dent and support the bank in a monomajority , but this issue is more thorough for rahami, and then the question of the need to involve other deputy groups and factions in voting for important draft laws will arise, because the 24th year is european integration, it is also further reforms, the further fight against corruption , and this will require the adoption of bills, now the law on mobilization, which will also need to be adopted by some votes, and this issue is serious, so i think that the leader of the servant of the people faction is worried for a reason. by the way, about the issue of mobilization , a new publication on the new york times has just now appeared, which is devoted entirely to mobilization in ukraine, more precisely, to the problems with mobilization, this is a completely fresh article, as far as i understand , today, and in fact there, in addition to what i have listed. in principle, we all already know

the problems associated with mobilization, well , they are obvious, and we all talk about them anyway, but there are also things that are not mentioned in our country or are not widely spread, for example, the publication here writes about that actually president zelenskyi tries to avoid responsibility for mobilization and tries to shift it to the military and the cabinet of ministers, that the very issue of mobilization... is not very popular in ukrainian society, also cite the words of oleksiy honcharenko, an opposition deputy from european solidarity, who literally says that no one explains why, for example, 500 thousand need to be mobilized, and he says that if our strategy is to attack through russian minefields with russian air superiority, then i don't know. or half a million people can

be enough, maybe a million or even 2 million won't be enough, and we can't beat russia just by the number of people, because we will always, they will always beat us in such a competition, just because they are bigger, that is, this is also some kind of expression in principle, reasonable remarks, which, by the way, are difficult to express in the ukrainian media for many different reasons, but... but this does not mean that they are not discussed, for example, abroad, on foreign platforms. well, look, well, foreign media also sin with inaccuracy and political involvement, with all due respect to the fact that this is the press and this is the media of the democratic western world, but sometimes a lot, not that sometimes, but very often.

their activities are organized according to the laws, the best laws of political communication, and as for the topic of mobilization, the reason why they did not adopt the law, in the first edition, submitted by the ministry of defense is very simple, well, the indignation of the deputies who tried to spread publicity, yes , that's it, and that's for sure you can also understand them, but the main reason is the lack of voices, including in the leading faction. it is connected in fact, and the same thing, pay attention, the deprivation of the position of bezuglya in the parliamentary committee, ugh, also caused certain contradictions and conflicts in the ukrainian parliament, by the way, this issue has returned a little interest in the parliament, yes, because it has been a long time there was no such commotion among the people's deputies of ukraine, the ukrainian citizen somehow forgot. about typical parliamentary routines in

our time, but very many people really want and want to return this artificial political discourse and show to the screens television, and forgetting that the state of war dictates its own requirements for political communication, at the same time, what is the artificiality of this discourse? i return once again to a very specific question that allows you to parties... new york times, opposition deputy, half a million for what, for what strategy, because we hear, for example, about the strategy from yermak, who in principle has no authority to formulate any strategies, and here we do not understand, and this is the strategy, we will really go through minefields, we will be free, well, that is, there is no the principles of the discussion, and this is not a question of people who are talking about these topics in the rear here, but a person who lost a leg in the first days of the offensive. counteroffensive, company commander of the 47th

brigade mykola melnyk gave an interview, again, not on the only news, but on ukrainian truth, his journalist asks what you think about the tv. marathon is the only news, he says: i turned it on when i was already typing, i came to my senses in the hospital, turned on the tv, and there was this telethon, and people on tv were talking and seriously discussing how we through we will be in crimea for three days, and he says: i realized that we have an absolutely different reality, which is created by this telethon, let me remind you, for quite a lot of money, and therefore the question, in principle, with actors, with actors, with people , who make decisions, should be discussed, because this is... a discussion not with opposition journalists, this is a discussion not even with deputies who were also elected by the people, by the way, who are also the people of ukraine, but this is a discussion with society in general, social discussion, because a social contract is needed for to understand why we

are going to die now, for example, or why we have to pay taxes if, for example, they can be stolen somewhere along the way, and there is no place to talk about it in essence, on a general public platform, that is. .. what problem was created? see, there are two realities here: black and white, and by the way, both will be true. the dark reality is that during the war, any public, public discussion that contains elements of enemy influence operations, elements of political struggle between different groups in the ukrainian elite and the authorities, is a risk for national security, that is why there are... certain mobilization calculations, of course i understand that we have a habit that people's deputies, political scientists, experts can express their opinions on mobilization, they can ask thorough questions, but the very question of raising such a question, that we are discussing serious

matters related to calculations, mobilization calculations, which are made by the general staff, the supreme commander-in-chief, the national defense security council, the highest level. high command, get into the political discourse, this, if you take this black stripe, it is actually a problem, look, but this habit, it is actually a habit of democracy in this country and freedom of speech, don't you think so, firstly, and secondly, look , we are looking at israel now, where there is a very strict military censorship, stricter than ours, absolutely correct, but there is no political censorship at all, the fact is, the problem is that the question of mobilization is not a question... political, it is a military question , that's why i always said that it is possible in some issues, if the authorities acted, let's say, from the very beginning communicatively fairly, understanding that instead of these raids, there

are territorial centers that we all see there in anonymous telegram channels that influence mass consciousness, and etc., etc., etc. if there were not this wave-like, social, controlled and not so controlled disturbance, then perhaps this issue would be understandable for a large part of society, so the white line, the white line is that now it is too late to introduce some limited military censorship in ukraine regarding commenting on military actions, but it is necessary then, and you... i agree with you, to form social clusters for dialogue and to explain, explain and explain again, moreover, to do it on the basis of social norms that have an offshoot of fair mobilization, which is actually what the president of ukraine is talking about, and as i understand it,

we will all see drafts of a new draft of the law on mobilization and mobilization preparation and other regulations there. legal acts, and if the authorities have failed somewhat in terms of communication, or decided to independently turn the question of mobilization into a discourse, well, then it is a matter for the authorities, and then she now needs to somehow get out of this impasse or even a split, and at the same time also perform safety things, because there is an army that needs a new wave, needs rotation , which requires further problem solving. mr. oleg, finally, what rahamiya said, that we can, in principle, open up our losses, announce them, this is a question, actually military or political, because in israel

every day they announce who died and what the number of these dead. we haven't talked about it for two years, although we also announced it during the ato. about our losses, and now, for the second year, the parakhamia says that in principle it is possible, it is possible to say, well, i think that it was kaminu goru to the head. well, in my opinion, because it was an initiative of the military, it is possible not to form from the very beginning, a certain public disturbance at the stage of the frantic defense of the country, especially in 2022, whether society is now ready for these numbers, in my cautious opinion, we can see with you , the destruction of the infrastructure with his own eyes. we see the numbers for how many civilians

and soldiers are in captivity, we all see with you, you know, sometimes we pass through cemeteries, we lay flowers for deceased relatives, relatives, friends, and we see how many of these graves there are, perhaps the time has come when this figure it would be necessary to voice it, so here a consensus between the political and military... leadership could help this problem. thank you, oleg posternak, a political technologist was with us, let's take a short break, come back, and continue to talk about what is happening in america, or really america is on the verge of a civil war, as the russian press writes about it. there are discounts on citramone darnytsia, 10% in psyllium pharmacies, it's economical for you. man. who fell into a coma, learns the news, spartak

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continuing to provide aid to ukraine, i read that it also appeared in the national review today. an article by john hardy, who is the deputy of the foundation for the defense of democracy, and the head of which, which has a very telling name, ronald reagan would never have betrayed ukraine, and i wonder where he is basically saying, he just quotes reagan and says , that if republicans still have a relationship with reagan, then they wouldn't have behaved like that, but i just look in the comments, there are a lot of comments, there are already more than 200 articles, and people write ordinary ones, one, for example, writes, i'm a conservative, i vote. for the republicans, but with all that, well, i don't understand why they refuse to support ukraine, of course it's a problem that we have on the border, but it's putin's threat to the states and europe and so on, and he is responsible here another, that the existence of the united states is a fundamental threat mass migration, and europe, and then, as

ukraine is 5,000 miles away from us, and this is generally secondary. thing, and this probably also shows the discussion that is happening now in the united states, is there anything we can expect, or will it somehow be possible to solve this problem in the near future? well, you asked several questions at once, mr. andriy, yes, i, i will try to quickly answer all of them, that is, firstly, how did it happen that the aid to ukraine became a convenience for the situation on the border, and... the situation with the immigration law, well simply because of that, because it was demanded republicans, because they refused to approve aid to ukraine, without any conditions, the joe biden administration proposed twice to congress to approve aid to ukraine,

separately from everything else, just as part of the 24th budget and ... and that was part of the proposal , the general proposal for the adoption of the state budget for the 24th year, back in may of last year, the administration, or in june of last year, according to, according to the way it is always done, the administration submitted its budget proposals to the congress, but the congress budget for the 24th year and still haven't accepted the country lives on the next temporary budget, already the third one in october. the administration offered to make aid to ukraine for the entire 24th year part of the temporary budget, which the congress then adopted for a month and a half, the republicans refused this, then the administration proposed to accept at least include in the budget the aid to ukraine for one

quarter in that temporary budget, the republicans refused again from this, then they began... to demand that the border problem should be solved first, the border with mexico, this is a disaster, it is necessary to solve this problem, otherwise they will not provide aid to ukraine, then the administration proposed, the war in the middle east had already started then, the administration proposed a new bill, which is still under consideration, called the emergency appropriations bill. us national security, and there is aid to ukraine, aid to israel, aid to taiwan, there is 14 billion to provide for strengthening security at the border, there is also money to reconstruct the production of submarines americans, but the republicans said that even this was not enough for them, that they are demanding changes to

the law on immigration to make it much tougher. rules for applying for asylum in the united states for third- country nationals crossing the mexican-american border. well, this is the subject of negotiations, starting somewhere from the end of november, the middle, from the end of november. and it seems that already the senators, there were three senators from each of the parties, they held negotiations about this for a very long time, before the negotiations there was involved the administration and the president himself , it seems like they had already reached a compromise that they agreed to, then the republicans started saying that uh... they don't like it a lot of republicans started saying that they don't like it. why does this happen? because obviously this border issue is not

really, really something that republicans want to solve right now, and first of all, their leader, donald trump, he doesn't want to help ukraine, and he doesn't want to solve the border problem, which he's openly talking about, because he wants to show... that in joe biden has a failed policy, that he does not provide security at the border, that he wasted money on aid to ukraine, that all this should not be done, and since trump began to win in the republican presidential primaries, the dependence of republican lawmakers on him is increasing from with each of his such victories, he still won battles and in newger, there were no more primaries. the caucuses will be in nevada on february 8th if he exposes this dependency will be even greater why? because republicans first of all, in the house of representatives

, which will all be re-elected in the fall, they are afraid of losing their seats there due to disloyalty to trump, that is, if they praise something that trump does not like, then he can nominate some other candidates, his supporters, and they will then lose seats in ... aggression, and to have those seats, to be re- elected, is much more important to them than anything else. this is a situation that is very shameful, for example, as a citizen of the united states, it is simply shameful for me. it, this, this is a shame, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, i would say, bloody politics, simply on the blood of ukrainian women and children who die under russian missiles, and simply this, this, this is terrible, actually, uh... actually and what to do about it, it's very difficult to say whether they will finally agree to approve these

allocations to help ukraine or not, it's just simply not predictable, i, i can't answer that question , mr. igor, actually about this crisis in america, the russian media are writing about the fact that america just on the verge of a civil war. how should we look at this situation, because of course we are watching america, because of course that help to ukraine depends on it, how serious is this confrontation, what is happening there in texas, is there really going to be a civil war, how scare russian journalists or propagandists, i would like to say, you know, i would like to refer to professor timothy snyder, i was here last week. listened to the discussion in which he participated, as well as serhiy plokhiy from harvard university, yaroslav hrytsak, from the all-ukrainian catholic university of lviv, they successfully participated in the discussion of such an interesting history

of ukraine and the future, i think it was called, there they were just asked the question of what to do, how to protest against russian disinformation, and timetnaider said that if we we will, that is, try to... object to every russian disinformation, then we are just like that, he said, we are stuck in this and we cannot do anything else, so the only way is to simply spread the truth information, well, what is happening there in texas on the border, of course, it is completely exaggerated, it is an elephant made out of a fly, russia , russia, this russian company is so completely conscious, and i think that it is, first of all, it is focused precisely on the fact that in ukraine it is read and... and shuddered at the fact that everything is so bad in the united states, there will be a civil war. of course, there will be no civil war because of this. what is happening there, i will explain in just one minute.

the texas governor ordered the texas national guard. each state has its own the national guard, which is subordinate to the governor, that is, it is actually such an armed, armed forces, they have different numbers in different states, well, well, well... this is according to, according to the law, he ordered to take control of a section of the border with a length of approximately 4 km, why did he do it, well, just to demonstrate, again, that joe biden, he does not care about the border, but the republicans care about the border. actually, policing the border is a federal prerogative, and these texas national guardsmen, they took that a very small plot. under control, so they didn't just let the border guards go there to perform their duties, there

because they... also put barbed wire there, so they're watching this area somewhere, even less than 4 km, they there they began to set up such a fence made of barbed wire. the federal authorities demanded that they stop doing it, they refused, they made such a big policy out of it. the federal government, the administration, she sued the supreme court, sued the state. texas and asked to consider it in the tribune of order the supreme court ruled in favor of the federal government, of course, because border protection is the duty of the federal government. and the governor of texas refuses to comply with this decision of the supreme court. well, what 's next? look, the president has the right to simply issue an executive order subordinating the national guard of any state to the federal government. then she

will simply, simply perform. orders from the united states military command, orders from the pentagon, uh, i mean he can do it at any time, but i think joe biden will try to avoid such an aggravation of this absolutely political confrontation, because this is all that is happening in america in a pre-election year in the conditions, really, when there is such a big split in the country, when there is a very fierce political struggle, which is becoming rampant, unfortunately ,... there are victims of what is happening in texas because there are really a lot of people trying to cross the border illegally, there is a woman and two children, eight and 10 years old, and a 33-year-old woman, they died, they just drowned there this river rio grande, when they were trying to cross the river, well, it was somewhere on january 10,

this tragic... took place, if it continues, well, there will be, this kind of political confrontation will continue, of course, there will be no civil war because of it , and texas will not secede from the united states, but it must be taken into account that as early as the 17th year such a famous american journalist, carl berenstein, one of the investigators of ottergate, together with god budwart, he said that the united states is, on sorry, in a state of cold. civil war, because he was referring to this very confrontation that began in society with the appearance of donald trump in american politics, and it, as you can see, continues. mr. professor, unfortunately, there is simply no more airtime, there are a lot of unanswered questions, including nikki haley's chances in this election, and whether any judges have a chance, for example, to prevent trump from running, and also whether the

biden administration is really changing plans, what he writes about. for example, regarding support for ukraine and the future ukrainian victories, let's try to transfer them to our next conversation, let's, let's always remember with pleasure, we agreed on the future, thank you, mr. igor, igor eisenberg, a professor at new york university, was with us, he finally explained what is happening in the united states of america, because today someone in the audience wrote about the fact that find out, ask yourself what is there, as you see, friends, the civil war that the russians want to see in the united states is canceled, do not believe the russians media, and russian propagandists, they invent some kind of parallel reality. dear friends, what i want to say is, i want to thank you incredibly, because you and i did it, i honestly did not believe this morning that we would succeed, because this morning we had another 163, in the account, and now we have

uah 201,475 and 15 kopecks. that is, we have already started the next one with you, the next 2,000 for our military, which we are collecting, we need to collect a total of 1 million, and we are collecting for and for walkie-talkies, and for batteries for them, and sterling, and binoculars, and a rangefinder , and periscopes, and detectors, detection of drones and many other things that are very necessary there at the front, here is this qr code, those who have not made it yet can join, well, from monday our colleagues will announce this again collection, so stay tuned for their announcements. andriy seichuk and i thank you for being with us this week, and we'll see you in a week, and you stay with espresso, because there's a lot more exciting stuff planned for espresso today.