bodies after the meeting of the latter with the president of the decree and the decision of the nsdc, er, all the necessary commands were given and suspended, well , the arbitrariness, let's say , that was taking place, was suspended, but the term of this, this suspension, it is defined in the decree, it is even 3 months , therefore, both yesterday and the day before yesterday, there were a lot of meetings with representatives of the cabinet of ministers, the office of the president of the nsdc at different levels of different groups of specialists who decided what we should do in time in these three months so that this, let's say , tame mode, when it ends, to already a more or less normal system of power came into operation. the first decisions were made yesterday, yesterday, you know that it was submitted to the parliament as an urgent threat from the president. project in order to

resolve those issues regarding profit after all, er, which was prohibited by the enterprise, all forms of ownership, to have a profit during the execution of defense orders. well, my view, as it was and remains, is that no laws are needed , the law on defense procurement clearly states that the customer has the right to state, if there is a justification, to revise the price, as in increasing as well as decreasing. and the executor of the defense order also has the right to submit proposals for a justified increase or decrease, well , the situation has already reached such a dead end that they decided that it should be done again by law, well, that's good, i guess. yesterday there was a meeting with the first deputy prime minister of ukraine, minister of economy yulia sviridenko, and it was also agreed that the government will look at the form of standard contracts with the ministry of defense. eh, in

which eh do not have these clauses. in addition, a lot of issues were discussed. you too you know that yesterday the government considered at its meeting three decisions that simplify the work related to the purchase of drones, regarding the import of components for the mines that are currently being shown on your screen. yesterday, it was decided that all business entities can import the assembly solution according to the simplified procedure. forms of ownership for all types of ammunition, this is a very positive decision, which will lead to a reduction of time there by three to six, sometimes even nine months, that is why certain movements have begun, but all these movements, if we don't change the paradigm in 3 months, what do i mean by changing the paradigm? we already have the task of adopting the law on the defense industry from 20 there on the 10th, we have three projects in the verkhovna rada, on the 13th,

2013, 2017, 2000 and on the 20th, it seems, they all froze there and are in the verkhovna rada. yesterday, we discussed at the meeting of the federation of employers of ukraine and came up with the initiative that all these projects should be raised, uh, also take the translated text of the law of the united states of america on this matter and make, well... without inventing a normal law, bills and submitting it, mr. vitaly, i will interrupt you a little, i understand a little that you are talking about important legislative things, but when we go down to the sinful ground, what is happening now with our defense industry, in particular private industry, do we have orders from our manufacturers, are they three-year orders, are there funds in the ministry of defense in order to pay, pay for the products that are happening here, you raise absolutely

valid questions, i just started with legislative initiatives and come down, let's say, as you say , to the ground, unfortunately, unfortunately, there are no three-year contracts, yesterday we also discussed everything that if they do not appear and everything is managed in manual mode, then nothing good will happen further. unfortunately, whether to buy imported or domestic products depends on the official, until now, on... well, yesterday , using the example of fire engines, for example, it was considered that we have our own manufacturers, three companies have produced a sufficient number of fire engines, but some official there says: why do i need domestic ones, i will buy imported ones there, etc it should not be, we must at the legislative level, at the level of government decisions , prohibit officials from unilaterally canceling, by the way, it was contracted, but changed the procurement plan and says... that we do not

need, unfortunately, unfortunately, money for the preparation of the production of armed military equipment, which is included in the budget, is not... allocated to private companies at all, from the word at all, it is very, very, very bad, why are they not allocated, well, because the ministry has live people working, and they they say as soon as we allocate money something to private companies, law enforcement officers come to us, and we return to where we seem to have started, they initiate criminal cases against us, against officials, although there is no legal restriction on whether to allocate funds to state or private, resulting in inefficient use of public funds. why is it ineffective? you know all these statistical figures. the head of ukroboronprom stated that in the 23rd year there was an increase of 62%. he is telling the truth,

but this is an increase in the state part, which is subordinate to ukroboron prom. by the way, no one says that in this 62% of growth, 90% is... the complicity of the co-executives of private enterprises, at the same time the minister says that there was a 300% growth there, and he is telling the truth, why is he telling the truth, because all other growth is the private sector, and at the same time, this very ministry allocates funds for the preparation of production only to the public sector, that's what i mean by inefficiency, we proposed, we even prepared a draft resolution of the verkhovna rada to. .. oblige the cabinet of ministers proportionally allocate funds to the private sector. the second thing is that we proposed that the money be allocated by example, for example, if not in the defense industry, in the defense industry. it seems that our country is not at war now, and everything

is working in the agrarian-industrial complex, everyone knows what to do, how to do it, in the defense-industrial complex, as if we live in another country. i remind you, well, at the age of 15, in the agricultural industry. complex takes place as follows: the government and the ministry of agrarian policy define priorities, for example, there are granaries, or refrigerators, or vegetable storages, or there are some gardens, and allocate funds for the development of this direction, how is this done? the private sector builds the facilities, after he has built them, put them into operation, a stone arrives... checks what he has done, well, for example, a refrigerator, or planted an apple tree in the garden, checked, checked his expenses, put signatures and compensated 70% from the state budget, where it has been working for 15 years, it is cool, we say, why does it work in the agricultural

sector and cannot in the defense sector, and it will remove responsibility from the specific an official in the ministry, because he is really afraid, because they come to him immediately and say: oh, why did you give him money, and not give him money? well, we have such a legal system , such a legal culture, that our law enforcement agencies believe that if money is given to a private company, then it is bad, and if it is a state one, then it is good, although it is not effective at all, well, then a situation arises that relatively speaking, now, as i understand it, there are currently no orders from the private defense industry, they fulfill annual contracts at best last year, and now this procurement procedure. changes, but we see that the emphasis will still be on the narrow neck through ukroboromprom, and everything will be concentrated there. no, i wouldn't say that , i repeat, i say that there are no three-year contracts, there are short-term contracts, both in the private sector and in the public sector,

but you yourself understand that in order to make a decision, invest funds , you need to have some kind of business plan and the equipment is economical. and well, there are no such profits in the defense industry, it is not drug trade there, yes, what did you invest money today in the series for the preparation of serial production and it paid off in a year, the payback terms are not invested in three years, they are invested there in 5-7 years, but in our country today there is a system fully formed by the laws of ukraine, which is possible to sign three-year contracts, we ask, let's go ahead. for example, for weapons samples that are adopted for service, i emphasize, not those that are just being developed, because there are, well, certain doubts, let's say, from the customers, that it will be of high quality and something else, well, for example, btr-4, ukrainian armored personnel carrier, adopted into service, our general staff

knows for 20 years ahead how many armored personnel carriers it needs in four, why there is no three-year contract, and by the way, mr. general zaluzhnyi, i respect him, well, like our entire country. and i love it, but i also have a question for him, as for the head of the general staff: where is the order from you for 3 years for the btr-4? is only for a year, and this is exactly the responsibility of the general staff. of ukraine, not the ministry of defense. when we come to the officials of the ministry of defense, they say: "guys, we have it a computer, paper" and a pen or pencil, everything else is what the general staff requires of us, well, then it's more a question of what we need for three years, we'll buy, it's more of a matter of whispering than of useful from the point of view of how to plan all the needs and purchases for a certain period of time, mr. sergey, look, you know these generals, i know them a little, well, well, we won’t teach them with you

how to communicate with each other and which of them should do what, their tasks, so that the ministry of defense has a need for three years formed, at least on the samples of weapons adopted for armament, the same anti-tank missiles, the same missiles there neptune, the same, i can enumerate ad infinitum, everything adopted for armament, they have calculations for peacetime, for... .. offensive, for defense, whatever, they can provide these needs, unfortunately, either the ministry of defense lies and says that they do not have them, or the general staff does not provide. mr. vitaly, thank you for your explanations, it was expressive, dynamic, but we did not discuss everything, i think that we will still be able to in the following inclusions to return to other important points related to the development of our defense industry, i will remind our viewers that i agree. was vitaly nemylostivy, head of the all-ukrainian union of employers of machine builders of ukraine.

so, what are the conclusions of the technological vision expressed by general zaluzhnyk, which involves the creation of new approaches at the expense of a significant number of robotic platforms of various purposes, new approaches to their application in order to reduce the burden on personnel, which is currently lacking on the line front, but there are everyday needs from the point of view of manufacturing armored vehicles, ammunition, and others. another part of which can be done by our domestic defense industry, but there are also certain disadvantages associated with the lack of long-term orders that do not allow to ensure the purchase of equipment, the scaling of products at the expense of this equipment, and this also creates challenges in order to our defense was strengthened precisely at the expense of our own capabilities. i think that all these challenges should be taken into account by the ministry of defense and the general staff, and by other bodies, or... our defenses were stronger, and the potential of our defense industry was developing at a rapid pace.

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congratulations, this is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel, together with beraber, in which we talk about the problems of the occupied crimea so far. my name is khrystyna yatskiv and i congratulate my co-host, ayder muzhdabayev. salam alaikum, salam alaikum. christina hanam. well we will definitely mention in this program about the successes of the defense forces on the territory of the crimea this week about what happened in bilbek and how our huriv people managed to sink the ivanovts missile boat, but first of all, we must note that it is very important that our people and all of us together support the defense forces of ukraine

in every way and with donations, in particular, especially if we want in our lives. to see the liberation of the so far occupied crimea. thank you christ for such important words. indeed, we are working not only to inform you promptly about the events in the occupied crimea and around crimea at the front, but also to help the unit that consists of crimeans, ukrainians, people who are very dear to crimea, who are fighting in the southern direction, exactly in this direction in which we are moving. everyone is in the direction of the liberation of crimea, so i convey to you a big thank you for the support from the fighters and commanders of the 48th separate assault battalion named after naman chelovydzhan of the armed forces of ukraine, and i invite you during this program, or when you watch it in the recording, to scan the qr- code and pay for the collection of 50 fpv night drones

with thermal imaging cameras, which are now in the country necessary for boys. there at the front, the collection continues, not even half of it has been collected yet, and i want to somehow help as soon as possible, so join us, we will be grateful to you for watching us, for helping those thanks to whom you watch us, thank you, yes, well , let's start our program with what i think are very eloquent photos, on thursday, february 1 , the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zalozhny visited the office of the mizheles of the crimean tatar people for the first time. ahtem cheygos was the first to report this. majalis was visited by the commander-in-chief of the zsu zaluzhny, defense minister rustem umerov. together with akhtem cheygodz, they were met by the ex-chieftain mustafa dzhemiliv. we invited commander-in-chief valery zaluzhnyi. he has not yet been to our office, so we were waiting for him to have such an opportunity and were very happy to meet him in medjalis,

he says. the photos, in my opinion, look absolutely beautiful. today, by the way, we have the opportunity to talk about this with rifat chubarov a little later, but before that i would like to remind you that a whole series of statements by our military were related to crimea this of the week, in particular kyrylo budanov, distributing comments to various media, including ukrainian ones, answering the question, what is the fate of the crimean bridge, once again confirmed that he has had enough of burning, it is time for him to simply cease his existence, and actually, can we draw a conclusion from this . that the attention of our military is now concentrated in the direction of the south of our country and, in particular, we will see what concerns bilvek and ivan. about which we promised to tell you, i would even say so, to systematize a little all that happened, well, first of all, the airfield in

bilbeku is not an ordinary place, it is a radar town, in addition to being an airfield, where the defense forces managed to eliminate several russian fighters, at least damage them so precisely, in addition, radar installations that interfere with work. our beautiful ukrainian and partner missiles on the territory of the occupied crimea so far, there are liquidated russian military, there is even cautious information that we may have managed to liquidate such a russian general alexander tatarenko. we do not take this information on faith yet, because the russian media are reporting on her, but i think that the main intelligence agency is currently investigating all this information, and...

to be honest, but i think this is in honor of the city of ivanovo, that’s for sure, i honestly wasn’t interested, a man from ivanovo, a man from ivanovo , the city is on land, there was no need to go to the water, don’t go to the water, stay at home, well, it’s like such a morality, but seriously, then... we see an emphasis on the crimea, and by the way, about the zaluzhnevs and about the crimea, in that book, parts of which have already been made public, so you read it, it is a book by a showman, it is called a book by an american journalist, remind me of the name simon shoster, i saw him a couple of times, he seems to have taken me once, a very interesting book, i did not get my hands on this book, to be honest, i am waiting for one of my own. a colleague who will bring her abroad, we read, we read excerpts, in the ukrainian prada, for example, i read, there it is interesting, it turns out that valery zaluzhnyi was

in favor of striking the russians first, not in the direction of kharkiv, that is, east -northeast, in the direction of crimea, but something went wrong, well, we will not get into military and political issues there, we are not we know, but he himself... the fact that the general is determined to direct a blow to crimea in the direction of liberating crimea is symbolic, just as it is symbolic that he visited the midjlis, the leader of the crimean tatar people, people's deputy mustafa dzhemileev, i honestly do not know , whether they knew each other before or not, and i mean personally, but i know that valery zaluzhnyi is very positive. but he treats the crimean people, crimea, and they saw, yes, it’s not there anymore, it’s not just like that, i’ll explain to those who don’t know, he was in yes, the cap is so

national, crimean, the cap has a name, and more a dagger was given as a gift, well, our armed forces shoot down daggers, well, i mean a missile, and the dagger is in our hands. that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine means that everything is moving in the right direction, well, at least he wants it, and the support of valery zaluzhny from the mijlis, from mustafa dzhemilev, a legendary world-famous person from the defense minister, who together visited the middle of the forest, with him, it’s also very nice to see, it’s important, and now i’m told... the director, who is already our guest on the wire, as he says les poderevyanskyi, and this is yuriy ignat. mr. yuriy, congratulations, the spokesman

of the air force command is joining our conversation today to summarize the work of the defense forces, at least from the air, in crimea. congratulations and glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, congratulations. let's sum it up, or pick it up. yes, that's right. mr. yuri, let's go. we will probably start with belbek. there will also be several questions about the boat, in particular, what kind of missiles it launched and which territory it could terrorize with these missiles. but belbek, the airfield, all of us from crimea know well this location and we know exactly how the russians used it recently. well, besides, this historical place is so symbolic, yes, yes, the occupation of crimea actually began with it, yes. so, where do we start, i still do not understand, you are very much. the airport, the airfield, excuse me, and the radar town, er, of course, er, well, you have already seen, social networks and the commander

of the advanced forces immediately reacted to it in a telegram. thanked everyone involved, because bilbek airfield is such a symbolic place for us in lithuania, the airfield in crimea, the sevastopol tactical aviation brigade was based there is the most to blame, it is like that and it remains with it even now, now this brigade has a temporary shelter, i hope in lutsk, our aviators were well received there and it is actually now stationed there, before that it was at the airfield of the mykolayiv region, at the temporary base of the kulbakin airfield, in fact... the planes were transferred little by little by the occupiers from crimea to this brigade and they were restored even today by the planes of the sevastopol tactical aviation brigade they defend the welcome space and strike at the occupiers, well, as the commander wrote, of course the brigade will return to the crimea to its regular base at the bilbek airfield, do you remember cades belbek when our pilots and aviators left. marched in

a convoy with machine guns pointed at them, well, such shots flew all over the world, it is clear that, therefore , without a doubt, all objects, in general, the whole of crimea will be returned to ukraine, there are our airfields, the base of air defense, therefore the task of strikes on occupiers on their sore spots is definitely the key before that, before the liberation of crimea, destroy the enemy's logistics, do not build command posts. in general, all logistics, preferably the crimean bridge , of course, well, then the issue would be resolved much faster, for this we need means, means that are transferred to us by partners, you see that several more beautiful things have been announced that can reach far, this is actually those e bombs, forgot the abbreviation, what's it called there, that can fly, yes justb, oh see, you already know, fly a long

distance, actually attacking by ballistic territories that will, well, simply destroy the equipment, and all these objects, which i said , additional means of long years, these are atakans, and cruise missiles, and here are these bombs, this is what needs to be done, first of all, logistics, supplies enemy, i hope that the f-16s that will come to ukraine will be able, uh, well, they won't be able to, they will definitely be able to, we, we hope that they will move to ukraine as soon as possible, help them all with the air too, ah. .. well, i think, recently the other day, victoria nuland was talking about these rockets, right, mr. yuriy, well, these are bombs, yes, they are bombs that are launched from ground installations, there are also french means, also such hybrid bombs that can also be launched from official means, so if ukraine will receive all these things in the necessary quantity, you will understand correctly , that the whole world is standing in line for

these technological ones. the world is now burning in different places, you see, the situation is worsening in general on the whole continent, that is why high-precision weapons are in demand in many countries of the world, as well as f-16 planes, you think, we are the first in line behind them, far from being the first and not only for the planes themselves, for the weapons, for the instructors who will retrain the pilots of these or other countries, these are all currently in short supply, so ukraine is doing everything, our military and political leadership, well, everyone... they are marching in unison in order to achieve the goals that we have set, and those who are now starting to disperse some incomprehensible betrayals and so on in social networks, and to comment on what they do not understand and do not know, i want to say do not interfere, we are going that way the path that has long been chosen, the priority plane f16 will be it is still possible that some decisions will be made regarding the gripin, when sweden makes such a choice, and

therefore we will do everything so that the pilots who have already mastered the erks in the air appeared with us and did not just appear, but began to beat as soon as possible. mr. yury, a bit not about crimea, but about the air force, this scandal is very strange about australian planes, you, you commented on it, i know, but maybe i commented, come on, maybe i will kill you right away, i did not comment, ugh, my comments are pulled from some leftist pages, boxed in, where i... harshly react to those here, how to say it more culturally on your broadcast, here, to those people who are engaged in this peresambulation, the topic is old, the topic of a year ago, why is it being dragged out now even by the australian publication , why are we bringing it up, i say once again, we decided a long time ago on the priority of aircraft, a multi-purpose aircraft capable of performing tasks in the air, capable of hitting ground targets and controlling the airspace over water areas, both my f-16s

are suitable for this. and there are places to take it, and these are the most realistic.