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remains very much like this, you know, bad in the sense that we have not received adequate explanations, and i am afraid that we will not. and why, in your opinion, the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine could not articulate why zaluzhny is leaving and why syrsky is coming, how syrsky is better than zaluzhny, or why zaluzhny is worse than zaluzhny , and actually what will happen next with zaluzhny. he couldn't articulate it because he doesn't have an answer to this question, you see, when we 're talking purely about, for example, the military component, it's in this release absent, and if you look at all the statements of our military, well, many did it so, you know, so well, anonymously , because in principle they cannot express their position very strongly there, then they were generally in a slight shock in the sense that that usyrsky, with all respect for him and support for him... in the position
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of commander-in-chief, he does not have any alternative vision of how the situation on the battlefield should develop, that is, by and large, it is a replacement of a person who was subordinate, well, they put a person , which was subordinated, but at the same time it does not fundamentally differ from those approaches, well, to a large extent, at least in a strategic sense, which were used by zaluzhnyi, and accordingly the president could not simply communicate with the citizens, because no matter how he explained the need, for example, to inject fresh blood there, some new approaches, a new course and so on, all this in one way or another, well, first of all, it was already described in a recent article by zaluzhnyi, he spoke about the necessary changes, about the need and how to change, he essentially laid out that plan for the 24th year, well , well, of course, no, no, not very specific, taking into account state secrets and many other things, but nevertheless it coincided with the things that the president announced yesterday, and when we are breaking through the purely military component and talking about... well, through the prism
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of some other reasons, these reasons are purely political, the fact is that the citizens of ukraine, according to all polls and what we saw yesterday in the same social networks, well, the reaction , let's say about this statement, they absolutely do not accept these political reasons, they consider them to be harmful and should not happen during wartime, that is , you know, a very simple answer to this difficult question, if only the president had even one real reason that he could explain in detail, and understood , that it will be perceived more or less adequately by the citizens there, he would probably voice this reason, so since he does not have such a reason, the resignation took place in the format that we saw yesterday, then some councilors already added more details there , but those are the details they looked like that, you know, faded in the background of the event itself and again left more questions than answers. after the resignation of zaluzhny and the arrival of syrsky to the post of chief. the armed forces of ukraine, volodymyr
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zelenskyi will now share both the successes and the defeats of the new head of the commissar, because until now we have heard the rhetoric that there is a military leadership, they plan, they give a bill on mobilization, they ask 500,000 people to mobilize, that is, always this this pronoun they was and is present in rhetoric the president zelenskyi, if he brought, released zaluzhnyi and brought syrskyi, does it mean that now everything that will happen at the front, everything that will happen in the army, will be associated not only with syrskyi, but also with zelenskyi? well, in the next few months it will be so, and it will be in the maximum format, and well, apparently, somewhere in the president's office, this risk was taken into account, but they believed that they would be able to block it, or ... directly lead the position of the supreme
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commander and the commander-in-chief , but it won't work out that way for them, and here you should actually sympathize with syrsky, because whatever he does now, and regarding his professionalism and competence, i think there are no comments there, whatever he does now, it will be perceived in the first place through the prism of this political appointment, and accordingly in everything they will see the explicit or implicit hand of the president's office, and these are precisely the consequences of a political decision that... was made yesterday, and which did not have adequate explanations, and it will certainly hit the president's rating , why, because well, in the near future, the situation will remain quite difficult , certain retreats are possible, well, more of this kind, of course , of a tactical nature, but nevertheless in certain areas of the front, and the responsibility for this will primarily be politically borne by the president, because it will be easier for the military to explain that is happening, and you have to understand that, unfortunately, in the near future...
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everything, well, everything necessary, that the armed forces need, will not appear there for a month, that is, the situation here is unlikely to be corrected so quickly, so get the consequences and well you know how people say, to rake. well, only in the political plan , the president will be directly responsible for all this, so i think that the next sociological polls, which sooner or later will lead, well, they will show , most likely, the dynamics of a further drop in the level of trust in the head of state, maybe then the situation will change and god forbid , so that we have success at the front, the president will somehow be able to do it immediately then, well , transfer his own political rating there, but this is a matter of at least a few months, and now, unfortunately, such associations there will be these associations. well, they will clearly not benefit all those processes that are taking place in our country today, both at the front and directly in power. you mentioned, mr. igor, actually, that this story will affect the rating of president zelensky, and how will this story affect the rating of valery
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zaluzhny? look, zaluzhny is actually in such an interesting situation today, but it is, well, probably optimal for him. first, i want to point out that it will most likely have something to do with... defense in that or another format, even if he will be engaged in what some telegram channels wrote about, for example, teaching, well, it is clear that he will teach military tactics and strategy, and in fact he has tremendous experience, which is needed by our commanders, nevertheless , i would like to believe that he is at least an adviser, an adviser to the same syrskyi, or he will be involved in the planning of some operations, this is an absolutely normal, correct tactic, especially considering the fact that he is currently the only one in ukraine a commander of this level who has management experience. in general, all the armed forces, syrsky will only have to learn this to a certain extent, so his experience is needed here, on the other hand, in any politics, i think, he will not take part now, simply because the war is going on, until the war ends , it is probably
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not worth talking about any political ambitions of the former commander-in-chief. he can, by the way, pay more attention to some social activity, the more he had a pseudo before he became the commander-in-chief, a volunteer, that is, he and was already dealing with certain of these issues. maybe now he will intensify this direction to some extent, but it will be purely volunteer-public oriented. at the same time, the colossal rating it has, i think it will not decrease there, it may even increase to a certain extent, well, in the next couple of weeks, months there. well, if in the future he does not take any ambiguous steps there, this rating can very easily be maintained until the end of the war, and then, if mr. zaluzhnyi has the desire, for example, to engage in some political issues. political career, well, he can then use this rating, i don't know, to create his own political force or for some other things, but this is still a matter of the distant future, in the near future everything should be fine for him, because, well, after all after all, they broke up, roughly speaking, yes
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, it’s not bad enough, and he remained in the situation where society is absolutely on his side, and he doesn’t even need to explain and tell anything additionally, yes, that is everyone so perfectly ... understands why this happened and that he is in this situation, well, he does not bear any guilt for what happened, so in this context everything should be fine with him, well, the only thing, look, there is another scenario, i really hope that it will not be there, especially after today's awards, when after a while there will be some stories about some checks there or criminal cases, we have a criminal case for the situation that was in the south, by the way countries at the beginning of the invasion and say that once even the investigators for a long time, they came to the zaluzhny , they asked him something, but if these things do not start to be promoted in some way, well, to cause him some kind of damage, then he can calmly keep this rating, make some correct statements, correct steps, help the country in defense, and think about the future there, but about the future that will be after the war. well, what it
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could be, this is a completely possible scenario, all the authorities that removed one or another general, including, i remember, general marchuk, were removed for formation. political image in the wording of the presidential decree, it was written that he was dismissed from the post of prime minister of ukraine, but look, valery zaluzhny never demonstrated his political ambitions, he never articulated that he wanted to become the president of ukraine, he never said that he is a political leader, although to be the commander-in-chief of the armed forces in a country that is waging a war, this is absolutely such a big political position for me... on which the future of ukraine depends, on which the life of every person living in this country depends, on which depends on when this war will end, including, i mean, not without diminishing the role of everyone who is fighting on the front, but the head is a figure so serious, is there
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a chance for a diligent person to become the next president of ukraine? yes, of course there is, and you know, i was surprised to read some materials there or articles that started to appear a couple of weeks ago. about the fact that there are generals who turn out to be bad politicians and so on, well, people probably do not know history very well, there are many examples when generals became excellent politicians, starting there from and... and such, you know, politicians who were respected, there was de gaulle, eisenhower, and the same truman, by the way, he was the only one who was not a general, he seems to be a lieutenant colonel, but the person had military experience, that is, there are actually a lot of such examples , and if valery zaluzhnyi has such a desire, and he wants to, after the end of the war, come, for example, into politics, into politics in general, yes, to prove himself in the political plane, well , he will have very good chances, as in in the context of that... well, you correctly pointed out that the figure in general the commander-in-chief is a political figure , i would also add that the figure of a successful
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commander-in-chief, that is, a person who really did a lot for the defense of the country , for ukraine to withstand in the first, especially months of the war, simply cannot be underestimated or overestimated here his role there is impossible, well, it is objective and it is clear to everyone, and here the question is simply another, with whom he wants to go, whether it will be some separate political force, or it will be some bloc. what will be his positioning, what is the general limit of his political ambitions, you understand, because to a certain extent the society itself has raised him to the status of a possible presidential candidate, and maybe he looks at it in a different way and sees himself in some other position, everything can be, in principle, and therefore in this context everything will depend, well, firstly, on when the war will end, and secondly, what exactly will he do now and how will the authorities monitor such a figure in general. which now to a certain extent, well, has already gone into some, well, partially into such free
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swimming, it is clear that he is still active a military serviceman, this imposes certain restrictions, but his hands are usually more relaxed, he can give more interviews, which he did very little when he was commander-in-chief, he can write some programmatic articles, make some speeches, it is clear that it will also have a full impact on his image, as well as on the support of the citizens, and today, i emphasize once again, it is colossal. it will remain the same, because today, well, today, yesterday, everything was added, you know, a certain factor such and such images that, well, how come, a person has done so much, but they treated him, well, to put it mildly, not very well, well, i am such a leitmotif very much so, you know, well, it is noticeable in all those statements that were, and in in this context, we citizens actually do not have a short memory, they will keep this memory, and the image of a hard-working person has not tarnished, it has become even better, well, now his main task is simply to collect it... and in the future , and the question of what and how will happen to oleksandr
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syrskyi, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine on his telegram channel talked about the main tasks in the new position, which he writes: there are new tasks on the agenda, first of all, this is a clear and detailed planning of actions for all military administration bodies, associations, connected units taking into account the needs of the front in the latest weapons that come from international partners for... faster and rational distribution and delivery of everything necessary for combat units was and remains the main task of military logistics: to know all the needs of the front without exception and to master the situation at each of its area, tasks of headquarters of all levels. and the assistant to the head of the pentagon, celeste wallander , says that syrsky is experienced and successful. the united states of america respects and will work with whoever the democratically elected government and leader of the country, zelenskyi, appoints as commander-in-chief, we will work effectively with general syrskyi, which we already
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have, mr. igor, syrskyi will be compared to zaluzhny one way or another, even i look at yesterday's all the comments, they were also comparative, because they mentioned that zaluzhnyi graduated from the odesa land academy, and this is the university that already graduated him in independent ukraine, asyrskyi graduated from. he studied at the pov military higher command college and studied under the soviet union, so there are many such comparative characteristics, will oleksandr syrsky manage to establish himself in the role of commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine against the background of such a sky-high rating of public trust in zaluzhny? well , you really can't envy him, on the one hand, i think we all wish him absolute success, because he... now heads the armed forces of ukraine, and from the armed forces of ukraine depends on the whole future of the country and our
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future with you, therefore, in this context, all the support that he needs, i think , should be provided to him, and society in this regard, well, should give some time for him to enter the state of affairs, understood what should be done and began to implement it. on the other hand, the really key question is how much he will win or lose in comparison to the one he is in, but it would probably be right for him not to address that. now the focus is on doing your job, showing really some new ones the approaches that the president mentioned, and then in principle, it will work to his advantage, it will work to his advantage, that he really has some there. differences and he is ready to implement them in practice, but the most important thing that he should probably do is to somehow show publicly or not publicly that he is responsible for military decisions and will not allow any serious interference by politicians in the direct planning of the military of operations, by the way, it was called
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one of the reasons why they were dismissed it is a good thing that he sent everyone far away who tried to fly there... to somehow influence the adoption of purely military decisions, so if he does it, it seems to me that everything should work out for him and he will have support, because the army - this is a fairly specific structure that has subordination, and it is clear that if his teams and his steps there will be adequate, will correspond to the vision of the armed forces, then he will use this support, what he said today, by the way, seemed to me very correct address, very clear there the accents are placed, which contradicts, let's say, with... what kind of information about him was circulated in the media and so on, well , the main thing is that he continued it further and, well , maybe organized some, albeit not a big, press conference there, where would he clearly say what he is going to focus on, how he will implement it, time will tell, i think that he will have support, well, at least at the first stage, including from zaluzhnyi, if he turns to him, thank you , mr. igor,
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thank you for the conversation, it was igor reiterovich, political scientist and head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian... center for social development, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live there, please like this video, do not be stingy in order for it to be promoted in the trends of youtube and facebook, and vote in our poll, today we ask you about the following: do you understand the reasons for the resignation of the volunteer, yes no, please vote on youtube or with the yes button or no write your comment what do you think about this. under this video , well, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphones or phones and vote, if you understand the reasons for the resignation of the servant 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, we will be happy to get your votes and show the tv viewers
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a rating of how you trust, don't trust the hardworking hardworking, or do you... know why he resigned or not? next, we will be in touch with oleksandr khara, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center defense strategies diplomat. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. the release of general zaluzhny marks a new and decisive stage in the war, in which zelensky risks making a mistake, the economist said. i will quote what the british wrote. the most important question is whether mr. zelensky can use zaluzhny's resignation to reorient his vision of the war. today , he still publicly promises that ukraine will return every centimeter of occupied land by russian troops, even realizing that this will not happen soon, if at all. if ukrainian forces could drive out the russian invaders, that would be great.
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however, if something completely unexpected does not happen, a war with a defined territory is a war in... ukraine cannot win, zekonmist journalists believe. mr. oleksandr, please tell me how zaluzhny’s resignation is perceived in the west now, and how you personally perceive it, i.e., is it a mistake, a staffing mistake by zelenskyi, is it not a staffing mistake, or is it the supreme commander-in-chief's decision, which fits within the framework of the existing legislation and the constitution, and it is up to him to decide who is actually in... the position of chief of the armed forces of ukraine? well, first of all, i will probably start with the statement of john kirby, the speaker of the national security council of the united states, he said that of course the president of ukraine can make such personnel changes, and of course that the united states will work with any military leader who is
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appointed, and it is clear , that our partners, our closest friends, they will perceive this person is from... from nowhere , that is, an experienced person, but actually, if you look, well, i looked at the british and american press, they are guessing, and what was the real reason for what happened, and everyone usually lists such guesses , starting with some political troubles, that zelenskyi's administration or actually zelenskyi himself... saw in luzhuj a political competitor, and actually this is one of the reasons, which is actually mentioned in all sources, but there are other reasons. for example, that he was too careful industrious, and mr. zelenskyi needs to show more results, which is exactly why he can rely more on general
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tsirskyi, who will not argue and will also perform political tasks, including some tasks of the president of ukraine. well, it is clear that the president should define the political framework, but he should definitely not influence military decisions to achieve these goals. tical goals, that is why this difference of voices shows that our bank has not worked with international partners, its most important partners in order to form there is an absolutely clear understanding of why this happened, and of course the same can be said about ukrainian society, which perceives it more acutely, because first and foremost our defense forces are in the first place, more than 80% of ukrainians trust the defense forces. and general zaluzhnyi, as a person who, well, by and large is the face of the defense forces, enjoys great advantage and
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respect in society, the president is somewhere two or three steps lower there in terms of trust in his activities and also, and because, of course, ordinary ukrainians perceive the expertise of the film quite painfully, and i'm not talking about the military. because you know that in relation to syrskyi, it is sometimes said that, despite his willingness to work in a decentralized regime, he very often uses soviet methods, and he is criticized, let's say, that he did not value the lives of ukrainian soldiers , in particular they put bakhmut as a claim, it is difficult to evaluate it here, i am not a military historian or an expert, but i think that even military professionals... it will be difficult for them to assess the role of bakhmut until the war is over, and until then it is impossible to see how much it affected, let's say, our plans to destroy large volumes
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of this russian force and, above all, the most combat-capable wagnerites, so this is this criticism may be fair, it may be unfair, but in general, it is not the lack of clear communication with our partners and with ukrainian society that gives rise to it. this is a very cold perception of this decision, isn't it? it was a decision at the time, taking into account the fact that now the congress of the united states of america has to consider the issue of financial assistance to ukraine, and it is clear that on the one hand, the release of the meritorious person, on the other hand , the large interview that putin gave to carlson, and this also goes, let's say, to the audience, mostly american audiences. to an audience that influences american politicians, congressmen, senators, and presidents or presidential candidates
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of the united states of america, but it coincided in time, we just see how this personnel rotation took place, and this is a two-hour interview that has already been watched by more than 60 million viewers on the social network x, whether or not it was on time... this is a personnel rotation, well, i don't know what they were guided by, why exactly, because for the last several weeks, in fact , tsyamatics has been very relevant in ukraine, and there have been completely different such with contradictions and signals, that this is not considered, that there is unity, and then that everyone is considered, that is, of course, that no no understood, it is not clear why, if we look at what is happening in congress of the united states, this is a process unrelated to... us, because there is a pre-election struggle, there is a struggle of the opinion of mr. trump, who wants to torpedo the compromise on migration reform,
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so that he has something to go to the elections, because this is the most painful topic for the american voters, thank god that the resolution was voted in the senate with 17 republicans and for the next four days, well, by the 12th there should be... the aid voted, i think the senate will have no problem with that, we will have the biggest problems starting with whether mike johnson, the speaker of the house of representatives, will put this issue to a vote, or how, well, the democrats, who are in the minority in the house of representatives, will be able to harmonize in order to overcome this opposition. mike johnson, for him this is not just a question of the border or aid to ukraine, taiwan and israel. and the question is, how long will he sit in this chair, because he is already threatened that as soon as he puts ukrainian issues to the vote, then he will repeat the fate of the previous one,
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the previous predecessor. his own, who was evicted republicans from there, because he actually also wanted to put aid to ukraine to the vote. if we talk about the interview, i watched it all, and you know, i really liked it. i liked it for several reasons, well , first of all, we see the progressive, mixed, bipolar-effective disorder of the fuehrer of the russian world, and he said a lot of such things there, which, well... in principle, do not fit on the head, what is it called, he also outraged the poles, i i think that the germans and many others did not say anything to novoo, and it seems to me that this is the case the best thing that happened during this interview, because he would, if he had prepared better with his propagandists, with the caddies, they could have launched into the american information space the things that the trumpians would have played, he actually has several there were such ideas that he
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is ready for negotiations, that... what, then, it is biden's fault, since he, therefore, does not want to put pressure on zelenskyi to have negotiations, well, again they mentioned boris johnson, who will be- then stopped zelensky from signing the peace treaty agreement, i mentioned arakami, and of course this problem with this surname will haunt us for a long time, especially certain comments, and that is exactly why this interview is very good, it showed an inadequate... who lives in his conditional world, he can be satisfied with the story that he, well of course it is historical, or rather, sorry, pollution, but on the other hand he is not satisfied with the fact that the united states has always not taken into account the interests of the russian federation, and by and large trumpian propaganda can take little from this interview 'yu, already a large number memes are gone, and it's a great pleasure to read how americans perceive it, well, i'm
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an intelligent american. not those who drink six cans of beer every night, so everything , everything could be a lot worse, and to be honest, mine was, let's just say, i was a little worried, thinking that tucker clarkson might have brought certain messages for putin, from trump, and this has already happened, you remember, michael flynn, the general, who, well, actually he was convicted for an attempt. negotiate with another country while he has not yet been assigned to position, and it seemed to me that thacker - clarson had such a mission, but according to the results of the interview, most likely it was not, and most likely, there was nothing more than this picture, nothing behind this picture. the chairman of the bundestag committee on international affairs, michael rhode, in a comment to the shoe, expressed concern over the delay in providing ukraine with new
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military aid from. of the united states of america, to quote michael roth. blocking aid to ukraine in congress is just the first harbinger of what could happen if donald trump will be moved to the white house in november. then immediately the security of europe will no longer be guaranteed. the future of free and independent ukraine will be in the greatest danger. actually carlson himself, this tucker clarson carson. a trumpian, he's one of the people who's been called the next vice president of the united states of america, i don't know if it's a joke or if it's real, trump plans to do, and what he did in two hours with putin, i mean , just let putin talk and all this historical nonsense, sorry to voice it out, 25 minutes putin talked about... the pseudo-history
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of ukraine and russia, this, well, it was just very unpleasant to listen to, but whether the americans understood something or not, maybe for those who drink six cans of beer in the evening, it is not so important, the main thing the fact that tucker is interviewing him shows something, but the fact that the republicans in the congress are now trying in any way to delay the vote. regarding aid to ukraine, is tucker's interview with putin to play along with trump, and in this situation , the republicans, does this mean that our most difficult period will be until november 2024, because it looks like...
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