military units currently live at their own expense, practically at their own expense, or at their own expense with the help of volunteers, everything is completely property, practically, just so you understand, 60 percent of property is volunteer property, or bought with the funds of the servicemen themselves, therefore , the provision of the army, this is already the third issue, in order to improve the mobilization, there must be a perfect provision of the army with all the needs that are needed for... conducting hostilities, the fourth, in my opinion, what slows down the mobilization is, unfortunately, actions territorial centers of recruitment and social support, maybe i have such military acquaintances with whom i communicate, but not a single combat serviceman supports these actions that we have now, even in lviv, when they stuff selomits buses, when selomits delivers. to territorial

recruitment centers, this is, first of all, a gross violation of legislation, constitutional human rights, and people are becoming even more angry with the armed forces, people no longer deliberately go to shopping centers on their own, because of the fact that shopping centers can i can say it myself, maybe unconsciously, but it slows down the process of mobilization with such actions, well... for example, once i was walking in uniform, people greeted me, people came up, asked me, here, today i am walking in military uniform, and now they are looking at me from below forehead, others move aside because they don't understand who i am, so, well, again, apart from all those questions, an important question is, let's say, the moral and psychological uh... and

the moral and psychological state of the civilian population, ugh, unfortunately, the government is not doing anything now to raise it somehow patriotism, to raise the prestige of the armed forces and so on, well, let's watch television, on television, comedies are shown, some second-rate ones, where they make fun of ukrainians, make fun of the village, various shows, laugh-out-loud comedians and so on and so on, the question is one for the authorities, where ... films, feature films, with an interesting plot, with coverage of the exploits of modern soldiers, and with patriotism, patriotic films, there are practically none of them, look, mr. yuri, you mentioned optimization, or the need for optimization in the work of the tsc, tsc, on the other hand, we understand, yes, the task that was set for them, yes, tsk employees, they said, yes, they will put it, yes. to go through

the addresses there or to go through those who ignored, whether there are signed bandages and so on, that is, according to the idea , it should be done by some military gendarmerie there, relatively speaking, which we do not have, because the military service of law and order, it i am not busy with that, because people are civilians with whom we need to work, accordingly, we should, perhaps, work so that the police, the police are also called non-speaking, because there is its own crime, its own kind subordination and so on, but now they are trying to lump this whole thing into a heap. i mean , in one car there are military commissariat employees and in that car police officers, they somehow try to do this whole thing professionally, maybe there are some other options, how to do it, well, what about the people who simply ignored both the law and common sense . well, first of all, let's live in a legislative state and well, somewhere, somewhere yes, somewhere no, somewhere we try, we try to live in a legislative state and obey the laws.

according to the law on mobilization and military registration, there is no indication that representatives of territorial recruitment and social support centers have the right to detain a citizen at random and bring him to the premises of the territorial center, there is no such thing, representatives of territorial recruitment centers have the right to serve summonses anywhere, this , there are only such rights, what would i do, but this is my personal opinion, i have already considered it, thought with... for myself, what steps could be taken, well first, i still want to go back to the first to the second, probably the same people, the same citizens of mobilization age provoked such conflicts with the tsk, why, i will now explain: first, according to the law, if martial law was declared in the country, every citizen had to would... independently within ten days

to appear at the former military head now at the shopping center to update the data. too many people have ignored this requirement. we want to live according to the law. but we ourselves do not fulfill this law, me, so that none of the representatives of the territorial centers are offended, me also annoying is the fact when a healthy uncle sits at home, and his wife goes to the market, and that uncle is afraid to go out into the yard, because the tcc is there, so it turns out that we are patriots only at the table, over a glass of vodka, we are patriots, and when everyone is sitting at home, what would i do? first of all , it is necessary to oblige the territorial recruitment centers as soon as possible to prohibit the police stations from delivering people to the territorial centers, this is a violation of the law, a violation

of constitutional human rights, and the worst thing is that this loss of authority of the armed forces of ukraine as a whole. the following can be arranged. joint patrols, one representative of the territorial manning center and patrols of the national police, the representative of the territorial manning center hands a summons to a citizen on the street, politely and culturally hands the summons, records, records the date when this citizen must appear at the tsc, if this citizen did not appear by the prescribed time, materials must be transferred to military service. law and order , after all, the military service of law and order there there is a detective department, but the detective department, the department of official investigations, they know how to do it, they know how to do it, there

are professionals, accordingly the police, but you have to be careful here, because the way they want now, they want to put the servants of the people to death. attention to the military service of law and order, so that they freely enter any building, apartment, etc., this is also a violation of the law, we all understand that if search somewhere or enter private territory, there must be a court order, well, without a court order, they should not enter anywhere, and if this happens, then the military law enforcement service will deal with those evaders, here, but not the tsc, the tcc in that regard should unload a little. "they should not deliver by force, accordingly, so that there is no such delivery by force, somewhere the military leaders, the higher military leadership should understand that it is not possible to set plans for territorial centers of procurement, under no circumstances, and by the way, i'm just

communicated in some private manner with the military, many people said that at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, we were very actively de-sovietizing our army, but now, unfortunately, the facts of this sovietism are coming back, what are your thoughts on this matter , are we really going back to those soviet approaches little by little, and what should we do, should we go along this path, or should we abandon it and go with some modern methods? well, we are trying and planning, and it is written in our constitution, we want to... join nato, if we want to join nato, we must accordingly adjust the standards for nato forces, as well as document flows, as well as the relationship of the highest senior officer of the army to his subordinate, and

so on , of course we need to adapt, well, on the other hand, this is how we understand that the army lives, that the ukrainian army, that the american army, lives according to its order, according to its... internal statute, that is, it is not just about its paper part , well because otherwise it is very difficult to manage what is called the personnel of young and old, sexually mature men, whose main goal is the destruction of the enemy and the protection of their homeland, and we understand, so very often, maybe they are a threat, maybe not, when we understand , we want to transfer certain standards from civilian life to what are called military institutions. which in their essence, they are a little different, yes, because even more so during the war, as, for example, the military perceives, well, for example, some such criticism from civilian people, well those the people's deputies themselves, there were, there were more than a few attacks by representatives of our

parliamentary government, i understand who you are talking about, i can't find the words, how the military reacts, well, but it's... it's a shame that during a full-scale invasion, during such bloodshed, during the fact that young officers, generals, are trying to liberate ukraine. from the enemy of moscow, there are its foolish deputies, who can say something negative about one military leadership, then removed this military leadership, installed another military leadership the management is saying bad things again, well , it feels like this is an order or a job for muscovy, you can say that, well, i don’t know there... the guys are very angry, especially the officers, especially these officers who have been from the 14th year, i

know many officers who have been fighting since the 14th year, and these attacks on the part of deputies are very unfortunate, they are very offended, and the most important thing is that morale is falling. mr. colonel, i would like to go back to the beginning of our conversation, you talked about the fact that there must be certain factors that will essentially to give... to make it possible for men to break out of civilian life and go to defend the state on the condition that they know, including what their financial situation will be, that they will not worry about their family, what their family will live, and you said that the amount of 200 00 is the amount that should at least be, on the other hand , we understand that in the current conditions we must have some kind of economy, so at least in some of it form, it must function, because unfortunately, our partners do not cover the costs on the wages of our military service. and the idea of ​​economy booking has already been talked about several times, there are a lot of

different opinions. someone says that economic reservation is a kind of legalization of ransom from the fact that you mobilize. someone says that economic reservation is essentially the legalization of what is already happening in our country, these are corruption schemes that still work in our country. what is your personal opinion on how to approach this economy booking, is it worthwhile, and in general, in your opinion, it should. not to look like in our country, we all understand that a war can be won either on the battlefield or by destroying the economy of the state, that is, if the economy does not work, if the economy is destroyed, we will not have at what expense, with what means to defend my state, economic armoring on the part of the servants of the people, i think that this is abuse of ordinary people, i know why... well, let's face it, why can a rich person make armor for himself,

issue armor, but the middle and poor classes population, they cannot make a reservation because they do not fall under the question of being smaller, they pay less tax and they cannot make a reservation, that is, it is already unfair, in my opinion , a special reservation should be made. in order to save the economy , we need specialists and we need to make armor for them, unfortunately, today we have casino workers, entertainment show workers have armor, at that time agriculture, energy, gas industry, coal industry, they do not have armor for some reason, that is, those , what entertain reservation, there is no justice here, there must be justice, i would first of all book those people who

work in important, let's say, directions, energy workers, gas workers, utility workers who come, repair lines, if for the mobilization of police veterans, for example , because right now, people complain about the fact that we have people who... are trained to use weapons, who can fight, but no one touches them now, and this also causes people this injustice. we currently have around 150,000 military personnel, pensioners from 45, roughly up to 55 years old. ugh. trained people, i speak only for military personnel, trained people, people who know how to handle weapons, people who know how to lead units. here. and currently the tsk does not call them, or if they

come to the tsk, no, you are not needed, or you are there, let’s say you have the third group of disabilities, wait a little longer, but a person with the third group of disabilities can work, he is registered with the tsk, he is not are called, we also have employees, pensioners of the national police, why they have armor, why they are not drafted, i cannot understand it, they are also trained people, people who can fight. and i would personally call 50 percent of pensioners, that of military personnel, that of the national police, take that into account, maybe a few. staffing, for some reason the authorities do not want this, do we need to create new brigades or supplement the already existing ones with personnel, and maybe just add some more battalions or two battalions each? now there is a big shortage of servicemen, now the units are not staffed, i personally would would staff these units, which are

now combat units, and accordingly, as a reserve, create new brigades, because it is necessary. new brigades are needed to replace these brigades that are on the front lines, people are tired, people want rest, people cannot fight with their hands, i once read an american, i'm sorry, i don't remember the name of the psychologist, and the american psychologist said, that a soldier can be in the zone of intense hostilities for only 2 months, it is categorically impossible to do this any longer, then he must be an update or some kind of rotation and return. and so on, and if, for example, we talk about the replacement, we understand that the personnel, well , of course, this is a secret, i will not say how many personnel we have in mind, but there is information from our ministry of defense, which is approximate, well, there we are talking about a million people, that is, we have to release one million for rotation or demobilize and recruit others, on

the other hand, we understand that there is such a calendar, well, some brigades can be in the line of fire. longer, other teams can to be there a little less, i don’t know, i just think that the planning department of the general staff, well, those things, so to speak, controls and compiles all the relevant game schedules of transfers, rotations and so on, well, but, but, but a million people - this is very, very serious, i don't know, that is, we may have to lower the mobilization bar somewhat, well , let's do it, first, we probably have to start, since now we see that people cannot be demobilized, the authorities have completely failed the mobilization in ukraine, i would now would recruit people to renew these units that are there and to try to rotate the guys on the front line, but again, in the long run, a million means a million , you have to demobilize those people, but

again, to demobilize so many people, that's what we said before, there should be... some fair, constituent, social constituents are fair, so that people go to the army, and not only i think, these constituents, but also there is a problem, for example, i just always ask myself the question, how can work with that conditional by a group of evaders, because we currently do not have any work for the evader to become not an evader, what i mean, i mean when, for example, a person can choose for himself a specialization, a division and so on, in our it exists now, so we are already starting. there are some recruiting processes, but they are a little late, in my opinion, and in principle, when a person receives a summons for mobilization, he does not choose, he will be sent wherever he goes. on the other hand, there is also a choice, a person can sign a contract, to choose for herself the unit where she wants to serve and accordingly can use this option. in general, the recruiting process, do you think it will help us to reduce the

number of people who are now popularly called dodgers, so that those people find themselves in the army. and brought maximum benefit and understood that they will be mobilized where they will be most effective, of course it will bring benefits, but on the condition that the person was clearly promised such and such a position, let's say, there is a uav operator, a machine gunner, or an attack aircraft there, if he was told that he wants to do such and such, well, he said that he wants to go to such and such a position in such and such a direction, and if they really take him there, it will be beneficial if they are deceived. people, they will say that he is a uav operator, and he will simply be sent to some infantry company, he will be in okopia or there as an attack aircraft, he does not want that, and this information sarafane radio, it will spread and everything will be the same, unfortunately, such facts, unfortunately there are, yes, yes, well, let's say this, today, i won't say which units, but unfortunately, in the zone

of intense hostilities, units of forces of special operations in the trenches sit for... instead of them directly dealing with their tasks, they sit in the trench, uav operators sit in the trench, here, instead of flying and so on, well, but all this surely leads to the fact that, i so i understand, due to the lack of people, if the units were fully staffed, then maybe, maybe it wouldn't happen. and by the way, how do you assess the situation with equipment equipment, so we understand that our counteroffensive due to many different reasons, it was not... too successful, that is, there were separate tactical or we can even talk about operational successes, and the key task is that we stopped the enemy of the enemy in his offensive actions, yes, because the russians, they survived... for the successes of the ukrainian counteroffensive much more than we thought about it, but the plans of the enemy we failed, seized serious territories,

could not return them, well, accordingly , the issue of technology, it is also extremely acute, because with all due respect, 31 abrams is not 310 abrams, so the promised f16s, these are not available f16s, we understand, this is an ongoing process , here you are as a military man, a man who knows what such a battle and what are the combat needs of certain units in order to stop the enemy well, not just to stop, but perhaps to go into a counterattack. what do you think we are missing? well, again, i am myself, my personal opinion, our diplomacy ended in 2019, 2019, we do not have powerful choirs now. diplomats who could solve issues with europe, with the world, regarding the supply of equipment, if the supreme leader comes abroad and

starts, tries to quarrel with other presidents, or behaves arrogantly, accordingly, they probably turn a blind eye to us, they don't give us the needs that we need, i think that this is not a problem of the armed forces, but a problem... and what are our needs, that is , you would, for example, say yes, we would have to strengthen our armored vehicles, or vice versa, for example, there with air defense systems, or some additional, i don’t know, heavy artillery, first of all, probably air defense means, this is first of all, mobile means, again bmp, bterras, and anti-aircraft vehicles, ugh. in my opinion, today in the 21st century more technologies must fight, not people. mr. yuriy, look, now ukrainian society is rethinking the challenges

that have come before us in general, we remember, unfortunately, such very hurrah-patriotic slogans at the beginning of the full-scale invasion about two or three sundays, but we understand that already two or three the war has been going on for years, and it is not yet known how long it will last, and ukrainian society already. somewhere it is necessary to realize it, to understand, to adapt to the fact that the war will be long, exhausting and most likely it will affect of every family, if this has not happened yet, then unfortunately it will happen, and actually, taking into account the reality that we will have to live in and even the post-war reality, how do you generally assess our militarization of the country, should we prepare women for that , that they will also become military servicemen, should we train the young. boys and girls there are 18 plus, that it is possible that the mobilization age in our country will have to be lowered over time, when we will feel that we do not have enough of the

resources that are used now before the war, which now fall under this mobilization, and in general, what should be the model of our country in order for us to survive in these conditions, well, i will probably start with the mobilization age, here opinions, opinions are now scattered, some say that it is necessary to mobilize people for 18 years, others i say they say it is not necessary, in my opinion, 25 years is still too early, they are still children, i personally do not want children to fight, and i understand that the younger a person is, the more likely, well, by example, by units, with that i've come across, young guys, they're hot, they're thoughtless, they they want to accomplish a feat, to do a feat, but they... think about how to do it, here are people after 30 years old, they are already more prudent and thoughtful, and i, personally, would do more bet on

mobilization from the age of 30, this is the first, well , the second question, for the future, probably, the life of the 14th year has already shown us that we need to pay attention to the armed forces and we need to unite around the armed forces, of course, first of all ... what can save us is joining nato, here is also the military industry in our country, we could already produce a lot of equipment from the 19th year, but unfortunately, we know that the ambitions of some officials in kyiv stopped the production of alder trees, and logs and various other equipment, although we could have all the same and.. . even to take her anti-aircraft defense neptune, well, it was a very good thing, but unfortunately, unfortunately, they stopped production. thank you, yuriy maksimiv,

colonel. the retired head of the geo-united organization of brothers in arms was in the espresso studio, they talked about many things and about mobilization and what the attitude should be ukrainians before the war, what we should prepare ourselves for and how the state should act in the current conditions. thank you mr. yuri, and actually now we will go to a short commercial, after which there will be news, so stay with espresso. attention, a profitable offer: order a smart light bulb at a special promotional price, only uah 99, durable, reliable and so powerful, and the price is only uah 99. in stores, ordinary light bulbs cost more than uah 200, but we offer you a light bulb that shines even when there is no light, for just 99 hryvnias take advantage of such a favorable offer. the smart light bulb works

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