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an alarming trend, because, in fact, only 19% of respondents said that they check information, that is, they compare what they read, for example, in the same telegram channels, with information from other sources, and only after such a check they form for ourselves, let's say the degree of trust in one or another source of information, and actually this is such an alarming trend, which, as we understand, opens the way for various information manipulations, disinformation campaigns, emotional and psychological operations, yes, since people form in the vast majority, or purely subjective, whether they personally like what they read in the same telegram channels, or simply, well , if they check whether what they see and the information they they see in the same telegram, or there in this or that channel, whether it corresponds, so to speak, to their internal views, or to their own subjective vision of those trends that, if only they, they see. events at the front, and
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if there is a match, then the respondents say that they are this the source is trusted, i.e. if it says what people already believe and accordingly reinforces, so to speak, the point of view that has already been formed in the person who reads it, then, accordingly , trust in the source of information is formed on this basis , we perfectly understand that in this case this is one of the ways of forming this so-called information bubble around these target audiences, and accordingly it is one of the ways of... informational influence that our enemies can use in the first place? well, we just recently, literally yesterday or when there was information about how pavel durov, actually the founder of telegram, gave an interview to a person who recently communicated with putin, carlson tucker, an associate of trump, well, everything is clear about the political and financial preferences of this person, well, it's about telegram, which is supposedly independent, but...
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it is important that in ukraine they still want to regulate telegram, this is not some kind of censorship, an attack on freedom of speech, it is a draft law of mykola knyazheskyi, people's deputy of ukraine and a group of other people's deputies, it initiates regulation in ukraine telegram and similar platforms, with the fact that at least information was disclosed about the owners, contributors, investors of this or that telegram channel, because if we are talking about multi-million telegram channels that have... subscribers, well, that is, it is a full-fledged media in its own right , but people work, they receive a salary, and it is worth understanding who they are, what they are, and they should have some responsibility for information, because if i say something now, then conditionally speaking, about volodymyr zelenskyi, as a citizen, if not about the president, well, let's say he is something there should, because i will have responsibility, and the tv channel where i work, we can take us to court, as at one time poroshenko was taken to court for information about his brother, and we remember this story, there is also other information, this this is normal, and here we are aware of our responsibility. journalists who work in
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the official media, which are regulated by law and are also subject to regulation by the national council of television and radio broadcasting, right away no one is subject to anything, and as we saw in this survey, it will be important for the deputies as well, i i think i should say this, if the issue is considered that we have the vast majority of ukrainians, how many 53% of ukrainians get information from ukrainian telegram channels, and another 1% from russian ones, well, let's do something about regulation, what do you think about this? are you convinced that they will go for it, because, again, telegram channels are a big platform for manipulation, hate, black pr and leaking information for many politicians in ukraine itself, that's what the problem is, and you won't find an extreme one, what is most important, and, in fact, absolutely right, here is this one such a very thin red line that cannot be crossed, a line that consists in the fact that there is a difference between controlling, so to speak, what happens in... in this information
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space of the telegram and, accordingly, something to prohibit, that is, well, we understand that this is the limit, it is actually very thin, and when we talk about the issue of regulation, yes, of any sphere, then, accordingly, we must first of all provide the conditions for understanding, and what is in this sphere generally happens, and you are absolutely right in the sense that if we we are talking about e-telegram channels that perform a media function, yes, that is, they disseminate information that is received from... respectively , the audience that these channels read, well , let's say, these audiences and, in principle, the general public, they are not what have the right to know who is behind these telegram channels, so accordingly there is their funding, organization of work, people who are behind it and so on, yes, that is, well, if we are talking about the transparency of the information space, then accordingly this transparency, it must be the same for all media, yes, regardless of whether we are talking about classic mass media or whether we are talking about media platforms, communication platforms such as tv. temple, but the other extreme, in
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which, well, which is actually very dangerous, is, well, let's say, the temptation, first of all, on the part of state structures, not just to provide this transparent. yes, but also try to regulate it all in manual mode, prohibit something there, somewhere, well, how to influence the content, influence the functioning and so on, i.e. well, this is actually a very negative thing, especially when we talk about ensuring information security, because, well, banal from the usual personal level, it works like this, but if something is forbidden to us, we have to open it and see why it was forbidden to us, yes, what was written there that, well, according to it, it is for... rona, yes, and on the other hand, when we talk about the effectiveness of the information struggle in general, the information confrontation, first of all, with russia, then in fact we must take a proactive position and accordingly that, that the russians can potentially use the same telegram against us, as a means
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of conveying information, we can also use the same telegram against the russians, i.e., here is a question of the strategic initiative of such an initiative on the information battlefield and , accordingly, saturation. these telegram channels, which are read, for example, by russians with ukrainian content or pro-ukrainian content, that is , we should, so to speak, as they say, block the airwaves of the russian aggressor in the informational sense in such a way that in they no longer had enough time or resources to plan and conduct destructive information operations against us, that is, this is the toolkit that we can turn against the russians, and practice actually shows that the russian power machine, the power apparatus, is absolutely helpless against those tools that they used to use... externally against ukraine and, accordingly, against our western allies, we have literally two minutes, but i am very brief, well, this is actually such an indicator of how adequately the government leads communication with society about events in
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the war, and trust in reports from state authorities about events in the war completely trust 6% of the property nothing, and do not trust at all 10%, rather trust 33, it is difficult to say trust or not 30. rather do not trust 19, well, actually, when you say first one thing, then another, then a third, then a tenth, and the number of casualties is suddenly announced, and about some other events, although, again, i am not criticizing communicators from the authorities, this is absolutely their responsibility, it is theirs authority is powerful, but how would you rate it, is it really possible to talk here only about the problems of communication with society, because our western partners say to us, speak more truthfully about reality. war with society, it deserves it, because it pays with its blood, not yours, for this war, for and for victory? absolutely, here partially the answer to this question lies in the plane that we have already talked about, yes, that is , in fact, we should be, we should be proactive in the information field, and
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accordingly not react to what is on the agenda that we the aggressor imposes, v including there, yes, in the information space, to try to form in advance for... not to give opportunities to the enemy and , as they say, to impose their agenda on us and, accordingly, to maneuver in the same information space. the second point, the second problem, which is related to these figures, is that communication should be not only proactive, it should be systemic, that is, different communicators, we understand that we work, we have to work with different audiences, and on each of the audiences has its own communicators, accordingly, there are its own channels of communication, but this communication has... different channels speak differently for different audiences, of course, we have to communicate with each and every audience in its language and its accessible argumentation, but the strategic goal of these communications should be the same, i.e. these messages, they should not contradict each other, and this is where we actually have the biggest
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problem, because different communicators very often say completely different things, they call different numbers, talk about different trends, and in the end, then the authorities in the end have to simply... pretend, say that something was wrong, something was misunderstood, and accordingly paint some other picture, and there is no need, i the very end, sorry to say, as they say, my shirt is closer to my body, but this is not only my shirt, this is a tv channel that is watched by thousands, maybe even millions of people around the world , the espresso tv channel, which has been turned off for more than two years from the t2 network , without explanation, we we still don't know who did it, according to what order, nothing is clear, as they say, like in the movie about the homubra, and that something happened and happened. what, what happened, no one knows, and this is not only about espresso, also about the fifth channel, and direct, we hope that independent ukrainian media, which society trusts, and this is demonstrated by the ratings, will be returned to the t2 network, and then, perhaps, it will be easier to communicate with society, in the government, because we do not criticize the government itself, but we just say objective things, give access to information, again
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correct and not hostile. thank you very much, mr. taras, for your work, first of all, and for your comments. taras zhovtenko, expert of the democratic initiatives foundation, results of sociological research. in which the researchers tried to find out and actually found out, but where do ukrainians get information about the war, so indeed, when there is access to various sources of information. this is important, because once again the espresso tv channel, which was turned off, we are under control, there is a law, there is a council, please, but there are no questions, yes, but on the network we also no, why, we don't know, we don't know, now the person you expect every day, in fact, because he talks more about the situation at the front, and what concerns weapons and other things related directly or indirectly. with the events of the war. serhii zgrets, director of the defense express agency and leading the military summaries of the day column. sergey, please. i congratulate you
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vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. today, in our column, we will talk about the situation on the front line against the background of the decision on the long-awaited american military assistance. in more detail about the fighting in krasnohorivka and near yarom, what changed there in a day in a conversation with our military. more on that in a moment. therefore, the situation on the front line remains extremely difficult, because the enemy maintains an advantage in weapons and manpower, tries to break through our defense lines, seeks to expand the collision zones, because new areas of active operations are appearing, in particular, novokalynovo. the enemy conducts informational and psychological operations such as feeding, conversations about preparation. a large-scale offensive on kharkiv, in order to affect the stability of our society, and
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this is done in conjunction with regular missile and bomb attacks on kharkiv, sumy, chernihiv, and other areas and cities that are now close to the border with the aggressor state, so now the enemy is actually rushes to take advantage of this window of opportunity created by the long delay in the provision of american military aid. and as a result of the need for our defense forces to use the means of impact from artillery to air defense systems extremely sparingly. and yesterday the minister us defense secretary lloyd austin and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general charles brown called on congress to approve a bill on aid to ukraine as soon as possible. charles brown said that whether it's about... ammunition or about vehicles or about platforms, i'm telling you, said the general, that
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ukraine is now facing terrible conditions on the battlefield, in these terrible conditions , our military can withstand the pressure of the enemy. the vote on the bill on us aid to ukraine is to take place in the congress on april 20, it talks about the allocation of kyiv 61 billion hryvnias, half of this money, or rather... a third will go to replenish the american arsenals, and in fact , the adoption of this bill will unblock the supply of equipment and weapons, by the way, including attack camps, because the united states has sufficient reserves of these weapons, and according to my estimates adoption of this positive decision for ukraine, well, in my opinion, this time is high enough, european aid to ukraine is also increasing, this is a well-known czech initiative that provides. supplying ukraine with a significant amount of ammunition, but so far, these munitions have not yet arrived, and
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the acquisition of new air defense systems for ukraine is increasing. we know that germany announced the transfer of another patriot to ukraine, and today it became known that the german company jachel defense, which manufactures various versions of the arist air defense system, announced that... it has already delivered three batteries to ukraine, and more will be transferred in this year , the next battery will be in a few weeks, that is, we can actually say that now russia will be afraid of this new wave of reinforcements, therefore, it throws into battle all the accumulated forces and means in order to capture more territories, and if we are talking about combat operations, about the intensity of combat operations, then in fact it is in the past. during the day there were 68 combatants from clashes, the left part fell on the novopavlivsky direction, but the most
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strategically important area is the bakhmut direction, more precisely the situation around the settlement of chasiv, and now we will be able to learn more about the situation in this area, now yuriy fedorenko is joining us , is the commander of the battalion of unmanned aerial systems achilles fighting in the 92nd. of a separate assault brigade named after kushoy ivan sirk. mr. yuri, welcome to the spresso channel, glad to see and hear. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. your team, your team. division destroys the enemy in several directions, but i am sure that the operators of your battalion can see both chasiv and bohdanivka, ivaniv, ivanovske, what is happening near krishchevka, i would first of all like to ask what is happening now around the time of the yaru, because everyone is now trying get the latest information, well, what the enemy is trying to do
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actions carried out by our defense forces, in the last few days, despite constant assaults. the enemy driver did not have any tactical success in the battle, continues to storm as in the direction of the main effort, that is, the time itself also tries to go around on the flanks, how exactly is it moving in the settlement of ivanovske and also in the settlement of bohdanivka, there are lively battles, if we talk about ivanovske and bohdanivka, the fight is fierce for every house, for every street, a number of positions are transitional from hand to hand, but nevertheless the defense forces manage to be active enough hold the defense the enemy uses different tactics, i mean, somewhere he tries to accumulate personnel, in foot order, they move at intervals at a distance of approximately 15-20 m one at a time, daylight, come to advanced positions, accumulate there, and then on a larger some of them, in such periods of the day, when it is not yet dark, but not already light,
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the twilight begins to descend, or vice versa, when it begins to take off, they conduct active shock assaults. actions aimed at knocking out our units from advanced positions are one tactic, another tactics - this is when the enemy uses a significant amount of light armor. now we are resuming contact with yurya fedorenko, he is the commander of the achilles unmanned strike systems battalion of the 92nd brigade. this battalion operates in several directions, now it is one of the most important, it is just the time of yar, and yuriy tells what tactics were used. enemy, we see that the tactics are different, we are talking about the use of armored vehicles in the format of assaults, and the use of small infantry groups. now these efforts of the enemy are directed precisely at covering chasiv yaru from the north from the south, there there is precisely the desire of the enemy to find such weak
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points in our defense, but as yuriy fedorenko says, the enemy does not have such an opportunity. mr. yury about... please continue , so we talked about the first stage, how they carry out shock and storm operations, the second stage is when they break in on lightly armored vehicles, try to do it quickly, maneuverably, bring their personnel to the front line, today, for example , the enemy came out with three units of bmp-type vehicles, one unit was destroyed by our unit, another was destroyed in motion, the anti-tank guys were burned and the third one was able to leave the battlefield because it did not reach the sector most likely... that the impression, as well as the potential, then those groups that the enemy managed to chase down were eliminated, so the active defense is now sufficiently saturated, a lot depends on the number of technical means, in particular reconnaissance bpa and strike bpa, means of radio-electronic warfare, so turning to our viewers when you hear that one or another unit needs means of
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radio-electronic warfare or additionally strike or reconnaissance uavs, remember that this is now critically important and necessary. this is what preserves life, allows us to keep constant dynamics on the battle line, so much so that we really have some problems with the amount of ammunition for other fire impact systems, in particular for guns, rocket fire systems, air defense systems. the enemy has also adopted the tactics used in the avdiiv direction, and is trying to implement them in the bakhmut direction, in particular, using a significant amount of aviation, with with guided aerial bombs, trying to destroy the positions of the defense forces and... and objectively leave only scorched earth, very, very many guided aerial bombs are flying into the city of chasiv yar at the current moment, such an intensity as the enemy's efforts failed to achieve, this is due to more profitable position of our air defense guys and gals, but it's one of the key issues right now, so we're looking forward to additional
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air defense assets, ammunition for them, and of course the f-16s, which would have help solve this issue. whether the enemy will be able to implement the set intention by may 9, as it was determined by the dictator putin, and now the generals of the russian occupation forces, despite the loss of personnel and equipment, are trying to implement this plan, in my opinion, the enemy will not be able to fully implement these intentions. mr. yuriy, what a burden is currently being placed on your operators, the operators of strike drones, because at a certain stage they talked about the fact that there is a load of ten drones there. now it is said that at least 40 are needed during the day, 20 at night, that is, we reach the figure of 60 strike drones in the fpv version in certain directions. what is the current average utilization rate for your units in these hot destinations? i will explain why i am smiling so slightly, you know, through the lips, because if i now say what our rate
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of consumption in pivicopters is, it will become fully clear what the load is on the pilots , the personnel performing the combat tasks, and we are actively conducting the company from the rectorship and say that it is good for us, official the load is normalized, well, in fact, it is a bit of a joke, it is clear that in conditions of intense hostilities, everyone works. in the afterburner mode, and this is absolutely the norm, the main thing is to be effective in the war and do everything that depends on you. as for the rate of expenditure, at the moment the unit spends 50 copters per day (50+), sometimes it happens that we shoot down 70, how much are 50 copters worth 1 million hryvnias, how many targets can be hit and destroyed in the area of ​​20-25, this is quite significant fire impact on enemy positions, on his infantry units, and in particular, here you see now... a picture of how the enemy's armored vehicles are burning, all this becomes possible due to the systematic receipt of our units, in particular due to donations, the necessary amount of equipment,
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both reconnaissance and shock epivdrones, an important role is played by night bombers, but there are positive achievements here, for the most part we get them at the expense of state funding, so we always ask people to complete the fpvi themselves, because there are a lot of them and you need to have them in quantity in order to partially compensate for the lack of ammunition. mr. yuriy, i know that you are actually quite closely involved in justifying new tactics using new technological solutions, and that now your battalion not only, so to speak, masters, has mastered the effective use of drones, but also uses rtr and reb systems in formation format actions that allow, relatively speaking, to minimize the impact of the enemy using fpv drones, can you be a little more detailed like that... within the limits of what is possible, in what way are these new tactics being practiced by your unit? i'll tell you this, i periodically look at my colleagues on social networks
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who are fighting in other directions, and sometimes i'm like: why did you say this, please, don't need to, the enemy is also watching you, they will immediately set up a counterattack. i will say this, in war, the main thing is, one of the basics is intelligence information, respectively, the number of enemies. er, where he takes off, with what composition, how he performs the duties of the task, due to the means used by the unit, we manage to understand and detect clearly enough. if we understand where the enemy is, we can always reconnoitre him, for this we need reconnaissance means, however dusty in large numbers, well, if we already see the enemy, we can accordingly destroy him effectively at the expense of shock means. the unit is actively engaged in this and we have quite significant achievements, for example, if we start from the beginning. bearer, count the statistics, during this period of time we managed to destroy five enemy groups and work seven more on the prohibition of actions, that is, they remained without
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equipment, some of the rough ones were injured, this is what we hear on radio intercepts, how exactly it happens, i will not tell and i do not recommend it to other colleagues, then i will ask about recruiting, because you have become a battalion more than once, we talk about what is needed looking for people who are interested and ... with the desire to destroy the enemy precisely as drone operators, have you managed to fill all the vacancies already, or is the recruitment ongoing and there is a need for young people, people who are ready to fulfill this mission? need we became less than two months ago, it is not physically possible to fill the entire full-time job description, why? we focus primarily on mobilized and volunteers who come from civilian life, what is the algorithm? the path of mobilization, general military training for a month, specialized training for months, it's already two months, then as part of the unit, getting familiar with things, getting to know
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the unit, training as part of the effective, now we are renewing contact again, this is yury fedorenko, the commander of the assault battalion afiles, mr. yuri, continue, please, an internship as part of a combat experienced crew, it takes approximately everything plus an additional month, that is , after 3 months, a person who was a civilian yesterday, today became a military man, will be able to fully perform combat tasks and be trained to perform these tasks as much as possible. that is why our number has increased by almost half, there are a lot of applications, constant systematic work is going on, i apologize, which we take a long time to answer, this sometimes happens, because there are quite a lot of applications, they all need to be processed, adequately discussed with people and to give the necessary answer, are you mobilizing, or for some reason such... sometimes it happens that for the performance of combat tasks not exactly one or another category of people can be involved, we need fresh replenishment, so whoever wants to be really...
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effective in in this war, you see the result of your work, because we have such an advantage that due to reconnaissance and shock means, we can specifically see what we are doing, where we are shooting, what effect and result it has on the battlefield, then you should come to us, discipline, we will teach everything else, eh, i want to ask about the consequences of the creation of a new kind of unmanned forces, have there already been any changes affecting your work, or are there any new guidelines that allow... to understand where these unmanned systems are moving with the emergence of a new command? let me try to explain briefly, because this is such a broad topic, we need to talk for about half an hour, i will try to be brief: unmanned systems are divided into everything that is in the air, reconnaissance and shock, robotic equipment, tracked wheeled vehicles that are on the ground, as well as surface and underwater drones. where is ukraine now? surface underwater drones we are in absolute leadership in the priority of advantage.
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over the entire world community and over all the military-industrial complexes of analogues of the means we have, they are not in the world at the current moment, and we actually managed to destroy more than 25% of the russian black sea fleet, without having our own, robotic equipment, it is also enough is developing rapidly, it is something that drives on the ground, and it performs the main tasks, it is the delivery of necessary cargo to the front line of combat collision, without risking personnel, it is a robot, picks up the wounded, also carrying out demining, demining, additional modules are also installed on them, and it can reach difficult- to-access places where there is an extremely serious threat to the infantryman, and this machine can perform the task of striking the enemy, well , of course, everything that is in the air, in day-night time explores, makes an impression. in order to effectively control this machine, it is necessary to have a single control center, accordingly a new kind of troops, unmanned systems was formed, so he must develop a concept, and these concepts already exist, which are taken directly from the application with
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polyaba. set up a system of management, training, provision and combined effective application directly on the battlefield, these things, they are not done very quickly, it is impossible, every step, it must be balanced, but systematic work is being carried out in this direction, i am sure that approximately in six months, we will have significant changes in the management of the use of unmanned systems. mr. yuri, thank you very much for your explanations, for your time, for being you and your unit. to do for our defense countries. let me remind our viewers that this was yuriy fedorenko, the commander of the achilles unmanned aerial systems battalion operating as part of the 92nd separate assault brigade, and indeed we are now talking about the fact that technological solutions on the battlefield are, well , an important, decisive component for in order to ensure superiority over the enemy. now the enemy is betting on the advantage in the number of
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manpower, indeed he is... trying to attack our defense lines, but the use of technological solutions, when we are talking about robotic platforms, well, it can partially to minimize the influence of the enemy, in addition to this, of course, it is necessary to ensure the operation of our artillery, long-range impression systems, and i very much hope that the decision we talked about at the beginning of our program regarding the unblocking of american aid will be an important factor for that , so that the situation on the home front would radically change. and enemy losses have increased enormously compared to the period that exists today. these were the main military highlights of this era, and more international and economic news further on vasyl zima's big broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you, serhiy zahorets and thank you to his guest, these were the military results of the day, followed by the second hour of the great, very
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important and interesting. the world is waiting for you information about ukraine with yuri fizar, what is there in the united states of america, what decisions are being prepared for ukraine, are there any risks that aid for ukraine may not be approved, money, during the war with oleksandr morchivka, as well today culture from lina chechenina and weather from natalka didenko. now about the most important ones news, i will tell you in detail. ukraine is calling on the g7 countries to provide more air defense systems, as they did for israel. this was announced by the head of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba , on the sidelines of the g7 summit of foreign ministers in capri, italy. according to the diplomat, western countries have two strategies: if israel is helped by prevention measures to prevent damage and deaths, then our country will have to deal more quickly with already tragic consequences of constant russian attacks. group of seven already.

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