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occupiers blew up the kakhovskaya hpp dam. this caused significant costs to farmland downstream of the dnieper. part of the fields was flooded in addition, the irrigation systems that delivered fresh water to the fields were affected. some local farmers, despite the challenges , began to restore production in their native land. among them is viktor sviderskyi. and yevhen vashchenko, entrepreneurs from mykolaiv who created a whole defense system to save the fields from flooding. in addition, viktor swiderskyi advises local farmers to solve the problems that arose after the russian invasion. how the explosion of the kakhovskaya hes dam affected local farms, how entrepreneurs saved fields from flooding and what needs to be done to restore the agricultural... sector of the south
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of the country," says farmer viktor sviderskyi. i'm viktor volodymyrovych sviderskyi, candidate of agricultural sciences. i graduated from university, i've been studying for 10 years, i have practice both with foreign specialists and with by ukrainian specialists, and my goal, my dream, is for ukrainian farmers to have a higher yield than dutch farmers, or at least the same, i remember when the dutch came to us and they said, we grow 120 tons of carrots with hectare, for us, well, it was unreal, we grew 40, 50 tons there, well... a maximum of 60 could still be believed, when we learned to grow 120, the dutch say, i am like that, you want to brag, and they say , but we already reach 180 to 200, and this is a field where you can always develop, this is a field where
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new obstacles are always encountered, and when you overcome them, you realize that you are really strong, and we talked today with .. by five farmers, and we see that they are very strong people. in general, this is my work, my goal help the farmer to get the maximum yield, recommend the soil on which to plant, recommend the water with which it is better to irrigate, but everything starts with the seed, if there is soil, water, you need a good seed, then you need to grow it, and... grow a plant from a seed , it is the same as giving birth to a child, raising it, you need to take care of it, first as a small child, then as a teenager, then as an adult, and if you want to get a harvest,
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get thanks from a child, you need to invest, if children not to raise children, then there will be weeds, just the same, if you don't believe the plant. there will also be a weed, she will give herself those few fruits or some seeds in order to give her offspring, that's all, she is not interested anymore, the plant is not there, the plant has no goal to give you the maximum yield, you have to give this goal to the plant, like the farm of victor and yevgeny met a full-scale war, on february 23 i was... at home, with my wife, with my child, and the woman tells me that everything, the war will start, 100%. i say, don't worry, there won't be any war, it's pointless to fight, and on february 24 i'm sleeping, there will be no women, he says, the war has started, and
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we have metal-plastic windows, this, nothing can be heard, i say, what’s wrong, you must have dreamed something, i say, go to sleep for 5 hours, well, it was almost 5 hours, eh - eh, she says, look out the window, i'm standing looking out the window, i know so well where the airfield is, in mykolaiv, dpvo, if i knew all these places, there are our fields near them, and i see that everything is breaking down, planes are flying, rockets are flying, everything is on fire, smoke is coming, and i realized that the war has begun, er, of course, it was a tragedy for me, as it was for all ukrainians, er, we... we immediately made a decision that we would stay in the city and help where needed, but my wife began to worry about the children, all our workers came to our house, even friends, even friends and
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relatives came to our house, all in such a crowd of people gathered in our house, we were not going anywhere at first, i said we would be at home. but you still know how people are worried, afraid, the children are all at a loss, they don't know what to do, so i made the decision to take the family out after all, then i already returned with a humanitarian load, and we worked in mykolaiv, they helped people, even in their own house, where we live, to our neighbors, they distributed rations to everyone, because from... there was such a situation that the youth all left at once, only pensioners remained, people who had nothing to lose, who they say, we grew up here, we lived our whole lives, if we die here , i came to the city, the city was completely empty, the traffic lights did not work, nothing worked,
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and we began to engage in humanitarian work, to fix these chains, to organize, and when we already ran out of money... so me made a decision that it was necessary to work, it was necessary to work, somehow to provide for the family, moreover, we guys were sitting without work, we needed to somehow provide for their families. you can't live on feeding one humanitarian worker, and we started working, doing what we were doing, supplying seeds, supplying fertilizer, er, setting up these same chains that worked before the war and which did not work at all at the beginning of the war, and also forgot to say that even before that i called the farmers and i was very surprised, there were a lot of heroic people who stayed under fire and worked and
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they said that somehow we need to feed the city , we need to feed the people, we stay , we need to grow something, if people had such a strong enough responsibility, and there were such cases when i called farmers, and they were abroad, i said: come back , we need to grow, we need to do something, we need to raise our state, i convinced many to... they are very satisfied and i am satisfied, because the guys actually invested in that year, and many people there say that they made money, because the prices were high, but i always say, and you can imagine if there were no such products at all was, then a watermelon would not be 40 hryvnias, it would be 200 hryvnias, and what would we do then, yes these farmers earned money, but as i said, if they invested the money. at that time of the greatest danger, they invested
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all their funds the following year, and the watermelon already costs uah 10 each, and i am happy about it, of course, that if the watermelon will cost uah 5 or 7 there, with the right technology, you you will still make money, but i count the limit beyond which you do not need to cross, because if there is a loss of products... then the price will drop and the farmer will begin to lose money, if a farmer loses money, he does not invest it, he begins to save it somewhere with himself there, well, roughly, yes there, some in banks, some under pillows, well , i’m talking roughly, nobody saves money like that now, but it will to keep them, that is why it is very important that the farmer earns, that people eat quality products, and that there is mutual synergy, so to speak, for everyone. it is necessary that the farmer receives the maximum yield and that this yield is high-quality and ecologically clean, and
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people will receive cheap, high-quality products, if the farmer does not know how to grow, or he has never grown it, or somewhere he has seen how someone grows and invests money to grow, i usually say that the first year do not be afraid to burn out, or find yourself a godfather or a best friend who will tell you what to do. because not everyone will tell you yet, even if they do know, and those people who find agronomist friends are successful, because we are moving towards intensive cultivation of agriculture, and like the whole of europe, how the russians' undermining of the kakhovskaya hydroelectric dam affected the farming economy of southern ukraine? first. after the war, vegetable production in the south was completely destroyed, well, in general, it is mykolaiv,
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kherson, zaporizhzhya, partly dnipropetrovsk, where people left, it was destroyed very much, kherson is generally the number one vegetable region, which produced products for the whole country, it is gone, yes, now because of the undermining of kakhovskaya gez. we don't have irrigation, big problems, i think it's a big environmental disaster, and i was very surprised when foreigners don't understand it, for example, i correspond with french journalist, i tell him that the mykolaiv region was also affected by the kykhovskaya hydroelectric power station, he says: well, look on the map, where is the kykhovskaya gs, and where is the mykolaiv region. and it's hard for me to explain to them that the kakhovskaya ges is
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not that ges is there in your state, or somewhere in the mountains, or somewhere, that it was simply blown up, one village was washed away and that's it, but this is a large-scale ecological disaster , which affected at least four regions, in terms of drinking water, in terms of irrigation, in terms of providing labor resources, water. increased in price very much in the south, uh, of course people try to make wells, and to make some wells, but this... is not an option, because in the south we have salt water, ground water, it is salty, the dnieper water was fresh, it was of very high quality, but - and that's why farming in general is now moving from the rooster to the center of ukraine, the center and west of ukraine. ah, in western ukraine, well, i didn't
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see farmers who were engaged in growing watermelons, or there. peppers, well, if there were attempts, well, these are individual attempts, well, not massively, but now it is massively, already in western ukraine people are trying to grow the entire vegetable line that was grown in kherson , agriculture is shifting, they have better water, and the soil there is not of such quality, but if the water is good, there are fertilizers, the quality of the soil can be improved, when i saw this prospect, i already to... call the farmers, yes, those from mykolaiv, kherson, tell them that you ’d better move, zaporizhzhia, i say leave and work there, and if everything goes well, come back, but i’ll say there, maybe one or two men have moved, all are left, everyone is trying to work here, a lot problems with water, many problems with shelling,
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with the fact that there are no people here, but... because of the shelling, people are all leaving, no one wants to live here. how did the events unfold after the explosion of kakhovska hess? when the kokhovskaya hpp was blown up, i was on a business trip to western ukraine, working there. and for me, this news was comparable to how the war began on february 24. that was exactly what it was for me. it was a tragedy for me. i understood that the region was completely destroyed. if there was any hope that it would somehow recover, somehow it would work, this one hope was gone, and after this news , i usually started calling people and said, you better move, transfer the equipment, if there is anything left, transfer your resources and work in the second place, because it is a huge problem, because watering it with wells, or
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at all, if the soil is not irrigated, it is salted. it is degrading and remedial measures need to be carried out, of course, i called my friends, asked who was affected, what the situation was, uh, and i was, you know, a little surprised when i called some farmers who had not even heard of such news, then i was the first to tell them, the guys were looking at the dam, they and you, what can’t be, i say, yes, i say, and... at that moment i immediately started to go back to the mykolaiv region, because, you you know, evgeniy's field , it is located near the river, i understood that the water would go up right now, and i called him, i told evgeny, to do something urgently, and we had this idea to build a dam, he is certainly
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a good man, a really strong person, this i did, because he calls me at night, says, that's it, i don't have enough strength, i can't do anything anymore i will, er, he says how they specially took three tractors, all work, people work, sometimes one breaks, then another, parts cannot be found, we cling from one to the other, we somehow manage, we go during the day, buy, repair at night, and i i supported him morally as much as i could, because at that time i had not yet arrived and... when i arrived and saw all this, i told him, well, you're just a real hero, you're handsome, you're great, and i remember he is building a dam, he says the water is rising, rising, it is already flowing, i am saying everything, probably we will not hold anything, nothing, i i say let's hold on, let's continue building, how
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farmers saved their lands from flooding, it was a huge wall. an embankment more than a kilometer long, plus all the channels were buried, so much equipment was working, and you know, at the beginning, when it was all being built, small ditches were made to hold the water at least for a while, so that we could do this embankment, because the water arrived very quickly, and this, well, i will say , is comparable... to if the river was flowing on you, well , how to hold back the water, here sometimes in the canal you can’t hold back the lock, but it is 50 cm high there, the flow of water and... you can't just hold it back, such a big wave is coming at you, of course we are there at a greater distance than the other farmers were, we understand that, we managed to do it, thank god,
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the people who were affected, i have great sympathy for them, we also suffered from shelling at the beginning of the war, and lost both property and resources, we lost a lot of things, this is grief - i want to support all these people, in principle, this is my idea, to help not only the affected people, but to help everyone, but if there is an opportunity to help the victims more, yes, financially, materially, with connections, it is better to help them more, because they have not lost a year. they 've lost their financial potential, that is, a person who steps up every year, they keep going up, and a person who's been up and up and lost everything, some farmers have told me,
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it feels like we're in '92 and we're starting over again, in 1991-1992, when collective farms collapsed, de-soldering, nobody needed anything, and people started working. they have this feeling, i think we need them to support, even more so, i always say to farmers who have earned, i say, don't be afraid , you need to do charity , you need to help, if you can't with money , help with equipment, help with some resource, help with advice, come, support a person, because it's not just about losing everything , how the farm works after the invasion. farms of viktor and yevgeny, before the war, yevgeny and i worked, cultivated, everything was fine, we earned money, everything
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was fine, after the war, when the russian troops were already near voznesensk, voznesensk, we had doubts whether we would be able to work, ah, when... russian troops pushed back to kherson, to snihorivka, then we realized that it was possible to work, we started working, and that year we were very unlucky, we invest, we take a lot of risk, we are afraid, and a hailstorm comes, knocking out all the watermelons, tomatoes, everything that was, evgeny says, we will discuss everything, we will not do anything, it should have been this year, not... i say , let's not give up, i say, i have several techniques in practice, i think it will work, but
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at first, i also doubted, i thought it would work out, it wouldn't work out , the damage was very bad, and we made a decision to cut all the watermelons, cut them off completely, put people in it, it's additional costs, give stimulants for recovery. they were applied correctly, stimulators, fertilizers, protective agents, plants began to grow again, recover , gave a harvest, earned and invested in this year, well , this year there was kykhovskaya gs, which, unfortunately, was blown up, all the same thoughts, again we lose everything again, nothing will work, but we work hard, we don't give up, we get results, and you know, it's like in sports, ah, when you do some exercise and you can't, the coach says , it's done because of strength, but when you do it, you do
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it because of strength, then you become stronger, the coach says, and when you do what you can do, you don't get stronger, that's why farmers, uh, and i recommend to everyone, you see, everything, you... there are only limitations, there are dead ends, there is no way out, it is coming down on you a whole disaster, work through strength, succeed, consult, be friends with each other, and i 'm sure the result will not force itself to expect why the occupiers' detonation of the kakhovskaya hpp is an environmental disaster not only for ukraine. the undermining of the kokhovskaya gez is an ecological disaster. not only of ukraine, but also of the entire black sea basin. remember that video, with dead cows, things that were all floating in the odesa region, downstream in the black
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sea. it's quite a huge distance, uh, it 's all ended up in the sea, uh, of course it affects the climate, when you have a huge volume of water, there's evaporation, uh, more precipitation, the climate itself, it is softer becomes, water is a buffer, it slowly heats up, slowly cools down, it softens the climate, because the air itself, it cools down very quickly, heats up, so does the soil and in... the desert, why huge temperature differences, during the day there can to be 60° , at night +4, due to the fact that there is no water, and in the same way now we will have climate changes, climate changes in ukraine, which means globally, if a larger amount of water is stored, ah, then a milder climate, if all the water is drained, removed, drained.
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destroy, the climate becomes harsher, of course, if it is a swamp, it is also necessary to carry out milioration, because when we grow plants, they also evaporate moisture and soften the climate, and when we have land that is simply plowed for a whole year and nothing grows there, not even weeds, it also affects the climate negatively, how climate change affects farming in the lower dnieper, climate change is a consequence. undermining the kakhovskaya gez, will have a negative impact, the climons will become tougher, there is no water, more arid, and farmers, if they want to grow something, they they will move to central ukraine, they will come to western ukraine, because in connection with global warming, it is getting warmer there, it is getting hotter and drier. and even now 100 hooks
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are falling, the water is getting less, there is no such dam that held the water, if it is restored, even, restored, built, we take it, we built it, how many years does it need to be filled, during the soviet union it was filled for four years, then , what was the flow of the dnieper, guys , some people tell me, yes, we have a cascade on the dnieper, a dam, maybe... let's share the water, i say, well, you know what volume of water is needed, you are ready from each cascade, but to pour 5 or 10 m of water there, i think that the population will not go for it in the first place, yes, there can be divided by a meter, but it is not enough, even if we rebuild the dam now , it will take at least five, and even 10 years to collect it.
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is it worth rebuilding the kakhovskaya hess dam? i am in favor of restoring the dam and i think that all ukrainians who understand the catastrophe for this region, and how many jobs there were, how many people worked, what a resource for ukraine this region provided, should to support if i do not understand this and i have never been to the kherson region and have not communicated with farmers and people and have not seen the villages that stand on these canals, on canals where water flows, in western ukraine, villages stand near rivers, cities are built near rivers , in the steppe, where the river is very far away, and there were canals,
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villages were built near the canals, near artificial reservoirs, and now imagine, the water went away, when the water stood in the canal, you dropped 10 m, you have water in the ground, now the water has left the canal, it will leave the ground, how much digging will be necessary to to find water there, and water is life, especially in agriculture, i am completely... in favor of restoration, but i talk to agronomists who started working there since the 50s, since the 50s, they say , when someone came to us, they were all shocked, they were shocked by such a scale, ah, and they were shocked by the irrigation facilities that were there, they said, it is really some kind of paradise, everything is irrigated, everything pours, everything flows ,
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