he does not name names on purpose, because this is a responsible journalistic position, well, yura butusov said that he turned to zelenskyi yesterday and said that do not do these personnel rockers and do not make budanov the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, because it would be a mistake, well that is, he wrote correctly and this is the correct warning, he has such, he has such an assessment, well, that is, for some reason he believes that kyrylo budanov is a candidate, a possible candidate for... for the post of commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, i believe that we have many armies well, also bright, talented people , but again, i have at the moment, i have at the moment, like a politician, well, there is no reason to believe that valery fedorovych is tired there, that, well, this is a war, this is a colossal burden, especially on the commander-in-chief , maybe he has his own reasons for thinking there. about some

kind of rest, we don't know that, and it's good that we don't know it, because the enemy doesn't know it either, and maybe there's no reason, maybe he's full of strength in general and ready to continue to lead the ukrainian army, you know, well a usually, in general, these are all the motives of certain personnel reshuffles, but i will remind you that , for example, bernard montgomery... was, if i am not mistaken, the fifth commander of the british forces in africa, the fifth in the count, so, that is, well, the change of officers, even the highest ones, is a normal story in the war, about the real reasons, usually societies and historians are silent afterwards, because if you start to smear the real reasons during the war, then you are playing into the hands of the enemy, thank you, mr. nikita, mr. yaroslav , who... is rocking this one

the topic of changing the head of the armed forces of ukraine, how dangerous is it for the army, how dangerous is it for the state, because we all live in a country where there is a war, the enemy is attacking us, and we have the head of the armed forces of ukraine, who is responsible for this and says , that i am responsible for this, we are fighting, we continue, how do all these conversations affect what is happening inside ukraine? look, if you allow me, i will come a little from the other side to this question, does mr. president have the legal right to make such a decision? the answer is as you would like it or no, yes, will it be well received in society, well, sociology so far gives the answer that no, it will be poorly received, and now i... in a completely different way, bring back,

bring back our discussion, first, what happened yesterday, i quite an active user of social networks, and i can definitely confirm from my own experience that yesterday this thesis was promoted, well, let's put it this way, people are close to the authorities, i don't understand for what reason, but i can definitely say that it happened, not there, not there.. . of the first person, not direct employees, but related to him, was it just confirmation of rumors, or was it on purpose, in this way they heated up the information space, but well, it is a fact, secondly, m, today several reputable publications appeared with a description of the situation, which has not yet been refuted, this is the mirror of the week and... bbc ukraine , maybe

more - these are the ones i've seen. both are respectable, both will refer, as i understand it, to their sources, and talk about the events of yesterday, about the meeting between mr. zaluzhny umierov and mr. president. and now the third, why it is necessary to react to it and why, unfortunately, these rumors regardless of whether they are true or not, they are hitting us now. do a very simple experiment: open the main page of the financial times or the guardian right now and you will see this news on the first column. more such international publications appeared, including bbc, wall street journal and others. these editions are read by people on whom the question depends right now this week, and perhaps within a few hours. will

the financing of ukraine be extended for this year, without which it will be difficult for us, to put it mildly. this news does not help now because they accepted decisions in support of ukraine, i won't say that they interfere, yes, i wo n't comment on their behalf, but they definitely don't help, so whether we like it or not, but the reaction yesterday took a long time, and to be honest, well, the wording is vague enough that the ministry of defense, that mr. nikiferova, because he is ska, you just have to pay attention, as he commented, it perceives. in different ways, now i did not give the opportunity to stop such publications after a day, and one way or another, but now it is necessary to give some kind of signal, once again, this is a complete right supreme commander-in-chief, this

is a communication strategy that the ministry of defense, or the government, or the president's office should do there, but we need to somehow give answers to those foreign publications, once again... not in favor of ukraine now. well, yes , what are you talking about, they wrote so directly that the president did not refuse to fire zaluzhnyi as the head of the armed forces, and this will inevitably happen. ms. victoria, mr. nikita said that some political forces, or some people affiliated with political forces, tried there, to spread this information on social networks, so in general, have you seen it and do you perceive it as, shall we say, a gesture towards european solidarity? you know, well , at first this information began to be disseminated

by telegram channels, which i would call close to banking channels, and it is necessary to analyze where they got this information from, then we began to write about it... i wrote about it directly, i will tell you, i had several sources from the general staff of ukraine, i absolutely do not give up this information, and from the ministry of defense, to things, there were also sources that said that there was a meeting, yes with the participation of mr. umerov in particular, that there was talk of resignation, that it was suggested to write a statement, that the hard worker refused, yes, all these things, they have been confirmed, let's not pretend that someone made this up, come on... come on, let's not play and play really here, this is the case, you know, when you really want to blame bloggers and journalists, but here it is the fault of the politicians, who should have a clear position, made a decision, accept, explain to the society and let's move on, the country is not in the conditions

to deal there, i don't know, to measure the public temperature or the endurance of the allies as of now, yes, because it looks like that, that's exactly what is happening today. wrote, in particular, that the decree was not made public only because there were anti-allies, and you could also read it, yes, that they took it negatively, no, it was not, you know, the case when someone threw something into the information flame , i threw some kind of wood, it was already a lot times, and all that is done by mrs. zulzhna, who today is not fired from the position of first deputy, or simply deputy chairman of the defense committee, well, she does it not... not just by herself, it is not her own will, yes, because otherwise if her people's party had told television a long time ago and would have voted accordingly, if this does not happen, well, this is an absolutely clear indicator, she is carrying out a higher political will today, once again throwing in these topics, we are not throwing them in here,

you understand who b there now that we are not reproached, we warn, because my text came down to the fact that this is a dangerous story, because yesterday i really received a huge... backlash from my absolutely apolitical friends, girlfriends, who said: what are you, well, it's already, we, we are very, we, us it worries us a lot, it really triggers us, where to go, what to do in general, here, and here really, this is the case, this is exactly the case, when answers to the society must be given, to say yes, we did not agree on the issues of tactics, strategy, there is another executor, and there are some other things, it's all clear, the supreme commander has the right to do this, but to engage in... rocking, when it constantly happens and such conversations take place, well, there is no smoke without fire here, this is not a made-up story, we understand it all well, and let 's not tell each other such things here in general terms, this is probably not the case when you need to play with such topics,

you need to make up your mind, thank you, mr. nikita, please, in fact, to be honest, i'll give a quick answer, but still. we have many years of normal human relations, so don't worry about it on a personal account, so please take it, uh, so, well... i think it's completely different people playing, it's definitely not us, because you know, i've heard a lot in the last six months, in the last year, this is definitely not a reason to get out and tell that, but i heard that shmygal was changed to markarov, everyone told me, or not, everyone told me all over the hill, they stubbornly told me that they had been changed. no, they talked about kubrakov, that he was replaced by the prime minister, then they told

that kubrakov would be removed, removed, changed, no, this a reason to stick out and tell? look, i know you have your guts, just like i do, but there's a responsibility to what we say publicly in times of war, definitely, definitely, i agree. completely, what history should have taught us, i hope that it has taught us, and that there are no more mistakes when the petliura shoots the most talented military leader of the ukrainian people's republic, or bochan, in ukraine, because history should have already taught us on this example, in particular, but history also teaches us because when we are not there, where it was, where it was not, c bomb shelter, in the office. the president, in the office where the rate is being collected, what is the difference , we were not there, neither me, nor yaroslav, nor

you, and therefore to relate to what acquaintances tell us, and i also have them, and to relate to the fact that we doing with this information, i just think that we have to do with the maximum responsibility with the maximum we have to do with what we, what we all heard about, i... glory and i, we all, did not happen, and it is not a fact , that will happen, it can happen, and then, and then there will be a conversation, excuse me, how absolutely correct, how, how you and yaroslav are absolutely right now to point out, differences in issues of strategy , tactics, defense, offensive, a lot of questions , honeymoon, well, now it reminds me there, well , i do, i do again, it’s not sexism, it reminds me of time from the time of the behavior. very offended to live, but, but again, i do not invest in it anything other than,

let's say, political content, and, well, but this is also absolutely irresponsible behavior, 200% irresponsible, much more irresponsible, with calls to keep unity, so what, no, listen, i'll look, here just three people gathered in mr. serhiy's studio, i think that we are all there for sure. we know the price of responsibility, and i think that no one, each of us, can blame each other for the fact that we do stupid things, and when i say that we all need, i actually mean all of us, regardless of addiction, who is in which faction, thank you, mr. nikita, we will return to our studio after a short break, ladies and gentlemen, please wait. hello woman, what to do when the liver wakes up? alohol

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to these numbers are free, call. i would like to remind you that today we have people's deputies of ukraine, viktoriya syumar, mykyta poturaev and yaroslav zheleznyak on the air. i thank them for participating in this program and for sharing their thoughts with us this late evening, and of course, ladies and gentlemen, i have to ask you about what is happening now in the parliament, because after harakhamiya said that people are fleeing or want to flee from the faction, 17 people's deputies of ukraine and that... this could lead to a parliamentary crisis, to be honest, i can't help but understand how if even 20 people leave from the servant of the people, why is it called a parliamentary crisis, well, 20 people will leave , there 10 people will leave according to the lists, they will come with the following who follow the lists, 300 deputies

will in any case be in order to make various decisions that are necessary, why, why a parliamentary crisis, a crisis is possible. in the servant of the people, that there will not be enough people who came for the majority constituencies, maybe you know a little more, victoria, you are asking me about the servant of the people, what is going on, i understand that the problem of the mono-majority of the monocoalition, it indeed, it already exists, indeed it is becoming more difficult to gather votes, i think the position of the leader of the faction, mr. arahami, who began to provide, is related to this. publicity, because frankly speaking, my colleagues have little reason to be tired, forgive me, i don’t think that now the ukrainian parliament is working in the mode where everyone simply put their hands and feet on work, unfortunately, probably, it’s not even parliamentary decision, and the parliament could be much more active in these conditions. thank god, right now, i was personally engaged in what i was reading

the new draft law on mobilization, it appeared on the parliamentary website literally half an hour ago, the government finally submitted it to the verkhovna rada in the evening, a number of positions there are much better than they were in the previous, in the previous versions of this draft law, at least disabled persons of all groups , including the third group, are not planned to be conscripted, but they are planning to introduce an electronic conscript cabinet, so we will discuss, we will work, here is the position of our political power, everything that is needed for european, for euro-atlantic integration, everything that is... our ideological promises to our voters, we will always support, we will not support things that will complicate the business situation today, we cannot and will never support unconstitutional things, those things in which there are corruption risks , and we maintain this position today in the parliament, and i hope that the parliament will still

realize its level of responsibility to the country during the war, it is not for nothing that the law on martial law... prohibits holding elections during the period of martial law , exactly of the parliamentary elections, i emphasize this, and it certainly means that the legislator , as a matter of fact, even in those first convocations, he established a high level of responsibility of the parliament in the most difficult crisis and historical situations for ukrainian society, as it has already happened in our history, and in 2004 and in 2014, so we have to be worthy of the trust that ukrainians have given us after all. for today's people's deputy, for me to hear these numbers is wild. thank you, mr. yaroslav, perhaps, well, we will get to nikita potoraev in the same time the ends under the veil, that in order for him to explain what is happening there, i want to hear the very first versions of your colleagues and viktoria syumara, yaroslav zheleznyak, well, what kind of crisis are we talking about

, or will there be this crisis, or will there not be this crisis, let me give an answer ahead of time , come on, i think the same thing for the castle, look, all three of us know david arrahamin very well, what exactly can be said about him, that accuracy in these... this is not his strong point, there are no 17, 117 and 1117 deputies, if you had, you would have asked at the same moment how much deputies, i am sure that the figure would have been different in the other direction, i know of one case, and i have every feeling that i am correct in my assessment now and may even exaggerate a little. and that is why there is no crisis, there is no flow of deputies who want to draft a mandate

, there is nothing terrible, even if there was such a flow of deputies, because other people simply enter the list, in the parliament, well, a sufficiently large number of laws are passed not just by a majority, and a constitutional majority, despite the fact that... we like to criticize one sometimes one on the airwaves and even in the hall of the parliament, but well, everyone supports those pro-state decisions that are needed, especially as regards the military topic, it seems to me that 95% of them are accepted by the constitutional majority, so i would close this topic on that, and if you want proof of my words, that is definitely not a strong point. in the numbers of the head of the coalition, remember his own forecast for when the law on mobilization will be introduced, let me remind you, it was on january 25,

but victoria mentioned that the bill was introduced only on january 30, so do not contact attention, believe me, save more nerves and strength. thank you, mr. nikita, but, well, i... i will say that i have not seen these 17 statements, i think that in principle, if they exist, then no one except davyd georgiyovych has seen them either. well, in principle, i agree with my colleagues that if people even begin to compose their powers of their own accord, then the parliament is not threatened with a crisis of existence as such, yes, well, because really, that means... well, majoritarians, if will leave the parliament, yes, it is unpleasant, because the majority there is no one to replace, if the list-makers, then it is clear that the list is simply moving forward and the problem

is solved, well, i better tell you , then such a conversation, in which i took part so recently, then this does not, does not apply at all, means davyd georgiyovych and 17 statements, i won't even say who was involved in that conversation, and it 's not a hint that arahami was there, but the conversation was about this, i think you'll understand that, well, actually, we really , as yaroslav said now, we very often adopt very good laws with a constitutional majority when we agree, we generally have 300 plus on the scoreboard there, and according to the calculations there, our public analytical centers there, we have many reform laws, really good ones, those that are there and european integration and... there are macro-financial and so on, but none of us does not like, well, in general, that means everyone, well , in social networks, that means they are training, who

will say worse about the deputies there, we are all thieves, we all, therefore, do nothing, we all need to go to the front, the conversation was exactly that about the fact that no one advocates for us, then we adopt good laws, which means together with western partners, well, even if someone says a good word about the parliament, it means that, in principle, all experts of ukrainian society say... that yes, they have good laws, indeed, they are good people there, but somehow civil society does not protect us very much , the media, so, well, too , so it seems that parliamentarians are not so well protected, all of them, no, no, no, it doesn’t matter which faction, but if they would, then they would imagine that tomorrow the parliament will simply be offended and disperse, and they will remain without a parliament, which means he is on his own with a government and a president. we don't have anyone else in the parliament, well, there was such a thing, it means, well , really with humor, it means, well, a conversation about , you know, that means a network, a network

assumption, that means that. uh, a thought experiment, so, you know, here in reality , if we talk about the parliamentary crisis, then i would speak exclusively from this angle, yes, because victoria is not entirely right, in every parliament there are people who work there are not many, i am, for example, with the law i worked with my colleagues on religious organizations on saturday and sunday, the last ones, so that means, well, that is, well... who will be submitted to the court of appeals,

there are many laws and zavitnevich. and there are also laws on makrafin, so , well, listen, we have, well, really, we, we all work together to develop many, many useful laws, i compare it with the last convocation, sorry, you weren’t there, we worked on evasion, you in the last convocation, there was a push-button system, but we don’t have it in our joint convocation, which means that the efficiency is a bit low, maybe due to the lack of a button , dasta suffers, but nevertheless, i see that... work, well, in session mode, everything is fine, look, this, i do not think that this is a change, because according to the totality of the days that we work , it actually corresponds to the pre-war period, that is, vzali, but, but what am i talking about, a person who was in both convocations, we are all living people, and we work, and it does not matter who is in the opposition, who is in power, we, we we really do, well, a lot of useful things and... which

are necessary, we as living people would like someone to give us a good word from time to time he said about us, we will not get such a thing, well, this is boxing, mr. nikita , we have to finish our program, i have to say kind, kind words to you, but look, these are the espresso tv channels , probably the only tv channel where representatives of all factions have gathered , well, the main factions, both pro-government and opposition. and they can discuss, but we were thrown out of t2, that is, two years ago, no one wants to return, we do not understand what is happening at all, yesterday journalists met with the ambassadors of the big seven, talked about what is happening in state, in your absolute capacity to protect journalists, do your best , show that ukraine is a democratic state, do everything so that journalists

have access to... the supreme council of ukraine, to deputies, to decisions, then we will say that we really have wonderful deputies and we can speak well of them. nikita poturaev, yaroslav zheleznyak, victoria syumar were guests of our program today. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. during our program, we conducted a survey, we asked you about the following: do you trust the diligent? 94% yes, 6%? no , it's on the air on youtube, 96% don't trust even four, that's the ratio of numbers, i put a full stop on it, this is the verdict program of serhii ordenko, i'll say goodbye to you until tomorrow at 20:00, goodbye.