and you went to the defense of the city of mariupol to the azomash plant with your unit. those terrible circumstances separated them. after the second attempt on the night of april 12, alina and her unit broke through to azovstal, where they were under constant fire for a week. at that time, ilya was already holding the defense at the ilyich plant. at the moment when i turned on the phone, ilya called. he said he was fine. am i okay, because we didn't know where we were, well, we didn't understand where we were at all. on april 15, the commander in the bunker informed us, that our unit was captured on the territory of ilyich. the guys who were with us , they, you could say, had a little panic, but then we sat down, thought among ourselves, talked and... and everyone

agreed, they were forced to surrender, because there was no other way out in we weren't there, and if we hadn't surrendered, i probably wouldn't be sitting here right now. ilya and other prisoners were held for several days in a colony in donetsk region, in sertan, then in olenivka, then sent by military cargo plane to the territory of the russian federation, where ilya spent the next 20 months will be in the kostroma colony. oblast, from that moment, well, so to speak, the next day, the interrogations began, all their, so to speak, procedures that they carry out with prisoners there began, we were fingerprinted, photographed a lot, we were not involved in any work, absolutely, we just sat for half 30 minutes , stood for 30 minutes, walked around... in the cell they gave us

books, we read, the books were in russian, yes, of course, about the second world war, the first world war, there about hitler , fascism, stalin, lenin, if they gave me food, but of course, that wasn't enough, that you were eating, eating, eating all the time, and here... such a moment, it was all taken away from you, but you understand that you simply won't get it anymore, and if you eat, what do you have, and somehow we tried like this, someone had uh, for example, there is less porridge there, we have a spoon each, we would give two spoons each to the boys, whoever had less, well, so we shared bread and tea among ourselves , already on may 17 in...

alina panina was captured by the russians, they did not know about each other's fate, the girl left azovstal together with dogs with which she fell into the hands of the occupiers. after i was brought to the colony in volenivka, they told me to tie them in such a place where they make walks for prisoners, i tied them to a bench to... my peacoat, took off my military jacket and laid them, they sat down, i kissed them, and that was the last time i saw them at all, after which, when i was there in captivity for four months, i every morning about 8:00 in the morning and at 10 in the evening i heard, how they bark, i asked a question when we were taken out of the deer park, why don't they give me the dogs , they said, at the next stage you can...

throw them away, well, theirs was like that, and after that they took us out and i understood what they were talking about, because they put us on planes, the military, well these were cargo planes used to transport equipment, after that we had our hands tied and blindfolded, so i could not physically take the dogs with me, in october 2022 the border guard returned them.

i don't remember what he was doing, and i, i greeted him, i told him, dad, hello, he got better, he didn't recognize me for so much. time, and i say, dad, it's me, ilya, i say, we were exchanged, everything is fine, i say, i'm alive and healthy, and of course he started having tantrums there, and the second question i had was, where is lina, because i'm for her i didn't know anything at all, no information, nothing, and he told me, he says that alina has been at home for a year, i buried alina, so to speak, many times, because i... i didn't know if she was alive, but since we were told there in captivity that the asovstals were razed to the ground there, and knowing that alina was there, such thoughts came to me, but i tried to drive them away, i made a second call to olina, the phone rang, i looked, it was an unfamiliar number, well, i didn’t know

who was calling, i didn’t really want to even pick up the phone, but somehow my hand reached out, maybe i picked up the phone, i hear him... i couldn't even hear the words in my voice at all, because i was in such a state of shock. already on the morning of january 4, 2024 , alina and his parents met ilya in kyiv. they did not recognize the boy. looking and seeing how different theirs are captives from us who leave and our captives who come from there. by yourself, by yourself. yes , in terms of how they are not, they are not fed normally, they are washed normally, dressed normally, and you just look at them, you lost 18, 20, 50 kg, and

how did the boys lose weight, but they were like that, how did they stay like that , they will not even say that they were in captivity, as such a structure of the red cross, i only heard about it. i will say that we do not need such structures at all, because they do not help in any way and do not give any confirmation that people in prisoners, from whom they take them, they give confirmation only when the prisoners are already leaving the colonies, and they already know the information about where they are and where they were when they came to olenivka, they were not hidden in us, women, they were hidden from of the red cross, they did not come to us for some time. well , humanitarian aid was not given to us from him, from the red cross, although it was there, maybe it was, because the boys only came with ordinary soap from the red cross and that was all. the couple admits that the occupiers hid that ukrainian prisoners were being taken for exchange,

neither ilya nor alina knew until the end that they would return home. i tell the guys, guys, where we 've come, well, what's going on, and they too. they say , ulya, we came for an exchange, but i still didn't believe it, because there was already so much time to stay in captivity, and well, if you had, of course, i hoped, believed, but i just imagined it in a completely different way, not wrong , as it happened, when they are transported, do you think at all that this is a stage, a normal stage, that they transport you from... colony to colony, you only know when you are already at the exchange, when you either see your representatives from some of our structures, or you already hear them when they tell you: we welcome you to ukraine, every day we were told that nobody needs us, that everyone has forgotten about us, as such, ukraine no longer exists,

because poland took all of western ukraine, it held a referendum, and we already belong to poland, well, that is, all of... western ukraine, and up to kiev, this is the entire territory , they took it for themselves. ilya and alina say that life has taught them to live one day at a time, so now they try to spend time together as much as possible, and their new four-legged pets help them to forget the horror they experienced and they believe that they will definitely see jesse and sonya again someday. to be honest, when i came home and they gave me a dog. i just hugged her and i didn't need pills, well, a person gets used to it and what hurts her helps her, yes, well, i was in pain for the dogs, for ilya, i was given a dog, i just hugged her, i slept with her, and she walked during the day and walked at night,

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ordered somewhere from europe, china or somewhere else, but a drone made in lviv, by the way, and the ulas master, please demonstrate, show, spin, tell how much time, how much effort , people, what process is needed in order to make such a drone in the lviv workshop, and i understand that it is not specialists, not engineers who do it, but lawyers, well... the workshop there is unique, that there is not a single engineer there, there are lawyers, managers, logisticians, there are several people, of course from it, but it is more like engineering, but... more like programming, and it is quite multifaceted, so the people we would have there if maybe lift it up a little bit so we can show them to the audience, so it 's a ten inch drone, usually the gradation for drones that are currently working on the front line is in inches, inches gives it

a general idea of ​​its size, its capabilities in terms of... lifting a load and already speeds and range of operation, it must be said that the largest number of drones are the so-called small drones, seven-inch ones, which are now supplied by various volunteer groups, small production or medium-type production, we immediately abandoned them and decided in this style or in the spirit of the fund, go more technologically. way and first of all set for themselves more difficult tasks to make 8 9 10 inches to make a start from these drones and because it gives the opportunity to first increase the distance of this drone's operation, the idea is to climb the occupier for the skin in quotes saying to be

unexpected be unexpected. at the expense of distance, at the expense of a certain speed, the second, and perhaps the most important, is the preservation of the lives of our operators, our servicemen, various units, and this includes both intelligence and certain mortar groups, because the drone itself does not work, and it is clear that this is a large operator, only one, but we, in principle, somehow the guys came to us with one such... a rather powerful landing brigade , we counted for ourselves how many people were involved in order to there was a hit there from the moment of production , from 36 to 40 people, well, from the moment of the drone’s production to the moment of the hit, and maybe a couple of technical parameters, because here we are a bit like oksana drone operators, so forced by force by virtue of our profession, and i am still

interested in how such a drone works, as i understand it, the military uses it, it hits targets, negates the occupiers and their equipment, without an engineer, how can it be manufactured? maybe when roman and i leave the studio, we can try to make such drones somewhere in the evening, draw everything from you and make it ourselves, there are two things that are basically such a driver of progress. stepan andriyovych wrote and said that nothing can stop an idea whose time has come, and this was truly an internal slogan without pathos, do we go into the topic of manufacturing drones or do we stay aside and continue to engage in technological shooting, well , there are other directions that there is, and the second thing, there is also such a well-known proverb that according to the laws of aerodynamics, a bumblebee cannot fly, but he does not know about it, that is why he flies, with this weekend we came first of all to get

knowledge for ourselves, we understood that this is a modular production, and if modular. then a certain specialization or qualification can be acquired already in the process of this modular production, of course, there was a selection of people who will devote a lot of time to self-study, and then in the further creation of drones, such a team in our country was rebuilt brick by brick, assembled, these are self-sufficient people , each of which took took a certain link and started to research it, started to become perfect in it, and actually it affects the assembly of drones, sir yuri, here are a few questions, so that people who have not encountered this can also understand, and we have also clarified something for ourselves, look, having such a drone in our hands, we understand that it will become half a drone after

how a certain ammunition will be attached there, they explained to us what... means, for example, production, well, well, not factory, but the kind that collects small ones, the main thing is that there is an opportunity for this supply to withstand it, b, so that, i do not know who is responsible for this, that when the stock was attached and transferred to the combat formation, so that it does not fumble, as they say, in the hands of the operator, even before he took off, and three - this is a battery with which he needs, for example, in the cold and wind to overcome from. one of the key elements of the operation of the drone , quite often, even in our country , unfortunately, among volunteer groups, i meet... many drones that, for which the battery is not declared at all, and this does not give an understanding of what this drone is capable of, what tasks can be set for it, we

are looking for battery elements all over the world, the last time we were shopping in holland, one the item costs us €5.8 in purchase. and in order for this dozen to fly, it is necessary to put such 18 elements, that is, it speaks about the cost price, if not... do not exchange, do not look for cheap analogues that cannot withstand the load, which can really become harmful to the work of the group of operators of our guys on the front line, because there is not much time for experiments or tests there, that is, the guys either tested it the day before, or we did it in the workshop, or a double test took place, and then there is a guarantee that this drone will fly and the target will be amazed, quite often small master volunteer groups make mistakes due to optimization, when optimization is a sacrifice of quality, the sacrifice or quality is

optimization, so it will be more accurate so that it does not fumble in the hands, everyone, you understand, there are initialization boards that are put on the ammunition itself, as a rule , access to these boards is limited, and rightly so, that is, you do not have it. "if necessary, we can have it, but we don't have it, and well , experiments, say, with the explosive itself, we also do not conduct in any way, first of all, this the issue of safety, the issue of responsibility for other people, for everyone who is involved in the creation of a drone, and first of all, this is not a matter for civilians, it is already a matter for professional military personnel who have access to those explosive materials and substances that can be stored, used, application by civilians, therefore initialization fees, if they need to be obtained for a certain unit, we

find a manufacturer, we make a payment for this unit to make these fees, well, unfortunately, we do not yet have such expert knowledge to say affirmatively, what we will make this board ourselves, but if the task is like this, i am sure that we will make it, besides, this is a certain technological, high-tech process, this is also worth remembering, if i am not mistaken, you started manufacturing in september, to fully launch the production of these drones, how many in these four, five almost months, five months have you produced, transferred to the front and that the military, they have already tested them, used them in combat, how they are characterized, what they say about them, we actually had such difficult stages the formation of such a... stubble that will steadily and systematically release drones to the front, which will work well not for photographs, not for whatever the number is, according to

the task that we set for ourselves, and i, as the head of the fund, set, the better we let's make a conditional 30 drones a month, but high-tech ones that work at a long distance, than 100 drones for a picture or for the number, we will just pay attention now, this is the work of one of the very. of the powerful uav strike brigade in ukraine, the distance between the operator and the drone and hitting this dugout almost 20 km, that is, 19 or so, for this there are a number of other prerequisites, starting from the weather, and the repeater that the guys have, other auxiliary equipment, they are all very important for such a hit from was here where...

the video was sent by the guys themselves, allowed for publication, and for possible technical feedback, and we constantly keep this feedback with all groups, so this data is reliable, that is , we can use operations on them, what is a hit just happened one is yours video, and from the guys, and it was so normal there, that is, it is ready to carry a serious charge, but we are talking about, let's say, here we expect this drone to have a working weight of 3 kg, and the distance that it should carry 3 kg at least 10 km, we loaded 5 kg in various tests, in various variants, and certain... if it is necessary, this drone will carry such a load, mr. yuriy, we have to take a short break, but we will continue and come back, and actually we will talk more about that , whether such a small

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production. so how many of these drones can your small team of people make in a month, and can your experience be spread across the country, i think there are many such groups like-minded people, urged everyone to do this at home , but here we are talking about the fact that not at home, in the workshop, this is what happens in the workshop , is it possible to spread it in order to disrupt this production and at the same time, so that there is a mass, we summarized the results of january with our workshop , the hall to the front for... this year we sent 150 drones, and this is an extraordinary amount for a small fund, we honestly did not expect it ourselves, because this process, it is constantly dynamic, and we do not calculate like that on a daily basis , that is, we operate more there with others criteria, let's say, secondly, it should be spread, but it should be spread precisely in the format of small workshops.