the president, here and there, well, again, it is not very clear why zaluzhnyi was filmed, and therefore it is not very clear what they will expect from syrsky now, as regards how he is treated in the army, again this it is the military that should comment, because if you and i now, as civilians , start commenting on the fact that we once read some of the opinions of some military personnel who may have seen all these statements only there on their own certain level, that is, roughly speaking, we comment now the trenchant truth that someone somewhere once... taught about someone, it is not very serious to comment on such a thing, and one must again understand that this is a war, and of course that one or another commander will have to give an order that someone, well, in the end, died somewhere holding some positions , so of course such generals will not have such a good halo, again, but for us, as civilians, to comment on whether it was done correctly, correctly or not, i think that in the principle is not necessary, well, just the same, maybe in some parts of the military are the same, if you don't see the whole picture and again the general... it can be very good, but

if you don't have the personnel, you don't have enough ammunition and you don't have enough equipment, then in principle, well , but somehow you have to carry out commands, then it’s just a question, actually, how to do it, and maybe this is where some such stories about how this or that general is bad start, but again, i think that to what extent everything is true, we will learn there from the history textbooks and when it will be for sure to improve the statistics of this war, as of now, it must be assumed that this is now ours... well, excuse me, the new industrious one, and we must love him as much as we loved the industrious one, and we must also, therefore, move away from that , that he must somehow command, after all, one way or another, he was from zaluzhnyi's team, so it means that, in principle, as bad as some media are now starting to present him, he probably can't be either, well, then let's just hope that there will be a sufficient amount of equipment and there will be a sufficient number weapons, but you see, here we return again to the president's team at the time and to the partners behind them, so i think that

everything is not so simple, but we have what we have, actually you said that it would be good to somehow explain this resignation, we have left, there is a lot of field left , relatively speaking, for various, i don’t know, theories, including conspiracy theories, but this is also due to the fact that we have very little official information, we have seen several months some activity of such a deputy as mariana bezugla, then this point of expectations from... from the new the manager, who partially repeated the same claims that maryana bezula had, which only strengthened certain fears, but in any case, we also heard that some journalists had the opportunity to meet with the president or his representatives in a closed meeting, which was closed the briefing where the real reasons for the resignation of general zaluzhnyi were explained, i don’t know, maybe you were suddenly at this briefing, for sure...

but in such a case, how should we in principle relate to what, for example, how do you generally relate to this very idea of ​​these closed brichings, i just heard that they happen regularly, that is, journalists of some mass media are gathered and some things are explained to them that cannot be published, because it is as if it is a secret there, but in order for them to better understand the context and, so to speak, defended themselves regarding the russian ipso and so on, they did not come up with any kind of common ground, as danilov seems to have said no, it seems to be stefanchuk, that we should speak with one voice, well, that's why, i guess, first we need to call journalists, explain, and only then do something , here everything turns out in retrospect, we first, at first, do some kind of research for months, and then, after the commander-in-chief is removed, we have to call and explain why the bezula could say that at all, or something like that, well, again, it’s the same here... it’s necessary

to observe, actually, but after the fact, what happened after this story, in fact, bezugla remained one way or another in her position, she was not appointed there, i don’t know there as a governor on snake island, that is, one way or another, it looks like something triumph, well, sorry sick in the head, cornerless , against the commander-in-chief, well, that’s how it looks to the press, so now to gather journalists to explain to them why it was done and so that they now retrospectively begin to submit it to their members somehow from a better point of view, well, that’s already a bit late, that is, well, but again... well, what do you want from such communicators, here we have what we have, once again, and also now the question, well, very interesting, actually, who will be the hard worker now after his resignation , because they started there in the first few days to speculate that he will start occupying this or that position, then it turns out that he will not go to these positions after all, and now the question is, who will he be now, that is, in principle , we have a promoted ukrainian general, in principle, we must use the fact that he is known in the west, and if you want , you have to send him there with all kinds of diplomatic visits to... demanded as much

money as possible, met with influencers, talked about the supply of weapons and the like, but now it looks like, well something delayed his such a new purpose and... perhaps a part of the president's administration is just thinking that it is possible to somehow push him to some secondary roles or not to appoint him to any role at all and gradually they will begin to forget about the hard-working man, well, let's see what will happen to him, but then again well, just as the communication is strange, so is the filming strange, so this post-communication is just as strange, and that is why there is a summons of these or other ukrainian journalists, you see, for some reason you were also not called to these meetings, well, and now we have to find out somehow someone there through some third hands, who is possible there, who else? said something , well, of course it would also be good, for example, if we are already talking about ukrainian journalism there, that more journalists would come out and even start telling what may have been said off the records, and now we have some such secret negotiations of the authorities with journalists, but with selected journalists, who now have to tell something in their own words, what

someone told them there, a faraway, a fair, and now we are actually like this, and this, excuse me, this a very far-reaching decision, that is , the entire war, actually hers, may depend on this decision. the final way out , and that is why it is actually not clear why the whole country is sitting there and just starting to question each other, actually, what it was, this is one question of how the presidential administration was able to communicate all this, perhaps one of the most important events in the history of ukraine ? absolutely, i don't know what my reaction would be, whether i would even agree to go to such a meeting, because i was just taught journalism back in the 90s, and i remember that... this is a very famous swedish journalist, a television and radio journalist, he is not alive now, he is healthy, he is 74, and one of the theorists in the principle of modern journalism, he has exactly this moment, what to do with e of record

meetings, if there can be socially significant information, and as far as i remember, he advised such, advises in such a case political journalists, journalists who work in the political sphere. not to agree to such meetings, because in this case you are going to meet the authorities who use you, in fact, she still tries to explain her, her ratio to you and try to attract you to her side in this way, tying your mouth at the same time, because you promise as you go that you will not disclose these positions later, accordingly, he advises in such cases to say that we are not interested in information that is not socially significant in this situation. and the information that is socially significant in this situation, and you actually say about it, that this resignation can have very far-reaching effects and consequences for ukraine, it certainly did not play a role for the unity of the country now, accordingly, in such cases, it is necessary to insist that this situation, that this

information must be made public, well, that is , it is also a question for us, for journalists, to what extent we also keep our own mission principles in this difficult military situation, to what extent we we meet our mission, as far as we are ready, well, to tell the truth to people, somehow, well, i think about it, too, mr. anton, thank you actually for this conversation, anton pavlushko was with us, a military expert, a journalist, information for the record expert, and we tried to figure it out a little this situation with... the stake and the communication , in fact, of this entire resignation of valery zaluzhny, which began a few months ago, i even read on medusa that, for example, they wrote some, recorded some sources in the office of president zelensky, and there they

bragged, that they played it all very technologically correctly, at first they made emissions through showers through telegram channels, then there through all kinds of pubs of all kinds. then there was something else, then they refuted, then played something up, then denied, then hinted, then in foreign media confirmed something, so that the society would prepare, so that it would not be a strong shock, so that there would not be any protests, by the way, about maryana bezuglai's page, about what she has been doing on this facebook page for the past few months, attentive facebook users, here is a reminder with a good memory. that on december 6, 2023, not so long ago, maryana bezugla wrote a post in which she wrote the following: don't keep asking me about my personal information, the answer is one: i will never support syrskyi as the head of the armed forces, no

publicly, not publicly, in friendly discussions , not only that, i will do everything possible so that this never happens, this is the will of the military units, their request, as a parliamentarian should be a guide for ukrainian citizens, besides... i think so too itself, but there should be a team of purely technocrats for changes in the armed forces, the ceiling should be broken, promotion for new people to management without idols and factions, we need to stop suffering in the army, nepotism, superficiality, politicization. at the general debates from different sides, neither diligent nor not syrian people are not fighting this, on the contrary , maryana bazuglu wrote this a few months ago, it is interesting to monitor maryana bezulloi's page now, i haven't seen any posts from her that she is against the fact that syrian has now become the head, somehow, in two months, maryana bezuglai's opinion changed dramatically, you know, today about maryana bozuglai, she is also in the army there. and all that, er, so, i will allow myself to quote,

if possible, if we have another second, i will allow myself to quote, there was such a - uh, there was such the german general, er, kurt von hammerstein , ekworth, he was a german general, but he could not stand hitler, hitler dismissed him from his post as soon as he came to power, because he hated hitler and the nazis, considered them complete idiots and cretins, himself he was a baron, although his daughter, for example, became a communist and later moved to the gdp, well, that’s a completely different story, and he was very, very much like that, but he was a general, he was the leader of the captive troops before hitler , germany, was a lot an able general, glorified , he has a very famous quote, he divided all the officers of his army into four categories, he said that in principle everyone is either lazy, or diligent, or smart, or stupid, but he says, always those somehow ... these properties, as a rule, they pair up, he says, two go, he says, so that in principle, he says, there are, for example,

lazy and stupid, he says, 90% of the officers of our army, but also of any army, he says world, these are just such people, stupid and lazy, but he says it's nothing, they are fine in principle can perform routine tasks and the army relies on them, he says, there is also a category of officers who, he says, are also intelligent, and if they are... well, you can rely on them, they are super officers for the most difficult tasks, he says, and there are other officers , who are lazy and smart, he says , these are officers, they should be made higher command, he says, their temperament is such that they do not make unnecessary movements, and they will manage themselves, then says the elite, says, well, there is a fourth category, it says it's terrible , they are... strange and stupid, he says, then the worst, he says, yes, there are terrible people, they must be driven

away from the army as far as possible, because they have a lot of problems, but i think this is the fourth, fourth option, it's just about being sensible, well, just one, as i said to me, mence , i'm sorry, bezula, but one on one, it's just that the late german general, hamerstein, wrote about her , what he filmed, dear friends, let's take a short break, come back and continue. there are 15% discounts on icelandika lozenges in psyllium bam and oskad pharmacies. shakhtar marseille exclusively on mego. in the battle for one eighth leagues of europe, miners are preparing an unforgettable reception for the french. february 15 at 19:45, cheer for the miner's victory. turn on the football on mcgo. there are discounts on parasites olnytsia 10% in pharmacies plantain for you. and saving

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by the russian federation, pavlo lysyanskyi, human rights defender, director of the institute for strategic studies and security, is in touch with us, mr. pavleta. congratulations, congratulations. this week, the un committee on the rights of the child called on the russian federation to stop the forced transfer of children from the occupied territories of ukraine in violation of international law and return them to their families. have you seen this call? and how do you think russia will react to this call, what does this institution mean at all, does it have any force? it's hard for me to comment. the decision, well, it ’s definitely good that it exists, it’s definitely good that our international partners are reacting in this way, it’s all very good, but just this week on my facebook page, i made cenzernet public, i published, i provided information about , what about

the deportation continues there, and they act because of... well, how can i say, because of the deprivation of parental rights, i submitted supporting documents specifically from the occupation courts, yes, where you can see that, where, and here at the end there, well, you can see that a decision has been made, that parental rights have been deprived, these lawsuits are filed against parents, third parties, those who working. well, the workers of the occupation administrations file such lawsuits, the occupation courts quickly accept all this, the child is removed from the family, then the child, sorry for such a time, went through the stages, yes, through the stages of the orphanages, the occupiers and to the russian federation, and

there are a lot of such cases , there are a lot of such cases, we analyzed, the data is available, confirming the data is available. therefore, probably what they declare is good, it would be worse if they didn't declare , but in addition to declarations, you need, understand, the world has changed, and if before, probably, before, probably, such a un statement was enough to stop , it is not enough today, and it is necessary to understand how these statements can really affect the situation , because the idea of ​​the un organization was to stop violations of human rights, stop military conflicts, etc. another thing, we see in ukraine two years of military aggression by the russian federation against ukraine, russia sits, has the right of veto, sits in the un security council, affects everything, that is, we see that something else needs to be changed, or new

organizations should be created or existing ones reformed, well it can't be like that, because the statement was beaten, and we see that in the occupied territory they deprive the parents of their rights to the child and take the children away, well, that's nonsense, you know, what a violation of rights person, and this, well, understand, it is massive, that is, it is massive now there situation, despite everything that they do not have enough judges in the occupied territories, there is a lot of evil there. however, the courts find time and pass the very decision of deprivation of parental rights, and are not engaged in, let's say, the conviction of crimes there, do you understand, that's why? the question remains open, and i think that we need to look for other ways, because we understand, yes, everyone is working, civil

society, there is the government, journalists, individual international figures, we return the children, yes not much, but we return them, but time is working, not on us, that is, tens of thousands of children were taken away, we return dozens , yes, hundreds, well, there are 300 or so children returned , that’s right, that’s the result, i agree, i’m not criticizing, yes, what is it, well, nobody does anything, i’m not criticizing about that, i about the fact that there is no clear mechanism of influence on the dictatorial regime of the kremlin so that it stops these crimes and abuse of children, well, you say en masse, but what number are we talking about, are there any for sure, we counted about a thousand here.. . such messages only for 2023 and i specially took one and showed it on my facebook for 2024, you understand it goes there too, well, somewhere approximately, if the claim

gets to the occupation court, somewhere approximately a month, he is there, they are working now, occupation courts according to russian law, they must summon the person there, well, it is a formality and they make a notification. that such and such a person , a person, is called, they do it on some website, which of course no one reads, respectively, but thanks to these messages you can track how many people, how many children they want to remove from the family, and that we have more than a thousand such cases calculated, it is only for the courts, only for the courts of the occupied luhansk and donetsk regions, we think that also for khersonsk and zaporizhia. the same situation exists in the occupied regions, so the figure may be higher, you understand, the data is closed, and we

received these data, well, the debalsiv court, it is thanks to the fact that it was my colleague vira yastrybova who found these data, because she was still at in ukraine , she worked as an assistant to the head of the debaltsiv court, accordingly, what connections did she retain, which ones? what access does she have there, and therefore thanks to these connections it was possible to establish these are the actions of the occupiers on the occupied and you are there, you will see, there we presented other documents, there the surname of the person filing the lawsuit does not match the surname of the person, i.e. there is the father or mother, who is deprived of parental rights, what does this say, that it is not a man who is friends with his wife, it is specific. the third party, that's how the lawsuits are written, it also says that the prosecutor's office, the family department, and the youth

of the occupation administration are involved as third parties, you understand, that is, this is what we talked about when released in 2022 that such a practice exists, but after the annexation and the establishment of the system, the system of the penal system, i cannot name this system. justice of the occupier's punitive system in the occupied territories , they accelerated this system, launched it, now they are simply depriving their parents of their rights in this way, the children who could have been deported, although they saw that there are other children, and other children - who is this? i recently said that here at the checkpoint, but now you can go to the occupied territory through those. only, if you enter the russian federation from the sheremetyevo checkpoint, yes, that is, you will not enter the occupied territory in any other way, that is, everything

is closed, and accordingly, there will be filtering from october 2023 to january 2024, 3 thousand were banned from entering to the citizens of ukraine, they have children left over there, property left, property is confiscated, children are taken away, by the way, we have a court decision. for the property that the occupiers are squeezing, that is, people were deported, well, they were banned from entering for at least 5 years, children who stayed there with their grandmothers, they believe that these are indirect relatives, property , everything is taken away and this is covered up by the decision of the occupation court, in relation to those, in fact , children, teenagers who are now in the occupied territories, just this week i read about the fact that they are somehow being herded into berdyansk en masse children to the so- called youth army in meritopol, more precisely in berdyansk , some patriotic ones were opened. a military,

paramilitary camp for children on the basis of a health care complex, the same thing happens all the time from kherson region, where there is also a young army, then there are detachments of this and that there was that funny collaborationist, my god, i already forgot about him, what was his name, strymousovo, there are people behind the scenes, well, something incredible is happening, zakharchenko’s son is somewhere in donbas, there there... and so on, in words, well, very , very, very every day there are news that relate in one way or another to our youth who ended up in the occupied territories, look, well, the situation is even worse, because the young army is, let's say, the initial stage of militarization, which they are now planning to implement , they create a new subject, it will be called russian

i will say, the basis. state security and family protection, it’s in schools, oh this , well, it’s actually a young fighter’s course for schoolchildren, it includes tactical training, formation training, fire training, and in order to start this subject, and it’s actually training on training grounds, it training with weapons , well, that is, well, this is actually a reduction, well, that is, it is preparation for the war of the youth, students from the ninth to the 11th grade will take it , they have been there since the age of 13, and now they have already been sent to tyumen so-called teachers who are being trained, who will conduct these trainings in the occupied territories, they plan to train approximately 300 teachers, this subject will start on september 1, 2024. that is,

they are fully preparing a new generation for war. and if you are an army, all these units, the heroization of these fighters and so on, this is ideological training. they pump them ideologically. so this subject, which i mentioned, is already a combination of an ideological component with a military component. that is, they need, for... well, the occupiers are fighting for money, well, come on, they are paid a lot over there salary, and they go, yes, commit crimes, kill peaceful people, then for the fact that they are paid a lot of money, now the kremlin has set a task to make the future generation fight not for money, but for ideology. one great man once said that when a person pulls the trigger, it's not him who pulls, it's the ideology in his head that pulls.

unfortunately, very serious processes, mr. pavle, thank you very much for this conversation, pavlo lysyansky was with us a law enforcement officer, director of the institute of strategic research and security, in the meantime, let me remind you that today we work until 5:00 p.m. with lesia kulyuk for you, and from the very morning, 7:00 a.m., here, well, now until 5:25 p.m., dear friends, it's approaching 3:00 p.m., and we remind you of the same hour. that we will have news, a fresh selection from anna evymelnyk, i also thank you for donating, it has already been added, well , not so much, actually 200 have been added, added, i still hope that later we will announce, remind about our collection, we will show you the details again, and you will donate a little more, more actively, because our military needs it, we need in general, collect as much as 1 million, but

it wouldn't be bad to end this week. we already have 435.85 hryvnias and 63 kopecks with you. well, a few seconds before the 15th, annaeva melnyk appears. to you, anna eva, a word. greetings, colleagues, thank you for your work. the news team will continue to work and this issue will begin with the situation in kharkiv. there, due to the attack by muscovites, the number of victims increased. details further. the number of victims in kharkiv has increased, now there are 57 of them - reported the mayor of kharkiv, ihor terekhov. the dead remain seven, all

they burned alive in their homes. the entire family of young people died in one house.