the brigade is holding here, our mortars, our drones worked, they burned their calves, destroyed, destroyed the logistics, they retreated, now in recent days they have been working again in small groups, attempted assaults and shelling from artillery, very powerful shelling, unfortunately, there are wounded among us , that's right, i wouldn't say that it became a little bit easier, no, huh, and tell me how much aviation? continues to work, but how active is this particular component of theirs now, well, it works, it works as it worked, nothing is bothering them, nothing has changed in us, we do not have an application, there is no f16 in the air force, then the aviation works and works, unfortunately, and with cabs every hour, and periodically throws cabs and they go to pokrovsk and to konstantinivka, maybe to druzhkivka, well, we see. what passed over us, exactly where, we don't

always know, well, the rockets are working from the right direction, somewhere in the direction of kharkiv, we also don't know where it hits, probably in kharkiv, well, we see that there in the pokrovsk region it was successful to destroy, it seems, seven russian planes in the pokrovsk region, well, we hope that somehow all this can be done to you the direction will also shift this activity. on the destruction of the russian ships, i would like to, but do you know anything about what is happening in the direction of kupyansky, how, how the situation there was changing at that time, because i know that your units were also somewhere there, we are at the end in march they came from kupyansk, they worked well there, and commander sirskyi spoke about tactical successes in the kupyansk direction, specifically sintivka, petroivanivka, we still have them there too. drone crews worked very

closely firing positions, our mortars worked, but we have already been in april and may, we are here for the time being, another brigade is working there, and tell me something else, well, it is obvious that this is not your direction, but you must have heard about it, the statements of the russians were that they captured beilogorivka , then the russians themselves denied it otherwise, because they announced it to the entire population in the news, and then... well, somewhere locally, some warlords started saying yes, it's a delusion, why talk about it, that's the question, well, yes , but really why did they talk about it, you are a political scientist, by profession, and somehow you can, well, how political scientist to talk a little about this, what was it like around belogorivka, the same thing happens here, every day they take castiliars, if you look at their telegram channels, who monitors my friends, they tell me this, my boys and i every time p. ..

they have worked out, everything is already gray, gray time has passed, when we see something, night, everyone went downstairs, made coffee, i am watching the news in the news, the guys say, and we are already surrounded, everything, from where, i say, well, they write in the telegram , that we were already surrounded, then it happened about a week ago, they were already dispersing that they had taken the chasivary, that's all, they are in the city, i say, well, they have arrived, we are sitting in the basement, we have already been taken, that is, there are many such stories, in fact. it makes some sense, because it supports their morale a little, because they saw, oh, they took it, great, there is some, some kind of upswing, and then, well, they didn’t take it, well, then we take the wrong decline, even though there was some good news, and this , on the other hand, demoralizes ours, when they hear every day that we have lost something, although later there is some kind of refutation of this, but it keeps people in nervous tension, especially, apparently,

local kostiantynka, druzhkivka, kramatorsk, sloviansk, pokrovsk, when they know that they are next, if the times fall, then it is 10 km to konstakha, and every time they hear, that the enemy is in a ravine, they strain and think, well, that everything, everything, the enemy will be near the city by now, will bombard us from a height with dominance, therefore it exhausts our both peaceful and guys in other directions, so there is not always time, no there are always brothers here to connect, learn something, and here he sits. in the north, somewhere in the sumy region , in the kharkiv region, in kupyansk, or in the south, there in zaporizhzhia, in kherson, he hears that we are all here, we were destroyed at the time when they came down, they have already entered and are advancing further and also among the boys falls into a certain mood, this is very important, because everyone is always under stress and bad news always knocks them off the track, so yes, this is their attempt to demoralize us a little, it seems to me like this, by the way, it is interesting what you say, because... well,

that was probably one of the, well, the purpose of this story, of them, of starting this story with bialohorivka, in order to try to demoralize certain of our parts that are there. and shake them a little, and from this, you know, a simple conclusion, well, you can’t, well, in general, trust what any russian news at any level says, well, that is, what was shown in them on tv , you don't have to take it as something that could happen, that is, you have to start from the fact that whatever they say, it's a lie and just accept it as, you know, some kind of axiom, the problem is that the funeral... news , betrayal, betrayal, everything lost, everything is difficult, we are being destroyed, and the news is very curable, as they say, it is easy to manipulate people with fear, that is why many of our, and the media, various channels, and just people in social networks, pick it up without looking, without

checking, well in they don't have the skills, they have the journalist's habit of checking information, heard somewhere, oh, everything, and sometimes come up with, well , actually very unhappy stories. when they write to me, how are you, they told us that you were broken, covered, you are 73, and you are already in the hospital, well, they covered us every time , it happens every day, we don't have 73, i am not heavy at all and i have not been hospitalized for a long time, i am here, all my arms and legs are intact, but such a message, god forbid, it is before me, it is children to relatives, to relatives, it is very difficult, that's why it's so, unfortunately, it's so... unverifiable, difficult, it spreads very quickly, kirill, let's give it a little from the other side, well, still, like a military serviceman, yes, on the one hand, you can judge, and from on the other hand, as a political scientist, what kind of news would there be, well, news

that would support our soldiers on the front line, i.e. how should they be presented, how to treat them, well, you probably also think about it... what would you like to hear from the media, from the reaction of ordinary people to the news, how should it be, so that it supports the fighting army in the first place? oh, well, in fact , you don’t support it with just news, just with statements, we’ve already heard so much, first of all, from our western partners that help is coming, we’re about to, we’ve decided, we’ve almost signed it, and we’re supposed to be in the 16th for two years, three years of tanks, and everything else. that's what we've heard a lot, and actually we'd like to hear real news, news that yes, the guns have arrived, yes, there are powerful projectiles, rockets, yes, there is permission to hit the enemy's warehouses, logistics, on their

territory, on the territory of russia. yes, there are many volunteers who go to the armed forces of ukraine, stand by the tsk, and soon it will not be those who were caught by the tsk, the old, sick, not in... guys who go to defend the country, this is their decision, and soon we will be replenished, we will have vacations, rotations more often, because there will be a sufficient number of us, we would like to hear such news, but it does not depend on journalists, unfortunately, but on reality, well, yes, of course, that everything depends on reality, and even better, when it is not just news, but when you tell us that this is how we started to get more coverage, this is how we worked, as you say, by degrees, and it was successful, well, it's more like that. would be, i think, well, something that you can immediately feel, and when the reinforcements come, and you can say, yes, the reinforcements have arrived, they are very good guys, prepared and motivated, unfortunately, we have to start with what is , and well, in this situation, in those that are, well, really, how would you

say that now, well, in addition to the fact that we are already you discussed, well, it is directly the equipment that should arrive, there are some new brigades that i can. come on, what else should help the most now on the front line? well , we have people, we have passion and understanding, that is, what we need for victory, people and weapons, that’s all, i’m talking about weapons, now i’m not going to talk about shooting, we have automatic weapons, cartridges, all that, above our heads, drones are constantly needed , and drones come from the ministry of defense, and from volunteers and... and through other channels, we buy something ourselves, ammunition for drones, well, you won’t help here, you have to do it yourself, because if you start producing ammunition for drones in the body, it will be a criminal matter, weapons and people are what is needed, very much, of course, i would like us to work according to

nato standards, according to the military doctrines of the united states, great britain, france, germany, where the first the step to attack, the first step to the operation, is total dominance. in the air, the destruction of enemy aircraft, enemy air defense and the task of striking their ground bases, then ground forces follow. unfortunately, we went on the counterattack last year as well, and now we are holding on and counterattack. without dominance in the air, it is very difficult. that's what we need, people, heavy weapons and aviation or such air defense systems to destroy the enemy's aviation. well, actually, what everyone is discussing now, we have only a minute and a half left, it is about the new law on mobilization, the attempt to finally conduct a record of servicemen in electronic form, you personally? checked yourself and here's what you can say, do you already have any personal experience of using

all the reserve plus applications and everything that is, our schoolboy friend yevhen chibalov, a volunteer of the first large-scale invasion, was checking himself, there is something wrong, he is still in the reserve, he is still not fighting formally, but is registered in pokrovsk, one of the sergeants was checking himself, he is in general... khyland, although he has been fighting for two years, there was already a request yesterday to cancel the defense, today separately from the ground forces, the military, do not load the system, do not overload it, there will be an army plus for you, a separate application, do not prevent civilians from registering, i am disciplined serviceman, i didn't download the app, no no no i don't disturb others need it, oh well, we hope you will finally be accounted for in the army. and everything will be fine in this regard, thank you, it was kyrylo sazonov, a serviceman

of the armed forces of ukraine, a political scientist, well, i am reminding you now once again about our collection for armored vehicles, it is a collection for the repair of armored vehicles, first of all , armored vehicles that need to be repaired directly at the front line, in the gray zone, on the contact line, in particular there are tanks, bmps, armored personnel carriers, a minicar is needed. bus, need pneumatic hydraulic jacks, ours the goal is 630 00 hryvnias, a third of it is already there, with your help, i hope we will cover this fee and it will be much easier for us to fight, but now i say goodbye to you, stay for an espresso, we have a lot more interesting things to do, see you. good evening, we are from ukraine! greetings, dear tv viewers, my name is vasyl zema, this is

a big broadcast on the espresso tv channel and for the next hour and 45 minutes, i and my colleagues will be with you today a lot of important and dramatic, to a greater extent, but the information that we will discuss, give certain analytics are necessary in such cases, and of course we will talk with various guests, there are my colleagues, the authors of the columns have also prepared very important and interesting topics for you and some events. is happening right now, so we will also pay attention to them, well , we will move on to the events, and we have already reached serhiy zgurets, director of the defense express agency, and the host of the military summaries of the day column, he has prepared his issue. serhiy, good evening, please speak to you. good evening, vasyl, good evening to all our viewers. today in our military section we we will talk about the situation on the front line, in conversation with our military, and about new developments in the field of electronic warfare. would from our domestic manufacturers and these developments surprised our partners from

nato countries at the recent exhibition in norway, more on that in a moment. today, the russian military delivered a significant number of strikes with its s-300 missile systems. according to the civil structure of kharkiv and the region, there are dead and wounded. and against the background of this new fierce enemy attack, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy once again called on world leaders to be more determined, first of all, to lift the ban on the use of western weapons for hostile purposes on the territory of the russian federation, because the russian army is now taking advantage of the fact that ukraine is now deprived of a sufficient number of air defense systems and a reliable ability to destroy these launchers. two installations of terrorists exactly where they are located, near our borders, and that is why

volodymyr zelenskyi said that this is actually not our weakness, the weakness of the world, which for the third year in a row cannot make a decision on the terrorists as they deserve, and this is a rather important and timely statement, because right now , such important discussions are once again underway in washington to remove these restrictions... and to give permission for the use of american weapons on the territory of the russian federation, this is happening just after the visit of state miner blinkin to kyiv, where he saw these realities, i hope that this... after all , in the near future it will be decided in our favor, so that the effectiveness of american weapons is much higher, and now we know that our armed forces destroy and deter in the advance of the enemy on our land using various weapons of both western and domestic production, and how it is currently

happening on the front line, we will talk with our guest, now we are joined by a junior sergeant... for the third separate assault brigade anatoliy nikitin with the call sign beton, what do you do with unmanned systems, mr. anatoly, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, good day, well, given the limitation that we cannot talk about the tactical situation on the battlefield, let's talk about the tactics of using unmanned complexes and about our arsenal, first of all i would like to ask if this instruction has already reached you, all experts are discussing that fpv drones should be used there from the line of contact within 1 km and no more, there are a lot of such contradictory assessments of this story, what 's going on with your fpv drone use after this new ordinance? come on, no one forbade us to use drones

with maximum efficiency in accordance with the operational situation on the field. that is, to us did not prove the ban on the use of fpv drones, no one told us that we cannot destroy the enemy if he is more than a kilometer away from us or something, that is, everything is in order, we are working in a planned mode, according to our already developed by by by by it's the third year of the war, we've worked out work protocols and we're working quite effectively, so some... maybe there are some formal definitions of effective work, but still, well , no one and no one will forbid the destruction of enemies. mr. anatoly, how is the best experience being accumulated and transferred now? the use of either fpv drones or reconnaissance drones, because the third assault

brigade has several units that use strike systems, each of those units has. significant gains, how do you share experiences and do you share experiences with other crews who may be able to take the best assets of your operators and use them for themselves? of course, we always communicate within the team, we are still like one big family, so everyone who deals not only with individual units of unmanned systems, but also unmanned systems used by ordinary linear... units in the fields, yes, we all communicate with each other, we all share some experience, thanks to the latest technologies, we always have video recording in order to calmly analyze certain situations later , to communicate with each other, to communicate with adjacent brothers from adjacent divisions, and to share our

possessions, and in general, well, we are all more or less in the same information space, i mean... the operators of unmanned systems, that's why we always, if we see some novelty from the enemy, or apply some , we can already say that some systematic tactic is being used and it gives a positive result, we always share, because the most important thing in general is, well, it's clear that everyone wants some video and popularity and your telegram channels and promote your media in order for recruiting to go better and let's say we had... more brothers within the brigade, but still, we work for common results, so if someone there sees in enemy equipment in the area of ​​​​responsibility of the neighbors, and the neighbor will say that he does not have the opportunity to hit now, or some other reason, we still cover the friend, overlap and share and experience and transfer it, if there is a loss of combat capability there due to objective

reasons, the guys there the drones at the adjacent position have run out, we can run to them, hand them over, well, in order to work... mr. anatoly, how much is needed now, relatively speaking, in these conditions that are currently on the battlefield, that is, fpv drones, strike drones , because when i spoke with the achilles battalion, they counted there for the past month they used 1460 fpv drones, more than half of which hit the targets, this indicator is 1500 drones per brigade, is it constant, or does it depend on the situation? let's move away from the magic of big numbers a little bit, because i don't really like all these average room temperatures, i'll say that if there are enough of them. because the enemy also hides, he tries to avoid collision with drones, if conditionally there are targets and the crew is experienced, then an experienced crew

can carry out 20-25 launches per shift, and are there any, relatively speaking, other limiting factors besides the number of fp drones there, that is , the training of the personnel, the countermeasures of the enemy there, how does this affect the effectiveness of the use of semi-drones, is it possible... these are some averages, after all, these average data for the ward, as you say, certainly any crew, it is evaluated from the point of view of our conditional military kpayu, that is, how much military property was lost for the task combat damage to the enemy, that is , the more fire damage inflicted, the more personnel or military equipment of the enemy destroyed, in relation to the lost and or ... used ammunition and drones, yes, the better the crew, of course, experience is experience, the more experienced the crew, the better its indicators, of course,

the quality of the products itself plays a very big role, if we talk about ehtiv drones, we understand that they are completely different, it is always some kind of assembly there, conditionally on semi-hard , semi-linear, so it is always selected producers, yes by by by'. strict criteria, we look at what is offered to us, we test the equipment that is offered to us, and only then make a decision to use this or that type of ammunition or delivery method, so yes, of course, we can say that we are acquiring if at the beginning of the conventional fpv wars that started, we said that if it's good, if every fifth hits the target, now we can safely... say that every third is already the minimum norm. and i would like to ask about the situation with combat equipment, because at a certain stage these were constant improvisations on the part

of the military, when it was necessary to select combat units from various means of impression, did they finally switch to typical combat units, or after all, improvisation remains and after all, accumulates on the experience of the operators themselves or their assistants who provide this combat. component of this strike drone? you see, serhii, as a person who is directly responsible for the direction of the combat unit, i can say that it is precisely this flexibility that for us, the platform, both for pv-drones and heavy drops, the fact that we can combine ammunition for the task, for use under a separate means, gives us an effective result, because well, if it were conditional only... some regular ammunition , while they were accepted into service, while they came, while something else, yes, we would lose this time and continue to lose until we passed all these circles

of bureaucratic hell, without which the army is impossible, because the army is, first of all, order , so i'll say 50-50 we use ammunition as a conditional indigenous, i.e., it is a modified regular ammunition, and regular ammunition has already appeared in our country. stocks that were used there for the task. mr. anatoly, after you , the director of the company that develops rtr and reb tools will be included. that you now tell our companies what you need in the rep segment in order to cover up your activities, and what is so dangerous that the enemy now has that our developers need to pay attention to, or minimize this conditional advantage of the enemy. flexible, that is, they have it on mine, let's say so. the most successful platform is a platform i would like to have a reb platform that will

jam enemy signals in a flexible flexible band, that is, it is several bands often, it is always a guess, or some analyzer to have, and it should be as automated as possible, we come to automated. systems that react directly to the sound of enemy propellers or to the sound of a drone approaching and turn on the corresponding frequency to the signature, and therefore artificial intelligence must and must be introduced, it gives us a head start in the human reaction to being triggered by to suppress the enemy's signal and survive, so the reb is a very important direction, it must be supported, if anyone has relatives from our audience who gather there for fishing or something else, be sure to help them. life, and mr. anatoly, what do you have now with the equipment, because the brigade has several units, some companies have become battalions that

serve the combatants. the task of the third separate assault brigade has been announced recruiting, is it working, is it possible to select really capable people in a short period of time time to master all complex drones or other unmanned systems. people come, the people come are completely different, they are quite young, we recently received guys who are generally young, young, they are contract workers, they came voluntarily, 19-20 years old, a little older guys come, men come. my age is already 40, so yes, we would like more recruits, we definitely wanted, we would like to scale our experience, we would like to scale our victories, recruiting is ongoing, i will not say quantitatively there, we wanted more as usual. mr. anatoly, thank you very much for the inclusion, for what you and your brothers are doing to protect our country and destroy the cursed occupiers. let me remind you that it was anatoly

nikitin. the junior sergeant of the third separate assault brigade, who takes care, as we can see, of the direction related to the preparation of drones for the destruction of the enemy, and this is an extremely important direction, of the effectiveness of the use of these systems on the battlefield, then we will talk about a related topic with means of electronic warfare, radio engineering intelligence, and now we are joined by the director of a leading ukrainian company that develops. modern systems of radio technical intelligence, and recently also means of rap, the company already has a global brand, this is the director of this company, information security yaroslav kalinin, mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, congratulations, i would like to start our conversation with the fact that you are have recently returned from such a specialized meeting or performance. where

all companies working in the field of electronic warfare show their achievements and exchange experience, this the exhibition was held in norway, i would like you to say a few words about what exactly your company was showing, what was the reaction, and this is an annual exhibition, and there are two events every year. this is an exhibition, let's say, an exhibition of a conference, which is taking place this year in norway, last year it was in germany, in bonn, and the second event is in the same city in estonia, in the city of tartu, they just go there live demonstrations of some samples and such more laboratory work, practical work with application, in norway last week before last, what

happened, it is more simple. the strategy, the strategy, how nato countries perceive the current threats, what challenges they see, and communication with the industry, about those challenges, this year, of course, if you see the trend between last year and this year, every year the hype is more and more towards experience that ukraine has on the battlefield this year. we non-stop gave some kind of comments, explanations, demonstrated something and shared impressions with end users from different countries, all these countries are a nato bloc, for the most part it is specialists in radio-electronic intelligence, radio-electronic warfare, various branches and types of the armed forces, what everyone is interested in, everything is very interesting, very interested in the experience that

can be obtained simply by having some kind of close contact and cooperation, do not expect to see such levels of knowledge and such approaches to solving the problem, while it all causes such a certain stress, but unlike last year, this stress gradually began to turn into some action points, last time i gave you comments that something good will happen in january. it happened, unfortunately, i can't do it to comment, but all these practical interactions with the armed forces and local contractors, i.e. manufacturers who are located locally in certain western countries, they acquired new meanings this year, and i am still in europe due to the results of this exhibition.