to drink champagne there on our victory day , well, there is such a thing, it’s black humor, maybe, but nevertheless, i am often asked whether odessa, how they generally feel about it and whether there will be the forgiveness that someone is hoping for , you know, after such a thing, well, actually , let's see and understand that i repeat again what i quote very often, that there are many odessans, especially... russian speakers, they went to bed on february 23, and woke up on february 24, yes, guys, we have to say goodbye already, i think that just these people have a lot in this work, they heard and indeed, ukrainian grandmothers are the best, this is 100% odesa, especially, you are a really good and interesting story, just say that as a result of all those shellings, some odessans would have lost electricity there, well, let's say so.

the supply of light, for someone it and the supply of heat have already been returned? thank you, yes, mr. sergey said yes and said thank you, so sergey barachuk and i will meet next time, well, in the meantime, we will pay attention to one more event, namely, how he once went from a popular showman to a recognizable world politics, today the president and leader of ukraine you... is turning 46 years old, and this, by the way, is already the fifth year of his presidency, how the rhetoric of president volodymyr zelenskyi has changed, well, everything around him, let's see further in our story . dear volodymyr volodymyrovych, do not allow even a hint of a military conflict from your side, because russia and ukraine are truly brotherly nations. without gas or without you, without you. without light or without you, without you, without

water or without you, without you, without food or without you, without you, cold, hunger, darkness and thirst are not as scary and deadly for us as your friendship and brotherhood, the difference between the statements of volodymyr zelenskyi for more than eight years, now the current president has clearly determined for himself that russia is an enemy and a threat to all civilized world, however, even a month before a full-scale... war, the head of state reassured ukrainians that everything was under control and the country was moving according to plan. we will open the zaporozhye bridge, in a year we will build the largest highway in ukraine from uzhgorod to luhansk, we will build roads, as always, bridges, schools, stadiums, wagons, planes, tanks. we vaccinate the vast majority of the population. in april, we will celebrate easter, in may, always the sun, weekends, barbecue,

victory day, then summer, we will take the final exams, enter universities, plan vacations, dig gardens. these words of the president were in vain, because ukrainians spent 2022 in fear and without defined plans. russian rockets were aimed at homes, schools, and bridges. instead of barbecues and vacations, people hid in shelters or sought shelter. abroad, and ukraine's victory day, our soldiers are still fighting at the front. back in the election campaign and during the inauguration, volodymyr zelenskyi called the end of the war in donbas his main task as president. in 2019, as the country's commander-in-chief, he called on our military to cease fire. so that our heroes don't die anymore. i am ready for anything. and i'm definitely not afraid

to make difficult decisions, i'm ready to lose my popularity, my ratings, and if necessary, i'm ready without hesitation to lose my position, just so that peace will come. listen to me, i am the president of this country, i am 42 years old, i am not a log, i came to you and told you to put away your weapons, volodymyr zelenskyi admitted to ending the war already after a year of his rule. not as easy as it seemed to him, however , he was sure that he would be able to negotiate with putin to make peace, if there is no platform on which you can agree on the end of the war, then you will not end it in any way, i am sure that during my term of office we will end this war, we must tell the truth that we cannot stop the war without direct negotiations with russia, and today it recognized already in... i want to appeal to

the president of the russian federation, fighting is going on all over the territory of ukraine, let's sit down at the transition table to stop the loss of life. after putin signed the documents on the annexation of the occupied ukrainian territories, zelenskyi said that he is not ready to compromise with the enemy, and that russia can only be defeated with weapons. only the path of strengthening ukraine and expelling the occupiers from our entire territory will restore peace. we will go this way. from the moment of assuming the presidency until today, volodymyr zelenskyi has changed his opinion about the ambulance victory because running the state is not a marathon of achieved results, but the fate of the entire country and the course of events at the front. at the end of 2023, during a conference , president zelenskyi told the open truth: no one knows when

the war will actually end, but it will continue as long as russia remains on ukrainian territory, we have no way out, and this is our weakness, i think. and power, russia has a way out, to go home, we only have this house, where do we go, we have nowhere to go, and therefore the question is not how much it will be, the question is, how much more is needed, these are the changes, if you look at it. has grown over the past few years through the eyes of our journalists , it was really interesting, i just heard about barbecues, but i think that talking about on the birthday of the supreme commander-in-chief and the president, we will be with a person who is whole and, unlike us, wrote a book, this book called

i am here, we are here, we are all ukraine, the phenomenon of volodymyr zelenskyi, this is our colleague, polish journalist and diplomat and the author of this book natalie. abdominal constipation in connection with our studio, ms. natalya, we are happy to welcome you, good evening, good evening, thank you for the invitation, ms. natalya, but tell me when you wrote this book, this is a book about ukraine and ukrainians, who were so helped by our polish brothers, and we have absolutely super harmony and chemistry here, or was it a book about volodymyr zelensky and through his prism about ukrainians in a state of war? and you know, i was approached by the publishing house then, it was the very beginning of the war, it was in march, i think, i don't remember that exactly, i think i was asked to write a book about volodymyr

zelensky in march, somewhere in the middle of march, because he impressed the whole world then, but the publishing house also wanted to show the poles. to the poles, the phenomenon of volodymyr zelenskyi, but my opinion was that only about one person in a situation of war, in which everything is constantly changing and in which ukraine, ukrainians show that, that, in principle, every person in that country is a phenomenon, a phenomenon, so that it is correct in ukrainian, and my concept, mine was this: to show, of course, a person, concretely volodymyr zelenskyi with a very complicated and complex and interesting biography, yes, but also to show a phenomenon in principle for all of ukraine, in some sense of every

ukrainian, and so it seems to me that it somehow worked out more or less, although there was very little time, but that’s it, yes, mrs. nataliya, i ’m talking about the native himself, so do you think that volodymyr zelenskyi has undergone a transformation as president, that is , from who he was before his presidency, this russian-speaking comedian, and to ukrainian supreme commander and defender, or is it a transformation of him as a person, or is it just a change of speech writer and... just now a better speech writer? well no , you know, it's this, it would be, i think it 's still wrong to say that, what, that only good speechwriters made this person, no, of course, no, the transformation must

have happened, i even, paraphrasing your president, i will say that he simply did not have a choice, yes, just as there is no choice in ukraine, so there was no choice in those people. of choice, the transformation took place, i wouldn't say that from a comedian, because a comedian, from a comedian he generally started his career, so from this kvn, or something like that he called it. but when he started in the elections, he was already such a very successful person as a producer and manager, so it's a little, it's a little like that, everyone in the world says that, from a comedian to the president, but it's not quite, i would say, yes, but of course a person from show business, yes, to big politics, and even to the kind of politics that takes place in such a situation. that is happening in ukraine, of course, it cannot be, cannot

happen without transformation, i will not say as some people said at the beginning of the war, that this is the new churchill, the war is not over yet, and this story, and this biography is not over yet, and it is all ahead, we will see how, how, what, what are more the events before us, but... er, volodymyr zelensky, pay attention, even there in this plot of yours, how much the face has changed, every wrinkle, i think a good physiognomist could also tell a lot about it, of course that 's all - still the same person, but in a new way, in a new capacity, somehow i would say so, and of course, a lot of elites and hundreds for your of the president, and thank you, mrs. natalya, and... in this case, well, you know, we, i once

had the opportunity to talk with another ukrainian president after the interview, he told me then, it was viktor yushchenko, said that it is so, it is such a position, when you learn a lot, you enter there as a communist in the form of kravchuk, and then you leave the position already in the form of a nationalist patriot, or it is programmed that way exclusively in the position. ukrainian president, here you are on the example of zelensky, is this a general principle that works in the world, that a person who is exposed to a much larger field of information, including secret information, is forced to change, even if he came to this position with his fleas. no, i am not sure that every person, and please note that the majority of european presidents, at least, they already come from politics, yes, although i quoted oleksandr rudnensky in the book, who commented something about about zelensky, he said

then that in europe there is some demand, some, some need for anti-system presidents, yes, and let's see that we also have a very prominent politician in poland now, that is, he appeared now, which is also a show business, he actually led the party for the last few years, he is a scumbag, i know he is still there in ukraine.. .. so they didn’t pay attention to it, that is, it is possible that, what, what, uh, that ’s the case, uh, and uh, that change that zelensky went through, yes, that road, that path, of course, er, no, not a typical path for er, a european country, but the path from show business to the president and the president in the war, but there are no such examples at all, so here you can, you can, we can only talk about the zelenskyi phenomenon, yes, but at the same time, in this

discussion of supporters or critics, wanting to be churchill and being him or being chamberlain, trying to be churchill, these are such parallels, but they are stretched by the ears, because this is a unique situation, unique.