there will be a lot of talk about how they pushed our troops to a great distance, they advanced almost 20 km there, they will necessarily count square meters, tell how much territory they liberated and so on, well, this is what they like to do, although as a matter of fact, any army would do it, because there is no point in being down there, why do we still need to hold avdiivka, because the enemy is throwing a large amount of manpower and equipment there, well, you already said that they need it before the elections.. to show the so-called elections of president putin on march 15-17 any progress on the front line, well, this is such a deadline, well, most likely they will want to do it at the beginning of march, so that there are several days or weeks to spread this information through their media channels, this is the third deadline that they have already put on avdiivka for the past six months, because starting from october 10, they set a deadline of december 14, october 10 will pass... a year until

december 14, just when putin's press conference was held, where he said that he would run, well, run for president, then the second deadline was until january 1 until the end of the year, and now it is the third deadline, they suffer heavy losses there, and the task of any army during a war is to destroy the enemy's army, and we succeed there, well, we can see what losses they lost in the avdiiv direction from october 10 of last year to today lost more manpower than the soviet union. for the entire afghan war, that is, for 10 years of the war , the soviet union lost approximately 14,500 servicemen, near avdiivka, the russians already lost 17,000 servicemen, that is , incomparable losses, insane losses for the russians, but if there is a political basis, of course they will not stop and will continue to throw storm z, storm b. from the north, from the south, the people of donetsk, the donetsk people's republic, their armed forces, well, the so -called donetsk people's republic, are attacking there.

there is the spartak battalion , the battalion named after the roasted rooster and so on, that is, these units are conducting combat operations there, that is why these people have a particularly great desire to destroy these troops, so we will stand there as long as there is an opportunity to keep the momentum there and destroy the enemy, other tasks there no, and the russians of course, on the contrary, because this month will definitely be extremely stressful, especially for odeivka, well, by the way, dokupin doku. well, at least they announced that these are the two directions, they should release, as they say, before the beginning, before the presidential elections, before the voting already , let's put it this way, and there will be very powerful offensive actions both there and there, well, what will they succeed , well, we'll see, but we must remember that, first of all, we have a shortage of shells, hunger fighters, and not such a large number of military personnel. compared to

the russians, who have so far everything there is enough equipment, and shells, and cartridges , and people, and well, people are not just enough, there are an insane number of them, let's remember that now in the russian-ukrainian war there is almost half a million and a half million russian army, so in compared to our military personnel, those who hold the defense, well, it is many times more, many times more russians, well, tell me how and... if we are now talking about what, well, we are talking about the fact that it is necessary to somehow strengthen the ukrainian armed forces forces precisely at these key points in avdiivka, that is, it is not a matter of to somehow move away from there and it will solve something, it will not solve any issue , of course, but if we talk about strengthening, what can this strengthening be, that is, what should there be, because there were and are well-equipped positions, after all still.

there is a fairly high saturation of drones, of course there are not many drones here, but nevertheless there are a lot of them, objectively speaking, what else could be done to make such breakthroughs impossible, or at least when they became possible, it is enough knock out quickly from there the russians, well, first of all, we have certain reserves, that is, we did not use all the reserves that are in the interior of the country, well, it is obvious, if we used them. all reserves, then this would be an extremely dangerous situation. we are tightening the reserves on some areas in the klupyansk direction, the reserves are tightened. there is no open information about whether the reserves are being pulled up to avdiivka, but i am sure that little by little our garrison is being settled there, what needs to be done in order to hold the enemy, well, you know, these are quite simple answers, but that is the difficulty that are so simple...

the answers are not theirs to provide solutions to such questions, seemingly simple at first glance, well , it is extremely difficult, sometimes almost impossible, that it is necessary, first of all,... it is necessary to build, it would be necessary to build, powerful fortifications where we can , well, the first, second line, if the first line broke through so that we could retreat to the second or third line, the russians had time to do it while we were preparing our spring offensive, the summer, or rather it became, during the spring and summer of last year, they built , we remember, we remember these lines of sorovikin, these two the first, third, second line of defense, and they built not about... they created trenches and put dragon teeth, they built reinforced concrete structures there, that is, there are dugouts that are two, even three stories underground, there are many underground communications, that is, they made powerful, er, if i am not mistaken, i may be slightly wrong in the number, but they

made something about 600 km of trenches and they did not just dig them with a tractor, but made them equipped, that is, with pillboxes, with reinforced concrete and with very good fortified e. trenches, well, those cities where they have to conduct defense, unfortunately, we have such powerful fortifications behind avdiivka, behind kupinsky, well , we did not have time to make them so powerful, and we did not have the opportunity, equipment, such a number of people to be able to do it, there is something, there are some fortifications, but they are inferior to the russian ones, and therefore, well, we have to, while there is time, while... we hold on to kupinsk and to the near kupinsky and near avdeivka, and we understand that if the russians are sent, we will have to leave, well there must be somewhere to go, we hope, i hope that it is now it is done, what else is needed, well, more people are needed,

because in addition to weapons, there must be people who used these weapons, that is, if the russians are outnumbered multiple times, then in order to gain defense, well... skillfully hold the defense, it is necessary to there were at least, well, if not the same number, then, well, no, there are much fewer of our servicemen than the russian ones, well, a platoon cannot hold the defense if a division is advancing, well, here it is, i’m not saying that there is such a difference, but there in some areas, it is roughly the same, that we still need, we need shells, necessarily, first of all, we need them projectiles to allow for counter-battery, nothing for enemy artillery, and of course, what you said, more drones are needed. more means of radio-electronic warfare, drones cannot yet completely replace artillery, but they could help significantly, and it would be good, of course, well, these are already such great distant prospects, it would be good to have more aviation, we are with f16, but to us very, very much because

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evening, dear viewers. denis, well let's ask you a little bit about what is actually happening near bakhmut, and , well, you know, there were reports at the beginning of the week that there is a little near bohdanivka, they managed to knock out the russians from some positions, but it is not completely clear whether they managed to gain a foothold there , what can you say about it at all, or not. there were some and now there are some advances of ours, if we take it in general, there where our fourth brigade of operational assignment of the line is holding the defense, it is a little bit further north, and in general the entire line the line is somewhat static, like such bridges, for example, the same bohdanivka, they can be considered no longer existing, as well as bang, bang, because it was simply erased, the line itself does not move yet. but in some places the enemy continues to actively concentrate efforts, this is in particular the same bohdanivka, it

is the same klishchiev heights, railway, cheerful and a little higher than the controversial, that is, it is trying to probe the line in those places where it believes that it will succeed quickly , while employing a large number of personnel, this is basically it units of stormz. these are mobilized units, this is some use of armored vehicles from closed firing positions, that is, it does not approach the line of battle, and the same with the massive use of artillery and tactical aviation, why tactical aviation? because every day, according to our calculations, the number of strikes by pubs, cabs, from umpk, as well as strikes with... drones is increasing, the number of drones at the moment on the contact line is very large, both from our

side and from the enemy's side, which gives , for example, certain results, if you take in general, if you take it as a whole, on a certain part of the front, on the bahmut, yes , let’s take, for example, this is the northern flank, in a month our drones, drones of the defense forces took away an entire artillery division, i.e. 18 ... , that is, there are successes, but you can’t give up artillery in general, because it is the main means of supporting the infantry, so... that is, in any case, well, i just thought, you are an artilleryman after all, so you are probably there now with with drones , you compete a little for targets that you can hit, but you know, well, everyone notes what has happened , well, there is definitely a shortage of ammunition , there are all these conversations, and can you somehow compare, maybe

for a slightly longer perspective, if you compare it with the summer... 23rd year with autumn 23 th year, to what extent this projectile hunger is so directly critical, in general, and it grows exponentially, uh, let's put it this way, for example, for defensive actions at the moment, roughly speaking, there are enough shells, plus they are compensated by the same by joint actions with the cutthroats, that is, the percussion companies unmanned systems, but if... all this is added to a certain er-er to a certain pile, let's call it roughly like this, then for tactical actions, for example, the same offensive or repelling certain positions, there, for example, on the front of the battalion, this not enough, the enemy, for example, if we take, for example, the army

of the russian federation, they all have an advantage, they concentrate a very large number. forces and means of fire, artillery, mortars, aviation, drones on certain on certain sections, due to which it is sometimes possible to knock out us from the position, and then these positions are also difficult to return, it happens if they do not have time to rush the infantry there, that is , the main purpose of the lock is to destroy the enemy infantry before it gets close to... to the front edge, but, the war has reached such a stage, if we take the 23rd year, the 22nd, then, every day the number of artillery shots from both sides decreases, the military industry, even of such a large country as russia, is unable at the moment to take such steps to of the number of

shells fired, of which there are 20... shots like this it was last year, if we take the ratio now, it’s somewhere between 3-4 thousand shots from our side and somewhere up to 10,000 shots from the russian side in general, well, it ’s still very big, you know, it’s still a very big advantage they still have , of course, but this is all offset by the use of drones, ugh, that is, it is gradually being phased out. the mass of artillery for point strikes by drones, for which we are gathering, by the way, if there is a studio possibility place a qr code, i will be very grateful, well, if there is one, well, if you give it to us, of course we can also publish it and

join your collection without fail, but now we just draw your attention. that the fourth brigade of the frontier is gathering for drones, and please, friends, find an opportunity, find the fourth brigade in social networks, will join this gathering, because guys, well, in an important direction and on the first line, and well, this is really very necessary, mr. denys , and one more such question, you know, you already started talking about it a little, and about the fact that anyway no way without artillery, but tell me how realistic it is to carry out offensive actions. at least limiting the recapture of certain positions only by using drones and infantry, to what extent can we afford it at all? eh, absolutely realistic , quite realistic, because there are certain cases when an entire platoon stronghold was knocked out with the use of drones and the infantry could enter there without problems, but i still

emphasize that there is no way without artillery, it is a symbiosis of troops, yes same... as reb, same as air defense, same as others the forces and means that are used, the troops cannot fight there purely with infantry and purely with drones, this is a complete set of measures that must be carried out for the offensive, for example, to take the same consolidated stronghold, it is necessary to develop, it is necessary to release the same drones- scouts , see when people come, when they leave, how many of them are there on... stockpiled, when the reserves will arrive, what time is it for the advance of the reserves, fire for the prohibition of advancement, for the prohibition of deployment, here i say, you can’t, you can’t so to speak to say that they took purely infantry, took purely drones and everything, occupied a certain, certain area there, that is, while we do not have that

amount of drones and while we do not have, unfortunately, for the time being, that amount of ammunition to carry out such operations , it is difficult, it is quite difficult. well, i also want mr. and oleksiy to speak as well. in this regard, because look, what concerns this particular direction that denys is talking about, bakhmudskyi, the impression is that at least there, at the moment, neither the russians are particularly capable of conducting offensive actions, nor our the troops cannot conduct offensive actions, and if the russians may have this due to the fact that they are conducting offensive actions in another place, then for us it is primarily not enough, as i understand it, just forces, no artillery. well, there is enough ammunition , but it was very nice to hear a person who directly conducts combat operations in bakhmut, i have been there many times, i am also from the national guard, only from the 27th brigade, i was there

once, smiles immediately, they know what they are talking about, i was in kovchytskyi's battalion as the commander of the fire support company, so i perfectly understand what is it about, what is it that we don't have, what is it, well, we didn't have artillery, but in short, that's okay, we passed by, the fact is that... now the russians are accumulating additional forces in the bahma near bakhmut, they are almost doubled the number, well, according to official information, the troops stationed there, and it goes from 40,000 to 80,000 . we all know how important this hub is, we've been to these many times they traveled by electric train, well, not only the wolf, but when it was necessary... there was an urgent trip to kyiv and back, so that's it, okay, they traveled again, so whether they will succeed or not, well , the problem here is that, that they use those

groups, which they are assault groups, they have a reserve, this is the so-called tactical rotation, that is , a group can come, it was torn apart, it left and a new group in the same one goes, well, well, for example, in a certain area of ​​some place there well, 100 m, for example, 20-25 people, but they tried. pass there groups did not pass and repulsed and are trying to lead them out in such a way that the russians lead them out so that they do not even come into physical contact with the latest assault groups and the newest group is coming , it is fresh, that is , it is full of bull, they are fully equipped, and they were repulsed, they they return again, we have the same people holding the defense, that is , we don't have such tactical rotations of such a large number of people to do this, so this also exhausts the moral psyche. it is logical, well, what the colleague is talking about, well, not a colleague, it is better to say to the brother-in-law, by artillery, well, when they fall asleep, right there and then, yes, it is very

, very important that every shot hits the target, but the russians, they make and take sectors, take squares, start to fall asleep, and it’s just, well, how are you, well, where, we have to leave , of course, because, and then, if... if they had time and we managed to withdraw, just withdraw, get out of the fire, out of the fire, then of course, if they saw it through their eagles there or in some other way, that if someone had to retreat, they can quickly drive their own infantry there, even then we will have to knock them out of there, but we can't pour artillery like they do, so there are certain difficulties with drones, well, you know, people are starting... what a man, we just got married, it's very wonderful said that drones are also important, artillery is important, well, that is, it is a large and serious complex for the chirota battalion or even a platoon to take any actions, it

is necessary that combat orders be written there, that it be written if to do it there, i am silent about further reports the magazines still need to be filled, well, that's it, that's it some person who is somewhere very far from the front line and begins to tell, here we are now... there with drones or there now with something else there and we will defeat everyone at once or on the 16th they will fly there and bombard everyone well, well, well, listen, well, this, it annoys the guys who are there when a self-confident person starts to tell that she was in the army only as a guest, she starts to tell how to conduct combat operations, that everyone there is stupid and she is so or he is so smart , well, it's just that i don't know, it's so annoying that i can't even well many of my friends are coming well you know right there from those cities, some people began to be released sometimes on vacation, well there for reasons of health even, well, not for 15

days, but we meet all the time. i ask what is there, i ask, i was kicked out of the army for bad behavior, well, age is easier for me, i have reached the age limit, i was told a year ago, goodbye, i say, but i can still, goodbye and that's all, well , bye, we'll see, and here people come, tell, i say, there's a misorovka, how was it, i say, no, there's no misorovka anymore, there is already a blender, everything has become much worse there, so, well, you know, it’s better, let me tell my brothers, because i, well, i’m watching, i only know the stories of such brothers, and i’m watching from kiev, well... about i analyze there , i look at the documents a lot, and the person sees directly, he can better tell what is happening there because he sees it with his own eyes, i think it is better to give him more time than me, mr. denis, then let’s one more thing, you already said a little bit about the fact that now mainly in your direction there is no technology, well and this is really so, because we see when these are their breakthroughs in technology, it is there in the area

of ​​bilogorivka, in the area there... around kupyansk, in the area of ​​avdiivka, again , they are constantly destroying armored vehicles by the dozens, because they are there they drive in bunches like this , you say, mostly you don’t have equipment, but do you see the accumulation of this equipment , or as mr. oleksiy said, they will still accumulate and try to move towards the abyss of time, or do you already see these are some signs that it can happen, i absolutely support the words. my brother of course, there are many such nuances, especially regarding the meat grinder and rotations, the people remain the same, and the orcs are new and new, that is, it is a little difficult, well, morally, morally a little difficult, but i will say, we soldiers are waiting for war, so what we have been afraid of nothing since the 14th year, well, that’s it, i’ll say it like this

, they simply don’t catch up with the equipment to the front edge, left, two or three bumpkas left, yes, they left for the line of deployment of platoon columns, worked out , they left, the tank left, it does not approach the firing direction, he shoots from closed firing positions, they also do not allow our anti-tank weapons to be hit at a distance, or to be hit by those for... mmfs that are available, of course they accumulate, they keep the equipment, roughly speaking, at a low start, but away from the front line so that it is not affected as much as possible, because the dear accumulation of equipment, there immediately, so to speak , a star is cured in the eye, and people these people are bustling, running, it is all burning, we like it, everything wonderful, well... well, so that

they were accumulating, yes, they have a lot of personnel here, an extremely large number of personnel, and the main operational task for the russians, at the moment, is the time, that is, let's call it this, this donetsk fortress is bakhmut, it is chasivyar, konstakh, druzhkovka, slavyansk, kramar, kramatorsk, siversk, that is , this is a fortress for them, it is somehow in... to get all of donbas, and most likely they will drive the majority of the people here, that is, continue the same tactics of wagner, she here at the moment it has not changed, if we take bohdanivka, where there is a group of 15, 20, 30 men, well, how much is there a shortage of fp, artillery is needed there as well, the main means that my

colleague commanded is a fire support company on... these are the guys who sometimes give such things at once, that and the artillery will be delayed, we are very proud, yes gentlemen, our time is up, thank you to mr. oleksiy hetman, thank you to denys nagorny , i remind you to support the fourth brigade of rubizh, find mr. denys or his brigade on social networks, they are collecting for drones, they really need them under bakhmut, in order to to protect time, in order to actually be able to hold positions. bakhmut, our time is up, more news, accept them in the studio, and see you in a week in this format.