guarantee of property rights, there will be a temptation from one side of the security forces, from the other side of the political forces, from the third side who want to somehow take something away, redistribute it to infinity, so the first thing, of course, is to finish the process of primary accumulation of capital, all countries have gone through this, no we are alone, i gave you ford's phrase, that is, whether we want it or not, the second point, the history is not new, as he says... and until there is no personal responsibility of the law enforcement officer for the illegal actions committed, well, there will be such are the stories the story, well, as the people say, is murky , starting from the fact that it is not clear what the sbi was doing, and not us, the police, ending with, where were the 10 years, but it is rather, you know, colleagues, it was me who clicked a piece of paper, that , that this strategic uncertainty leads to the emergence of possibilities. it might be mazepa,

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well, but he died and as it turned out, it turned out that she could not use that biological material, that is, the sperm that he passed and froze. by the way, i didn’t even expect that there would be such a response to this publication, because after that everyone is talking about it, military personnel are talking about it, deputies are talking about it, i don’t know, i have an acquaintance who is just like that on facebook, who every day writes posts like "zelensky - this is a new church, or we are loyal to zelenskyi and so on." he wrote: i stop supporting zelenskyi until he solves this terrible problem with the egg cells and the freezing of the white-age material of the military, that is, it affected everyone, there was an immediate reaction of the ministry of health interestingly, they reacted quickly, so

they wrote an explanation that they will not dispose of the frozen biomaterial of the dead military cryobanks, but they said that this is a little bit like that... a legislative conflict, and actually, the law that voted, one deputy made it there , as it turned out later that he was a deputy from the servants of the people, radutskyi, he made this amendment, although the law was supposed to help the families of military personnel to use this biological material, but he made a certificate that prohibits and says that only after the death of a military person, it is necessary to destroy and dispose of it all, then they told the ministry of health. that the deputies now have to decide all this, and they are already writing some new laws. mr. stefan, what is your reaction to all this? i am truly grateful that we have the opportunity today to talk about such a very pressing topic as the reproductive health of our nation and

the fertility of our men and women. it depends not only on us doctors, but on society, on our government, and on the leaders. of health care, of our verkhovna rada, a lot depends on it, and you understand, just imagine, 10% of men in war have damage, traumatic damage to the genitals, 10%, 10% of all wounded, of all wounded, of all wounded have damage to the genitals, they will not be able to to become parents, plus these burdens that are on the front... nutrition, toxic exposure, and stress, and so on, and so on, negatively affect spermatogenesis, as well as the production of egg cells in women, and each spermatozoon carries a huge amount of genetic information, thousands

of genes are embedded, it will be damaged , accordingly, it was correctly thought out, and we are operational , for example, our clinic, my network of my clinics, in lviv and in ternopil, the clinic of professor stefan khmil, from the very beginning of the war from march 22 year started freeze spermatozoa. where are the military, well, we immediately reacted and started immediately , brian true, the rector of the ternopil medical university, was also involved in this project, we were helped by professor kozhda, mykhailo mykhailovych, and we are already conducting, it will soon be two years, how we are conducting it this project, but it was purely your private initiative at the expense of the clinic, ugh, and now imagine, this is a military man who will die, and i have such cases, i have no right to use this sperm. neither i, nor my family, nor my beloved wife, can't, that's it she can take donor sperm, a paradox

, but not her husband, this is abnormal, excuse me , please, she can use donor sperm, yes, but the husband of her beloved, who fought for ukraine, who protects us, whom she knows, whom she loves , which she wants to preserve for the offspring, she can no longer , well, spermatozoa, but there are... these are cells, we have embryos in the same way, there are embryos, also cases, i have no right to carry without it, which are stored, the future child , and now without his permission, if he did not sign, we don't have the right to do that, and that's why this law, this clause that was introduced, they are, because i know that in the first reading it was not, in the second reading it was... it shook us all, i'm sorry, please, we just were disappointed because we were waiting for this law, and we talked to

those who drafted this law at the first stage, and it was not there, but imagine, two years of war, and we still cannot help them, a paradox, and financing, as far as i know, about disposal since march is specified in the law, and... it will be developed that funding has been included in the budget since the 25th year, a paradox, we private clinics have reacted a lot and have already started to do it at our own expense, while the state for some reason is not clear here, and it’s inexpensive, it’s not and they literally ripped off how much it costs, it’s inexpensive , this is the freezing of spermatozoa, this is the freezing itself, it is somewhere around 1000 hryvnias. a month or hryvnias hryvnias is it for a month or in general no-no in general to freeze, and

then a year of storage is somewhere around plus or minus 100 hryvnias a year of storage, these are not such large funds, plus you need an additional the costs may also be due to the fact that the patient must pass the tests, it is certain, according to the ministerial order there is a certain list of tests that must be passed, yes , there are others for infections, well that... there may be additional costs for this, and that's why it caused a little bit of surprise among those, here i am for myself, what should i do with those spermatozoa, when a patient comes to me and says, i want, and i should tell her donor, please, and they don't, and this is despite the fact that she has already lost her husband, the fact was here, and there is the emotional factor of that woman then, so i imagine. she thinks, but i, at least we have a common child left, for example, the embryo is frozen, and you

say no, we have to throw it away, pour it down the toilet, relatively speaking, yes, of course, we will never do that, we will never we will not dispose, because i will be at my own expense , no one will force me to do this, we will never dispose, we will store, but i think that now the smart pigeons and the ministry of health here will regulate this process and will be given the opportunity that they will be able to use. with my biological material as sperm for my beloved men, i will ask the question, why in principle did you start doing this service for the armed forces of ukraine, servicemen and for free, that is, what were you guided by, why is it important, well, look, please, they are giving away their lives , they protect us, we must help them, they lose their health, their lives, and we for myself, i made a decision for myself from the beginning of the war to... carry out this social project, well, moreover, it is not so expensive, i will say openly, so more

expensive is this free extrachoral insemination that we carry out, for all military personnel we carry out extracoral insemination free of charge, it will soon be 2 years of extracoral insemination, already more than 500 married couples have applied to our clinic, and many who have already given birth, many , who are now pregnant. but now it is also very interesting, many such cases are also extraordinary in the military, but we managed to transfer the embryos before his death. he died at the front, she receives an analysis that she is just pregnant, she is carrying a pregnancy successfully now, you see, but there is a patient who came and said, stefanovych says, her husband died, what are we going to do with the embryos, i say, somehow we will have to solve the issue through the court

process, because we do not have the right to exercise it, he does not signed the transfer documents for us , you understand, the collision, i, but i... that now the verkhovna rada will solve this issue together with the ministry of health, and we will be able to, maybe the price issue, because the same thing must be kept - first, this cryopreservation, if all military personnel will be mass will use such a service, maybe in the end it will be a large amount, but there is also such a moment that children who are born in such a case are already widows, widows, for example, i don't know, there are more. cells, here or it is even worse regulated, for example , a woman died, a man, for example, remained alive, suddenly they are both in the army, and he with the help of some other woman, well, i think to you now, then she gives birth to this child, or this child is then a child who is a half-orphan, for example, of parents who died at the front, or because of that too the state should pay some kind of compensation, well

, in short, i'm fantasizing now, of course, but maybe this question is about the money of this amendment, what is behind this compensation? it is tempting to understand the logic, to take and cross out the law. look, mr. andriy, let's take a more global look at this topic. well, there is a demographic crisis in ukraine. the fertility rate this year was 0.7. in order for the nation to be at the same level, 2.2 is needed, we have 0.7, it is the lowest in the world, it is a disaster. now they are writing about the restoration of the nation. it takes up to 50 years, in order for us to recover, who will live on this earth, yes, but we must think about it globally and do everything possible, not to look for any obstacles there, but whether it is expensive, or this one, and how many spermatozoa, and how many will come, on the contrary, we ask those guys to come and freeze, but there is no

such mass, thousands, tens of thousands, you understand, no, it is not that expensive, people know, but we inform about it ourselves on social networks, here you are on television i tell you that we do it for free, so that they come, in other mass media information , we inform about it, we make it known, that's how they come, but it's not tens of thousands, and that's why the funds, i told you, it's not big, yes, to receive those children, the state must then help, excuse me, please, if we want to rebuild the nation if we want our population to increase. birth rate, we must do everything for this, we must look for ways and methods, how to help revive the nation, how to increase the birth rate in the last place in the world in terms of birth rate, we are currently, last year, 187 were born in ukraine 000 children, in the 90th year 637, if i'm not

mistaken, yes, by the way, i'm looking at what ours is doing. the enemy, that is, putin, for example , how he spent last week, he traveled all over russia and held forums in every big city, i don't remember what it's called exactly, it's a russian family forum, a family forum, that is, where he promotes giving birth to children, that is, they gather many mothers with children, give them gifts, and everywhere at every intersection, from every iron , putin tries to tell russians that you should give birth to children, and of course we we will use it as cannon fodder there, but below... how important it is, we also need to think, because it has many people, excuse me, please, we have a disaster, we need to think, the war is going on in our territory, many people leave the country, we need to think seriously, i think that first of all our country leaders should think seriously about this issue, create

such conditions for those women who are still planning to get pregnant, create maximum conditions and not think that... there is something expensive, this, sorry, please, it’s not worth it today, flattery, to look for patrons who would help, sponsors for this, there are many rich people in ukraine, let them help, billionaires who borrowed money from themselves, excuse me, please, those plants, factories, steamships, and also there are too rich, they can allocate funds for this, it is not so much needed, we know when we calculated with colleagues, uh, that in order to... to increase the number of births with the help of assisted reproductive technologies, there are not so many funds it is necessary, if the state would allocate it enough, but this year it is already positive that... the project should work already for free extra auxiliary reproductive technologies from the month of march, then we will be happy if it works and everything and at least something we will be able to help, what are the funds

anyway you did not agree approximately at least? well, you know, you need to calculate this, you know, now the state will allocate 1.5 billion hryvnias, uh, uh, it will be a big contribution, if it is really from... hryvnias, and you see it on social networks, he they write how they steal one and a half and more and 10 billion, no matter how many children we have, no matter how many children are born, uh, thousands of children, we counted somewhere around 30 thousand children, the world may appear, thanks to this, the director of the ptukh institute of demography for social research ela liban, she said about , that in order to at least somehow be recreated for ukrainians, it is necessary for a woman to have at least two births in a family. for us to be at this level, but imagine 100 years ago, every woman gave birth to six

children, the fertility rate was six in ukraine, there is a well-known story about how, for example, there was literally a social revolution, which then led to some irreversible, absolutely powerful transformations for centuries in the netherlands and in great britain, when the s... the middle class was able to have more children than the poor people were having, it might sound kind of unpleasant for there supporters of communism there and so on, but the fact is that people who were cheerful, who understood the value of statehood and responsibility, they gave birth to more children, gave them a good education, a good upbringing, and those children multiplied wealth and gdp of the country. we still had , i think, populist support for the birth rate before the war, when we paid out... a lot of money, which was used by poor people from the social bottoms in order to simply earn money for a child, it seems to me more immoral, but when we we are just talking

about that support, artificial insemination, then many people can say, and here is artificial insemination, just love more, young people , what are you doing there, can you explain why it is important to support this, well , please look, today one in five marriage pen cannot have children, it is about 20%, and you can have more, this is a big problem, it significantly affects the demographic situation in the country, i now suspect that these are exactly the people who would like to have those children now , because they already have some money , they already do, they would like those children, yes, but the war, it affects health, significantly, significantly, the war fundamentally affects it, you see how critical the situation is, first of all , it increases the percentage. infertility, because it is a stressful situation, women often think, whether to get pregnant now or transfer later , and the biological, hormonal clock is ticking in

a woman, and therefore she cannot postpone it for later, it must be decided now, the husband is at the front, she is here or abroad, you understand, the state must create all the maximum conditions for those people who plan to get pregnant, create everything and do not make any obstacles. not to look for some loopholes in order to then look in different ways to help those people, and then the birth rate will increase, and it should be in trend, many children, it should be in trend, and that people should have maximum support , you know, maybe i'm not saying it popularly now, but in order to increase the birth rate now, you know, for sure, what needs to be said, yes, whose wife is pregnant, he, he will not join the army. has a postponement for some time so that his wife gives birth like this, and well, something must be done, colleagues, but please understand,

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