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the case is to see air defense targets at a distance of about 10 km from their actual location, thus achieving an opportunity to scout air defense assets without entering their range . speaking of the software, it consists of two parts, we call it buntarco pilot, a system that helps the operator plan and execute the mission. ah, currently we already have a complex for planning missions, which drastically reduces from an hour and a half to 10 minutes, ah, reduces the time that the operator spends on planning a high-quality mission, taking into account the situational practicality, with taking into account weather factors, ah, technical characteristics of the aircraft, ah, well-known pppo zones, etc., we are already starting to test this complex with other manufacturers. including
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quite large ones, those that have been on the market for a long time, and they also produce high-quality devices that are used by the defense forces and aim to increase their effectiveness, because again this war shows that there must be a lot of technical means , and they should be of sufficient quality in order to have a certain economic netting in their use, mr. bohdan, what about your ... navigation system based on artificial intelligence, which is either being developed or is already being implemented in the buntar-1 project, what are the features in general terms, because if there is no gps, you probably use the orientation base other data? the interesting experience of this war shows that the technical means that were manufactured, including by ukraine, and especially by partner countries... they are not
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ready for modern warfare, for the modern level of radio-electronic countermeasures that the enemy actually inflicts, and therefore the issue of navigation is really sharp, due to the lack or lack of gps or its replacement, a significant number of boards were lost, we know about it, that is exactly why we use several means for navigation. the purpose of which is to secure the aircraft from the enemy and, if necessary , to turn it back, and one of the elements of this complex of technical means is visual navigation, which we are actively working on, it really has parts of machine learning and artificial intelligence, and the main goal is to see aa substrate . surface, which is under
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the aircraft, in order to understand where it is located, in our case , high accuracy of this system is not necessary, because we do not send strike drones there for several thousand kilometers, we need, there is no need for high accuracy, so the task is simplified, the task is not easy, ah, this is one of products, in fact, for which we raised funds in order to... create, test, actually in combat conditions and use, but we have some success in this. when we talk about successes, one way or another they must be confirmed by the results of certain tests. you said that this process is already underway, are potential users from our law enforcement agencies involved in this process, is there any feedback from the point of view of evaluations of the effectiveness of the complex, maybe something needs to be...
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refined, and when this stage of testing is completed, to go to other stages, there, in particular, or certification, or formalization of relations with the ministry of defense, regarding the purchase of such a complex, if it will meet the needs of the military? but actually the product itself was created in the interests end users, actually one of the co-founders is a military serviceman who events. manages these structures and similar complexes, and therefore, first of all, we already understood what the product should be, after that more than 50 flights were made, and we already understand the strengths and weaknesses of constant contact with military personnel, with various branches of the military, and in fact, i would like to note their great involvement, and great interest and great willingness to help, because a... actually, they feel a lack of
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complexes of this type, and therefore they certainly most interested in helping in any way possible. and when we talk about performance improvements. uh, we started with civilian components, ah, at first there were components available that anyone can buy freely, but actually, as a result of such checks, tests, ah, and tests, ah- and it became clear that aviation is not a cheap business for a reason, it is a highly specialized business, in which there must be highly qualified specialists. and those components that show themselves well on the field combat in difficult conditions, both weather, ah, technical, and actually under the influence of ah countermeasures of the enemy, they must be high-quality, expensive, we use western components, we do not depend on china for this,
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and on similar under-sanctioned or countries hostile to us in some respects, and therefore a lot of work is going on, and this is... an engineering project, precisely for this we attracted a fairly large amount from private investors in order to quickly make a product that meets the needs of the military. you mention primarily investments by individuals who are interested in this project, so that it will be implemented as soon as possible in the format of such a competitive product, and what about the help of the state, were there any... any solutions that helped you solve certain points related to the creation of your intelligence complex, great question, we have passed the authorization of bryvan, the main state body that , under the ministry of digital, helps to develop such
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innovative products, currently we are waiting for a grant from them, it is 25 thousand dollars, which is also still in development for us, but the largest part funding is of course private investment, and when we started this company, we weren't sure how much a country that is in a state of serious war, inflation, would be able to find investors here, however, good results, we saw that both people in ukraine... and abroad, ah, understand the problem, and they also understand that this market will grow, that those products that are currently being developed and tested in ukraine, they will be in further competitive on world markets, first of all, on the nato market, and
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at the same time, they have a great motivation to help us, as a company that helps the defense forces of ukraine. we see a lot of interest and a lot of help, the investments that we attracted were both large sums from specialized investment companies, and small parts of people who just wanted to help us, and thus we see a big problem, that in ukraine funds cannot be taken beyond the borders, and in fact there is a lot of capital in ukraine, there is a lot of capital, and actually there should be... quality projects, it is clear that there are investors who are ready to invest in it. you talk about financial capital, it really does exist in the state, but there is also human capital, and the question arises, how many people are currently working on the project, is there a need to expand, just, well, teams that can
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speed up the production of this product, and relatively speaking, now we are talking about one as yet: i understand the complex on which all technologies are tested, the question arises, after passing all the tests, the question of scaling production, so two questions: people and opportunities for scaling? and you very correctly combined these two, these two subjects in one question, because human capital, qualified engineers are the biggest problem, aa for now. we have more than 25 people in the team, and we are actively growing, primarily in the direction of production, because, going back to our previous business experience, we know how to create
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a software product with little effort, to establish management, to withdraw funding , but production is still a very capital-intensive and resource-intensive process. if we look at any productions like ukraine, nato countries, and russia itself, we are actively looking at what means and technologies they use. are established , then we will see that this is still a rather manual process that requires highly qualified people, and this is the biggest problem, we are actively working on it, we have quite a lot of vacancies, and moreover, the situation in which ukraine is showing , that at the moment the involvement of civilians in defense companies is extremely relevant, there is... a popular phrase that you are either on the front or helping those who are on the front,
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and we see that those who are involved in the development of certain engineering solutions, well, they really help in this war. mr. vono, thank you very much for such interesting details, i hope that after some time we will be able to meet again and talk in more detail about the results of your complex on the battlefield. and i will remind our viewers... that it was bohdan sas, co-founder and development director of buntar aerospace. this company is developing an unmanned long-range reconnaissance aircraft complex called buntar-1, based on the capabilities of artificial intelligence. and further on, we will still talk more conceptually about the use of artificial intelligence in different directions of different types of armed forces, because yes. or else this direction will require such certain explanations and details, because we know about the latest
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the definition of artificial intelligence when we try to tie it to the performance of certain or ... other military tasks, because i have there is an impression that even when even the elements of machine vision we perceive as a big step forward, but i think that the picture is much larger and more complex, what is your view on these processes that we can now, well, see on the battlefield using the potential of artificial intelligence? you are absolutely right that it exists, probably in society, not exactly. understanding concepts such as artificial intelligence, machine vision, and indeed people are confused in terms, in concepts, in concepts. i would like to apply the traditional scientific approach for me and turn to the origins and give a definition of what artificial intelligence is. and i will give this definition, relying on the first educational encyclopedia
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of cybernetics, which was seen by the academy of sciences of ukraine back in 1970. in the third year, relying on all the achievements of the world and of ukrainian, including the development of systems , anti-aircraft missile systems, computer systems for space shuttles and so on, that is, these were already the results of scientific and practical works that became generalized in 1973, allow me to read this article from the encyclopedia of cybernetics very briefly , it is called artificial intelligence, then this... which was used precisely in ukrainian words artificial intelligence, and not at that time intelligence. so, the artificial mind is an artificially created system of an arbitrary nature, designed for solving complex problems wide class. in addition, the term artificial intelligence is used to denote a class of autonomous technical systems (i will note the year 1973) that implement operations,
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reception, storage and processing of information. form appropriate behavior on this basis in a wide class of phenomena, artificial intelligence systems are characterized by such features as perception of external information, that is, machine vision, as we call it today, emotional evaluation of information, this is already the presence of the ability to analyze and make decisions, these systems are called decision-making system on the basis of special hardware and software complexes , the organization of actions, let's ... remember our delta system, a speech program that provides the ability to encode complex and not strictly defined concepts and phenomena, remember gpt chat, a program of consciousness in which several levels are distinguished: attention , definition of spatial and temporal relationships, representation of one's own self in systems of artificial intelligence or intelligence. will
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is the ability to concentrate and direct attention, and we come to the most interesting part. creativity, creativity is what on today is already called generative artificial intelligence, i.e., generative artificial intelligence, these are software and hardware complexes that, based on the statistical processing of information that modern supercomputers are saturated with, were saturated with information thanks to such systems as google, bink from microsoft, and so on, and we come to that, to the creation of the so-called theory of intelligent automata, thus the concept of artificial intelligence and artificial mind is essentially a commercially commercialized name that appeared as a product of the theory of the science of cybernetics, which developed at the same time as the theory of space webs, primarily for military purposes, for the same ballistic missiles, and not
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only and not only for launching a person into space, and the theory of so-called high energies. the creation of nuclear weapons , and this required very powerful computers, already at that time, and the theory of mathematics, the theory of calculations, and this was exactly what the institute of cybernetics, the academy of sciences of ukraine, was engaged in, starting from the 50s, and in 1973 , the creation of definition of this very by-product of the science of cybernetics, ee to in the 2000s, literally, the ukrainian academy of sciences developed theories of information processing and decision-making systems, which essentially formed the basis of such systems as google, which have turned into something today. with similar jpt chat and similar large language models, but what ai can't do yet, it doesn't have intuition. this feature, which
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is inherent in man, has not yet been scientifically and mathematically rigorously described. so to sum up what i said, uh, again, i made this very broad, but a quick review for our esteemed viewers. in order to have an understanding of where the concepts are conceptual, and where the elements of this, this science of artificial intelligence in military application are really such elements are pattern recognition thanks to any cameras, whether infrared or conventional television for pointing the same anti-aircraft guided missiles, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, which , unfortunately, we ... observed just a few days ago, and unfortunately, it is not ending yet, the support system of the adoption solutions, so-called, we see elements of this in
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ukraine, and i hope that there will be a generalization and systematization of this activity in ukraine in the future. well, this is an extremely interesting conceptual review to understand that when we talk about artificial intelligence, in fact. we are still taking only the first steps towards such a system product, which should really have an impact on civilian life there, and forced now also on military affairs, and in this context, i still cannot help but ask that you, knowing all these approaches, concept and promotion when you were developing your wase one drone, which actually, to a large extent...relyed on decisions that should be made by a machine, not a human, what were you putting into that project then, what, what could now
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help our armed forces in other ways, but maybe in disembodied directions, using the potential you've put into this car we 're seeing now on video. you are absolutely right, i was in a paradigm, the one i knew. from the point of view of the definition, just told, the following were used aspects: from the point of view of high-precision weapons, as i said and openly at press conferences, i rely on significant and majestic achievements of the past, that is, what is a high-precision weapon, it is accurate, it is a weapon that will not just quickly or super-quickly come to targets, but... will accurately determine the target, target it, capture and hit this target. this requires some sort of machine vision system. so, for example, for
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anti-aircraft missiles, aviation anti-aircraft missiles, these are so-called thermal sensors. you know them as infrared homing heads and so on similar this is machine vision. next, i gave this as an example, the same kind of machine vision is a radar head. radiolo, missile radar. the radar of the aircraft, which recognizes , through radio - through radio waves, recognizes the environment, that is , in the navigation and guidance systems of the s1 fighter , the principles of optical, radar, radio navigation principle, er, data transmission to the flight control system of this fighter are applied in order to. .. exit to the launch points again controlled high-precision aircraft damage, such as anti-aircraft missiles, surface-to-air missiles, guided bombs, planning
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to date, you already know, the russians have so-called umpk kits, a copy of american missiles from god and so on. now with regard to the actual control of the fighter, a high ... current inertial navigation system is also provided, well what is this again, it is not some kind of novelty, but it is simply an implementation at a promising level, which is meant, a high-precision computer must be present on the ground , navigational coordinates, and to those as long as he can, as long as there is a radio line of communication with the fighter, the fighter receives that information, then the fighter... goes, as it says in the 1973 definition , into autonomous navigation mode, into autonomous flight mode, and using its internal machine vision sensors.
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such as optical, radio navigation, goes to the specified launch points and performs a combat task, this is one of the examples of the multifaceted possibility of using such a fighter. mr. oleksandr, then in fact we have two policies: on the one hand this is a conceptual understanding of what artificial intelligence is, developments that translate it into theory and practice. levels, in particular, as in your project was one, and the situation is related to the current state, where we have to find such elements or approaches that should combine concepts with some concrete practical results, that is, according to your estimates, what we currently lack, on what we have to focus on the format of the state, so that these are the guidelines that are now related to artificial intelligence in such a conceptual way that we have to do to reach these solutions quickly enough.
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and then translate it into practical activities, you know, since the third year of the war is already underway and directly participating in the relevant brainstorming with colleagues, the obvious problem today is obtaining access to component products, which is another, unfortunately, i will say , whose production in ukraine has been destroyed and so far it is understood in these... it is impossible to restore, i.e. microprocessor technology for ultra-powerful image processing, something like nvidia, the well -known commercial name of the company and its microprocessor products for graphics cards in computers, for example, which all users know, these are sensors for capturing information, different cameras with different wavelengths, radar receivers, electronic
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devices. that is, the platform on which all this should be implemented, that is, more, you see, it reaches the level of a logistical task for obtaining products that are in short supply in the world, that is, this, well, i have already said several times that how our enemy organized this work, through the bodies known, who are engaged in industrial and other types of espionage, and are able to... circumvent sanctions very tough imposed on the aggressor country by the united states, the european union and other civilized countries. and since, as i said, this hardware base is in short supply, there is already a queue in the world, and ukraine is just one of the participants in this queue, and for all of us, our
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community. the management of scientific and technical specialists is precisely to quickly gain access to possible existing components and quickly reconfigure our systems in order to provide the same high-precision manufacturing support precision weapons that i was talking about, let's take for example the enemy lancet, i often mention it and all the specialists on... point out that, well, we, we do not admire, we just talk about the danger of such a weapon, what it provides before aiming on the final section, completely autonomous , that is, the command launches it into some area, it finds the tank itself with the help of a pattern recognition program and hits the tank from a long distance, but there is nothing new here, an anti-aircraft missile did this back in the 70s. she was launched, she
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captured an enemy missile or fighter jet and inflicted damage, i.e. the concept is not new, it’s just that it has already descended to the tactical level of the essence of trench warfare, i.e. technical progress, the commercialization of these technical solutions has reached the level that they are already at the stage of large-scale production in such countries as the united states, some countries of the european union and... and everyone knows, the communist people's republic of china, with which our enemy has very close relations also in this matter. that is, to sum up, the question lies more in the logistical and organizational plane than in any technical one, because this area is sufficiently worked out and there are many talented specialists in ukraine who have not left the country and are not going to do so, and we will howl to ours.
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