accordingly , if ukraine enters the european market and becomes a member of the european union, it expects more, because ukraine, in terms of its potential and capabilities, they, after all, are a bigger country than hungary and slovakia, and they will simply begin to lose, they simply are now engaged in political speculation or blackmail of the european union. well, first of all, they still have different approaches, what unites the hungarian and slovak leaders is that they are politicians whose words are worth very little and who do everything to everyone earns, in this case , the european union earns too. at the same time, what fitze said now, he did not say anything so bad, on the contrary, yes, he said that they will not give us any of their state weapons, but they will sell them privately with the participation of the state, well, that's how it was, they all used to sell weapons to us, so it is very important for us that the democratic coalition still won in poland. because

if there was such a right-wing government in poland and we saw these roadblocks and everything that was happening, even though the polish government even that right, which was, until the last election in two months, they were also our best allies, it must be said for the sake of justice, but we do not know what would happen next, if trump wins, all these are unpredictable politicians, and russia can of course use their populism and unpredictability, but it must be said that with competent work they can, they will not be our ardent supporters, but... they can help us, and now in the situation in slovakia we see it, that is, by a huge number of scary words sometimes anti-ukrainian fizo basically took a normal position, he didn't deny us anything in particular, so apparently this is a way of dealing with the european union. another important issue this week, and obviously in the coming months, will be the multiple citizenship proposed by volodymyr zelenskyi on the day of the cathedral, he announced: that he is submitting

a bill to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, although one of the bills has already been there since 2019 year, during the 2019 election campaign, zelenskyi spoke about the need for ukrainians living around the world would return to ukraine, if they did not return, they would receive a passport of ukrainian citizens. i know that you have carefully studied this draft law and can tell our viewers what ukraine and ukrainians will get as a result. live outside the borders of ukraine and how this project can threaten ukraine, well, if , for example, some people will receive citizenship, they will, let's say, use this citizenship in some way that will threaten the national security of ukraine, the same can also happen, well look, everywhere they said that this is a bill to return ethnic ukrainians, although the bill is not at all... ethnic

ukrainians, there is a list of countries, these are the countries of the european union, in addition, the united states, canada, switzerland, japan, whose citizens can declare that they are citizens of ukraine, no, without adding any other documents and get ukrainian citizenship in an accelerated mode, they can not even pass an exam on knowledge of the language, history or constitution of ukraine. why is this done, to me it's hard to say, i've seen conspiracy theories that this is being done because they forbade foreigners to privatize land, and yes... they will give out citizenship to various businessmen and this will open the way to land for them, maybe so. i do not know what was in the minds of those who prepared this draft law for the president, which directly contradicts the constitution, because the constitution determines that we can have a single citizenship, the authors of the project say that single does not mean plural, but this the term single is used there several times, in particular, that we have a single the legislative body verkhovna rada, if we have a single citizenship, a single... the way it

was, it means a single citizenship, now the authors of the project say that the only thing this means is that it is the citizenship of a single ukraine, not lviv or poltava oblasts, which and it is so obvious, but in that case we can have a multiple verkhovna rada, we can have three verkhovna rada, three presidents, three cabinets of ministers, why citizens of croatia there can get citizenship, but citizens of israel or new zealand or australia cannot, it it looks strange, all the more so... that in some of these countries there are really a lot of people from ukraine, er, because of that, this is an absolutely strange draft law for me, which 70% repeats those two, which was submitted not only in the 19th and in the 21st years, which are currently under consideration in the constitutional court, there was no conclusion of the constitutional court yet, why was it necessary to file a third, for me personally it is incomprehensible, maybe in order to make some good or beautiful picture on the day of the election, because the president issued...

another decree on the special status of the kuban and of some other regions where ukrainians live in russia, which, as usual, angered our enemies from the country of the aggressor, which is very pleasing. and on the other hand, the residents of beristei oblast in belarus or even kholm oblast in poland say: "what 's worse is that we also live on our lands, and we would like the ukrainian state to take care of us as well, because these are rather pr moves, which, unfortunately, do not solve the problem, because the problem exists, i really believe that those ukrainians from the diaspora, ukrainians who are on autochthonous ukrainian lands and would like to have citizenship, it is possible to find a way to, well, begin to provide these rights." these rights are initially just their right to be in ukraine, to freely come here, pay taxes here, get a job here, and then , perhaps, through a change in the constitution and obtaining a second citizenship, but for this the constitution must be changed, without this change it is simply impossible to do it, but there are still people who are deprived of ukrainian citizenship because

they had two or three passports, well, for example, it was not publicly announced that kolomoiskyi lost his ukrainian citizenship, but the court found out that he does not have ukrainian citizenship, although this was reported in the media, gennadiy korban cannot enter the territory of ukraine because he was deprived of his ukrainian citizenship, in this situation can these people to regain their citizenship, because it will just look strange that people who live abroad are ukrainians and have ukrainian passports, and people who were born here, who according to the constitution can get citizenship here, are deprived of this citizenship, well, korban no. because as far as i remember, he had the citizenship of israel, and israel is not included in the list of these countries, except according to some other norm as a person who was born on the territory of ukraine, for example, kolomoisky according to this law, because he said , that he does not

have dual, but triple citizenship, whether he still has switzerland or cyprus, i don't remember, but which countries are on this list, in addition to israeli citizenship, so it will be possible for kolomoisky to return his citizenship under a simplified procedure, and what... there is not in this the draft law on the norms that future citizens of ukraine must know the ukrainian language, and whether it is so, well, it is relevant and fundamental , but now it is the same as in the baltic countries, because there are those who do not know the language, well, there in latvia or lithuania or in estonia, it is still difficult for them to just live in that country, there are exams, look, look, how many of these people are in the countries of the european union. we can give ukrainian citizenship to more people than there are now citizens of ukraine, and they can choose for us such a president or such a verkhovna rada the council, including from its own members, that this cannot have anything to do with ukraine at all, and russia can take advantage of this, obviously, if they do not even learn the language and the history of the constitution, then it can be anyone

and it can be quickly done, it just really poses a threat to national security. thank you, mr. mykola, for the conversation, it was mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, let's continue. we will work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who now watch us live on these platforms, please like this video so that it can be trended on youtube and facebook, and subscribe to our pages on these platforms, in addition, during this broadcast, we are conducting a survey, we ask you about such things, do you trust anonymous telegram channels, yes no, vote in youtube with the button or yes or no, write your comment. about what you think, there are interim results of the survey, here we are now seeing 7% of those who watch televsion, trust anonymous telegram channels, 93% , no, we will have the same survey in the second part of the program, which will start literally

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the downfall of il-76 in belgorod, russian information attack on hot tracks, will ukraine lose the media war? kremlin hypocrites. moscow demanded that kyiv be condemned for shelling civilians, the un confirmed its support for ukraine. the pressure on business will ease. a three-month moratorium on the investigation of the economy. affairs zelenskyi announced the creation of a council to support entrepreneurship. we work on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us there now, please like this video so that it can be trended on youtube and facebook. well, take part in our vote, today we ask you about whether you trust anonymous telegram channels. if you are on youtube, everything is quite simple, yes, no, or your answer, please write in the comments. below this video if you watch us on tv pick up your phone and vote if you trust anonymous

telegram channels 0800-211381 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free call at the end program, we will sum up the results of this vote. our guest today is volodymyr tsybulko, political analyst, writer, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. oleg sagakian, political scientist, head of the united coordination center platform. mr. oleg, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. my greetings are the same. oleksiy koshel, political scientist, head of the committee of voters of ukraine. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you in our air. also good evening. so, gentlemen, let's start with a quick quiz. well, it seems like a rhetorical question to political experts regarding anonymous telegram channels. well, since we ask our viewers

if they trust the anonymous telegram channel, i will also ask you, as readers, as consumers of information, will they? i don't trust it at all, brand publications with a good credit history are important to me. thank you, mr. oleg. i don't know, but you trust anonymous producers of dairy products or household products equipment, or even sneakers? personally, i don't, it's the same with telegram channels, products under which they are not ready to put a name, they are nothing. it is not worth it, accordingly, no one risks reputationally, i do not trust such products. thank you, mr. oleksiy. this is not even about the problem of anonymous channels, but the problem of the fact that the russian fsb is making itself at home in our information space. i personally see that a number of telegram channels of millionaires, millionaires who have a ukrainian audience,

they work there like a copycat from russia news with other propaganda resources. and the situation in our country reached such a point that last year we discussed the issue of putin's death throughout the country for a week, and even the secretary of the national security council was involved in this discussion. this means that we have a disaster in this regard, and therefore it is necessary to make sufficiently tough decisions, because it is a matter of national security, it is very serious. well, if telegram channels, anonymous telegram channels, sometimes appear at the press conference of the head of the ukrainian of the state of volodymyr zelenskyi, here the answer is simply not to the consumers of this information of these anonymous telegram channels, but to those who tolerate anonymous telegram channels, and i absolutely agree with you that you cannot trust anonymous telegram channels, because verification, and

there are verified telegram channels, it is better not to consume information in the telegram channel at all, but to receive it. from publications that are really branded and can be trusted, i completely agree with you about these telegram channels, here today telegram channels the russians began to disperse the topic with the downing of the il-76 over belgorod region, they immediately began to emphasize what happened in the sky in the state neighboring us, and it seemed that the way this information... was spread and then picked up, including by some ukrainian telegram channels, that it was a preparation for the fact that the ukrainians shot down the il-76 with prisoners of war on board, who were trying to be delivered to belgorod, how would you assess the reaction

of the ukrainian side, because what russia is doing now, she is trying to work on... on international sites quite quickly they spread this information that the ukrainians shot down a plane with their own prisoners of war, literally in an hour the meeting at the security council is to begin, and lavrov is there, he is already saying that this issue needs to be addressed immediately to be considered at the un security council. did we communicate correctly and is it even worth talking about the correctness of communication in the conditions of war? whether it is a question of the military, intelligence, sbu, and it is these structures that must accurately and competently answer these questions, obviously, which we don't have answers now, to questions , answers to which we don't have now, mr. oleg, well, the situation is not trivial, first of all it should be noted that

it is never possible to be fully prepared for such russian operations, but here we can assess the situation immediately from several first of all, we understand that the enemy is cynical, and similar situations similar to these russians have already created, and olenivka , and inter-17, other efforts of ukraine to blame, that is, in principle, this situation is typical and patterned, certain algorithms of response to such the situations should have already been worked out, unfortunately, we see that they are not enough, both in the authorities and in society, we see that part of society and the media, including them , immediately chased after the heat. began to drag out russian interpretations due to a lack of information, and this is inherent not only to our media world, but also, unfortunately, in the west, we can also state that there are serious problems. holes in their information resistance exist and the russians know them very well, if we talk about the expert environment, let's start from afar, then it's just as well that

leaders of public opinion, experts, political scientists could do everything together, what is relevant to media commenting, is to keep silent, because as for opinion, trying to analyze the situation without sufficient data, they are of little interest to anyone and can only harm this situation and... experts should to be silent loudly with many voices, who should speak, the specialized services should speak with one voice, and here it was not enough, as always, the weak link of ukrainian communication officially is the lack of the principle of a single voice, each of service, the strength of their ability, intellectual, informational, political and other capabilities began to comment on each of their clans, giving the most abstract comments, without giving any. this is not true, in a good way there should be either a single voice or a single coordination of various departments responsible for their areas, and the authorities,

official structures should provide a constant flow of information, even while it is not known what exactly happened, only appear though if there are any details of facts, they should immediately become part of the public discourse precisely from official bodies, increasing trust in them, only from russia are some interpretations appearing and they are controversial. in surnames, for example, in the flight path of the plane, where it is clear that the russians are lying, this should immediately become materials for communication by official ukrainian structures, with infographics, with 3d modeling, with the overlay of this, with previous russian information campaigns, a source of information , ukraine should have become the key in this situation, it was not possible to do that, so we actually see that on the international arena... began to be dominated by uncertainty and in some places by russian propaganda, however, to be fair, it must be said that a number of western media, in particular those that cooperate with ukrainian

journalists, where this information came out precisely from or from their reporters, who are in ukraine, or from the hired ukrainian journalists who wrote materials for them, there you can see a balanced position without the use of russian propaganda, although it is clear that without slandering the ukrainian, but where this was not the case, the whole... a number of western media dragged out the russian interpretations, and this is a shame, we once again demonstrated that we were not ready for such a russian attack. mr. volodymyr, if you were to advise zelenskyi's team, what would you advise in this situation, or the military command, the military-political command of ukraine, what would you advise to do in this situation? that is, there is a territory not under the control of ukraine, we cannot gather evidence of what, in fact, the russian is talking about. federation and it is clear that in this situation the kremlin is as usual lies, because we have a long history of russian lies, only in the last 10 years we can

remember, this and sword 17 shot down over donetsk region, this buchey, mariupol, they always lie when they talk about something, they can lie in this situation as well, how about to answer this lie, when, for sure, there is some kind of verification that our servicemen were there. no, well, first of all, it is necessary to refer to international law and to the customs of the introduction of war: first, the fate of prisoners of war is borne by the party that holds them, if the prisoners of war were brought to the front line, without armed forces, under the bullets of its ukrainian soldiers, then the ukrainian soldiers are not responsible for this, if... there really were, well, they were not there, a prisoner of war on this board, then firstly, the culprit of this story there is the russian

federation, the second is a military transport plane, it is not a civilian plane, er, further, the russian side knows for sure that in the operational zone of ukrainian air defense, ukrainian troops are being shot down. analogue, by the way, well, the a50 plane is the same il-76, only such a space plate is stuck there on top of it, but it is the same il-76, if the russian side brings this plane under the impact zone of ukrainian missiles, then the culprit is the russian side, what are the claims against ukraine, this is not a civilian plane, but the ukrainian media at some point... they became complacent and began not to inform about the fact that air defense had shot down, and perhaps russian air defense had shot down the il-76 over

the belgorod region. and they started talking about prisoners of war, and here, by the way, the services that are responsible for the exchange of prisoners of war behaved completely crookedly, because the first thing that they should have clarified, they should have verified the lists, and when the exchange takes place, the ukrainian side would have lists of those persons whom the russian side was ready to exchange for its own, well, for russians. such a thing in the ukrainian services for a minute of exchange that there was no list , this is a very strange story, very strange, i have the impression that at some point, emotionally unstable employees of the media pool of the pro-government bank, the bank, suddenly decided that it was necessary to protect well, let's say so,

the legality of the actions of the military of ukraine. but not the emotional component and shift the emphasis from the agreement to the russians to the prisoners of war. in fact, there could not be prisoners of war there, because if you pay attention to one important factor: 605 ukrainian prisoners of war, six crew members and three escorts. you don't think that 65 soldiers could for... buy a sail of the 76th in the air, considering that there were only three escorts, sew a ukrainian flag there from on board and wrap it, force the crew to fly to boryspil, no one thought about it, i.e. this is such a mismatch, and this mismatch has already gotten out in the evening, when the russian side stupidly published only the list of crew members and that's all, well, there are really, really, really

many questions. but here we are talking about how the russians are spinning this situation and trying to demonstrate to the whole world that the ukrainians are killing, killing their own sergey, and this is our reinsurance, because literally the russian strike a few days ago on the donetsk market, the interpretation of this strike, it it was a preparation for the next one, and now let's see how the propaganda changes. a strange paradigm russian, they suddenly began to believe in one voice, starting with some deputies of the state duma, that ukraine is a terrorist country, ukraine did not seize a single meter of russian land, but suddenly it, well, all of their sources, so to speak, began to portray ukraine as a terrorist country, and it is clear why, because russia cannot stop the flow of new weapons, then russia creates an image that... can

be sold to the unstable part of the electorate in western countries, that ukraine cannot be given weapons, this is what the operation is conducting, and the funniest thing is that some ukrainian influencers have fallen for this russian game, to be honest, what scares me in general is how many russian, so to speak, well, all kinds of good russian, so-called ukrainian tv channels, you have to... get stoned a little and start listening to ukrainians , and not to blow the brains of all kinds of russian, so to speak, refugees from the putin regime, there is no point in the ukrainian struggle. you mentioned what and how the russians interpret in this story about donetsk, when they got into the bazaar there and killed 20. seven

people, and obviously the russians themselves covered this bazaar, at least they did not provide evidence that the ukrainians did it, but there were min 120s fostoviks lying around the bazaar, yes , but these are ukrainian troops 40 km from the bazaar, they cannot use mines , to finish off with mortars, well, i mean that they tried to use this fact already in the un security council, they said there that... a meeting should be called, let's listen to what lavrov said there. the reality is that, despite the complete failure of the armed forces of ukraine on the battlefield, western patrons of the kyiv regime continue to push him with maniacal persistence to a senseless military confrontation. despite the fact that the kyiv regime survives thanks to western handouts, and

even they admit it.