about aid to other states, instead, jake salevan said in an interview with cnn that the russian dictator putin will win every day until the house of representatives of the united states of america congress approves a new package of aid to ukraine. let's listen to what the adviser to the president of the united states of america , joseph biden, jake salevan said. the reality is that... putin wins every day that ukraine does not get the resources it needs, and ukraine suffers. and there is a strong bipartisan majority in the house of representatives that is ready to pass this bill if it is brought up for consideration. and this decision rests on the shoulders of one person. history is watching to see if speaker johnson will bring this bill up for a vote. if he does, the bill will pass and ukraine will get what it needs to achieve.

success, if not, we will not be able to give ukraine the tools it needs to stand up to russia, and putin will be the main beneficiary of that. jake sullivan says the right words, but ladies and gentlemen, what is the problem with ukrainian the question hung in the congress of the united states of america, it is exclusively an internal american question, or is it because... that this is how it is happening now, and there is some fault on the part of the ukrainian side, that the ukrainian side may not have emphasized something, explained it incorrectly, or we are now hostages of this big pre-election campaign, which is unfolding right before our eyes, and we see that every day trump stamps some statements and talks, he also talks about ukraine, he talks a lot, this is one of the topics that the former president of the united states talks about of america, who hopes to be re-elected. for

the position of president of the united states of america , mrs. maria, how do you perceive all these discussions, it is already the third month, if i am not mistaken, all these discussions continue, and we are waiting, waiting for this, help, and it all boils down to what we are losing at the front, and what they do not do, as a result , affects ukraine. mr. sergey, you have already mentioned several reasons, i think that the first one is at risk in principle not only critical. the important help of the united states of ukraine, in fact, we did not report that among the messages is what is at risk in principle, such world leadership positions of the united states of america, and the interests of the united states and their influence on world processes, on democracies, on new democracies, in particular in europe, and therefore i think that it is extremely important that this meeting took place and... what messages each

side is saying, because the enemies and competitors of the united states of america are looking at it, and i mean not only the russian federation now, but secondly, what you say, ukraine has not finished, to me i really wish we were the previous year used more the participation of state institutions, especially our legislative body, the parliament of the country, in working with the congress, and worked with both parties, we ... did not work enough, and this, unfortunately, was hindered by such a short-sighted policy, which is only aimed at elections, where we see, well, they are still not allowed to carry out interparliamentary activities in different countries of the world, including not only representatives of european solidarity, but we also saw the voice and other representatives of the faction, i would very much like that we all after all, they learned their lessons and understood that...

the last year, when we see, well, such heat in the american elections, that is, we did not fulfill the time before the elections properly, no one speaks and does not belittle the work of the institution of the president of ukraine, or the executive branch authorities or civil society, but still, as far as the parliamentary component is concerned, it was not at a sufficient level, plus it was not balanced and was not represented in a... let's say in a multiparty system, because for the democracy of the united states, for such democratic ones the principles that the united states stands for, the role of the opposition, well, it matters, and i would like us to learn the same lessons and not repeat such mistakes, not in the united states, not in the european union, because you are really right, now a lot of elections will be held this year, and we are becoming such a factor... in pre-election races,

that is, it is still important to actively work in various directions before the elections, to state our positions and then. you know, between drops during election campaigns to pass, but protecting ukrainian interests, so again, when we now saw the meeting between the speaker and the president and other representatives and the senate, you know, they should realize that the issue is not only the elections, but really the world leadership of the united states, its ability, the ability to influence... world decisions, and i think right now the biden administration, well, it's doing , trying to show, yes, here's the real leader, it's the biden administration, we see the speakers, and actually it has to show who

now, well, the real president of the united states, de facto, well, if the policy is defined by trump, because you just said the same thing, he has daily statements there. and everyone else, that is, i hope for a strategic decision that everyone not only listened to each other, but also heard, because again, the issue is not only ukraine, the issue in principle in the world recovery, to show that democracy is a strong tool, thank you, ms. maria, mr. oleksandr, what... is missing for this decision to be made? but first of all i would like to to emphasize that parliamentary diplomacy here worked 100%, that is, there were a lot of delegations of various levels, and parliamentarians took

the most active part in it, within the framework of, for example, the osce parliamentary assembly, and direct business trips to washington, ee... all this took place in very different formats, the question is different, the question is that aid to ukraine became a hostage of the internal political struggle, before the pre-election struggle between, in fact, republicans and democrats, we understand, we really appreciate what we have bipartisan support, and most republicans, they, well, adhere to, shall we say, reagan's foreign policy philosophy. and they support ukraine , they understand what the consequences may be, if ukraine does not receive help from the united states in a timely manner, they are very well aware of all this, but there is a small group among republicans for whom

the issue of political struggle is higher than the issue of security , issues of national security interests, including those of the united states, and unfortunately... here the issue of assistance the help of ukraine has become a hostage of this struggle, this is the main problem. thank you, mr. oleksandr. ms. oksano, over the past few weeks, we have seen the activity of ukrainian diplomacy, well, not parliamentary diplomacy in this situation, we see that, in principle , ukraine demonstrates that it is ready to call and take steps for a meeting in order to receive this... important help from of the united states of america, because for americans this is an election campaign in the united states of america, issues, domestic issues, for us this is literally a matter of life and death sense of the word, and it is clear that in the current situation it is very important for ukraine

to receive this aid package, since the russians are now trying to seize the initiative from the ukrainians on the eastern front, what else can ukraine do? to do in order to convince the americans that, well, this is so necessary and so necessary, the president gave a long interview to the american television company fox news, it is still possible some, well, what can happen, do we need to work personally with each congressman, senator there and to convince everyone that it is it is necessary that this is literally, as i said, a matter of life and death for ukrainians. you know, i will say that last year there were signals from the summer that there would be a problem in the autumn with the allocation of aid in the congress to ukraine, and in principle these signals were transmitted a little here and here to ukraine and all the risks were not fully calculated. if we

are talking about what we can do, well , first of all, we are talking about the urgency of the topic of ukraine, which should be every day. and this relevance should be raised not only on at the diplomatic level, at the information level, both there and there, even more can be done than is done today. and if we are talking about the information level, we perfectly understand that, of course, we should not compete with the funds allocated by russia, but to prescribe such a strengthened communication plan through all possible forms of communication, through the ambassador, through diplomats from previous years who have personal contacts, through the parliament, through a group that should simply be in this... america and every day forgive, meet and see off some congressmen who today

are not ready to vote , to communicate, to go to their constituencies, to their states, to hold meetings there through ukrainian diasporas, and in this way to continue this monotonous daily work, that is, there are a number of people who, in principle , learned that this is their function , this is their job, and they should... they should be doing it, a lot of small countries that had economic problems, etc., they gained attention precisely because they involved both the public and the politicians as much as possible, because politicians also react in the first place on what is happening in their states, how many people come to them, but all this needs to be organized much better, and after all, the information campaign, we need to convey much more... information to the american people, what is the aid of the united states to ukraine

, first of all, about the fact that this is an investment of funds in the americans in america, in their economy, in their weapons, which are being modernized, and not such a large share of these funds already goes directly to ukraine for various support, this is also incomplete, and the third , to remind once again about the war in ukraine, because the topic is now a little blurred, there is a war. there are other problems in israel, and therefore the americans are starting to think about their problems, after all, where is ukraine and where is america, and having made all these conclusions and still strengthening this work, i believe that this way we can do more than we are doing still. thank you ms. oksano, ladies and gentlemen, after a short break on our channel, we will return to our conversation, for viewers, please do not switch. and what do you think about lakalut fix?

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the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, we work live, and simultaneously with our live broadcast we conduct. today we we ask you about this, do you allow the deployment of nato troops in ukraine in the near future? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, yes or no, or your own version, please write in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv, if you allow the deployment of nato troops in ukraine in the near future: 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, call, we will summarize this at the end of the program voting. let me remind you something. oleksandr mereshko, maria ionova and oksana are on the air savchuk, people's deputies of ukraine. let's talk about, ladies and gentlemen, i'm sorry , i can't react because, you know, we need unity and determination right now, and we 're talking about quantity, not quality, and coming back, mr. chairman, you and i are on the same page committee, i don't remember a single time when,

in principle, we worked as a committee either with the congress, or with the senate, with the foreign affairs committee, i would like and urge you, if you... have the influence of the servant of the people faction , to explain that it is very important to attract professional people, not just to make a number, those who have trust, status, i cannot understand why they do not release ivana klimporttensadze, but not roman kostenko, that is, you have to fight and stop all these things, ms. oksana said correctly, we did not deliver the message, but the message should be delivered by those people who are also professional and professional, one and the same, and don't you know, such diversity, so i urge you ... to really be decisive in your convictions and so that we can win together and change our approaches to work in the united states and don't be afraid to involve exes pro-professional ambassadors, former presidents , for example, like viktor andriyovych, who is also known and respected, to work with different target audiences in the united states,

because they are different, and everyone needs a different approach, and different people should go, because i you i will not be surprised if they say that part. of our ukrainian diaspora , unfortunately, are pro-trump, but we need to work with them, go to different states, really, and therefore, unfortunately, we need to draw conclusions, rethink this policy, cooperation with the united states and work further in order to have a result, and there were no such situations, this is my sincere wish, you and i have talked about it several times, i think thank you, i think that oleksandr moreshko will be decisive in this position, i think that this discussion should generally take place at... a meeting of the parliamentary committee of yours, and not on the air of the tv channel , which is not in t2, well, by the way, by the way, they didn’t talk about it either, mr. serhii, yes, let ’s talk about the legitimacy of zelenskyi, because it is also such a big topic that is now revealed in the news, today intelligence committee under the president of ukraine

warned ukrainians about a large-scale special operation by the russian federation with the aim of dividing the ukrainian people. society, for which a record budget was allocated. actually, it is about the fact that the russians will start leaking this information about the so-called illegitimacy of the president after may 20, 2024. in november of last year, according to the statement of the intelligence committee, as part of the maidan-3 special operation , russia spent almost 250 million dollars on spreading anti-ukrainian sentiments on the telegram platform alone. instead, the total budget of the operation made astronomical half'. this is the most expensive campaign of the russian special services in history. the maidan 3 special operation will actually reach its climax in march-may of the 24th year. in the coming weeks, the enemy will make every effort to spread narratives destructive to world security and attempts to incite conflicts, both inside ukraine and in other parts of the world where

ukraine has effective support. well, volodymyr zelensky himself spoke separately about the legitimacy of the president. on sunday at the press conference, which is part of the destabilization of the situation in ukraine the story will spread that he is allegedly illegitimate after may 20, 2024. let's listen to what zelensky said. bad idea. i treat this as a treasonous position towards ukraine, but nevertheless, it is a bad idea that this is a program, a specific program, there are documents that confirm it. program of the russian federation, i know that some journalists in the united states also have these documents, that is, in the document there is even money that is allocated, sums of money that are provided for one or another institution to raise this topic, well, i i follow this topic quite carefully in

the information space, and to be honest , one thing is not clear to me in this situation: why was it not possible to put an end to this story with a decision of the constitutional court, that is, there is a decision of the constitutional court that says: after may 20, 24 year before the next... presidential elections, the president of ukraine is volodymyr zelenskyi, no one will argue at all, not even the leftists, well, we have almost no leftists left, they were all pro-russian, well , i mean right-wing centrists there, all they will say, yes, this cannot be done during the war, mr. oleksandr, i know that such an initiative is already under the constitutional court, and why was it not possible to do this before, if the intelligence committee saw that this entire special operation was unfolding, why was it not possible in advance of giving and saying, well... there is a decision of the constitutional court, we close this issue, well, until the next elections, well, from a purely legal point of view, i do not see any problem here at all, because there is article 108

of the constitution, which clearly states that the new president, he takes office after elections, that is, the president retains his legitimacy until the election and when a new president appears, that is, there is no problem with the court. from a legal point of view, well , in addition, there is a certain constitutional practice, by the way, related to the orange revolution, as we remember, that is, i do not see such a need here, but if there are any doubts, then deputies can, a certain number of deputies can apply to the constitutional court to obtain an appropriate interpretation. thank you ms. oksana, what do you think about whether or not this narrative will be exist in ukraine? society, well, if you asked me, i would say no, maybe you think differently somehow, well, if we are talking about ukrainian society, then they are

really worried about the war and what is happening and what will happen next, that , which is now very sharp, the last two years there was a very big wavering because of a single marathon and another, about how, in principle, victory will come quickly. and at the end of last year and the first months of 2024, a number of news stories about how bad things are and how long the war will last began to appear sharply, and the president is constantly talking about the fact that there is information that they have, and i would very much like, if the president is talking about such information, because it is very important in matters of credibility, that one of these outsider information would be told by those who ... punished, because when they say that our counteroffensive plan was russian before the start, so they would like to understand how we respond to this,

how reliable our security system is, and whether we still have many of those holes, as in the network regarding information leakage, because this is also very important. let me remind you that president zelensky, said before he went to the polls that he would be president for one term, and that too, in the end, it was very... important, we would like to hear it again, but these things don't happen, and the end of the end, i think , that the constitutional court should say its decision , how, which concerns not only the president, but what concerns the activity of the parliament, that is, as it is, and there is nothing wrong with that, when it will be the decision of the constitutional court on two bodies that are in ukraine today . thank you, ms. oksana, ms. maria, how do you see this... the situation with this special operation, in general with some hints that here in ukraine someone was going to pick up all this, disperse it, and who, who, who questions

the legitimacy of president zelensky, european solidarity is not questioned, if possible from a legal point of view i will start with what concerns, you said about the ban on holding elections during martial law, the constitution contains only what concerns parliamentary elections, yes, and what concerns... presidential elections, there is not a single word, but instead we know that is the ban for the presidential elections on the legal regime of martial law, and this constitutionality of the norms of the law are being questioned, that is, as you have already answered the question regarding the submission to the constitutional court, unfortunately no deadlines apply here, because if even if the submission is there today, as you heard today, it could be, or there tomorrow, there is no guarantee that... the constitutional court there will consider it by the end of may, there by may 20, because it is advantageous or disadvantageous for the authorities there, that is, well we also remember the story in 2019 that...

concerns the early parliamentary elections, and there the constitutional court tried very hard, and what will happen in this case, well, i don’t know, but what concerns the conspiracy theory, around this topic, there is the winding up of society, it looks very strange, especially since it is done by state bodies, it does this if the president of the country, as you said, the only body that can interpret the constitution of ukraine is the constitutional court, that's all, no one else, so... why wasn't this done, well, earlier, this is a rhetorical question, but, er, let's put it this way, the fact remains that practically, the task is to solve, well, that is, to solve this problem, it is to obtain an official conclusion of a constitutional, as it were , a court, but why is there such a twisting of society, there are some kind of cover-ups, mutinies, there are russian special operations, well, it seems to me that

it is some kind of... or twisting in advance the decision of the constitutional court, is there any potential possibility of twisting the nuts against or the opposition, business, media, civil society, i.e. will it be such a justification between international partners that we told you there colic and everything else, because we see that the only marathon, it is still under the control of the authorities, and therefore the goal of such a company with... the authorities, the russians, well, so that they don’t promote it themselves, well , that is, really in society, in us as a faction, in the vast majority, in the parliament of factions, it is normal that we are concerned with the war, the provision of the armed forces, and

indeed anyway... and we fight against those undemocratic signals that we have to stop, c including freedom of speech and an independent parliament, so i would like such mistakes not to be made. thank you, maria ionova, oleksandr mereshko and oksana savchuk were guests of our program today. thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for participating in the program. let me remind you that we had another declared topic, this is the statement of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleb, in an interview with the irish times. he called on the ukrainian. who are abroad, to return and help defend the homeland, that is, this is an open appeal to ukrainians who are abroad, and he said that we respect each person's individual choice, but we also encourage all ukrainians who left the country at the beginning of the full-scale invasion to consider returning home, we understand that some people may not have that choice, and due to health or other personal circumstances, but those who have a choice, we invite to return and help ukraine

fight and survive with their... direct personal contribution, well, we will discuss this topic already tomorrow, i hope that our tv viewers will also wait for our program with ihor reiterovych and maksym rozumny, which will be at 10 p.m., and we will talk, of course, about what this call means and whether ukrainians will respond to this call . friends, i would like to remind you that during the program we conducted a poll, we asked you about whether you allow the deployment of nato troops in ukraine in the near future, 43% - yes, and 57% - no, these are the results of a television poll, on youtube the ratio is 62 %, yes, 38% - no. on this, friends, i put a full stop, i wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your relatives. it was the verdict program, it was hosted by serhii orudenko, goodbye.

2 p.m. in ukraine, bring to your attention a news release on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. ukraine concluded a friendship and cooperation agreement with albania. the document was signed in tirana by president volodymyr zelenskyi and prime minister eddie rama. according to the ukrainian head of state, the document will contribute to the development of our cooperation and strengthening of positions of ukraine in the balkan region.

defense was also discussed. ukraine is needed.