russia is preparing an additional mobilization for the beginning of summer, president zelenskyi said, who the kremlin will send to war and what ukraine will do, we talk about it in today's bbc edition. i am olga palomaryuk. spectators and military analysts have repeatedly warned that a new wave of mobilization may be announced after the presidential elections in russia. the ukrainian authorities are also talking about such plans of the kremlin. during a press conference with the president of finland, volodymyr zelenskyi said: "russia intends to call up 300,000 soldiers to the army. he is preparing such a mobilization, according to him, for the beginning of summer. will russia be able to do this so quickly to send another three... 100 thousand

soldiers to the war against ukraine and in general, what is known about the russian forces at the front, this is what bbc viewer pavlo oksyonov says about it. i think, i don't think, that mobilizing 300,000 people literally in less than two months is unrealistic. the russian mobilization system will not cope with this, although it has been preparing for this for the past two years. the mobilization that took place in the fall of 22 showed that this a very difficult matter. any mobilization system has a certain maximum. capacity, but simply to take 300 thousand civilian men, put them in some military uniform, or even without military uniform and send them to a camp, this does not mean mobilizing, you have to create some combat-ready units from them, so i think that 3000 is the figure is too large, there are also political concerns, many commentators have said that in recent months and even years since the 22nd year, after that, i want to unofficially, but in fact the first a wave of mobilization. russia carried out covert

mobilization, trying not to overload public opinion with information that people were being taken to the front. if this is done now in some kind of emergency mode, then i am not sure that the russian authorities will take such a step without fearing some kind of reaction in russian society, that is, it is theoretically possible to take 300,000 men and place them in some military camps, but it is not means that units of 300,000 soldiers will be formed from them. they... will have to undergo training and they must will undergo some kind of combat adjustment, they will have to be made into a military unit, but the russian command would probably like to have some combat-ready units consisting of mobilized. if the russian authorities take a responsible approach to equipping the units at the front, then these mobilized people, if they were collected by june, could be at the front two months later, and if irresponsible, then theoretically, of course, they could be sent to the same ones. nor assaults, which are already being talked about in

june. there is information from ukrainian sources and from some russian open sources that russia is withdrawing forces in the occupied part of the luhansk region to avdiivka, but there is no information about any really significant movements of russian troops or about any preparation for a grand offensive with a breakthrough of the front, in open sources. just as there is no accurate data on the number of troops at the front. in december, putin voiced figures of 600,000. people who are directly at the front, but it is not known where exactly these people are physically when putin says they are at the front, it is not known whether these people are directly on the front line, whether they are in the close rear, or whether they are in some deeper rear, which is also considered a front, therefore, due to the blurring of these formulations, it is very difficult to talk about the number of troops on the front line, and in the context of such reports about a possible wave of mobilization in russia appears. the question is, what about

ukraine, will it mobilize more troops, and if so, what number might we be talking about? last year, the president said that 500 should be recruited into the army in 2024 000 people. the ministry of defense of ukraine said that half a million mobilized people are needed primarily to replace 330,000 exhausted soldiers at the front, and the rest to replenish losses and cover other military needs. later, the ministry of defense'. they said that the need for people had decreased somewhat, and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, oleksandr syrskyi , said that the command had reviewed internal resources. and here is something today about the needs of mobilization, volodymyr zelenskyy said. well, we don't need half a million, i am grateful to glavkom for the audit, it is important that he found strength inside the armed forces of ukraine, and the corresponding number that was not at the front. they

will be at the front, as for the individual number, how many will be mobilized until they are ready to tell you. well, it is too early to talk about the number of military personnel, as zelenskyi says, in ukraine the age of those who can be mobilized into the army has decreased. the day before, the president signed a law that reduces the age of mobilization from 27 to 25 years old, this was called for more than once in the west, and the former british minister of defense ben wallace said bluntly: " youth must be mobilized, because according to him, the average age of fighters at the front is over 40." so how is ukraine? to strengthen the defense, we are talking about it with the director of geopolitics research network, mykhailo samus, we are in touch, good evening to you, if we talk about a possible wave of mobilization in russia, we just heard from a bbc viewer, he is convinced that 300 thousand for russia, so far the number is unsustainable, and what do you

think, russia will still announce mobilization in the summer? in fact, two aspects should be noted here. first. russia is in a hurry, because they believe that while the united states does not help ukraine, europe has not yet reached, let's say, an effective level of assistance to ukraine, russia has a chance to really change the situation at the front, to break the front and still take on the tasks that they set before themselves, first of all, this is the kramatorsk-slovyansk, volhydar direction and occupy the donetsk region in its entirety, and it is possible to go further, and the second aspect is that they believe that the 24th year is really decisive for this war, that is, they are preparing, let's say, for a change of power in of the united states before the change of administration, their package of proposals, which i believe they will try

to grab as much ukrainian territory as possible, and then offer the new president of the united states to fix the situation by signing the actual surrender of ukraine, of course on conditions. but taking advantage of the victories on the battlefield, so they can throw in any resources now, because what they're doing on the front, when we see that in the narrow area near the village of tonenti, they threw in actually a tank battalion and a mechanized company just to kill, and it was destroyed by ukrainian fighters, this happens every day, in fact in different directions, there is no military logic here, but the sense is that they are in a hurry, and therefore when we say or... they can they ensure the mobilization of 3,000 military personnel or persons? i will say that they can, unfortunately, they have a lot of funds, they have, they still earn tens and hundreds of billions of dollars on oil, and therefore they can provide for themselves even without

announcement of actual mobilization, but to recruit several hundred thousand military personnel with those hidden methods, another problem arises here: for them, it is equipping them with weapons and military equipment, which women, as they say, do not give birth to, as they say, their defense-industrial complex does not cope, and that is why experts in ukraine say in a consolidated manner, in principle, that they will not have time, of course, until may and june to equip the new divisions with military equipment, if they will create them, but at the end of the summer on they can do it in autumn, yes, well, if they don't have time for may-june, as you say... will ukraine have time to prepare on the other side? for ukraine, the key moment is actually not mobilization, indeed, you correctly said that mobilization from the point of view is more important, after all, in the rotation of those soldiers who have been fighting since february 22

. this is the main problem, to prevent the exhaustion of ukrainian boys, military men and women who are constantly fighting already. for years and this is a problem, but from the point of view of military capability, it is still more important for us not to to carry out mobilization, because if we again recruit 500,000 military personnel, the same question will arise: where to get tanks, armored vehicles, ammunition, artillery, this is what interests us and the main thing, of course, the key tools that can still allow us to change the situation on front, it's f16, it's long-range missiles. like atakams, and this is, of course, artillery with ammunition and opportunities for the technological growth of our military, the fact that the mobilization must be strengthened, this is clear, we will pass a law very soon, i think it is this the sphere will move into a more controlled and more,

let's say, calculated growth, yes, but if we talk about military aid, then the american aid is already several. as it is literally stuck in the congress like this, and without american help, will ukraine be able to repel this potential russian offensive? yes, i can say that europe surprised, that is, i counted on it. in fact , the russians that the americans will not help ukraine in the 24th year, and europe is not able to help ukraine, so in the 24th year they will succeed in breaking through the front, what they have been trying since october 23rd year, for example, in the avda direction, well , of course, in other directions they tried to break through the front, they did not succeed, now they continue to do it due to inertia, in the future they will still have to take a break, but their calculation is that europe won't help , it didn't come true because europe began to increase production, including

initiatives such as the czech initiative to purchase ammunition in third countries outside the european union, which is having an effect. already in the coming weeks, ukraine will have much more ammunition, which means that ukraine will be able to stop russian attacks, but if the united states still returns to stryia, if so, if you can say so, then we have the armed forces. there is still an opportunity to conduct and, let's say, surprises, which can be expressed in conducting offensive operations in certain directions, mr. mykhailo, thank you, director of the independent platform new geopolitics research network, mykhailo samuts was in touch with us, thank you, so how to support ukraine is being discussed by representatives of nato countries, ministers of foreign affairs of the countries that are members of the alliance gathered for a meeting in... in particular, as reported by the media, nato is considering the possibility of creating a multi-year

support fund for ukraine. previously, we are talking about 100 billion dollars. and this is how nato secretary general jens stoltenberg commented on the need for long-term assistance to ukraine? we need to change the dynamics of our aid. we must provide reliable and predictable security assistance to ukraine over the long term, so that we rely less on voluntary contributions and more on commitments. here is what the ex-deputy of the verkhovna rada said about it commander-in-chief of nato's joint forces in europe, richard schaefer. a clear nato strategy is needed, which, of course, should be supported by all 32 member states of the alliance. this strategy should pave the way for a future vision that nato has yet to formulate, and in my opinion, this

vision should take into account the acceptance of ukraine as a member of nato, because only this can secure the transatlantic region from the threat from russia. for this to happen, we need clarity, leadership and support from all 32 member countries of the alliance, but i think that the most important and the most interesting thing is that nato is actually taking the initiative to provide lethal aid to ukraine, which has not been the case so far, until now it was the overwhelming initiative of the us. i think that nato recognizes the real threat of trump's presidency for the alliance, and therefore takes all measures to provide ukraine with everything it needs, because now the help is not enough. nato is taking the initiative to form a strategy aimed at securing europe with ukraine as part of nato, and for ukraine to receive the necessary means to achieve membership conditions. that in will ultimately mean the defeat of russia. but we are still very far from that. and the worst

scenario of the development of events is a war between nato and russia. nato must do everything possible to prevent this from happening. the only way to avoid this is to restrain russia. nato must mobilize all its capabilities, mobilize its military-industrial base, in order to provide ukraine with the weapons, ammunition, aircraft, means it needs, as well as the nato member countries. should pay attention to their own armed forces and prepare them for this worst-case scenario, but i fear that we are very, very far from that at the moment. and that's all we have time to talk about today. follow the updates on our website bbc.ua. our colleagues monitor the situation and help understand what is happening in ukraine and the world. and we'll be on the air tomorrow, as always, at 9 p.m. all the best.

greetings, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the second part of the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, today in the episode: blind thirst for revenge, anti-ukrainian hysteria is being whipped up like crap in russia. uses tragedy in crocus for mobilization against ukraine. telegram and telethon. the information war for the heads of ukrainians continues. and how to maintain a balance between. interests of national security and freedom of speech during wartime. only after the victory , poroshenko plans to run for president again. what can be the next election of the head of state? friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. during our broadcast, we conduct surveys.

today we ask you about whether ukraine will receive an invitation to join the of the north atlantic alliance in 2000. 24, if you watch us on youtube, it's pretty simple, yes, no, or your own answer, please write in the comments below this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you think ukraine will receive an invitation to join nato this year, 0800 211 381, no, 080 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will match . i want to present the bags of this vote today's guests of our studio are political experts maksym rozumny and serhiy taran. gentlemen, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. so, let's serhiy and maksym begin our conversation with the bliss poll, as we ask our viewers whether they think ukraine

will receive an invitation to join nato in the 24th year. or not, they have two answer options, yes, no, maybe you have a slightly extended answer option, but let's start with you, so that our tv viewers also pick up this baton and start voting on tv and on youtube maxim, you have a word. i think that there is really no big intrigue here, i think that there will be no invitation in the 24th year of ukraine, and in general this is a question. can obviously appear in the practical plane after the war is over, for many reasons, actually one of those reasons is that i think both nato headquarters and the capitals of the leading nato countries

crossed paths when the war started, i mean a full-scale invasion russia, that ukraine was not in nato for a while, because otherwise it would oblige these countries and nato to react in the way for which they were not ready, so i think that they took this situation into account and the question of ukraine's accession will arise when it will not pose a threat, will not pose such a challenge as it could be in the 22nd year, if ukraine was a member of nato. thank you, serhiy, and what do you think, i.e. are the western partners ready, are they ready? ukraine is ready, it is clear that the current level of the armed forces of ukraine, well at least this condition and the existing weapons, are they sufficient for ukraine to be a member of the north atlantic alliance? if ukraine was a member of nato, no war would

have happened. so far, at least, putin does not dare to go to war with any member of the north. alliance, if ukraine had not made a fatal mistake and declared its neutrality back in the 90s, if it had stubbornly joined nato since the 90s, as in fact all our neighbors, except belarus and moldova , did, then there would be no war in ukraine did not, and this should be clearly understood, but now it is too late, so to speak, to wave one's hands, one must understand that now there is already a war, russia has started a war with all its neighbors. who were not members nato actually began the occupation of belarus, and never started a war with those former members of the soviet bloc who managed to join nato. and with all this now, when we look at this history and predict the future, i can say for sure that, of course, now, while the hostilities are going on, where you are, where

you are, ukraine will not receive an invitation, but de facto it will be integrated into nato . well, in fact, this is happening now, just this integration, it is a little unfair for ukraine, because we are mainly fighting with an aggressor, and nato only helps us, but this will be the integration that will allow ukraine to become part of western security. look, just the other day, uh, secretary general stoltenberg made a very interesting proposal when he said, you know, we are constantly at risk of not providing aid to ukraine because of the fact that in various members of the alliance, including the united states, constantly there are some internal political problems going on, and so let's create a fund for... 5 years in the size of 100 billion, which will allow directly, directly bypassing the governments from to send funds from this fund to ukraine, that is

, the decision on the allocation of funds would be made at the nato headquarters. this is such an informal mechanism of ukraine's involvement in the north atlantic alliance. i repeat, this is not a deura, but a de facto, which will obviously be tested in july this year, when the nato summit will take place. therefore, to sum it up like this, i would say that ukraine will receive a de facto invitation, but will not receive a deyura, and where yura will receive it when there is, well, at least a pause in hostilities between russia and ukraine, when it happens, well, for sure the coming year, but in any case, i think that we should all understand that if we want war not to come to ukraine again, then the only way for ukraine is with everyone, with all possible efforts, we must... strive for for ukraine to become a member of the north atlantic alliance, as our neighbors, who are not at war now, did at one time. well, by the way, by the time

the anniversary washington summit takes place, which is july 9-11 this year, putin is obviously trying to catch up, or at least create such conditions to put our western partners, and ukraine. in such a situation, when our western partners will push ukraine to some kind of truce or some kind of peace talks, because we see how in the last two weeks there is simply anti-ukrainian hysteria in russia after zedil terrorists shot russians in a shopping and entertainment center step up city hall, we see how putin is using this story to make sure ukraine is ready for this terrorist attack, and today the ministry of defense of the russian federation announced that the terrorist attack in the suburbs of moscow was encouraged by the russians

go to fight in ukraine. maxim, observing how putin is trying to squeeze the maximum out of this situation, and observing how until now russian propagandists and russian propaganda have been used in order to... provoke the hatred of russians towards ukraine, where is this, where is this peak value, when the russians will simply be brought to such a condition, when they will consider that they are prevented from living, sleeping, developing and doing everything they need, only ukrainians, that is, in this... ganda, where is this highest point, when the kremlin can to reach this high point in order to provoke even greater russian aggression against ukraine? well, i

think there are several aspects of this question that, so to speak, need a more detailed explanation, obviously, but i will try to be brief, first of all, you have to understand putin's logic, i'm sure that... the logic is not in some kind of obsession with imperial greatness and something else such complex motivations, ideological motivations, in a very simple instinct to preserve power, that is, in any situation , putin and his team, his entourage, his technologists are trying to be used with one goal: to preserve and strengthen the power of putin and his, so to speak, corporations. therefore , anything is used for this, we talked about nato, but we need to find an enemy so powerful. the russians cannot

come to terms with the fact that they are fighting against ukraine, they need to fight against nato. therefore , there is a myth that nato somehow threatens russia or has threatened it, and this would be an inevitable blow to russia. another mythology is, so to speak, that at a certain point this war, it has turned into a war of good and evil, and there russia is opposed by global evil, in which everyone has already mixed, and some guest workers from tajikistan, and the islamic state, and british intelligence, and ukrainian nationalists, that is, in principle, for the putin regime, for russian propaganda and for... a part of russian society, all this can easily be combined and work for one goal: keeping putin in power, but here i

would mention one more aspect: important, all this hysteria, it obviously affects some part of russian society, obviously this part very vocal, and we hear and see it, so to speak, in social networks, in some other manifestations, but i am sure that it is not all of her russia, not because russians are good, russians, bad russians, but because that such laws of social processes cannot... be involved in such total hysteria, the great masses of people, the great masses of people mostly live their everyday lives, and when the situation changes, so to speak, when the wind changes, they lean where they are led , therefore, answering the question of when the peak will be reached, er, obviously then when exhaled, when this exalted

part. already, so to speak, it will burn out, when there will be nothing to stimulate, when it will be partially destroyed in the war, and a part, so to speak, will be disappointed, since this is a natural burnout, and in fact, when putin loses his support for this part, and before that there will be new and new reasons and as long as this machine, the infernal machine works, it will work. but in addition to the completely understandable desire of putin to continue or stay in power, there are some other myths that putin is trying to support regarding that ukraine never existed, it was invented by count pototsky, and ukrainians by count pototsky, ukraine was created by vladimir lenin, and kyiv is a russian city, by the way, ...

blinkin in an interview with french channels expressed his belief that russia will never be able to seize kyiv, and it seems to me that this is yet another jab at vladimir putin. let's hear what blinkin said. this will not happen, it is not happening now. at the beginning of the russian aggression in 2022, we thought that there was such a possibility that kyiv would fall, but thanks to the incredible ukrainian resistance. usa, france and other countries. putin's desire to conquer the entire country, erase it from the map, make it part of russia, has not been fulfilled and will not be. kyiv will never fall into putin's hands. sergey, blinkin told putin that you dreamed of kyiv in three days, you will not get it there in 3 years, in 30 years, because we will not allow it to happen, although all...

putin's ideology, it is actually built around this heritage that does not belong to russia, which belongs to us, but which he is trying to annex, as well as our territory, that without the annexation of this history, who this is putin and how will he explain to the russians what about kyiv, what about odesa, what about other regions of ukraine, which he always... considered and called russian, well, this is really a huge, huge tragedy for russian mythology, when they told for centuries without exaggeration that ukraine is not just a part of russia, but that kievan rus is the origins of the russian state, when they told myths about brotherly peoples, and now it turns out that it's okay, these younger brothers are killing older brothers, like

explain it? it's not just somehow necessary there to talk about terrorists, who are still banderivtsi, who ran into a shopping center in moscow, it is necessary to change the entire history, it is necessary to rewrite the textbooks, it is necessary to tear out whole chapters from the school textbooks and rewrite the entire history, how will you explain to the russians now that russia takes its roots from where, well, if not from kyiv, then from moscow, well, that happened much later. and moscow, or from where, so actually, this is a huge problem for russian historiography, and i think that now we see such a very er on social networks of russians or on their shows, when they, on the one hand , continue again.