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glory to isa, let's be careful, because today we are rushing, really rushing to lviv, to the lviv premiere, the actress rima zyubina, who modestly says on her facebook page, the author of digital content, it's okay, with the premiere right to us, rhyme is rushing , congratulations , congratulations, it's actually... it's not me, it's there facebook wrote that i'm some author of some digital some content, it's i still don't know how to live with it, it's good or bad and youtube star insta mom, no - no, no, god forbid, no, no, no, i don’t do this, no, and it was at the beginning of the great war that i started making streams, i never did this, but i did them every night, no, i don’t have one, i couldn’t go to instagram for a long time, i didn’t understand that... more likes than some picture,
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that is, i am really, really , well, because i have such an audience, such a contingent of people who are interested, i can really write something wrong, absolutely so, because i have to take pictures, here i am eating, here i am in the toilet in the mirror from, and here i pumped up my lips and now you sing, i can't stand such competition, there are already too many people there. that's what they're doing, so i'm just doing something else, me i made poetic e-streams, and then we came up with, i think, my god, what is it called, i called it there between the wails of sirens, sometimes i went straight out with a bath, because we started with a siren, i understood that i was setting an example for people, well and it was a bit like that in kyiv, and that's why i moved, i 'm just setting up this little flashlight of mine, that's all, that's all, the texts are poems by ukrainian authors and only about love here...
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it's fine, fine, that's it you know, i was recently in warsaw, we presented the book "war 2022" in polish there, and i had a creative meeting, and when i moderated a meeting with kazarrin, it was the first time that moderation was done as the author of the book by pasha kozararyn, one way or another, not as no, not as an author, he did not present. book , but it was simply his meeting with fans, readers, connoisseurs, and i moderated, because i understand that kazarin should be allowed to speak and say something, but he should be moderated, and so on meeting with him , a woman came up to me and said that your streams saved me then, and i have a person with whom i became friends, because she once wrote in a comment: it’s good that i catch you, from the occupied kherson region
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, i stood on a chair and caught the internet to get only to these streams, and i went out, i i don't know what it is, where some strength came from, but it not only saved people, it saved me too. every evening, somewhere around 12 o'clock at night, i went out and for an hour or so, what is a stream, some name appears there, and i start to react, then roman chaiko joined us, and now i will tell you the story of our acquaintances or our history, i tell about this person, and then. i'm already moving on, and that's why the 10 poems that i planned to read about the poet and tell about this poet, they were dragged somewhere to the end of this, but that's how it was, well, people said that it was like that for them support, psychotherapeutic even, so, actually, what i kind of think, how it would later be determined, will be determined that for actors like ryma zyubin, it was military, well, therapeutic.
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military activity maybe maybe ok i we will come back to it because the war changed us all, especially those who resist and think that the status quo will return immediately after the war, dreamers or idiots, we don't know what we will find out, whether they, who them, but let's go back to the fact that we are actually the next day, because as an illiterate me, zyubin's rhyme competently corrected me that the first 10 performances are called... i realized that this is a performance that i have not seen yet, and don't be stupid like me , subscribe to our channel, like and go to the show, because this is the worst thing to say about a play that you haven't seen yet, but i have already... watched short fragments from rehearsals
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and performances on the facebook page, read a little about it, and understand that it is a play, a personal love story during the holocaust. correct, if in one sentence , after, because it is the 49th year, after, after, but it can really be said, because these people remained in that traumatic experience, and even in the 49th year, herman, who already lives in america, he still always expects the possibility that the nazis will get to new york, that's all for him. so these are people who are traumatized and deeply traumatized, and i would say that this is what everyone expects of us, today i was even traveling on a train, and when you have such sleepless nights, you have some kind of subconsciousness telling you some such
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things, and there a little child started to scream very, very much , a boy of eight, i don't know what provoked him, but we left kyiv, there was an air alert and we were approaching. already before lviv, there was also an air alarm in kyiv, but there after us, the trains even there closed the station and did not let them in, from here it actually happened today, and i thought, well, there is our grandparents, who have the status of children of war, and i thought, will 15 years from now in ukraine have such a status for children of war, and those children who really have such injuries, which they suffered and which and... who will carry these injuries for the rest of their lives, and for some reason today i thought about these children of war, that this is a terrible, well, terrible term, wording, is it relevant in our country? well, i have a younger son, he is the same age as the war, that is , a classic child of the war, who was born in the 13th
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year, so far there has not been a peaceful year in his life was, right? let's see how it will be, but why show such a story, let's say , show the story of post-traumatic ... syndrome after one genocide to people living during another genocide, because muscovites have one task - the final solution to the ukrainian question and the destruction of ukrainians as such, why show another genocide, what does it give? and this is a novel by the nobel laureate yitzhak basheves singer, who moved from poland to america and actually wrote a lot about himself, and about his injuries, because he survived the second world war, and he had a difficult relationship with his child, with his grandchildren , who described that grandfather, he was all in
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creativity and was there all the time, and herman, according to our story, on the surface it looks like a love story , because that's what it's called in... this is maksyn maksym golenko's first performance as an artistic director and director. theater yes, i went with him in january to odesa, to the ukrainian music and drama theater named after vasyl vasylko. we worked for six months, here maksym mygolenko is repeatedly reassigned here to lviv, and he does it such an offer. we planned to stage this play in lviv, then move it to odesa. well, for now, this is only now, only in lviv, this beautiful production, i am so satisfied, as i realize the scale of this work, i probably had work of such a scale in the theater, maybe 10 years ago, you and i met for an interview
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in the evening before my premiere there is a difference in the young theater that i worked there then, and i also thought that either i will spend the evening in my hysteria and nerves from excitement, then i will go to roman chaika, and there we will have a seagull better, yes, yes, yes, and the cognac was so delicious then, but anyway i spilled my emotions, on the surface we only see a love story, three women, herman marries jadwiga, who was a servant of his parents, out of gratitude, because she hid his testicles for three years and she saved his life, so we're a bit of a spoiler, isn't that scary. that in contrast to what i expect from theater critics, all of us theater critics who wrote articles, they simply retell, i have such a friend, an actress from the lviv ulyalok theater, yana tytarenko, when she writes about the play, she
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writes much more professionally, i'm just in messenger, she sees movements, plasticity, voice changes, the little fingers of the stage, the light, here all the critics are perek. that is, herman lives with yadviga, he has another woman, another mistress, masha. and tamara's wife appears, and 10 years ago there was a witness who said that he saw with his own eyes that tamara and two children were shot. so my heroine appears, and it seems that we have experienced something that is impossible, not that it has not changed us, but we still return to these everyday showdowns, who cheated on whom, who with whom, who how, who cheated on whom, masha, who... goes into such a crazy whirlwind of life for her, parties, lovers,
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wine, cigarettes, this is how she saves herself, and this is also a way of salvation, and behind all this are completely lonely, unhappy people, because the enemies, as in bashevis singer, they are inside us, we, the worst enemy, well, everyone is his own hitler, yes, and that, that hitler that sits inside you. he is more terrible than we can eat ourselves, or we can allow our pride to be revived in some catastrophic on such a scale, and that is why these enemies are also among themselves, but, but the enemy is within himself, and the story, why, why, why, why, why, someone sees a very beautiful play, because the artist yuliya zaulichna made an incredible scenography, the circle is spinning, we have three assistant directors working in this play, this is my first job at the zankovetska theater, i
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have never seen such a professional approach of workshops anywhere. fitters in 10 minutes disassemble all the five-meter bookshelves filled with books, artists, props fill it all, instantly, these cups or chairs, make-up artists, costumers appear somewhere, well, i’m really just okay, a good team, but... i return to the point, because it somehow stressed me out a little, that is, domestic showdowns, who to whom and how and when against the background of the post-traumatic syndrome after the genocide and the enemy, that is, hitler in me, i'm already thinking, so stop, well , putin is not in me, with this genocide that takes place when it's enough even, even in distant physical lviv about.. . you drove the martian field to understand that no, it is not so simple to explain that the enemy is sitting in
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for me, such a small putin is the basis of my entire post-traumatic syndrome, well, i hope that people in ukraine think about why this war arose, well, why, if we did a poll, sociologists, they would not tell us that 90% realized that it's genocide and all russians just go to sleep with a dream... that ukrainians just don't exist, well, there's no such thing, well, there isn't, i've also become convinced, recently i had two such contrasts, they were the premiere in lviv with the hall, which in two weeks all the tickets are sold out, sold out, how accepted, how much is it it's warm, how theatrical it is, how the hall freezes, when you breathlessly hear the applause in those moments of the scenes, after an example of a successful scene, the resolution of the scene, and here it is. i'm going to another city, where mobile phones don't go silent, where people pick up their phones and
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talk at this time, a white church, and i see on facebook, i see you entered so joyfully, joyfully, and we joyfully entered, joyfully left, and i say, i came so disappointed with the audience and i say to my son: god, it's an hour from kyiv, he tells me: mom, well, drive 10 minutes from the center of kyiv and you'll see a different life, we still live in our bubbles, huh, but, well, every once in a while , the events of the maidan and the fourth and the 13th are mentioned, and it just coincided with these ones, well, are we doomed every 10 years, so surely doomed, because we do not draw conclusions, because if in finland the teaching profession is the most important and the highest paid, then it has its consequences, if there are nine children in kindergarten and three of them have to be raised. someone pays 10 € because you are an expat family
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you can't pay now, someone pays 200 € for the same kindergarten, and when i already have a family, the family has money, then i honestly write how my fortune has grown, and i will be grateful to this state for the fact that they treated me this way, when i just entered this country, no, today i have a state, because in front of the roman zubina... and one of my colleagues, a philosopher, political scientist, journalist, and now a school director, yes, he said so, he says that the wise learn from other people's mistakes. and we got to the point where we have some kind of strange fixation, we study exclusively, we do it in our own way, we only do it on our own mistakes, and since the memory of the sponge , guppy fish works, this means that each new generation, the green uninformed must go through its circle of mistakes, victims, maidans, shootings, scratching the back of the head, and then only
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she can draw some conclusions, it's different for me people said, now rimazyubina is coming. but, but this is a sign of an unconscious society, this is what i always hear and read about from our philosophers, and political scientists, smart, wise, forecasters, who say that society needs to grow up, and growing up happens when you you take responsibility, and when we return to this, that each of us has this enemy in each of us, when i take responsibility for what i did, or did i do everything so that this russian measure would not come. no, i didn’t , i stopped filming like that after a certain period, i declared about it, but before that, i didn’t have other options, other invitations, on the other hand, to take ukrainian tv series that were already filmed in ukrainian, and they are , for example, qualitatively much worse than what was filmed with russia, it is also a horror, who is this
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does, the producer, who agrees to it, we , er, education... culture, they are an integral part, and from about the seventh year i went to artek, there was an annual children's film festival, an international festival, with ukrainian representatives, these were and actors and journalists, together, there were seven of us, on the other hand, the russian delegation was always maybe 30 people, i spoke about this in all interviews, i sounded the alarm, i said why in crimea, why in the camp... which finances the state management of the affairs of the president of ukraine, why there on the stage, in addition to the fact that it is written there alla parusa, there is something else, and the lanovy comes out as the president of the festival, sings a ukrainian song, all this is beautiful, but there is the coat of arms of russia, the coat of arms of moscow, ugh, the coat of arms of moscow, and the representative is standing stage with us, i
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found a person in kyiv city hall. then i came, told them that it couldn't be, well , they very kindly answered me that they must be people from simferopol, and why are we here , kyiv, where is kyiv, where is this bulovastopo, well, from the oblast, not exactly from the regional center, that is, to what kyiv and and and and crimea, and and everything, and there are a lot of questions, but about the fact that about education, i am convinced that it should be the basis, yes, but education is a long time, it is still a process, the war is here and now, and even, well, it's quite sad, i think that there will be some kind of joyful coverage after the premiere in the white church, and the white church is not specifically about this, it just confirms,
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it confirms the phenomenon, i realized that just a viewer, he is not absolutely guilty of this, but he was brought up on... a different repertoire and he does not want to watch and listen, it's like food, to you they either give you clean water and you drink it, you get used to it, or they give you, well, but you can approach it philosophically, that is, there is a rejection syndrome here, despite the fact that there is a good play, good material, good drama, but if m the mass audience is used to eating shit, and they told him that it was a konkhvetka tuzik, then when they give him a konkhvetka tuzik, he will say: god, if you gave me shit, give me the previous one, this is what we are in, and this is also part of of such a post-traumatic syndrome, to educate and turn on the taste and understanding that такое плохо, а что такое хорошо, as they wrote back then in soviet times, but it's impossible, but i
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understood why in european museums i always meet these tours of children who are 3-5 years old, and they are sitting on the floor. and they are told something, as an example, i always, to get on a fun topic a little bit, as an example, you can then rent apartments on a daily basis, but in europe and here, and look at our interiors, at the interiors that are still there with carpets, with a yogoslav sostenka so beautiful, or even for those people who already have money, they they think that the road is a lot, it's a lot of gold, also pompousness, these curtains are french, the empire is like that. and to see what seems to be in poland, in france, in holland, well, we are talking about continuity here. philosophy, taste, aesthetics and education, so in this case we have a post-genocide process all the time, i.e. one genocide ends when the people kill,
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the first famine comes, after it the second famine of the 33rd year, the second world war, another famine, repressions, now the next one, we can’t take root in any way, well, let’s say, let's call it a word in a good sense. his aristocracy, which will show from above what is good and what is bad. for 70 years , the intelligentsia was considered a stratum, well, that's so soviet. i am talking now about the elite in the literal sense, in the literal sense, let's educate it, as it goes somewhere. and we now have an absolutely identical military mechanism, because we have everyone hiding from war, and those who are motivated to defend. including many people who should be a creative class in the rear, they burn their lives defending ukraine. from that side, moskal burns bio-garbage, mainly the pleps
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that he doesn't even want to keep in himself, that he wants to get rid of and found a way out of the situation, and we have the same karma that we are doomed again to experience this performance that you play, and only in the ukrainian way, immediately after the day of victory comes, you yourself answered. to your own question, why are such plays needed and why should they be performed, and why should they be staged? there, someone will really see a very beautiful scenography, someone will see beautiful actors, yuri's return khvostenko, whom lviv loves madly and he hasn't worked at the znkovetska theater for 3 years, and i see how there are all these women in the first rows, he also walks between them, well, but, but behind all this really there is another plan , well... like in a good drama, or in a good literature, in a good film, you once see one topic, another time you look at another, and the third time you think, how did i not notice
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this, yes, this will also penetrate the fact that i am not for the fact that the theater is a correctional colony, or is it some kind of training manual, no, the theater is a trigger, i talked about it there more than once, a trigger for your soul, if you come... after the performance, you also have a fever, and you can't sleep, you think, and you try yourself there, then this is an effect, but to get better, something is there somehow suddenly everyone started to be this or that, theater, well, there is no such mission, and it does not do this, rome, i return to this example of yours, that no matter where you climb, no matter what region it is, no matter how different words are used for this, in one they will say that this is stupidity, in another they will say that it is regularism. we can do it outline as a certain millet style, as we used to call it the late donetsk bikoko, yes, but still it somehow needs to be corrected and
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as soon as possible, otherwise we are going to start our european integration here in december, abeko it is crawling from all the holes even despite aggression of the russian world, well, i even hope that... people who went to europe forced by the war, after seeing how people live there, maybe they will return a little different, i have hope for that, because we have so many 38 % did not leave the borders of their district, and now 6 million is the minimum there, and when i say yes border, when i visit, i always tell our ukrainians that what is it like there, well, how can we help ukraine, well, for example, there is no wealth, there are no opportunities, and i tell them that you are in... you, specifically, you, the ambassador of ukraine , by the way you behave, how you shout at your children on the street or not, how you steal
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toilet paper or not, how you communicate, how you smile, how you behave in general in another country, by therefore, how can one person judge ukraine, ukrainians, well, that's also about level of consciousness, but it's not a secret that... our people unite and live in such tribes, and they, they are afraid to even go out, well, in warsaw, for example, i watched such a beautiful amateur group, there are grandparents, they dance, they sing , they read poetry, because no one needs them, these older people there at all, the children are at work, the grandchildren are also at work, and they go out, they don’t even know how to read polish , what is the name of the street, where to go, how, they are confused, but father through this exit. well, it's unbelievable, i am i watched this performance, okay, but it's a good performance, it's a good union within the ghetto, but it's not about integration, but we're about integration
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, not in the plan to assimilate and become someone. and pretending that you are a bigger muscovite than a muscovite, or pretending that you are an american in such a way that the cherokee indians will say, never mind, he was here before us, there is such a syndrome in the poem shevchenko's dream, it is described about a countrywoman in st. petersburg, remember, this is how i am in this plan, that there is hope, that this is like european tribalism, as outlined by rima zyubina, these are such gangs, you know, the same in gangs as in the original... is it a gang or a ghetto, or is it fashionable to say that these people will not really have the syndrome that existed before the war, because before the war, we have people they traveled all over europe for the beautiful and the good, not to museums and theaters, but for the beautiful and the necessary, and then they returned and started anyway, continued the poor practices of sovka posovkovi, instead of instilling german order there, viennese sophistication and
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slovenian there. and expediency or something else, there was no such thing, why suddenly now this is our flower the whole world is forced because of putin and the russians , suddenly they have to upgrade, they don't have to upgrade, if they only want it, they will become different, you can't change a person, if he doesn't want it, you can even beat him on the head with clubs and, well, if only there were such cases in history, but no, a person is all the same, that's why there is... this train and in the first car there are so many people that pull this train, but if in that train people jump out and all of them they stop it with their feet, hands and stopcocks, then the train moves, but very slowly, and here's what to do so that not only in that first car, where there is a critical mass of conscious people, those who seek change,
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those who seek to... my children live not better, better from the point of view , well, philosophical recognition and understanding , what to do so that it is transmitted from here, because history already tells that this infection is from those wagons, it reaches faster than this one, well, yes, so there is an answer, well, i don’t know, i have i have a lot, but after communicating with such wise, intelligent, beautiful people like you, i feel such an elation comes, and... then i go out and remember that people lost mozart's grave, that they rotted socrates, and i don't have any questions about humanity, the only thing i know is that all wars end anyway and all empires fall, but when to think, really, at what price all this is done, it is indescribable, it doesn't even hurt , i don't have such a word to say, because
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every day you read, and you read when... that you are not told statistics, but when you about a person, who she is, what she is, where she is, and you try her on instead, who stays, and and here too, god forbid you fall into this, what eh, well , i don't like this phrase, they die better, you stand then like this at this funeral and think, who are you here, you are such and such, who am i such, why am i here alive, well, it's a very fast way to burnout, yes, in this case in an artistic environment? especially in acting, well, there are methods, they are in this play, oh, in this play they are all shown, well, this is a classic, i have many friends, actors, and a classic of fighting burnout, it is alcohol, drunkenness and debauchery and and other joys, well, as in one at the performance, glowacki's drunkard said that petrovych and vodka did something bad to you, that you don't want to drink it, so in this case there is
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something. are you asking how much i use per day? i'm not talking about alcoholism, no, not about sex , not about that, i'm talking about what, i'm about the fact that somehow it's necessary, but when the hands go down like that, there is a certain burnout, you need to have a constructive way, not to burn out, and also don't give it to others, because it's not a matter of saving yourself, it's a matter of supporting others so that they don't burn out, there is a recipe from iryma zyubine, i don't have it recipes, because i... that we are all different, and i am probably given by nature that somehow i have such inner strength, i am stress-resistant, i have hardly cried in all these almost two years, i sometimes have more on stage tears are more than a knife in life, i am very strong, i
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know how to accumulate myself... my emotions, and i know how to...

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