that the war with the russian federation is a consequence of our internal decisions regarding our government, no, not at all, if you look at it this way, i believe that the decision of the russian federation to destroy ukraine was made back in 2004-5, because the code of the orange revolution appeared there, he understands. just as russia understood that ukraine was leaving the influence of the russian federation, and when we found documents that were there in the east, in the south of ukraine, how the fsb worked there to train the same teachers who were in the east. of ukraine there in donbas, there

not only in donbass, there in kharkiv oblast, there in other oblasts , they held courses and seminars on the territory of the russian federation, and it started in 2004-5, so russia was preparing for it for quite a long time, it cannot be yes, when the revolution of dignity had already passed, when it started there and so on, i... i told my close relatives there and there that they would not do it, the russian federation would not stop at that there will be a full-scale invasion, no matter what we believe, no matter what they say, no matter what, russia is the 21st century, we can't go there, russia can't attack us, it's a violation of all international rights, i said what i said, wait a minute. if the state has been preparing

for this for 10 years, how come it can't, it can't postpone everything it was preparing, ugh, well , it's impossible, wait there, it will come there for two or three years, he says, you'll wait for it, well , no one listened, no one believed, well, he says , it is somewhere far away, and we are sitting here, everything will be fine, well, your path in the defense forces of ukraine, at what point is it? that actually and in which locations did it take place? well, how can i tell you, it is difficult to say that i am a military personnel, because i served there in the soviet union, then i served in the armed forces of ukraine, then i was discharged, well, i worked there as a civilian, lived a civilian life, had my own business there and that's why similar, they don’t have... nothing

so bad there, so to speak, but then in the 14th year, well, the armed forces of ukraine needed specialists, here in a certain direction, let’s say, and well, they invited me, well, how could i was not mobilized, i was reinstated in the army and left, then fell...

i retired, but i told my wife that i will never fight again, my wife probably reminds you of this often now, the truth is, well, no, she remembers, yes, she remembers, but what about when it was february 24, and when those explosions and so on started there, i was standing on the balcony, smoking and, how can i say, listening to it, well, i get up early, my wife is there later, but then i look, my wife came out, and she looked and said, well, what i say, well, you yourself know that, wife, my wife didn't say anything, and there i am, with me two grown-up sons, well, we already in the evening there, well, they already received weapons, ugh, on the 24th.

not all sons are still on this path with you, but one son serves in the presidential brigade, here is another son, well , sooner or later, the whole country will be restored, well, somehow, somehow, a little bit, but how is he doing? he is rushing, i will go with you, i will fight, i say wait, i say

, you have another task and come on, he is a chemist, a biologist, this is not a biolaboratory , understand? yes, biolaboratories, i'm sorry, now i'll watch our interview, including, he's also helping there now, they're telling there, when they use chemical munitions against us, we help them, yes, how to protect ourselves, how to ensure the safety of the soldiers there, he helps a lot there, well , that's the story. in the army or for the army in any case, we now have the opportunity to speak with an artillery specialist, artillerymen, gods of war, and they say that this war, well, practically supported this slogan 100 percent, what fell on the shoulders of the artillery, so

they say this is the main cargo, was it like that, or is it still like that now? well, now it is, well, it was, well, i'm explaining it for a reason. such a saying that artillery is the god of war, well, it was, but now, i would say so, it’s a war of drones and artillery, that’s what artillery, drones and infantry, and a single combat control complex, they are not separate, well, they are, well, separated it is impossible among themselves, uh, uh, because, the same commander of the calculation, even... he receives streams from air reconnaissance from individual guns, he sees his bursts of his shells, mines and he himself adjusts his fire, then there is no possibility

to adjust there a whole battery, there are two batteries there to adjust, but it works by itself independently, and in fact, well... there is such a position, the commander of the first fire platoon, aka the senior battery officer, who adjusts the artillery fire, now we can say that each platoon commander is a senior battery officer, that's what he does well, he makes calculations, he himself adjusts his fire there, but the mortar, but the guns, here... and he himself is responsible for the work and impression of the target, but he needs aerial reconnaissance to work with him, drones that give him a real picture online that he sees that

it is happening, and this is a very complicated process, but it is difficult, but... if the calculations are already done, and the intelligence is trained, they are online, he can ask there, well , less zoom, he will do it closer, he will look there to the right, to the left, there's something else there, you understand how it all works in a complex, it's the same infantry, it's the same, well , how can i say it? commander, company commander, platoon commander, he is in the same mode online, it doesn’t even matter, he can be in the dugout, there 300 m from the position, but if there is the possibility will put a generator, starlink

, put a laptop there, roughly speaking, he sees, he sees his positions, he sees the work of our artillery, he sees the movement of the enemy, he can see... i understood that now specifically you emphasize the need for artillery reconnaissance, its importance, a part of which is aerial reconnaissance, a part of which are all those mavics that our people very often gather for, i am trying to simplify now and actually translate it into the language of many of those people who... look at us and try to understand where to tell them, but an interesting feature, now

it's just a boom in use, boom in collections , boom in the production of fpv drones, first vision, fpv, first personal view, if i'm not mistaken, yes, why, some say it's because we may not have enough artillery capabilities, we may not have enough bull somewhere. there are not enough barrels and so on and so on , then i have a question, and then why do the russians bet on them, because they have more artillery than we do, they definitely bet no less on fpv, well, i’ll tell you, it’s well a little, well no there is, well, there is no reality, yes there is the presence of ammunition there or there and so on, it does not correspond to development. it can

be classified as a high-precision weapon, you know, how if the fpv drone pilot is well trained, then he can, well, literally crows launch the form.

ah, i don't know, everyone's brain just confuses reality with, if he's learned well, then it 's super easy, he can fly right inside there dugout, there inside there, i don't know, there house, there he can fly around the house there even fly inside the house until it finds its target and hits it, you understand, right?

but in practice it is possible to get ego,

no more. let's talk with you a little bit about the topic of recruiting in our country, i wish we all used this term instead of mobilization, because recruiting is a more effective story, in my opinion, but i am also aware that we are exclusively on we will not leave it, we need to talk about the mobilization of a large number of people so that our military leadership can... well , plan something in general in this war, leaving from human resources, about your battalion and how you are engaged in selection, is there any concept at all? selection of candidates, who do you need the most, how do you look for these people, if you are looking, is it easier to take those who are actually mobilized by the tsekp, teach everything, share experience and work with these people, well , you understand how we already had the experience of recruiting people there, there is tsk to get there, there is something else

there, well - well, i am not saying that the survey is so bad, but it constantly needs to be definitely improved, it is necessary to constantly adjust what we have mobilized, we mobilized such and such people there, and then we begin to filter them, well, depending on those.

we don't, well, we have zampatil, they are specialists , if a specialist, if a person, he worked there all his life, well, roughly there on a tractor there, you understand, well, why should i put him as a machine gunner, a machine gunner, if i put him as a mechanic, a driver, and he knows how to pull the caterpillar correctly there, and

how to look behind the engine, how is it still there , no

, there, well, i will put it there, i will rebuild it, tomorrow you will be an accountant there, yes, yes for sure, i will go as an accountant, well, this is the wrong approach, then let’s talk about ensuring and supporting the professional development of servicemen of your battalion, well, continuous development, well, probably, well, probably yes, first of all, i said that according to their

positions, well, according to their abilities we place

to a soldier and a sergeant, well, more precisely, yes, we put a soldier on the rank of sergeant, then submitted , made a submission, if he had a higher education, so, we assigned the primary rank of junior lieutenant, there are 21 of us, he is already a junior lieutenant, i will clarify a little, if i not i'm wrong, now the rules have changed a little, and now even without a military education , you can get one for, well, no, the mechanism is not clearly prescribed there, but there are some people who can be appointed to a position temporarily

performing positions, but they will assign the rank of we can't, but there are certain courses, we can send them to courses, here is l1 and here are leadership courses according to the nato standard. being in the army, that's what i 'm saying, now we're almost there, 20, i think 21 people, we assigned a junior

lieutenant, now there are five more people, well five we have sent sergeants for the assignment of junior lieutenants, and we are preparing 12 on the l1a courses, which will then be assigned again. everyone else, that is, the command , the battalion headquarters, has already started there, we are the same, if a person there knows how to manage the troops, then we also

start moving them, and in this way, well, as i said there, well, we need to get rid of the dinosaur, we need to put younger, more advanced, well, the only problem is that they need to be given theoretical academic ones. ugh, you understand how, well, we train them, we send them there and abroad, and here we are we constantly teach, teach and teach. a little bit about standards, but there is such an opinion that the strength of the ukrainian army, of all our defense forces, has become the fact that we are not completely standardized with nato, we have not completely moved away from soviet standards, which is very often the case. now the russian standards, and this very often, well, let's say this , uncoordinates our enemy, he does not understand what to expect from us, we are in such

a half-state of the standards of those who wanted to join nato, there is even now such a term, if i am not mistaken, even the community with that name well, you understand how i am and it is not bad , that is, even it seems to help us now, well, it really helps, but i will tell you that after the end of this war, nato... and other countries, they are now starting to change their standards, you see, adapting to our war, uh, that is, they are already, well, they are already online, but when i had platoon commanders in germany and they were trained by nato officers, and they showed them there from the phone there, how our drones are online 24. they fly here and there, as they show the situation, then nato officers said they don't have such a thing, they said it's impossible, they say, well

, we can go online even there... they said we're changing, well, i guess we're doing something new, so i'll say, there's nothing there, well how say, there is something in common with the soviet and nato structures, we have something new, we proceed from the opportunities we have, we proceed from the opportunities, how much equipment we have, how many personnel we have.

what would ukraine's victory in the war against the russian federation look like for you, because everyone sees it differently, well, i'll tell you this: victory. of ukraine in the russian federation, this is not, well, not a victory at the front, this is a victory in society, you understand, if society understands that this is their state, this is their country, that this is their armed forces, that we are one nation, then there will be victory , it is impossible to win

at the front if... society does not understand that we are one, we are one people, we are one people, which, well, well, we have the right to life, we have the right to our native language, we have the right to our culture, to our customs, we have the right to our own, well, i don't know, there are rivers, lakes, forests, this is ours, you see, and no one can take it away from us, and here... if society understands this, then we will win, huh, thank you for this conversation, extremely frank, edward vilinsky, commander of the 23rd separate battalion special assignment, spoke with us about the challenges in the modern russian-ukrainian war, about the peculiarities of work in this war, the work of an artilleryman, in particular in this war, my name is khrystyna yatskiv and my colleagues and i will not stop

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