we will still have to feed ourselves and carry out exports, in the sense that these are our borders, this is a continuous front, but czech farmers are joining protests against the import of ukrainian products, they are planning to drive their tractors to prague there, demanding some checks, ours say, we can check, we have a lot of things related to the export of agricultural products to europe , it turns out that there are a lot of people fighting against us, now we are against... in particular, and not only about this, we will talk with our two guests, because this is the deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, denys marchuk, to whom we say good morning, and hryhoriy tkachenko, the head of the naporivske farm, this is the chernihiv oblast , we welcome you, mr. denys, we welcome mr. hryhoriy, we welcome you, so look, i will begin but from these options, our grain is already being cut and spilled, there will certainly be some criminal cases there, because this is already damage.

property that belongs to another state, in a word, the degree of confrontation increases, and so does geography, which is why chekhion also joins in, and you know, the information support is so lying in the sense that there are some big oligarchs, big agro-enterprises, and we are fighters for the oligarchs from spain, and we small people are suffering in ukraine too, but in fact, this is how you see the development for yourself of this situation, is it for a long time or finally? finally something will move on this agrarian border front. you will allow me, if i would like mr. grigoriy to say, because he is a person who survived the temporary occupation, a person in whom almost everything was destroyed , including the enterprise, dairy and commodity complexes, he is currently trying to restore a lot, and he really, from the inside, as a person who, let's say, experienced this state of war more strongly than the agrarians, can explain in polish, mr. grigory.

good afternoon, hryhoriy tkachenko, head of the napolivske farm, yes indeed, i can confirm the words of denis, we have been, are in the under-occupied territory of the chernihiv region, and we know the state that existed during the occupation and during the de-occupation, so taking this opportunity, i i would like to address my polish colleagues with a call to action. it is possible to end this blockade, because we are, our military is the outpost of their security, the citizens of poland, and we, ukrainian farmers, are also this wall that awaits them if we do not resist, i would also like to call on all government organizations, in our a very large number of government organizations, including the cabinet of ministers, the ministry of economy, the ministry of foreign affairs, and the ministry of economy.

of agriculture, i would also like to involve non-governmental structures in this case, this is a large number of different ones specialized organizations, this is the association of farmers, the all-ukrainian agrarian council, various specialized associations, grain, association of milk producers and many others. every ukrainian, every head of these communities must act at this level. we have to explain to our polish colleagues about the situation... in which our agricultural agrarian sector is, and i think that after united and fruitful work we will find some kind of understanding, some common language, but in my opinion, we must act in a balanced way and we must act tolerantly, because you have to remember that the polish people and polish workers, polish peasants sheltered millions of our people, so we must think about them as well, well, this is my position. denis, explain to me

if there is already an official answer, even from the ministry of agrarian policy, mykola solsky said so, he says, they demand inspections of ukrainian grain, well , it’s a small problem, let our colleagues check, we are not afraid of inspections, explain , what do they want to check, do they have complaints about the quality of agricultural products, or what is the point of these checks? well, actually, this an excuse, an excuse to delay, an excuse not to give the opportunity to timely deliver ukrainian products to those counterparties in europe who expect ukrainian grain, and we had such a history of negotiations with the first signals when they talked about banning the import of ukrainian products, let me remind you, this it has been going since april 23rd of the year, and we agreed that we believe and know about the quality of our products, so we are not afraid of sanitary and phytosanitary controls, let's do it, but please do it promptly, and not in the way that the railway it can take a week while these checks are being carried out, that is, accordingly, a large in...

non-fulfillment of contracts, ma'am, and all this again leads to the fact that ukrainian business, i mean the ukrainian goods manufacturer, does not receive the money for its products, so these things , they are to a greater extent... on slowing down the timely delivery of ukrainian products, hence the disruption of contracts, and therefore the offers of poland, which can then sell its products in these places where ukraine works, so what we are threatened with, we actually really, as the minister said, don't be afraid , we are responsible for our quality, moreover, remember, there were never any complaints about ukrainian quality until the moment of these first promotions, which began in april 23, the world is happy to buy ukrainian products, because they are of high quality available and from the point of view of logistics, if we are talking about the sea, delivery to any continent of the world, well, here it is important to understand, and i think that our viewers should clearly understand this again, that here are many ukrainian products, about which there were complaints , what you you are collapsing our market, you are dumping , well, as far as i understand, ukrainian farmers

sold to traders, who bought it cheaper, because there was a need to sell this grain, even if at least someone could save at least a penny, don't burn it, even then they sold it for by others prices again on the markets of poland or the european union, so perhaps these farmers should, if they, if they do it consciously, and not, as they say, at the behest of this mp rafal makler, who works there, works part-time for russia, then then explain why you block us, go block those businessmen of yours, as you call them there, who sell it themselves, well, actually working against you, i want you, mr. denis, to explain it more because, again, there is such confusion here , no one knows who sold where, to whom, and who was actually to blame in this story, and what is more ukrainian farmers, what they have blamed before polish farmers who have subsidies from the european union, from their government and many, many others, as they say, pluses, which ones, about which ukrainians farmers can only dream, yes, mr. vasyl, you are very right in the context that

why is the question about ukraine, because we were promised to make public the lists of those companies that allegedly sell extremely large volumes to the territory of poland, but in fact in 10 months of this.. . such lists were not made public, moreover, for 10 months we have had an embargo on the sale of the ukrainian grain oil group inside poland, that is, we do not have the right to sell anything, we use it exclusively as a transit, and indeed, when the first discussions of this issue were still beginning in the summer and the prosecutor's offices of various voivodships inquired about the fact that there was no place to send ukrainian products there, we said that these campaigns were made public to us, let's deal with them together, but already on september 15 they stopped... hopes for a ban on imports, the european commission did not extend it, because de facto, there were no detected catches or abuses on the part of ukrainian products that saturated the market. instead, for some reason, no one talks about russian products that oversaturate the european market, which is really causing the price collapse today, because the largest exporter

of the grain group, the aggressor country of russia today supplies a lot to the eurozone and in particular to poland, if you look at the analysis conducted by the journalists of radio... freedom, they clearly indicated that during january 22nd to august 23rd, various types of agricultural products from the territory of russia were transferred to poland, about 12 million tons to poland , no more than four million tons of ukrainian, and we wonder whether ukrainian products today become the stumbling block due to which prices collapse, probably not, sir grigory, look, you, mr. denys, actually showed how it is, it’s already political... motivated injustice, and here all kinds of confederations with mecklers are running in poland, others, putinites are running in other territories of border ukraine, and we get blockades there, hungary, romania, at a certain time, the czechs left, how about you, as a farmer, can you

find arguments for those farmers who were actually led by politicians, well, meckler... just gives the same populist slogans as here at our always stupid ukrainian elections, you know what they are standing there with, there it is written, here the gentlemen are getting fat, and we are poor, there we are going bankrupt, but with such stupid slogans, they stand there and block, and then they are twisted by politicians and pour ukrainian, for example, grain, whatever you can, here you are as a farmer, just a farmer the polish could be told in such a way that his head became enlightened, and he was not a dull tool in his hands. such brokers, look, this is already the fact that what i said, there is no other way than dialogue , no other way than clarification and conducting conversations with our polish colleagues, i think that there are units of polish politicians and units of polish farmers who want

trouble in ukraine, the majority of poles understand the situation in which our state has fallen, so i call on all... those people who are responsible for this in the state and simply have a moral, moral responsibility, as agricultural producers, to conduct outreach . it won't work like that, mr. grigoriyu, well, some uncle in a suit will come, and from the ukrainian government, and what will he say to the farmers on the border, well, no will convince, on the other hand, the point is, the point is that the uncle is in a suit, they wo n't understand, but i already said that we have a large number of non-governmental organizations and just simple, simple peasants, simple farmers who have to go for a dialogue with our colleagues from poland, and in this regard. to work also to work at the level of the european union, at the level of the european

commission, and yet which, which is not their right, but there must be order, there must be discipline, and it must first of all work in democratic states. sir grigory, you know, i will ask you about one more thing, as a farmer, as part of the work on the second reading of the law on mobilization, there was also an agrarian part, because... they want agricultural machinery, and it has medium and large, so that it is treated as, i don’t know, as jeeps, as armored personnel carriers, there it is registered with the tsk, and any movement, even, as they say, between districts or regions, must also be somehow regulated, that's the norm, and we don't know if it's good, right, wrong, are these scarecrows that are already being dispersed now, or can this really be the case? do you know about it and how will it work? well, that is, did the district tsc from your

district already contact you and say: "mr. grigory, what do you have there? let's put a fan or a villager on the register? look, yes, it was, there was cooperation, i would like to say that our cooperation with the military commander began on february 24, at 8 o'clock in the morning, this is the first day, we were offered to help with the delivery of ammunition with our equipment, our farm." and we are it performed, and i think that we, like no one else, understood when we had to leave our enterprise and our village and move away due to the occupation, and when we understood that we had practically lost everything, everything that was, if we are talking about help with one or two means of transport, if there is an opportunity for this, i am only for it, ugh, ugh, but mr. denys, please tell me, because where... we also talked with farmers from the south, there are also so that half of the region is occupied,

hostilities are going on, well, for example, kherson oblast, and half of it will be plowed and sown, and there are the danger is not yet quite in the explored mined and non-mined territories, and in this case, we wanted to ask you, this is the general picture, there are enough people, because we are now talking about technology, let us know some information. from the south, that is technology, there is no one to blame for it, yes, mr. denys, you are with us, no, in my opinion, the connection was broken, the connection was broken then, mr. grigory, for brotherhood, take the answer to this the question is also interesting, according to your views and data, are there enough people to sit down this agrarian and season, for for the technique, or at least sow now. take and sow, are there enough workers, look , i can say as an agricultural worker

who is in the chernihiv region, the chernihiv region was characterized by demographic complexity even before the war, that is , the area of ​​the region is very large in our region, the population is low, but what happened that happened and a large part emigrated abroad, a very large number of boys went to defend our state. therefore, there really is a problem with labor resources now, now, and she it is available, i think, not only in the chernihiv region or somewhere in the south, it is available throughout our country, that is how you came back to us , mr. denys, but in this case, what path do you see, that in principle there are not enough workers for plowing, to sow, to gather, that is , equipment, more than equipment, but the need is confirmed by mr. hryhoriy, that it is on the scale of ukraine, someone left, someone... how to solve this issue? in fact the problem is very serious from the first days of the war because

really the people working in the agricultural sector were mobilized very quickly because of the skills management of large equipment, accordingly, for military equipment, such skills were very necessary and mobilization continues, today there is a great shortage of machine operators, drivers, agronomists, people who are involved in work at dairy and commodity complexes, because they are trained. professional people, engineers who have experience with the technique, and indeed, speaking today, the problem is very serious, and especially this seriousness is formed during the sowing or harvesting campaigns. i... let's get out of the situation, well, many of them are commodity producers began to use and involve in work people who are internal migrants, resettlers from other regions, near -front zones, and involve them in work, train women in the work that men used to do, i know, there were even cases when women's wives were put on handicaps in order to carry

out transportation of something within the region, and today, taking advantage of such a situation, people who have various degrees of disability, but who are able to work, but cannot be mobilized, but certain physical work, are drawn into... work some can be performed, we get out of the situation , who and how within the limits of our regions, well, of course , we actively use the reservation program, you know that there is a reservation program for 50% of active employees for business, so we have very high hopes for this too, we hope that with the law on mobilization , the norm will also apply, because... if the agarat sector will not work, which today provides 62% of the total export of ukraine, that is, the main financial income comes from the work of people from the field, then not what will be done to support the army, this must also be taken into account, well, i read today that the president's office is still considering such a possibility, and to use the formula one

soldier, four work, but they say that for one soldier there should be at least six or seven workers in ideals of the hall 12-13, well, this is... absolutely ideal, but we understand that there is our demographic situation, which, unfortunately, does not improve, but worsens every day, albeit minimally, but worsens, so, well, one, one to four, maybe this, this will be the ratio, in general there is an understanding, to me it's just always interesting, well, everyone decides for themselves, the farmer, there is some big company, agricultural firm, but we understand how much we can sow, what the need will be for this or that crop, how much we can sell, so that it wasn't like we were going to have some conditional yield record again now. don't harvest within the limits of the opportunities we have now, and then think again, and where to plant it, or let's say , what will be important, it is possible to bet more on sunflowers or on corn or on or well, how is it, is it somehow expected or not? each farm plans its harvest individually, but all are based on indicators that can be sold, in which of the crops there will be

at least some kind of profitability, because if you look at the grain group, then for the second year farmers have been working hard. such, if we compare the 23rd year, then due to the lack of a price for the grain group, commodity producers lost more than 3 billion euros, and of course, the bet will be made to a greater extent on oil crops, just like last season’s sowing spring, probably they will reduce it a little bit, they will sow corn , because this season there is no price for it either, now we actually have a lot of transitional residues, but the producers do not sell, because the price is extremely low, and in general , each output... individually from geographical locations, from the possibility of export, therefore, in principle, seasonality will not differ much from the 23rd year to the 24th year, mr. grigory, i also wanted to ask you, you have already started this story, people just have to imagine, because well , you survived it, we just have to imagine that is, there is the business of a lifetime, there is your

farm , the russian-fascist occupier comes, the farm goes... the occupation you lose huge gains made over the years, after which, as the mechanism of the local central government works, there are some programs that helped you to resume activities , to compensate for something, is it , as they say, the work of each individual farmer, are there any schemes already worked out and in what sizes, well, this is a very valid question, so i raise this question and... wherever i have the opportunity to at all gatherings, at all meetings of various associations , unfortunately, our enterprise, i will name a number, i will name two numbers, we cultivate 1,500 hectares of arable land and before the war there were 316 heads of cattle, the russian fascists destroyed 158 heads, so our enterprise

suffered losses 42. an extra million hryvnias for april 22. unfortunately, what we did get help was a few canisters of cleaning products for our hygiene, for our milking parlor milking parlor and a little bit of veterinary medicine, we also got a truck potatoes from europe, that's all we could get for free. and... in general , is there any theoretical program or not, for example, for housing, there is a program for those who lost their housing as a result of hostilities, there is housing there, we are told, here for today. today, i am sympathetic to the state, but the main emphasis, the main means that the state and ours have, well , what kind of help is going, it is allocated to

the restoration of housing, to the restoration of the economy , unfortunately, now there is practically nothing to do with it nothing is done, although i still received won one grant, got a job and started already after, after the deoccupation, started a pilot production line. but farms like mine, like mine, for example, in the chernihiv region, there are not so many of them, maybe 10, maybe 15, this is what concerns the agricultural sector, and i think that it would be correct if all these grant projects, all the help that comes from various funds should be used to restore such enterprises that have been almost completely destroyed, mr. denys, we don't have much time anymore, but here we go... somehow, well, i don't know, it's right and fair allocate external aid, grants, these funds, because we hear a lot that such and such

are helping us, but somehow you see it, well, a couple of canisters of detergents for sanitation and potatoes, that’s good, but that’s not what the song is about, that’s about it in this case, it should be done centrally through the association, on the contrary, it is not necessary to try some kind of government. that is to allocate and whether, for example, our foreign partners consider this assistance in the form of new technologies, or as well as technology, for example, they squeezed out the technology, destroyed the technology, on for some reason it is necessary to work, they see it as aid to ukraine, or it is one thing, well, for example, well, for example, the american aid of the buffett fund works on technology, and the harvest of victory and where commodity producers have the opportunity to serve themselves is different. foreign machinery on a free basis in order to sow and harvest their crops, regarding the support of grant programs, we, as the all-ukrainian agrarian council, pay a lot of attention to this, and it is certain that mr. hrygoriv

remembers how much it was after de-occupation by his association milk producers provided some support, help, but not everyone has the opportunity to help ukraine today and not everyone has the opportunity financially today to allocate direct funds for reconstruction, so of course in the context of... government organizations, we do our best, and, for example, today the head of the all-ukrainian agrarian council is at a forum in australia, where he is trying to explain the difficulties, to form help in the form of fund financial support, procurement for reconstruction, aid, the purchase of pickup trucks for our armed forces, this work is being carried out, but there is really a lot that needs to be done at the state level, relevant ministries, but relevant ministries, we understand, but there is already a lot. good, mr. denys , we want to thank you, denys marchuk, deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, with good news even from australia, mr. hryhoriy, thank you for the story, hryhoriy

tkachenko, a farmer from chernihiv oblast, well, it's time for us to sum up, we are still announcing a press conference with nato secretary general jens stoltenberg before the meeting i understand the ministers of defense in the ramshtainovsky format, well, how will it be... we will show it live, of course there will be a translation and so on, well, at 12 o'clock the news, whether a new offensive in the north of ukraine is possible, the local administration said, and more one enemy informant was detained, well, and plus bavov for april today for oh, there is such hysteria in the marshes with the sunken ship, so our news team will tell about all this, and vasyl and i say goodbye to you in the winter until tomorrow, a good day, be with espresso. tired of heavy and bulky saw, then the strong saw from razpak tv is just for you, you can easily cut trees and bushes with it, it is so convenient to use it

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