last year they built, we remember, we remember these lines of syrovikin, these are the two first, third, second lines of defense, and they built not just dug trenches and put dragon's teeth, they built reinforced concrete structures there, that is, there are dugouts that two, even three floors underground, there are a lot of underground communications, that is, they made powerful, er, if i am not mistaken, i may be slightly wrong in the number, but they made something about 600 km of trenches and they did not just dig them with a tractor, but made they are equipped t... that is, with pillboxes, with reinforced concrete and with very well fortified trenches, well, those cities where they have to conduct defense, unfortunately, we have such powerful fortifications behind avdiivka, behind kupinsky, well, we did not have time and make them so powerful, and we did not have the possibility of such a technique, such a number of people to be able to do it, there are some, there are some... fortifications, but they

are inferior to the russian ones, and therefore, well, we must, while there is time, while there it is held at kupinsk and at near kupinsk and near avdeivka, and we we understand that if the russians settle , we will have to leave, well, we need to have somewhere to leave, we hope, i hope that this is being done now, that we still need, well, we need more people, because in addition to weapons, there must be people who... to use, that is, if the russians are outnumbered multiple times, then in order to gain defense, well , you need to skillfully hold the defense so that there are at least, well, if not the same number, then much less of our servicemen than the russians, well, the platoon cannot hold the defense if divisions are coming, well, it's obvious here, i'm not saying what it is the difference, but in some areas it is roughly the same, that we still need, we need shells, definitely, first of all, we need shells. in order to allow

counter-battery combat, to destroy enemy artillery, well, of course, what you said , we need more drones, more radio electronic warfare, drones can't completely replace artillery yet, but well, they could help significantly, well , it would be nice, of course, well, these are already such big, distant prospects, it would be nice to have more aviation, we are with f16, but we really, really, because almost the entire front line will be destroyed. suffers from russian cabals and this is a serious problem for everyone is done in the trenches. now we just have to go on a short commercial break, we'll come back and talk a little more about bakhmud, a little about kupyansk, so stay with us after the commercial, and now a little commercial on the espresso tv channel. there are discounts on lozenges of iceland 15%.

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we continue the chronicles of the war and continue the conversation with alexey hetman, a reserve major of nsu, and to us. also denys nagorny, major of the national guard, chief of staff artillery of the fourth rubizh brigade, i greet you , mr. denis, good evening, studio, good evening, dear tv viewers, denis, well, let's ask you a little about what is actually happening near bakhmut, and well, you know, there were reports at the beginning of the week , that there is a little near bohdanivka, we managed to knock out the russians from some positions, but not completely... it is clear, did we manage to gain a foothold there, what can you say about it in general, were there really any advances of ours? if taken in general, there where our fourth brigade of operational frontiers is holding the defense, it is a little bit further north, and in general the whole line,

the line is somewhat static, like such cities, for example, the same bohdanivka, they can be considered no longer existing, just like the bangs, bang, because it was... simply erased. the line itself is still not moving, but in some places the enemy continues to actively concentrate efforts, in particular the same bohdanivka, these are the same kryshtiivsky heights, zaliznyanske, cheerful and a little higher than the disputed one. that is, it tries to push the line in those places where he believes he will succeed quickly. at the same time applies. a large number of personnel, these are mainly storms units, these are mobilized units, this is some use of armored vehicles from closed fire positions, that is, it does not approach the line of combat engagement and the same with the massive use

of artillery and tactical aviation, why tactical aviation , because every day, according to our calculations, the number of strikes is increasing... we, the cabals, from the umpk, as well as drone strikes, the number of drones at the moment on the line of contact is very large, both on our side and on the enemy's side, which gives , for example, certain results, but if we take it in general, if we take it in general, on a certain shade of the front, according to bahmut, yes, let's take, for example, this is the northern flank, in a month our donschiks, er,... the drones of the defense forces took away an entire artillery division, that is, 18 guns went into obliteration, let's call it that, that is, there are successes, but you can't refuse artillery in general, because it is the main means infantry support, that is, in any case, well, i'm just right

i thought, you are an artilleryman after all, so you must be competing a little with drones over there for targets to hit? but you know, well, everyone points out what has happened, well , there is definitely a shortage of ammunition, there are all these conversations, and can you somehow compare... maybe for a slightly longer perspective, if you compare it with the summer of 23, with the fall in the 23rd year, how critical is this projectile hunger, in general, and it is growing exponentially, uh, let's put it this way, for example, for defensive actions at the moment, roughly speaking, there are enough shells, plus they are compensated for by the same joint actions with the hacksaws, that is, companies of shock... unmanned systems, but if you add all this to a certain, to a certain pile,

let's call it roughly like this, then for tactical actions, for example, the same offensive, or the recapture of certain positions, there, for example, on the front of the battalion, this is not enough, the enemy , for example, if we take, for example, the army of the russian federation... they have an advantage in this, they concentrate a very large number of forces and means of fire, artillery, mortars, aviation, drones on certain in on certain segments, due to which they sometimes manage to knock us out of position, then these positions are also difficult to return, it happens if they do not have time to rush the infantry there, that is, the main sine of the lock is... to destroy the enemy's infantry before how will it get closer to the front edge

, but the war has reached such a stage, if we take the 23rd year, the 22nd, that is, every day the number of artillery shots from both sides decreases, the military-industrial complex, even of such a large country as russia, is unable to now to take such steps towards... the number of shells fired, which is 20-30 thousand shots, as it was last year, if we take the ratio now, then it is about 3-4 thousand shots from our side and somewhere up to 10 thousand shots from on the part of the russians, in general. well, it’s still very big, you know , it’s still a very big retained advantage for them, of course, but it’s all compensated by the use of drones, ugh, that is, by... gradually moving from the use of massive

artillery to point strikes by drones, which we by the way, we collect, if there is an opportunity in studio and on and we collect not only for drones, but also for web tools, if there is an opportunity to place a qr code, i will be very grateful. well, if there is one, well, if you give it to us, of course we can also publish it and join your collection. necessarily, and now we just draw your attention to the fact that the fourth brigade of the frontier is gathering for drones, and please, friends, find an opportunity, find the fourth brigade in social networks, join this gathering, because the guys are in an important direction and on the first line, and well, that's really a lot necessary, mr. denis, and one more such question, you know, you already started to talk about it a little, and about the fact that there is no way without artillery anyway, but tell me how realistic it is to carry out offensive actions, at least limited, that is

, the recapture of certain positions only by the use of drones and infantry, to what extent can we afford it at all? absolutely realistic, quite realistic, because there are certain cases when a whole platoon stronghold was knocked out with the use of drones and the infantry could enter there without problems, but i still on... they emphasize that there is no way without artillery here, it is a symbiosis of troops, as well as rep, as well as air defense, as well as other forces and means that are used, the troops cannot fight there purely with infantry or purely with drones, this the full set of measures that must be carried out for the offensive, for example, to take the same consolidated stronghold, you need to conduct reconnaissance, you need to release the same reconnaissance drones. to see when people come, when they leave, how many have accumulated there, when the reserves will be available, what time

it is in the advance of the reserves, fire to prohibit the advance, to prohibit the deployment, here i say, it cannot, it cannot be said that they took purely infantry, took purely drones and everything, occupied a certain, certain area there, that is, while we are in we don't have that many drones and we don't have them yet. unfortunately, so far there is such a large amount of ammunition to carry out such operations, it is difficult, it is quite difficult, well, i... i also want mr. oleksiy to speak on this matter, because look, what specifically concerns this direction about which denys is speaking, bakhmudsky, the impression is that at least there now, well, neither the russians are particularly capable of conducting offensive actions, nor our troops are capable of conducting offensive actions, and if the russians have it, it may

be related to the fact that they are conducting offensive actions in another place, then for us it is not enough in the first place. as i understand it, there are simply enough forces, no artillery, no ammunition. it was very nice to hear from a person who directly conducts combat operations in bakhmut, i have been there many times, i am also from the national guard, only from the 27th brigade, i was once there, they immediately smile, they know what they are talking about, i was in the battalion of the kuvchisky command of the powerful support, so i perfectly understand what is being talked about, what are mines, what are they, well, we did not have artillery, but... well in short, okay, that’s it, we drove by, the fact is that now the russians are accumulating additional forces in bakhma near bakhmut, they have almost doubled the number, well, according to official information, the number of troops stationed there has increased from 40,000 to 80,000 , will the ravine give them something further to advance, well, we we understand where they want to fly,

by and large they want to go to kostiantynovka, because we all know how important this hub is and we have been to... and when we had to go there urgently to kyiv and back, so that's it, okay, drove through again, so whether they succeed or not, well, the problem here is that they use those groups, which they are assault groups, they have a reserve, this is the so-called tactical rotation, that is, the group can come, it was torn , she left and there is a new group in the same, well, well , for example, in a certain area there well, 100 m, for example, 20-25 people, well, they tried to pass, the groups did not pass there, and were repulsed, and they are trying to lead them out so that the russians lead them out so that they do not even come into physical contact with the newest assault groups, and the newest group is coming , it is fresh, that is, it is full of bulls , they are fully equipped, they were repulsed, they

are coming back again, in our country it is the same people who are holding the defense, that is, such a tactical reteration of so many people to do this... we don't have any, so this is exhausting both morally and psychologically, and the fact that my colleague tells about, well, no colleague , it’s better to call it artillery, well, when they fall asleep, well , right there, yes, it’s very important that every shot hits the target, but the russians, they make and take sixters, take squares, start to fall asleep, and it’s simple well, how about that , well, where we have to leave, of course, because... and then , if, if they had time, and we managed to leave, just leave, get out of the shelling, out of the fire, then of course, if they saw it through their eagles there, or in some other way, they somehow had to move away they can quickly drive their, their, well

, infantry there, and then we will have to knock them out of there, but we can't pour artillery like they do, so there are... no difficulties with drones, well, you know, well people start who, well, the man just told us very well that drones are also important, artillery is important, well, that is, it is a big serious complex in order for a battalion, troop or even a platoon to take some actions, it is necessary to be there are orders written there, so that it is written as what what to do there, i am silent about what to report, journals, what to fill in, well, that’s it, then some person comes out who is somewhere... very far from the front line and starts to tell: now we are there with drones or there is something else there now and that’s all we will win right away, or on the 16th , all the bombers will fly there, well, well, listen , well, it annoys the guys who are there, when a self-confident person starts to tell, who, well, was only a guest in the army, starts to tell how to conduct battles actions that

everyone there is stupid, and she is like that, or he is like that smart, well, i just don't know, it's so annoying that i can't even. well, many of my friends come, well, you know, right there from those cities, some of them began to be released on vacation, well, there for health reasons even, well, not for 15 days, but we meet all the time, i ask what i ask there , i was kicked out of the army for bad behavior, well, age is easier for me, i reached the age limit, a year ago they said goodbye, i speak and i still can, goodbye and that's it, well, goodbye. and people are coming they tell, i say, there is a misorovka, how was it, i say, no, there is no more misorovka, there is already a blender, everything has become much worse there, so, well, you know, it is better to let neheim tell, because... i well, what i’m watching is that i only know the stories of such brothers and i’m watching from kyiv, well, i actually analyze there , i look at documents a lot, and a person sees directly, he can better tell what is happening there because

he sees it with his own eyes, i think it's better to give him more time than me, mr. denys, then let's give one more, you're already a little late they said that now mainly in your direction, there is no equipment going, well, it is really so, because we see when these are their pioneers... the equipment is there in the area of ​​belogorivka, in the area around kup' yanska , again in the area of ​​avdiyivka, dozens of armored vehicles are constantly being destroyed there, because they drive there in bunches of such, you say, mostly you do not have equipment, but do you see the accumulation of this equipment, or is it as mr. oleksiy said , which will still accumulate and try to move towards the temporal abyss, or you already do you see any signs of what it is? happen , i absolutely support the words of my brother , of course, there are many such nuances, especially regarding the meat grinder and regarding rotations, people

remain the same, and the orcs are new and new, that is, it is a little difficult, well, morally, morally a little difficult, but i will say , we soldiers are waiting for war, so since the 14th year, we have nothing to fear, well, that's it. i will say that they simply cannot catch up with the equipment to the front edge, left, two or three bempshki left, and left for the deployment line of platoon columns, worked out, left, left tank, it does not approach the direction of the attack, it fires from closed firing positions, and they also do not allow our anti-tank weapons to be hit at a distance... or are they hit by those fpv means that are in availability , of course they do not accumulate, they keep the equipment

, roughly speaking, at a low start, but away from the front line so as not to affect it as much as possible, because the dear accumulation of equipment there immediately, so to speak, cures a star in the eye, and people this , people rush, run, it everything... we like the hollow, everything is wonderful , well, so that they accumulate, yes, they have a lot of personnel here, an extremely large number of personnel, and the main operational task for the russians, at the moment, it is worth the time, that is, let's call it this, this donetsk fortress, this is bakhmut, this is chasivyar, konstakha, druzhkovka, slavyansk, kramar. kramatorsk, that is, this fortress for them is somehow a point of pride for obtaining all of donbas, and most likely, they will

drive the majority of the people here, that is, continue the same tactics of wagner, it is here for now the moment has not changed, if you take bohdanivka, where the group is 15, 20, 30 people, well, how much fp is not enough, artillery is needed there, as well as the main means... which my colleague commanded, this is a fire support company, these guys are like that , that they give such a thing at once, sometimes that even the artillery is delayed , we are very proud, yes, gentlemen, our time is up, thank you to mr. oleksiy hetman, thank you to denis nagorny, i remind you to support the fourth rubizh brigade, find mr. denys or his brigade in social networks, they collect for drones, they eat very necessary under bakhmut in order to protect... the times of the ravine in order to actually be able to hold the positions under bakhmut, our time is up, more news, receive them in the studio, and see you in

a week in this format, i'm here temporarily , i will return home soon. live now where you are, 12-year-old. all these boys disappeared in the temporarily occupied territories of the kherson region, and no one knows where they are now.

so i really hope for your help. first of all, i am addressing the residents of the temporarily occupied territories of the kherson region. i i know that you do not have ukrainian tv channels, but i hope that maybe you are watching this program on social networks. therefore , i ask you to look carefully into the faces of the children. andriy moroshnychenko. he turned 12 last december. the boy looks his age, he is thin and fair. he was last seen in february 23 on the left bank of the kherson region in the village of velyki kopani. sviatoslav olchasty. he will turn 13 in march. he is of medium build and has blond hair. the boy disappeared february 22nd in the territory of heniche district of kherson region, which was occupied almost from the first days of the war. and this is anatoly ilyashenko. he

came of age at the end of last year. the guy is thin, has dark hair and brown eyes, looks maybe a little older than his age. tolu was last seen in the village of baltazarivka, this is the chaplin district of the kherson region, which was also occupied almost at the beginning of the full-scale war. if suddenly someone has information about the possible whereabouts of andriy, svyatoslav or anatoly, is it possible that you just saw these guys somewhere, let us know immediately, even a small piece of information can... become very important. you can call the magnolia child tracing service at any time of the day by dialing the short number 11630. calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free. if you suddenly find yourself in the temporarily occupied territory and cannot make a call, write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. or look for us on facebook. i told you the stories of only three

children who disappeared because of full scale invasion of russia. in general, since the beginning of the war , we have already received several thousand appeals for help in the search. of course, the vast majority of children were found and now everything is fine with them. but, unfortunately, the fate of many still remains unknown. everyone can help find them. believe me, just a minute of your time can be decisive. go to the website of the magnolia children's search service in the missing children of ukraine section. here you can view all the photos from... perhaps you will recognize someone and eventually help find them. at the same time and on children also disappear in the territories controlled by ukraine. as the experience of the magnolia children's search service shows, the vast majority of them are teenagers. we talked about this topic with a psychologist and collected a lot of tips for parents that can prevent a child from suddenly running away from home. one of them is the importance of involving children in solving

family issues. involve the child in the development of the family budget, in solving some problematic issues, because sometimes we make some decisions, and these decisions are difficult, difficult, we ourselves are very worried and we worry about it, and we only inform the child about the result, and she perceives it as a personal insult, well, for example, the child was expecting a new phone, but due to some family events we do not have money for it, and instead of explaining , in order to make a decision together with the child, how and in what we... can save and when we can still save up money for that new phone, we simply bring to her this idea that there will be no phone, as we are perceived then, well, as an enemy who just wants to destroy the whole peaceful life of a child, a break all the dreams and all that, and if she knew the whole process, and if she participated in the discussion, and if her voice was important, and she could say, let's save a little bit here, that's where i'm willing

to give up something. because of this, she would feel complicity in the family budget, in planning, feel that she is important, and what could be better in life than feeling important? greetings, it's news time on espresso tv channel, kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. at night.