and japan, he said that we would to consider as a victory the complete destruction of the potential of nazi germany and... japan, ah, now

no country in the world, or coalition, can say that it wants the destruction, the complete destruction of the potential, of modern russia, but, but, let's at least then look at the fact that the liberation of the occupied territories of ukraine and the organization of opposition and containment of russia are considered a victory. this is also not there yet, therefore, that is why i believe that the coalition does not exist yet, so far only its contours exist, the contours of the countries, the contours of the coalition from the group of countries that provide sporadic assistance, who thinks, for example, first germany there did not consider it an opportunity to provide powerful aid there, now, on the contrary, it is increasing it in the face of, shall we say, the challenge that the united states... can reduce aid, and

germany, for example, in the 24th year doubled from 4 billion to 8 billion euros, or, let's say, japan very powerfully increased its aid to 4.5 billion dollars, and including it will support ukraine's anti-drone capabilities, and previously japan in general to at the end of the 22nd year , she did not participate in any such projects at all, therefore, but this... this is not a coalition, a coalition is when ukraine would receive all the weapons it needs to liberate the occupied territories, including missiles with a range of 400 -500 km, we need, well, at least 500 units of such missiles, if you count together, say, ground-to-ground and tactical level missiles, and count the missiles, cruise missiles that we could... get not only

from france and germany, but, excuse me, from france and great britain , but also from germany, taurus missiles, yes, the infamous ones, which we cannot convince berlin to hand over to us, well, and of course, this is air support, these are planes and helicopters, these are also modern drones, and maybe even modern ones , anti-aircraft systems, by the way. when we if we are talking about anti-aircraft systems, then one of the points of our conclusion of the conclusions about the five challenges is precisely the development of modern technologies, including at the expense of military-technical cooperation, here i want, i cannot but mention such an example here, which is extremely revealing, well, it is possible that rheinmetall is coming to us, yes to the market, but rheinmetall wants to start with us to produce the old

fuchs combat vehicle and only then move on to a new combat tank at some stage, at some point later it can move to, say, production of some anti-aircraft systems, such as skynet, while , look, hungary, which is, well, a de facto collaborator within the eu, hungary with rheinmetall during the year 23, in the fall of the year 23, concluded two huge agreements, within the framework of which, and hungary in general there is almost no defense industry, but within the framework of which there will be only just. let's think about it , a new battle tank and a joint means of air defense will be produced jointly with the germans on the basis of, as i understand it, skynex, or even more new updated systems, which rain

metal presented at exhibitions in the 23rd year. now the same story is the united states, which in india is developing a powerful production of stryker machines, stryker combat machines, so part of this production is the creation on the basis of the striker machine of a super-powerful and ultra-modern complex of the army's air defense complex, which will contain both the rebov complex and the complex laser defense against drones. so we see that even on defense, even on defense, even with what we got. the latest systems about, patriot and sampt, here there is, well, a certain lack of elaboration, because i named now precisely the army complexes, that is, the complexes that will protect our troops on the battlefield, not about peaceful cities, i am talking now, but about

the advancement of the ukrainian army, and about that we need to convince our partners that we should start... not with what can be done, but with what we need in the first place, these ppo complexes. i am not talking about the fact that in september of the 23rd year, the united states armed itself with an army anti-drone system with a laser system, and we would also do not mind having such complexes, yes, they have armed only one battalion so far, it is on... a newer complex, but at least within the framework of, say, testing such weapons, or within the framework of the joint promotion of laser anti-drone programs, because such joint actions the united states is leading with the british, and

on the same september 23rd, britain simultaneously tested a laser anti-drone system, and here i am, exactly what we need to do... a hyper-leap in the field of creating the use of the latest technology in war, that's it is the biggest, so to speak, our opportunities, the biggest, the biggest challenge for the future, when we talk about challenges, i would still like to return to your work to convey these five challenges to our viewers, what areas are we talking about, what... is the meaning of each area, and then we may talk about some areas in more detail, taking into account the needs and opportunities of ukraine and our partners, so five areas, five challenges , which is about, well , let me list them first, yes, and then we will work with them

as we can, well, the first is the possibility of western aid, i.e. either maintaining it or increasing it, we want it and this is a challenge, i.e. reducing it is a certain challenge, the challenge is the ability of ukrainian society to mobilize, that is, to replenish the army with people, new boys and girls, who will be able to help those who are currently defending the country on the battlefield, the third challenge is, strictly speaking, the possibilities of military-technical cooperation with foreign countries. and the creation of the newest ones such weapons systems, the fourth challenge is , strictly speaking, the mobilization of the domestic defense-industrial complex and the transfer of the center of gravity to the domestic defense industry, so that we

produce weapons and cover at least 30% of the army's needs on our own, and finally, the fourth challenge is the latest technologies, this what i just told you. knew that we need to make a hyperjump and go to, if it is about anti-aircraft defense, then it is the use of laser systems, if it is about damage, then the use of electromagnetic weapons was developed by us. to of a large-scale invasion, electromagnetic weapons, well, of course, weapons for this are weapons based on new physical principles, together with rebov's, let's say, modern systems, these five challenges are key for us for the 24th year, while five this challenge, it is, so to speak , directed into the future to ensure a successful confrontation with the enemy russia. then, when the war starts, so to speak, or it will be in this form, when ukraine

clears its territory of the enemy at a level, well, at some level, at which we can, or it will be frozen, it is also impossible , it cannot be rejected, because we are now critically dependent on western partners, and in the end, the government will be forced and ukrainian society will be forced to accept the position that will be dictated, because , therefore that, in fact, we cannot now provide a completely complete confrontation with the enemy by our own forces, therefore the 24th year is becoming a key year for us in the competition of technologies and logistics and capabilities. our society survive it, let's if we

we can go to i really have a question, in fact there are five directions, yes, that is , three of them relate to mobilization in one form or another, because it is the mobilization of people, the mobilization of industry, the mobilization of science, these are actually these three directions , which are related to ukraine, and the two directions are actually cooperation, interaction, guarantee. with this is an international vector, that is, in fact, two components of international, three actually ukrainian mobilization in various manifestations, which, how would you arrange these weighting coefficients, which with relatively speaking, they are certainly not all equal in terms of priorities, which is of the greatest importance for, relatively speaking, the construction of our defense system, for development, which factors are here, which are secondary, which are primary, so how can these five directions be would be distributed? by weight categories, yes , i, i understand that this is an extremely important point,

if we were to say in general, in general, and if such a war and the danger of a new offensive were not now being waged, i would of course say that the most important, this is the third challenge they are actually placed according to their hierarchical weight, and the third challenge is the ability to mobilize their own defense-industrial complex. complex, why, because then we will not be so dependent on, for example, missile topics, we can provide more than 90%, and now we can also provide drone topics, well, more than 50, because there are components, microelectronics and the like, what, but everything that is more than 50 and is gathered in ukraine, it is already ukrainian, and there cannot even be any doubt, uh, because, well, very few countries in the world today can, well

can achieve a situation when they will fully provide for themselves, i put the ukrainian defense industry in the first place, in the first place in this form, in the general form, because of the experience. other countries , well, for example, turkey did not have four , four decades ago, it did not have any industry at all, but now, i mean the defense industry, but today, on the very day when the houthis were attacked, turkey announced the completion of the tests of two air missiles - air, the latest missiles, i think that she deliberately did it today. eh, to demonstrate that it is independent in the sense of weapons, although in fact it depends

on many programs from the united states of america, there are programs of airplanes, helicopters and so on, but here are drones and certain missiles, it is able to produce independently and is able to present them independently , to supply weapons to the army, but let's go back to... the weight to the weight of these, let's say categories, to the weight directly in these weapons, and... and these items, we determined the first by weight aid, and certainly american aid, as of the end of the 23rd year, it accounted for about 45% of all aid from all western, and not only western, all partners, so 45% will not be able to be covered by europe

together with japan, with the south. korea , with australia, which are also helping us a little bit, and so we are looking at how the prospects, the prospects today, well, they are, i would say, difficult, we hope that in the 24th year we will get such and such 61 billion dollars, or at least a share of this planned aid, but i am not sure that the situation will not change as the presidential election approaches, of course, if trump is neutralized, now 44% are ready to vote for trump, but trump, his position is wavering when the pro-ukrainian candidate, nikki haley, gradually is gaining points and opportunities, and of course we really

hope for it, and by the way, we also hope that the republicans of the congress in... have already announced their program to win ukraine, and ukraine, and there are three powerful points, one of which is to provide the weapon that is needed, the second is this take russian assets and use them to restore ukraine, and the third is to strengthen sanctions against russia, and actually speaking, this is a very powerful program if it will work, because it is not clear, for now... the situation is not completely clear, it will clearer, more powerful, if indeed nikki haley is going to be the first number one from the republicans, i have to interrupt you a little now, we will now move to the advertising information block and then we will talk about how our defense industry, in order

to achieve some noticeable and qualitative changes in the defense industry itself and for the foundation this year. of our armed forces, about this after the advertising and information block. there are 10% discounts on zzilor at podorozhnyk vam and oschad pharmacies. let's continue our program about war and weapons. my interlocutor, my colleague, is valentyn badrak, director of the army, conversion and disarmament research center. military analyst and writer, and mr. valentine, i would like us to continue to focus primarily on what we can actually do in one year, because in fact, when we talk about missile projects, there are drone projects, rebi directions, munitions field, uh, yes, it requires such concentration, and maybe

you can make some progress here, but all technological things, they usually stretch in time, yes oh... what do we have, well, we are guaranteed to achieve from our power structures, from our industry or have, and what can be, let's say, well, a task of the second order? well, to go to some numbers and some very specific things, we we must indicate what the conditions for this should be: the first condition is physical protection of enterprises, decentralization of production, i will not, we all... well, to a certain extent, yes, we know what happened on december 29 and january 2, and we know certain consequences this, and this should be a certain lesson for us in two ways: one, one is the physical protection of enterprises, it is a lot to hide underground or disperse, it has already been partially done, but as we can see

not completely, and this is a problem, strictly speaking, administration. industry, and the second is this prevent the leakage of data , which is why the actual attack on the defense and military enterprises, actually on the 29th and the second, yes, for this you need to drastically reduce the number of people who can have access to information, and here i cannot help but mention that the missile enterprises, all , absolutely all of them, flagships, yes, not adjacent, but flagships, there are four of them, they turned to the authorities in the summer with a request to help and, in particular , to get rid of pressure from dasu, the state audit office. services of ukraine, but until november, neither the government, nor the president's office, nor the security service could help with this

enterprises, and that is why they were attacked, because there was a leak, a leak of information, certain, including from this das there from other structures, so these things must be ensured so that this does not happen, and that the reaction of the authorities to protect the enterprises is instantaneous , and not during... let's say, nothing was done for almost six months, this is during, well, such a war, yes, when it is deployed, and now to the numbers, what is the potential, if you actually direct all efforts, all possible efforts , resource, and willpower to ensure, well at least a huge number of drones can be provided, at least so that they partially, of course, ... perform the functions of artillery and allow to hold out for a certain time, that's the only way we can consider it. we can consider the possibility of hitting

enterprises and airfields of enemy control points, including not only in the occupied territories , including in the territory of russia, to transfer our weapons, our drones, and 10... thousand medium-range drones and more than a thousand drones are planned with a range of 1000 km, that's enough a good, good arsenal for constantly tickling the nerves, let's say to the enemy in their logistics centers and control points and also at the enterprises of the defense industry, and finally, the most important thing is the missile program, well, as far as it is possible to advance. missile program, it is difficult for me to say now, because i do not know the progress of this program, and maybe this one is good, because i do not know the details,

but the experience is actually ukrainian and the experience of other countries, well, let's say, the neptune missile complex, a missile was launched program with of this complex only at the beginning of the 16th year, yes, already in the 20th year it was adopted... in the summer, 3.5 years in fact a powerful missile complex was made, which means that its modification can be much faster, and we believe that it has long since begun since may of the 22nd, a new missile program has begun, in fact, so we can predict that by the end of the 24th, or within the 24th, we will already have several hundred of the latest missiles that can be used. like earth-to-earth missiles, i also hope that there will be air-to-ground missile complexes, cruise

missiles, air-to-ground, besides , i personally have high hopes for joint work with turkey, that it will be possible to use akinshi, the latest drone that can carry a cruise missile with a range of 250 km, this is... much more a cheaper drone than an american one, but quite a powerful weapon, and things like that, well of course, i would generally say radical things, let's say a few days ago, pakistan's new missile was tested, yes, quite a powerful missile, and we could would expect to buy through third parties countries, of course, not direct import. state, and through third countries to buy such missiles and everything else like this, by the way, well, russia does it directly from iran and from north korea,

but for us the situation is a little more complicated, but it is not impossible, it is not impossible, it can be carried out in different ways, we know that there are three ways of getting weapons into ukraine, these are ukrainian weapons. this is military-technical cooperation and this is procurement, so there are different ways, but since we are focused now on our own defense complex, then we can really count on the number of drones that will allow us to actually hold the battlefield without the maximum load of artillery, because we know that now five times... russia has more artillery ammunition and can use more of it , but fpv drones can

perform certain functions, well, about 30-40% of the functions of artillery. this is one point, the second point is ammunition, it is quite possible to agree with general havrylyuk, who at the end of the 23rd year noted that ukraine it is quite possible to produce munitions in the so -called difference between, well, let's say a million american munitions, a million european munitions, and the difference is about 400. during the year, there were thousands of tank artillery ammunition produced either by ukrainian enterprises or together with partners, well , this is a difficult, but achievable goal, in principle an achievable goal, if, of course, we count not only 155 mm, but also soviet caliber, of course, here i am talking about all artillery and

tank ammunition. uh, well, uh, that's right these possibilities look like, and, of course, a separate challenge becomes the capabilities, the capabilities of the reb, because the reb, radio-electronic warfare is becoming now, well, so certain, one of the key points and overcoming it of radio-electronic warfare, the enemy’s radio-electronic means and, as a matter of fact , building up our means, well , these are approximately, this is approximately the view of the most important programs, of course, i am not talking here about the scaling of the production of self-propelled artillery installations, we even managed to reach the level of france, as the french have increased production from two to six caesars, and ukraine has now increased production from two to six bohdans, and this inspires hope as well as not only that. that

, well, that is, that different systems will be produced, by the way, these are systems that have never been produced in ukraine, i mean the anti-aircraft missile complexes that the ministry of defense wants to purchase now of ukrainian production, and self-propelled artillery installations, and these well, drones and light armored vehicles, this was never produced in ukraine, ukraine created about a dozen the newest weapons. weapons schools, these are really great prospects for the future. mr. valentin, thank you very much for including your explanations of what is happening with our defense, what are the risks, and the challenges for ukraine, they are laid out on the website of the center for the study of the army, conversion and disarmament, there will be another one, just after our broadcast one work related to the challenges associated with combat operations in the middle east. mr. valentin, thank you very much

for the inclusion, our... i remind you that it was valentin badrak, the center, the director of the center study of the army, conversion and disarmament, and the main conclusion after this conversation is that indeed we are entering the phase of a war of attrition with the enemy, but this does not mean that this is such a certain stalemate variant of combat operations. now we will have some time to strengthen our defense capabilities due to cooperation with partners, due to our own defense industry, but it is very important that actions in this direction are... there are more than words that describe these challenges. stay tuned to the espresso channel, next there will be many more interesting things. there are 15% discounts on strength detox at psyllium pam and oskad pharmacies. every day, every hour,

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