poisoned, then she constantly sits in a cell in a prison, then this is a murder as a result, no, he lost his health as a result of double poisoning, well, yes, yes, i say that it cannot be called that a person just died, yes she died, no, i would say that he was taken out of the world, but how long he could live, no one knew, plus the abuse of the prison that he was subjected to, this, this was a silent murder, everyone understood perfectly well that. .. prison is a one-way street, and symbolic for the russian authorities, this is a symbolically important thing, they just they put everyone in the stalls and everything, and it is very noticeable, that is what we actually saw, we are now watching a very interesting story, which, in my opinion, belarus was the first to go through, because we watched the legitimization of svitlana tykhanovskaya in the west, and now navalny's wife yulia, she ... basically follows

the same path that svitlana tykhanovskaya walked, that is, we see that yulia navalna met with biden, yulia navalna spoke in the european parliament, that is, in fact, due to such a tragic, well, event, yulia navalna suddenly became, in essence, well, an informal president another russia, with which western politicians communicate. and those who in the west are thinking of somehow investing in the development of civil society in russia, and talking to some part of the russian community that lives scattered around the world, well, they probably chose her as the main communicator from this part of her disunited russia, well, well and no more, you know, i personally feel about such a transfer of gender leadership. way with such

a certain skepticism, because when you have to go from husband to wife and vice versa, then it means that what other leaders there are none that were popular, well, it’s sad, for example, the same mark fegin, who invented the election, well, to create some legitimate figure who would talk to western leaders on behalf of another russia, well, in fact, now this idea... runs out , maybe it will continue, but in fact, due to the circumstances, this tragic event made yulia navalna the only communicator who will say that she will be an effective communicator, that is , time will tell, so far we cannot say anything about it, well at least, if it is the same stereotype and, well, the line of behavior, how in svitlana tikhanovskaya, well, this is probably such a weak leadership, which... well, only fills

a niche, but does not create any real proposal, well , let's discuss one more interesting thing, this is the american ex-host of fox news, tucker carson, who and what kind of interview with putin has been discussed for a month, and almost a month has passed, and he suddenly made such a statement that the russian dictator's talk about... nazification, it was the dumbest thing he had ever heard, such an unexpected, shall we say, blow in the back russian propaganda let's listen to this i thought this was one of the dumbest things i've ever heard i didn't understand what he meant what else is denazification i hate all this talk because it's not real it's it's just a personal shift, it's... to

associate someone with an evil regime that no longer exists. i'm just saying that there is no such nazi movement in 2024. this is a way people call something evil. ok. putin does not like nationalist ukrainians. putin hates nationalism generally interesting. of course he hates it. he has 80 or so republics and he is afraid of nationalist hands. because of this, he unleashed a war in chechnya, but to name. well, such a statement, and it is very funny, putin, who hates nationalist, nationalism, who is a russian chauvinist, and the same nationalist who calls himself that, in principle, putin is the leader of the russian nazis, how, how is he afraid, but, but , volodymyr, what does such a statement indicate, that a person, i mean takira kardson, was silent for a month, here... got out and

started to tell something like that? well, according to the cardson , it’s very simple, there it was clear that he was so prepared for this interview and he was so blinded and... pooped that it was visible on his face when he was writing his stand-up while leaving the krebel, and they quickly got away to the airport and flew away, it was clear that he got quite a scare in moscow, that is, he did not even expect what kind of animal environment he would have to communicate with, we can see that he definitely received a list of taboos that are not allowed, well, for questions that you can't ask... to give he didn’t ask putin them either, then it was obvious when they talk about the fact that the taxon earned his millions from this interview, it is possible that it was a little different income and income for 200 million views,

plus getting caught up in all kinds of media trends, but the fact that he... a month later began to speak like an american, and not like a putin waiter, i.e. a man of a free society, this shows that the fear of moscow, his some moment demoralized, and i simply do not remember to after this interview with putin, he vividly shot some more interviews, that is, it is obvious that he was so tired, twisted and, well, morally broken. it was that he could not come to himself in any way, but he, it seems to me, only now began to collect himself piece by piece and finally try to feel who he is, whether he is a journalist or a showman, what is his new mission, because at a certain moment he , well, it seems to me that he

performed a certain important service for trump, with this trip to moscow, and now, when all the burdens are in front of trump. and before someone else environment, he dropped it so to speak , that is, it no longer burdens him, he decided to talk a little, well, you know, i don't have such an optimistic view of this situation, because it seems to me that he actually fulfilled all the obligations that he was going there, that is , he promoted this interview as much as possible, already knowing what was said to him in it, he made it as difficult as possible, and his reaction. i associate these words of his , first of all, simply with the negative reaction to the interview, which took place after his showed, he saw that he did not fall into the expectations even in his group, but it is interesting, wait, wait, volodymyr, it is interesting about the expectations, he actually no longer acts

as a journalist, as a politician, because we all know that there there are talks, maybe trump will offer him the vice presidency or some other position, and i think he is aiming for it, but these are interesting expectations. pists, and from the point of view of these expectations, he probably did not hear much from putin that would influence, well, fit into these expectations, because, forgive me, but these expectations are completely anti-ukrainian, they sound like if there is a strong country, it can conquer neighboring, less weak ones, but let's just listen to one of the trumpists, i think these are the same beliefs that i tried to broadcast in this interview i'm tucker carson. by the way, let's take a look. i think it's funny for people to think that putin is such an enemy, he doesn't do anything, he just wants to take back what was his. he invaded ukraine, killing thousands of people. it suits me. well, and zeets,

zeets ok. yes, the point is that, will, that alone tucker carlson slandered that authoritarian leaders kill people. so. that is, he, he... these, look why i am here, because nothing has changed in these beliefs, he did not come out and say that the very idea of ​​behaving like hitler and attacking poland, because she did not give dantsykh, well, that’s nonsense, he didn’t say that, well, that’s okay, so he, he in general, he didn’t ask any sensitive question for putin, but in fact he tried to play like, well, like such an american patriot, and he wanted to convert into something, because he... approached the topic of ivan hershkovich several times, and it is clear that he very probably expected that they would give it to him directly and say yes, you are so cool when you came to us, we will give it to you, take away the visas, that's it, well, that's it the fact is that if

putin really wants trump to win, then we will remember that now trump is talking about the fact that he will establish peace between russia and ukraine within the 20th hour, but when he was president, the same war was going on, the war it's been 10 years, why trump then nothing. i didn't, and now it seems to me that this was such a certain test for putin, if putin really counts on trump, on trump's victory and on his participation in the break-up of ukraine, so to speak, then, eh, in theory, he should have putin so generously should have given hershkovich, take it away this ivan, take him to the united states, it's... it 's not important to me, but then a completely different story came out, when

putin wanted to exchange hershkovich for this handsome murderer from berlin, but that's german sovereignty, that's not american sovereignty , that is, well, on krasikov to replace hershkovich, it didn’t stick, the americans couldn’t put enough pressure on berlin, so in fact , it seems to me that this gesture, this, this was the only interesting and productive option when it was possible to tempt putin for some, well, for some generosity. in the end, it seems to me that really, after this interview, you have to understand where, on what platform this interview was posted, on x, on twitter, there people watch for a minute at most, even read one phrase, they don't will be two hours long watch the interview the way they do... musk and carlson promoted this topic that they have 200 million

views, 200 million clicks, yes, but no one watched this nausea, that is, it really failed, well, nevertheless, this is the story , which you mentioned at the end about hershkovich in particular, i think that it is not even so much for putin, it should be a test rather for trump and trumpists, to what extent. now he would have won the election in a single blow trump can't roll over ukraine just surrender,

let's be honest, and this is the issue, not in the fact that he is not ready to screw putin, he is ready to simply give putin everything, yes, everything, it is just a problem to come to an agreement with the ukrainians, who do not want to surrender to anything. thank you, volodymyr tsibulko, for joining us, we have another guest next, and now i'm just reminding you once again about our survey, whether the deputy should be restricted. of the verkhovna rada on business trips abroad during the war, if your answer is yes, this is 0 800 211 381, if not, 0800 211 382 and oleg rybachuk is joining us now, so now, oh, congratulations, mr. oleg, and we are already here so hot simply. he is a former deputy and now he is the head of the geocenter

of joint actions, ex-vice prime minister for european integration, and actually we have already started talking like this about the possibilities, what the trumpists are doing, what they are ready for, what not ready, i think, to some extent, we will continue this conversation with you, just a little bit from the other side, because there is actually such a strange procrastination with the help vote. in the us congress, moreover, there was a vote for there to be such a thing a special mechanism for financing the actual budgetary, there ministries of various, budgetary organizations of the united states, which for us is bad in principle such a sign, it means that with the help for the vote with the help of ukraine, israel, taiwan, will continue to be delayed, and everything in the principle indicates this, to me. given and here, of course , the question is, well, and, and why actually the speaker

of the us house of representatives, the republican mike johnson, feels so confident and so impunity, and why does nothing happen to him interferes with further delaying the vote? well, i think here if we looked into the soul. this shirt, then we saw that this is a frightened hare, because in fact, politically , he will probably go down in the history of the united states as one of the weakest. speakers, his political life could end very quickly, and no matter what decision he makes, whether he will put it to a vote, aa the question of allocation of aid, whether to ukraine, israel, taiwan or separately, in any, but importantly, ukraine, if he bets, he is in danger

resignation, because trump was against it and the trumpists exposed him and... if he is not put in charge, he will be eaten by another part, the greater part of the republicans who, who are called real conservatives there, republicans there who are associated with the policies of reagan, mccain, and well, of course, the democrats, and that's why his political life is simply under a huge threat, one of the versions of why he was so eager to go to biden, they sat there and talked one on one, in him... they say there could be some hope that , that if he puts the question to the vote, and at almost the majority of experts say that in this case the votes in the congress will be more than enough to vote for the allocation of aid to ukraine, then in the event

that the trumpists again try to make him a vote of no confidence, then... the democrats will not support them, or part of the democrats will not support it, and in this way he can stay in this place at the expense of the support of the democrats, but this is already a huge betrayal, they have elections in the fall, he will have to go to re-election, he as a congressman will go to this re-election, and in that case trump wins if trump doesn't win, he will have almost a slim chance of getting into congress again, so he has a good position. ugh , that is, his position in principle is so completely skin-deep, let’s put it bluntly, but there is another one, well, as if as a party to this whole process, that is, it also became known that the administration of us president john biden seems to have a plan to help ukraine with weapons simply now, without waiting for congressional approval

of this aid of 60 billion, because earlier there was a report that the ministry of defense. the us still has about four 4 billion in the fund presidential powers , which are and have been available to ukraine all this time, but the us ministry of defense for some, well , frankly, inexplicable deep reason, does not use these 4 billion, and as if it is arguing that if we withdraw weapons now, then there is no certainty that something will be allocated that... then will replenish the weapons in warehouses, and this , you know, this is actually a very strange and incomprehensible motivation here in ukraine, that it is necessary to keep the warehouses filled, not to take them out, waiting for something, explain this is incomprehensible behavior to me, and what can be done in general to this fear in front of slightly

less replenished warehouses should somehow be removed from the ministry of defense of the united states, well, i... and if putin attacks, that's what, the united states, you're in alaska, probably that's what the sun has, in many countries that i every time i hear that no, no , we can't give away, it's good that denmark is like that, well, it really challenged all these countries by saying that we are giving away all the weapons, because we understand the importance, but here first, it is not, it is not the pentagon, you understand that this language is formally the owner of the funds the pentagon the ministry of defense, but the decision is made by the biden administration, why is this not a new story, they talked about it there, you remember, at one time they found some additional four or six billion there, which turned out to be a result of that something was wrong with such an extinguisher, but i have always said that the pentagon, well, there is no such situation where

the pentagon and the president of the united states can... make a decision to provide this or that aid solely depending only on the congress, that is, the american president at in the presence of political will, there is always a possibility , and you can always find something in the pentagon, and they talked about these 4 billion for a long time, you are telling the truth, but i am inclined to think that this is a way, and why this topic was raised again, it is there arose in the fall, when already there... well, the funding period was ending, and the americans said that, well, yes, maybe, but it's on the extreme side, that is, it's already nz. this, if it will be bad at all, but - why do they do it, well, this is a form of pressure now on and so this gap, melt, how do you know, how is it, how

it's a chicken, tobacco, yes, it's georgian, when they splash you, so johnson , i remember now, it's a chicken, who was just put in a frying pan and pressured from all sides, and he actually can't help but put it to the vote, can't put it to the vote , and the american administration simply increases the pressure. and including this is also a form of pressure, but it is simply that you and i, as ukrainians, are struck by this, that they look very cynical to us, they talk about support every day, they say that we see the price paid by ukrainians , we see this one price, we see what is being done with our armed forces, but there are things that even they do not make official, i think that they could and, i do not rule out that this is happening, they could give weapons ... artillery shells, in particular , especially not officiating , but it's like a sick person on a drip, you know , it's to support life, so the big

hope is that next week, they're back now, and so far the congressmen have rested for a couple of weeks and are now starting to consider the budget , and you said that it is very good for us, they have first to approve the federal budget, because without the federal budget there can be no part of the support for ukraine, and then sometime next week there is a good chance that they will be forced to put some resolution to the vote, there are two options, 60 with something like billions, the resolution that was approved by the senate, then there is some such, well , the second option that arose there, as a compromise between congressmen, from which 12 billions of economic aid was taken and... and and and, and maybe there will be some other option for us that it is important that it is done as as soon as possible , but even according to realistic forecasts, it will

take at least a month as soon as possible, and then, by the way, this possibility of biden and the pentagon, when a decision is made, they may not wait for everything to work there politically, but may already then give certain tranches of aid at the expense of this special fund. of the president of the united states, which is at the disposal of the pentagon. ugh. well, i understood, that is, this is a way, well, to increase the pressure, why give a little and so that everything remains in order, when you can provoke a big crisis, so that later this crisis can be used to pressure and get not 4 billion, but 60. well, that's clear. somewhere yes, somewhere yes. but here, of course, there is an interesting story, that now we are in... already in action , we have enormous pressure on the entire front line, everyone understands, well, even the western media understand, and some observers, that

ukraine's failures at the front are completely due to , that there are not enough weapons, but this factor alone, because planes are not shot down, a sufficient number of russians, manpower is not destroyed, because there is nothing, just no artillery shells. many different ones stories, and from this point of view it will of course also have a strong enough influence, and in principle i see that it even influenced a little bit our european allies, who looked at this incomprehensible situation in the united states, if now under biden this has arisen the situation, what could happen if, god forbid, trump is elected , and everyone cheered up, well, they cheered up... french president emmanuel macron hosted the leaders of 20 countries, where they talked precisely about supporting ukraine, about how whatever could provide armed support first of all

, and there president macron said that it is possible, it may be about sending some military direct military, then the debate began, on the one hand, there were several statements, including stoltenberg, the poles about that... it can't be, on the other hand mayakala said no, it could be, after which macron again stated and said no, it wasn't a mistake, that's what he said about it, let's see what he said, verbatim this very quote, he said this way that every word that i say on this topic is considered, thought out and balanced, he said, when the first series of, shall we say, discussions took place, and for her part, the prime minister of estonia... haya kalas also stated, however, western leaders should not rule out the possibility of introducing ground troops into ukraine, as this

would be a defensive reaction. come on let's also look at her statement. russia wants to intimidate me and estonia and thus force us to refrain from making decisions in support of ukraine, western unity, everything that annoys them very much, but i am convinced that we should not be afraid and we should not refrain from making such decisions, because this is exactly what terrorists want, and this is how they act, they want to see our fear. and the only answer... is that we are not afraid, we are doing the right thing. these announcements of the deployment of ground forces and all this discussion, what does it mean, is this some kind of rate hike, is this some kind of subtle message, what is it? well, first of all, i welcome this, such a discussion, it is a little bit, well, i will open it up. there is this

a quagmire that was formed during the two years of the war, which infuriates us when the financial support there last year was 90% less than in the 23rd year of the first year of the war, by 90%. our defense minister said that even out of those contracts that were already, you know, so concrete, we got half of the weapons very late, and some still haven't, so the situation was, well, just terrible, and the fact that happened, you said that the situation in america had a certain influence there, it is not a certain influence, it had such an influence the effect of a cold shower, and for the first time the europeans understood what we were talking about from the very beginning, trump with his rhetoric, and trumpists who say, my god, why do we need ukraine and europe, it's going to hell, let them

figure it out. .. europeans just understand that ukraine is europe, and the war is going on on the european continent, and if formally there in america from time to time there is this tendency of presidents who say that you should take care of yourself and not look beyond the borders of the continent, then the europeans understand that the fate of their continent is this is taking place in ukraine, and the result of the war in ukraine is colossal, it directly affects the future of the continent, and that is why european politicians, even the same scholz, whom we are now slandering again, and why is he, he called on european leaders to wake up and significantly increase the allocation of funds for defense and germany became second only to the united states, and in general collective europe speaks almost in unison about what needs

to be compensated or minimized. those risks that have arisen in connection with the delay in the support of the united states to ukraine, and in general, europeans began to talk about the importance and necessity of much less dependence, defense or security of europe on who will be the president in america, which wasp will bite the speaker of the congress for what, they do not want to be dependent, and they started. to change the attitude sharply, and here is macron, because france, let's know france, we just ran out of time, absolutely, i'm sorry, thank you very much oleg rybachuk, in my opinion, it was a good statement by macron, but it would be even better if they started giving back we have russian assets, and on time we bought shells that could buy outside of the european union, let's look at our survey now, if we can, no, we can't anymore, then we

'll see. in an hour now, oh, in a few minutes, we will now have a little bit of the bbc on our air, and actually we will see what the third year of the war between russia and ukraine will be like, what international factors need to be taken into account, we are talking about this on the bbc live from london, i'm evgenia shedlovska. ukraine is counting on the west in the war. support, but what will it depend on? to understand it, you need to look at those global changes that may occur this year. if very briefly, looking ahead, this year for ukraine will be determined primarily by elections in the united states, in europe, and the need to fight for international attention, while other conflicts are taking place in the world. these are the three key ones.