tauros and politically, we see that the opposition is pressing on him from all sides, it is very difficult for him to explain, and why not, and most importantly, that scholz does not have these personal traits, and probably the desire to be, well, as you said, the emperor or the next emperor, and macron has it, but for macron, what is also important is that both scholz and macron competed. who will talk with putin longer and who will conduct more telephone visits and everyone tried to explain, they tried to explain to the world that in fact russia is not the threat that you can talk to putin, i have a feeling that the transformation that has happened with macron is particularly macron's realization of how much he has been used by putin and what an idiotic world he looks like for any world leader out there right now, so that it is because of macron. putin

sent these assurances that he would never attack, well, all you know, and i think that macron still had such a human, he, he hoped, he thought that they had established a relationship, that they had a warm relationship there, trusting relationship, well actually in french language is also you, and they were with putin, and macron demonstrated it in every way, what is happening now, it is very important for us, because macron stated several fundamental... things, i like his phrase the most , that russia , aggressive russia in the form in which it exists, must cease to exist, that is, it must disappear, well, this, it is a very cool flo, but this would involve the allocation of, i don’t know, several aviation squadrons, it would involve the allocation of some additional missile systems, the same, i don't know, patriots or theirs analogs, well, put it all on the industrial scale, forgive me. and instead

we hear about the potential and, so to speak, the possible prospects of the foreign contingent, it must be said that again, well, at first, we thought that macaron was just getting hot , yes, he said that out of spite, and that further refutations will follow, and instead of refutations, there were phrases like the fact that every word is verified , we have a plan mr. fix and we are going to this plan according to... now, that is, macron held internal french consultations there, very clearly put the very uncomfortable position of putin's political supporters , to be forced to justify himself now , actually ratifies this agreement through the parliament, announces his visit, but the most interesting thing to me is that other european leaders began to respond to his initiative, and such a, well, such as a nucleus among nato countries are

cautious, there are those who are active in their words, and there are countries ready to act, as the president of the nordics and the baltics says in our country, and macron just touched it somewhere, because there are currently consultations going on there, and the europeans, well, we just have to note, these changes are unheard of, these maneuvers of nato in the first military, it will happen, mr. oleg, but you believe that they will send a frenchman. contingent, maybe the french are there , plus estonia, lithuania, latvia, maybe there, i don’t know, finland or someone else, if you remember what macron talked about, that is, he talked about the fact that if the russians lead the front line, and there is such a threat putin's hope is that there are no weapons, they now have enough free space, walk the field, where they can choose some... feel for weak chains, and if

there will be such a threat that this arava will go there, as macron said, to kyiv or odessa, that then they will enter, then it seems that, well, first of all , the probability of such a scenario is not very high, but the statement about the readiness to be on the territory of ukraine was made, it sounds there , politicians are careful to talk about it, but before it was generally forbidden to talk about it , in other words, if the poles conditionally see that this arava is pushing towards poland, then the poles are already openly saying that they will be ready to defend this side of the border, that's why a hypothetical situation, but a short, short conclusion that yes, if russia simply begins to undisguisedly implement its scenario of full, complete occupation of ukraine, then part of the union. will be ready to send their troops, well

, maybe we should somehow adjust our legislation, so we understand that our legislation still needs very significant changes in this regard. changes, yes, and accordingly, there should be some decisions and signals from our side, well, if macron says this to us, then we also have to voice something, but it has already sounded, am i wrong, i it seems that zelenskyi said that so that we will welcome the presence of allied troops on the territory of ukraine, this is some kind of political statement, in my opinion, it was already such, but you were right in the sense that it needs to be supported by decisions parliament, but with the parliament we have a very, very sad picture, in our eyes, it is simply disappearing somewhere by itself, as our poor neighbors say, and also according to the laws on mobilization, in general, at such a critical moment, this imbalance of the branches of power is very

feels, but it tells me that if necessary, they will resolve all this very quickly there by the decision of the president's office, but you are right, you need to prepare for this, the parliament, by the way. what do you think is happening with the parliament, right? well, there were certain insiders regarding president zelenskyi's meeting with his largest parliamentary faction, right? well , individual representatives of the servants of the people did not fully understand what the policy of the central office is, so with regard to what and how will unfold with our parliament, your versions, why are they so actively trying to publicly, not publicly, but somehow to fool the parliament like that, well, because it is a legitimate authority, right? and this is a key insurance story, that is, it is a key insurance ground for political stabilization in case of something. yes, and at any defining moments there, even the moment we just hypothetically talked about, it was at such moments that the parliament manifested itself, when president yanukovych fled there,

when there were situations, er, what was the fate of ukraine there, it depended on the effectiveness of some institution, this institution was always the parliament. now this is the meeting you are talking about say, the president with the parliament , there with a monomajority, and that's right, a monomajority that can't influence anything politically, they don't influence anything, they don't influence the government, and the president's office doesn't listen to them at all, so in this sense, a huge crisis with the parliament, he could do quite a lot, and this is his function mainly, but the president does not care about it, the president's task was to charge them there, to motivate, search for, put in order, and the desire to stand in order in there are none at all, and therefore, this is a question of the president's misunderstanding of public administration in general, he relies on these five or six advisers, he continues to build

a strategy on these five or six, although it is already clear to almost everyone that these strategies are based on our there will be no progress either with the european union, which is extremely important to us now, or with... the preparation of anything this or that swiss conference on peace, it is foreign policy, whether we will, whether we are talking about the beginning of negotiations on acquiring membership in the european union, when the sectoral negotiations proceed, no matter where you go, no matter what you do, this formula of governing the country with six advisers, it does not give results and cannot give these results, allies are needed, and when the topic of let's rearrange the chairs starts to be thrown government. let's reduce the number of ministries, change the name of the minister or the prime minister there, it doesn't change anything either, it's just a desire, well, to imitate the activity, but rearrange the chairs again, change people , it will be the same office of the president again, look, but where did the idea

to take and rearrange the chairs come from right now, well, what , well, that is, not a year ago, not two years ago, that is , from the government of national unity, as far as i understand, the president's office refused to do so, well, but here too it begins, you understand, so that what, that is, why exactly at this moment, so because it is sinking, first of all, well, we mentioned something in vain there, in vain, or the factor of inauspiciousness also worked here, because the poira was mentioned in vain , no, well i think it was just such a bright display indiscretions and threats to this formula of state management that zelensky maintains, because this is also... in principle, about reshuffles, zaluzhny was taken away, his entire team was changed, but they very carefully follow public sentiments, sentiments show that, well, trust is falling , support is falling, and we need to look for some options, trust

there in the government is low, in the parliament is low, and my god, in the president himself, it has started to rise down, and there are no results, then someone must be responsible, well no no no no ... they have revenge with the president responsibility, it is necessary to show that , look, it turns out that we do not have such a number of ministries, there are too many of them, and something like that, but i am very funny about this, because... for my history, and i remember the history well establishing an independent ukraine , there were a lot of such campaigns, but after the orange revolution, roman bezsmertnyi was our vice-prime minister, he was actually engaged in administrative reform and consolidation, i remember his office well , there were hung in these maps everything was correct, but everything was equal did not give a result, because in in principle, it does not change anything if instead of four ministries there will be two, but the principle that was there before is always preserved, personnel, if you are... close to the king, the one who is on the throne, yes, the bigger you are,

the more authority you have, oh my god, avakov was a super-phenomenon, he was a super-minister, he amassed so much authority, there kubrakov seems to be popular with zelensky, which means that a certain ministry becomes a super-ministry, but this is not about efficiency, not about orientation to changes, and certainly not about the european one integration in the sense of state management, because for european... at the base, the basis is precisely a strong parliament that keeps the government accountable, and the government bears all the responsibility for the implementation of economic policy, in our country it is still mixed, but the main reason is that it is necessary to switch the attention to someone , you have to look for extreme scapegoats, we have never had a shortage of scapegoats, so in case of need, you always found someone, so to speak, put the weights on your feet and zeroed out, so to speak , a certain cycle, it is more difficult here, yes, because there are no such powerful ... objections, and here we return to the possible end of the epic with the former head general zaluzhny, yes,

that is, britain, well, if we take real ukrainian politics, then for politicians, or , well, zaluzhny is not a politician, for officials of such a high level , well that was the first offer ever, that's what i was offered when i resigned, it's there at the option of the united states embassy. of the european union or, her first deputy minister of foreign affairs with the prospect of promotion, i.e. diplomatically, well, for myself i understood this, because in principle i spent many years abroad, it was somewhere close to me, but precisely because of what i understood, i categorically refused, in the situation of a servant, well, it would seem that the best thing could be done , it is somehow to use the powerful knowledge of this person, his team in order to achieve... victory, because the goal of the soldier has always been victory over the enemy, but here we rely on a good ukrainian tradition, a good

ukrainian tradition says that if you are released from positions, are you there at the national bank? were you there, well, from any institution that you headed, especially this is very characteristic of the ministry of foreign affairs, because our foreign ministers change quite a lot, which means that you never get more there after the resignation of access or the opportunity to influence any decisions in... the army, this is even more vivid, the situation is more difficult in the military because it is the new chief of staff, this is his deputy, that is, there were no options, because many of your colleagues asked me , but why not his experience to use, he is real, he was awarded a hero, that is, he, the president recognized that he is an extraordinary, extremely talented military man, a military man, so it seems that his expertise should be used to strengthen the institution, but i know former... leaders there security services of ukraine, ex-ministers of foreign affairs, who directly say that you are formally placed in

the reserve, well, the reserve is like a reservation, and you will never be allowed to take a step, you, you will be, for example, an adviser to the president, but you will never you won't see that president again, so take zaluzhnyi's place, he is a young man with political marks, he needs to put his strength somewhere, he just can't do anything, create something public. was he advised by some center there, well, it is clearly not his, because this is such a public activity, it is very close to a political one, we do not know him about the political one, and most likely this was one of the factors why he decided to accept the position diplomat, but i will repeat what i already said said, for example, for roman bezsmertny , the position of a diplomat in minsk, she added, made him several orders of magnitude more interesting, he was very well versed in ukrainian politics, well, from the age of 26. in the parliament, and he was there for several years, and i paid attention, and i can say it again, that for

a person who, you know, is a well-informed person inside ukraine, he knows the military affairs there very well , but for him, as an individual, this school is probably the most interesting position of the ambassador of great britain, that's why that it is commonwelts, it is 56 more countries in my opinion. the commonwealths that are all present there are tables, london is the capital, where the largest embassy is, but the ambassador has authority when he has direct access to the supreme body, and when the supreme... intelligence, so to speak, responds to certain messages from the ambassador's side, if there is no connection, you understand, if there is no communicative chemistry or something, well , then the ambassador is the person who will occupy the premises of our embassy in london, so here, this is a key challenge, this is absolutely for it it this is what absolutely depends

on the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of the stay of the industrious person in britain, but for example, well, if someone... there is at least some kind of rivet on the bank account, then this is the stupidest thing that can be done, because the industrious person is, well, that such a portal in order to sharply increase understanding in the west, support, to explain in the end what is happening, well, this is a brand, this is a brand with a biography and a brand that must be based on a certain legend among the military, this is not the last thing, and therefore... there will be no great attention to him but even as for the ambassador, well, he, well , we didn’t have, i have to be honest, we had a lot of political appointments, but in the history of independent ukraine , personalities of such, such a scale were not appointed as ambassadors, it is much higher than a minister, it is much higher , than the former minister of foreign affairs there, let's be honest, because it is a global brand, and therefore, if this

brand is just used so stupidly. well, this is a mistake for which you cannot forgive yourself. i think, i really hope that zelensky understands this, but here a question of personalities, since the ukrainian press said that they started quarreling there at the last stakes just after 5 minutes, then will zelenskyi be able to step over this moment and even, if it is not just a question of communication, well conditionally, what, how diplomats work, you can't, as a diplomat there, you can't even aim. stra to go out there, some diplomats have several degrees there, you know, the curators who decide there whether to connect you higher or not, the meritorious person will usually have the status of an extremely empowered ambassador, and he would have have the authority to act, in accordance with this status, how this issue will be resolved, i think that there will certainly be no jealousy here at the level of the minister of foreign affairs, because kuleba

, well, it seems that he is not such a person, but will there be yermak even the first one. it is not zelensky’s turn, whether irmak will miss it, or whether zelensky will be able to hear and even there it is possible to disagree, but to perceive the information or the signals that will be sent by zaluze, a lot depends on this, in principle, britain played an inconsistent role in support for ukraine, and we didn't have an ambassador there for six months, now it would be a huge stupidity, i just don't know what other words to describe the scenario when these... ambitions, or some grievances, misunderstandings, can hinder the effectiveness of the ambassador's work in london at such a decisive time for ukraine, especially on the eve of the elections there in the united states, because britain has always had its own special relations with the states there, that is, it is such a global key position, well, it is probably

the most important and also our diplomatic outpost in the world. the world is so complicated now at the moment, a person with an extremely high reputation, both in britain and in the world, got into this position, so i really hope, i just don't know what words to convey this information, that it is not possible to simply waste such an opportunity now. thank you very much, mr. oleg, for this extremely interesting and meaningful conversation, i would like to remind our viewers that oleg rybachuk, ex-vice prime minister for european integration, former head of president yushchenko's secretariat, co-founder, was currently working on spresso. movement fair. the time of our program has run out, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues have prepared a lot of important information, watch spressa live. see you on the air, take care of yourself and your loved ones.

the saturday political club program of vitaly portnikov and khrystyna yatskyi is on the air. we welcome you all and as always we will talk about the main events of this week with the most professional experts in the second part of our program, it will be a dialogue with vitaly portnikov. well, let's start with one of the brightest events unfolding on the territory of russia federations, are we putting a question mark here for now? so be it oleksandr bolkin, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, head of the terrorist erze in ukraine, co-founder of the public year vilniy edel ural. congratulations, mr. oleksandr. ok cool, i want to correct, i'm not a colonel, i'm a lieutenant colonel, lieutenant colonel i said, lieutenant colonel, i'll skip it, yes, okay, thank you, let's still try to understand what is really happening on the borders of the russian federation, here are not statements, not messages , but realistically, because many of our colleagues says that

some military actions are taking place on the territory of russia, but there is still no real confirmation of this fact, there are reports of fighting on the border, there is a report from the russians that no one has broken through there, there are reports that it seems that someone has broken through there in certain villages, however, excellent, even the previous time, when we at least saw a photo of the village of shebekino. we don't even have that now, what do you think is going on? uh, well, i don't have any special channels, but i can see that something is happening without looking at anything, there is also confirmation from the russian side, some from the fsb, which deals with the border, others from the armed forces, they lie in turn, they lie in different ways, but still something is happening, because there are explosions, there are traces, there are... some photos from air, but you are right in that there are no materials that can show what is actually

happening there, in any case, something is not going according to the scenario of the russian federation, but it is good for ukraine, for us to break this scenario, it is good that the explosions are heard on the territories of the federation, and not as they are used to, that burning ports in ukraine are burning. houses in for ukraine, on the one hand, it is good , on the other hand, we do not have information, we really do not, i do not surprise you that in fact both russian and ukrainian sources talk about the russian volunteer corps, about this legion of free russia, because if this was said by ukrainian sources, well, since it is not the armed forces of ukraine, then it would be logical, but i read in the russian official telegram channels about some humanitarian corridors there, which are announced by the legion of free russia. as if they recognize the fact of the insurgent movement on their own territory, nevertheless, konoshenko regularly kills hundreds of militants of the armed forces of ukraine, but how

can we understand this, there is such a conversation here, how should we go between the kharyvda force, let's say this, yes, because we can reveal some kind of state secret, and it will not be very good, and what in which on the territory of belgorod are state secrets. oleksandr, yes, but there are not quite russian troops operating there, on the one hand, i am surprised by the following, that everyone really focuses on the fact that it is russian, that is , the russian volunteer corps , the russian freedom legion, the siberian battalion, it is clear that siberia - this is also not quite the case, as russia is presented, on the other hand, in the siberian battalion, as well as in the legion, as well as dobrovsky's. the corps has representatives of our freed peoples, but in addition, we saw it there, there is information that chechen battalions are also operating there,

ingush are also there, there are representatives of georgians, but still it is presented as russian, let’s say, troops, well, i i can only see, i don’t know, this is a theory of languages, but one gets the impression that someone is raising the image of good russians, raising, maybe preparing some basis for future actions or conversations or negotiations, i know that after these events , mr. feykin also came to ukraine, i don’t understand how a citizen of russia, born in the 71st year of his birth , got to ukraine, madam... a charming lady, er, did, my god, achieve name, but they came and showed that, look, these

are our good russian fighters who are fighting for ukraine, but they don’t often say that they are fighting against russia, they talk more against putin’s criminal regime . ugh, i personally have such an opinion, maybe not very popular, i get the impression, that rises uh, how to say , the status of good russians, thus , volens, nolens, but such, and in whose eyes it should rise, in the eyes of ukrainians, or still in the eyes of russians in the territory of which it is happening now, it is not clear, that, i think, in the eyes of the russians, it cannot, cannot look, because it is not necessary to overestimate the abilities of... citizens of russia, but perhaps it will be presented to the west, as you see, there is someone to talk to, there is someone to negotiate with, there are really beautiful

russians who want to. to change something, from another parties, from these statements, i heard the statements of the commanders there, uh, they behave like potential putins, because i heard when a person says that we will give you the opportunity to exercise your right to self-determination, that is, he sees himself as putin, who can give the peoples the opportunity to decide something there, in fact, in fact, in my opinion, it is, it is not a victory for ukraine, it leads... in the main to defeat ukraine, that is, ukraine, the russian federation must be disintegrated, i know that there are disputes, and mr. vitaly may not agree with me, because it is possible or impossible, but on the other hand, there is no other victory, and therefore we have to make possible what is impossible tomorrow, what is impossible today. i simply believe that the question of disintegration is not solved on the couch and through historical processes, or if the troops of some country enter...

another state and break it into pieces, as the russians do, say, with ukraine, russia is on the road to the disintegration of ukraine of course, these are russian troops occupying our country, turning into 10 states, how to disintegrate russia, i have the answers to that there is no question, i hope that the russians will soon not succeed in integrating, disintegrating our country, this is our goal, everything else is our disputes with you about, you know, abstractions, uh, mr. lieutenant colonel, a few more questions, i... for a long time it can keep going and for what? well, we understand that official statements from the rdk, the legion of freedom of russia, and so on, are one story. how do you see the real purpose of all these events, as of now? this will last until the 17th, when the vote for putin ends there, or beyond, and whether there will be a march to moscow or maybe they will act until they realize that another mobilization is being announced in the russian federation, by the way? and

in order to answer this question, you need to know what is the purpose of those who organized, that is, we cannot say now, if it is tied to the election, so that it is some kind of influence on the election, then i think it is very a false opinion, it will not affect the election from the floor at all, how long can it last until the border is closed, today, for example, as a military man, i do not understand what if we say that we can break through the border in one place there with the composition of two or three battalions, so... why not 10 battalions in that hole, let's say this, and why exactly there, and not, for example, somewhere near bakhmut, not here it can be about none, because the logic is unclear, making predictions in this case is such a useless thing, believe me, and tell me, and the russians cannot use it, as they used the so-called terrorist acts before putin's first election, these explosions of houses to show, you see the instability, vote for putin, and he

of order so it will lead to it in our country, it is too complex scheme for the fsb, because they are used to work, they can work much easier, without such costs and problems with the red cross and the legion of freedom of russia, i can’t say how they will be able to to use , i.e. they don’t need an excuse, they can come up with one, so it’s unlikely that this is the case, maybe... the possibilities of mobilization in the russian federation immediately after the elections, how many, is there any line that putin is not ready to cross, because he simply won’t be allowed it's to cross, this whole cohort russian mothers on the lads and so on. to date, the russian federation has no problems with personnel, unfortunately, for today.