the harsh truth, the harsh truth came out in the figure of 31,000 dead of our servicemen, well , not only military personnel, but members of the defense forces of ukraine, i have no moral right to deny it, to discuss it somehow, but let's say that... the figure she, well, can't be perceived by everyone absolutely unambiguously, then i didn't quite understand whether it was , well, i didn't miss the presence of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces oleksandr syrskyi during this press conference, right? that is, there was a minister of defense and a head of the main intelligence department, was... the head of the sbu, why, why such a format?

well, this is the format suggested by the organizers of this meeting, i'm not quite sure why. i will say that perhaps this conversation could be more serious, more mature, if we heard about the fact that... the war will continue, unfortunately, for a long time, if we heard about the serious tests, and did not hear about the fact that, well, we depend there on the supplies of our partners, we depend on other things, i believe that volodymyr zelenskyi's statement that the plans of our counteroffensive... were on the table in the kremlin

even before it began, this is very serious, and society deserves to understand, thanks to whom, and how it happened, then i would like to see and hear the answer to this question , it seems important to me, that is, we actually have a lot of questions, i think and... i think that the biggest problem with this meeting is not that it was held, but that after it the questions did not decrease, but maybe they did more. beyond any doubt, and regarding, by the way, the legitimacy of the president after may 20, because budanov said yesterday that those who question the legitimacy of the president, after. on may 20, 2024, that this is

the russian ipso and maidan 3, even he expressed such an assumption, let's listen to what general budanov said, they expect that there will be some confusion in ukrainian society and duplicity in decision-making, and the same will be projected, projected on our army, as they think, the period in the first half of june. inflict a military defeat in the east, taking advantage of the fact that in the army there should be a double opinion of who is leading us, and whose orders are we we perform and so on. here's my question, mr. yevgeny, why won't the ukrainian authorities make a statement now, well, for example, because of the decision of the constitutional court or the clarification of the constitutional court, where would they say that the fact that the five-year presidential term expires on may 20. .. the presidential term

of zelenskyi does not mean that he loses his powers, that he does not lose his legitimacy, because before taking office the next president of ukraine is there, according to there is no law there, but according to the constitution he has to delegate his authority to someone else. look, mr. sergey, some retrospect is needed here. let's remember that last year the ukrainian... authorities seriously considered the possibility of holding presidential elections even in conditions of war, however, and this, this fact provoked only two statements: lynsey graham, senator and tinnie cox, president of para, this caused an appropriate reaction and put, well, the ukrainian authorities in front of the temptation to hold elections and win them, quickly, as in the soviet song: little blood with one blow, but...

it didn't happen, because i think sociology said other things, and obviously sociology in favor of valery zaluzhnyi said other things, so... i want to go back to the other, i want to go back to basically talking about how it was possible b to communicate this issue. first of all, it was necessary to say that the legislation does not provide for presidential elections in wartime and to explain this, because the presidential election in wartime is actually the election of a new one. the supreme commander-in-chief, and to announce these elections is to put the country on the line at the risk of a huge number of candidates, who may be completely disposable in nature, register

for the sole purpose of criticizing the sitting commander-in-chief, i.e. the president. it's a simple enough scenario in my opinion, and it is. the scenario that could be played out must be absolutely clearly understood. second, it could be recalled that it is not necessary for the president to be in power for 5 years, for example, after the orange revolution, leonid kuchma overstayed his presidential term, however, for several months, and nothing so extraordinary happened in this, that is, it is normal, in principle, it was perceived by the society of that time. nothing critical happened. next, a strong step would be, in my opinion, the dissolution of the coalition, which currently exists as a monomajority, because the servant of the people faction is constantly falling. and the creation of a new

coalition, and the creation of a government of national unity of this coalition. i emphasize, i do not consider it necessary. it is possible for the representatives of those who are called and considered to be the opposition to be a part of this government to form a technical government that will simply help to return from the currently existing office-presidential to parliamentary-presidential republic, as provided for in the constitution: war does not stop the operation of the constitution and legislation. and this can also be understood, and our personnel policy at the moment resembles a game of checkers, you see, we have the same people, in fact, if in the military sphere, we have a sufficiently large number

of generals who started the war as early as in 2014, and who have the necessary experience, and this to a certain extent measures... levels the dismissal of valery zaluzhny without communication, you understand, without communication with society, that is, what the president said in an interview with fox news, this is not enough in my opinion, well, he said this after the fact after the release of zaluzhny, but at the moment acute crisis, it was communicated in such a way that it is, as he said, responsible. for all information in the president's office, adviser to the head of the president's office, i emphasize the position so that we understand the degree of responsibility, adviser to the head of the president's office, mykhailo podolia, what will be

conduct an audit of zaluzhnyi's activities, and he made mistakes at the tactical level, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. he cannot make mistakes at the tactical level, because he makes decisions at the strategic level, you see, a small lie creates a lot of distrust, and we have already heard the thesis about maidan 3, we have heard, it happened before, and remember, once before the large-scale invasion of they tried to glue rinat akhmetov to it, it was like that, however, now we will face it again and... we will be told again that everyone who not happy with the government, that russian agent , well, let's call everyone russian agents, i have two books on hybridity and dozens

of public speeches about what russia is, in principle, i am ready to answer questions about russian influence in my way... well, let's hope that there will not be foreign agents like in russia, because soon we can get to that, well, if, if there are such. the question of the legitimacy of the president and they will articulate it as the influence of russia, here we are today we are talking to you on the air and they will say, well, magda and rudenko are some agents of the russian federation who are trying to say this on tv, but budanov himself is talking about it, zelensky is talking about it, and i can’t help but ask you about the story with poland, we all saw how on friday our delegation headed by shmyhal went to the border to poland to meet with donald tusk and his polish colleagues, but then it turned out that they did not come, although they were not

supposed to come, but they came, took a picture, said, well, we came, them no, you see, they don't want to solve this issue. president zelenskyi spoke about this yesterday and said that the problem of blocking the polish border has a political basis, but ukraine aims to solve this issue. let's listen to what zelensky said. to use ukraine as pressure on... on european institutions is simply unfair, that's what i'm talking about. i believe that the prime ministers will find appropriate steps. i, as the president, simply say openly that it is very important for us to preserve the union with poland, and if steps will not be found, then we will protect our business. i know, mr. yevgeny, that you... were literally in poland during the last month and spoke at a conference there, that

the poles themselves speak about this and in your opinion, was it somehow possible in this situation to do without these performances at the ukrainian-polish border, when our government officials were waiting for someone who was not supposed to come? i will try to explain what is happening in several abstracts, because i am closely following this situation. well, first of all, local elections will be held in poland on april 7, and their significance for poland, i think, is not much less important than the parliamentary elections. secondly, the positions of the peace confederation are strong in the areas bordering ukraine. and expect that the law enforcement officers will be active there, accordingly. well, we understand that with... a month and a half before the elections, such pressure will have negative consequences, what is shown

now with the wagons, by the way, is near the city of bydgoszcz, it is far from the polish-ukrainian border, as far as i understand, and this is what is done purposefully, because we see which the volume of grain was simply thrown on the ground, i will remind you one more point, an important point, that for european farmers... in the history of their protests , it is in principle normal to dump their products on the ground, and milk is thrown away, and fruit was thrown under tractors, well there was a lot of all kinds of different things, and in principle, this is a significant, significant factor, but... believe me, i did not understand what kind of combination it was, when

at the same time there was this photo, as if it was a spare warehouse of the 95th quarter, on the border with poland, and together in parallel, five points from denys shmehal, which are rational enough to be discussed , you understand, but you have to understand that the situation is always perceived... comprehensively by our partners too, and, unfortunately, they have attitudes, i heard about this in poland, attitudes towards ukraine, they began to change last year, because the problem of ukrainian grain on the polish market, remember, it appeared back in april 23, when volodymyr, we have 30 seconds on the air, if you can insert it, i will come back then to what we have to do in my opinion, we have to… by joint efforts with our polish friends to look for an opportunity to convey these

issues, to look for joint ways out of these problems and to understand that we must conduct a dialogue and we must not allow the destruction of polish-ukrainian relations, this is absolutely not in our interests, thank you, this there was yevhen magda, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel and on our platforms. today we ask you about this, do you believe that this year will be a turning point for ukraine? let's look at the results of the 50 on 50 tv poll, by the way it's the same on youtube. in the second part of our program. there will be political experts viktor boberenko, oleksiy globutsky and volodymyr fisenko, stay tuned to our channel. hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is

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good health to you. oleksiy holobutsky - political technologist, deputy director of the situation modeling agency. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you and i am glad that you are with us today. volodymyr fesenko, political scientist, chairman of the board of the center for applied political research, penta. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. i congratulate you. well, as we ask our viewers whether they think or believe that this year will be a turning point for benefit of ukraine, and we already formulated this question based on the results of zelenskyi's final press conference yesterday and what the leaders of the ukrainian state said, so i will also ask you in the format of a blitz survey, whether you think that the 24th year will be a turning point in favor of ukraine. mr. oleksiy, let's start with you. we have some problems with

the sound. mr. volodymyr, please. in my opinion. we will know which year is the turning point in this war only after the war is over, but last year we all thought that the 23rd year will be a turning point, but it didn't happen as expected, so let's not rush to conclusions, but this year will be decisive to a large extent, i don't know how decisive, but decisive for the future for the further development of the war. thank you, mr. viktor, i... think that all armies, all societies are getting tired of war, our armed forces of ukraine are getting tired of war, our society is getting tired, but we have more motivation, so we will not get tired as soon as the russian federation, i think so, uh, when the united states has an election, and we

we will know that by the 25th year everything is fine with us, everything will be fine with us, and at least, if not this year, then the next year will be... thank you, mr. viktor, mr. oleksiy, will the 24th year be a turning point for in favor of ukraine? well, you know, historians are still debating which year was the turning point in world war ii, 42 or 43, it's been 80 years, i think that's really a question for the future, you mean the answers to that question, the question of the future. well, yes, of course, and all other questions, why the victory, whether there will be victory, maybe we won't be interested in this issue at all, because there will be no ukraine, no one to ask, and so on, so it's me in general. listen, you know, sometimes i really like to look at the forecasts of all, well, a large number of experts , who gave en masse at the end of the 21st year for the 22nd year, but

if you want to laugh really hard, you have to look at it from time to time, so at such i don't answer questions at all, i don't want to answer them. thank you, mr. oleksiy, on february 25 , a large forum was held with the participation of the leaders of the ukrainian state and a large press zelenskyi, communication with society, which is constantly, or the lack of such effective communication, which zelenskyi's team was reproached with, they tried to decide, on this very day, what zelenskyi's team managed to tell and what it failed to do, in your opinion, gentlemen, i, how is it everything looked, did you get answers to your questions, not as political technologists and politicians. experts, but as people, citizens of the ukrainian state, did you get the answers there to the questions that you personally have, mr. viktor, let's start with you,

well, the most important thing is that if, when summing up, they talk about the prerequisites of what happened, and for me, the biggest expectation would be for zelensky to say, what happened that we didn't go to the barbecue. er, why so, they didn't trust us all as little children, and then they claimed already at the beginning of the war that they couldn't tell people the truth, otherwise panic would start, yes, then, considering all this, well, that was not enough for me, but, well, i understood that it would be like that, that the office of the president... and zelenskyi, they have already formed, some have formed, well , a person has a behavioral strategy, but when you get into

a collective, you form a behavioral strategy shared with the collective, with the environment, for example, you get into a collective of misogynists, and over time you start to behave the same way, yes, or vice versa, and that's why we have a president, a narcissist... and his whole environment has become narcissistic, and they can't apologize, they can't afford to say that they did something not so, that's why the whole press conference, it was, if something is good somewhere, well done, zelenskyi well done, if there is something else, then throwing arrows in other directions, there the parliament is responsible for that, here the military, there something else, here is zelenskyi or... or they don’t mention him, yes, thank you, mr. viktor, mr. volodymyr, but what exactly was the purpose of this forum in your opinion, and communication

in this way, that is, for the leaders of the ukrainian state to talk about the two years of the great war , about the results, and why not about 10, because well, there is also a question, because we have been at war for 10 years, and probably we need to talk about that too. and to remind very often, including ukrainians, because ukrainians, most ukrainians believe that two years ago the great war began, although we have been in the war for 10 years, and it is worth reminding, because the perception, if it was for an external audience, it is completely different when we say that we have been at war with russia for 10 years, well , first of all, i would like to remind you that no one forgets that it has been 10 years, and zelensky, by the way, corrected someone, it seems to me at... a conference that not only two years of war, yes, so i think it would be unfair to say that now only about two years of war, but in the perception of most people, in fact,

the real war, the great war, it has been going on for exactly two years, because it happened, unfortunately, that after the 15th year, not in the 19th, after the 15th year, they began to perceive this war as a war in the donbass, as a local war, i remember from those times how... foreign journalists who came from the donbass to kyiv, everyone was surprised, well, the city lives a peaceful life, supposedly there is no war, so this is actually a question not for the authorities, but also for society, but regarding the forum, well, in general, this is about the narcissist president, well, first of all, let 's not forget, our war with putin is not over yet, let's wait, this is my call to the opposition, supporters of the opposition, let's wait with the war inside the country. because some people want to fight with zelenskyi more than with putin, i think it is premature, we have not yet won the war, the war is not over, and i agree with oleksii that it is still unknown what it is

for... if we start fighting inside the country among ourselves, then we will lose the war, but let's not forget that, but what about the narcissists, almost all of our presidents and most of the prime ministers were narcissists, not only zelensky, this is the nature of politicians, regarding these forums, i did not watch the forum, i know that it was timed to the second anniversary of the war , it was an unconditional pr action, somewhere report, plans somewhere. for the future, in my opinion , it would be better to hold a discussion with civil society workers, frankly, a critical discussion, because many problems have accumulated, it was rather a presentation, a presentation of government officials, a presentation of government programs, this is also necessary, it is necessary for people to know what is planned, what will be done, there were interesting news from some people, but i am

a fan of slightly different formats. regarding the president's press conference, this press conference was better than the final one at the end of last year, the president was more prepared. in general, when it comes to issues of war and foreign policy, he is more on topic than what concerns issues of domestic policy, this is very noticeable. i liked the fact that despite all the problems that currently exist at the front and in foreign policy, especially regarding american aid, and he spoke about it frankly, directly, the zincs were realistic , but the president did not lose emotional confidence, this is important, because now many people are depressed and in negative feelings, so for society to show confidence that we will not give up, we will continue our struggle, this is very important, mr. oleksiy, have you received answers to your questions that you had, how do you perceive yesterday's action and... and

it is clear that you obviously have some certain conclusions about what she did right team, what's wrong? well, i think that the office of the president is absolutely pissed off at the fact that i think that in general, any guarantees, whether successful or unsuccessful, are mine as a citizen, not as experts, because it is very difficult due to the prism of all these relations to specific individuals, well, nothing new for me except with... of course, from the most terrible numbers , these are the numbers of our losses, this is new to me, that is, well, i heard from certain sources, it does not match a little, of course, but let's hope, well, i'm saying here, not even no, don't hope, word does not fit, because 31 00 is terrible number anyway, it's a terrible number, this little town that's been destroyed is completely empty, yes. and what is this for, well, i

have questions, why they didn’t tell me for two years, that is, i understand the answer, why they decided now, this is a response to society’s request, and how much it satisfied society, the sociology of the future will show that, it ’s difficult for me, i absolutely objective here, i understand that i live in a certain bubble, my 90% bubble. people, unfortunately, do not believe this figure, again, absolutely, the majority does not believe absolutely without arguments, because in principle they do not believe, probably , zelensky himself, but this is another question, and the second is this, this is about the counteroffensive plan that ended up on putin's table, so of course this is a statement that should have some kind of continuation , it is desirable that it be a continuation at

the press conference itself, but if in two or three weeks there is no continuation, then it somehow looks very strange, because after all , it is a circle of people who had a relationship with the development and familiarization with this plan, after all, he enough runaway, i want to believe it, and these plans were still discussed in protected, i think, i want to believe in protected premises, and when such information appears from the president, i want it to be the pinnacle of some kind of investigation, so with the conclusions , well, at least with some , well, with an understanding of the fact, from which side this leak came from, yes, if it is just a statement to show the population, to give an answer, why the counteroffensive failed, well, it seems to me that apart from the fear that we do not have quite correct there, let's say so, about calculations about himself...