that is, they have a month or two left, while their aviation provides an important advantage. well, as for manpower, it is more difficult to predict exactly how the mobilization will unfold in our country, but still, they cannot help but see that at least some forces have left. they are still not as good as we need them to be, but still, compared to what was the previous year and a half, at least some amount of wealth, and of course they, yes, they, first of all, are crazy now they are intensifying... a campaign to disrupt the mobilization, but they are already deceiving, already they are trying to organize all the burning of cars, military vehicles and similar things, that is , sabotage is already in the dust, but they understand very well that it may not work, they are still trying to disrupt our mobilization, but they already admit that we are still possible let's press, and in this way, they now have a task for od2 before the arrival of the f-16 and before the deployment of our normal, and to ensure

the strongest possible position at those negotiations, which putin actually recently announced. i mean that one of his, very impudent in appearance, very rude an ultimatum that you withdraw the soldiers from the four regions, then we are ready to talk, well, you should not consider him an idiot, he may be free, but he is definitely not an idiot, and his strong point has always been the ability to hold a grudge. with a very bad game, and the ability to bluff, and a very long time, by the way, the event for this one was fucked up, i hope that this can already be said in the past, although it is not yet fully focused, so this one will bring out the troops , which looks like an ultimatum, in fact, it is just a call to action, it is not addressed to us, first of all, because we he is not a subject, he turns to our westerners and hopes to hear something like, well...

the fact that kiev, dnipropetrovsk, odessa, kharkiv and even lviv are occupied russian cities, you see, six months have passed, they are already talking about occupied kyiv they don't talk, they talk about the four slaves, in fact, for them now the supertask is to ensure the maximum winning position for the negotiations on the freeze, but now they really want to get a serious break, because even time is starting to work against us, but after a very difficult step, which we all they survived. gradually, but it is starting

to tilt, these teres shawls are starting to tilt in our direction, a very important signal here, you know, well, literally a parade of declarations from different countries that both our weapons can now be used to strike with our weapons, and this is a signal that the west is finally understood, the only way to force russia into diplomacy is to defeat it on the battlefield, and finally they are beginning to give us help not for deterrence, but for... victory, yes, it was delayed by 2.5 years, but it seems that it is finally happening, russians can't do that not to see, and therefore their overarching task for the next month is to squeeze as much as possible and ensure a stable position in these negotiations, from here, by the way, and the exit to oskol, is just a very convenient line for maintaining further defense and for demarcation. well, let's hope that nothing will work out for them in the near future, nothing at all in the longer term. thank you thank you.

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so, we continue the chronicles of the war, and we have been joined by another guest, this is anatoly khrabchinsky, the deputy general director of the company engaged in radio electronic warfare, an aviation expert, i congratulate you, mr. anatoly, i congratulate you, you know, let's start with what is relevant today, this night russian troops launched 21 kamikaze drones of the shachet type over ukraine, 19 of them were destroyed, but they flew from the other side. so far enough to the lviv region, the air defense forces, in general, worked in five regions, and they flew for quite a long time, and they fly too long and far, and something can be done about it, in general, if we compare it with previous attacks , has this situation with

the protection against the shaheds worsened or improved, how do you assess it in general, c why are there nuances here, and if we are talking about countermeasures against... strike drones of the shachet type, it should be noted here that mostly mobile groups work, which, according to certain systems , track them down, that is, they are already transmitted by mobile groups. and is practiced by mobile groups of destruction, of course, that a certain part, if they are laid out along the route, for example, uh, there is about practicing there points in western ukraine, then they will be taken in that direction, and here we are saying that even then, mobile groups are connected, which are located, for example, on lviv region, but it should be noted here that the main task now facing the defense forces is the automation of these processes, because we see that mostly mobile groups are working against the shaheds, and we need to install automatic destruction systems

and create a low-altitude radar field , which will allow us to work more actively on these means. again, it is clear that by receiving more aviation, which our western partners promise us, it will be somewhat easier for us, because due to being in airspace, for example, airplanes and due to the radar equipment that is on the airplanes, we will be able to ... automatically destroy them, for example, even with the same 20 mm guns that are on the f-16, but we definitely need to move in the direction of developing systems small ground-based ones that would act against air defense systems, because in principle , air defense systems are currently the next challenge for any country, and we see how strike systems based on uavs, unmanned aerial systems, or just ordinary air defense systems are being actively modernized and created. so actually here we have to talk about the construction of some...stems that could destroy, and we already see, for example, when rain metal says that they

will work together there at the leopard base to make certain systems that will destroy such and such aerial targets . in principle, we have our own ukrainian developments, we are currently working on the creation of a radar system of firing radars that will help us solve this issue, and because it should be noted here that ukrainian engineers are actively involved in this, and the destruction will be as per account... for example, interception by other small uavs, as well as at the expense of, for example, guns or from where, well, a cheaper version of missiles. well, yes, after all, it's not patriots to shoot at them, it's somehow too irrational. but look, well, it’s a joke, it’s one story, but there are also russian reconnaissance drones, and with them somehow recently, everything is also somehow, i would say yes, well, it’s ambiguous, because first they arrive. inconspicuous enough and far enough away, if earlier they pointed there in the kharkiv region, there in okorujnaya, now

it was somehow recorded that such a drone flew to kyiv and guided there, and the russians , in principle, built a fairly effective system, when this reconnaissance drone quickly enough transmits information about literally a car that has slowed down, well, just not at a checkpoint, and iskander flies there quickly enough and ... and that's the danger, what's the difficulty of destroying, well, first of all, first detecting these reconnaissance drones, then destroying them, because, well, i'm saying that they, they remain invisible for quite a long time. there are two key points here, why there are more russian uavs of the reconnaissance type, it is due to the fact that ukraine carried out a certain number of operations that made it impossible for long-range radars to look in the direction of ukraine from the russian side. this is the destruction of aircraft such as the drelo a50, and strikes on such radar systems, such

as the same container, but at the same time, russia has also previously worked with uav reconnaissance, but it was near the front line and the border. now we actually see that the activity of russian non-profits has slightly increased, but at the same time we say about the fact that there are certain developments regarding the destruction of these bopols, we already see, for example, even videos on telegram channels, when, in principle, there are developments, but here one must understand one essential point, no less important, that in principle these systems unmanned aircraft, or unmanned, for example, the usual classic bepalatom with an electric motor, even without dvsu, and they are not very noticeable for the usual classic radar systems, so we are talking about creating a low-altitude radar field system, where a large number will be present. radar systems, which will make it possible to increase the possibility of detecting any

means that is in the air at low altitudes and which is small in size, so it is inconspicuous for classic radar systems. that is why we are talking about the fact that, for example, israel has three air defense systems there, it is the sling of david, the arrow, the arrow of david and there, well, there and more, so we are talking about the creation of a third, a fourth system that would help, for example, to detect less of the mark. whole, but here it is necessary to understand that such means can be detected a large number will be needed, because they are not designed for long-range work, they can see, for example, there in a radius of 100 km. eh, that's why it is necessary to work on the main paths, to install such systems that would allow detection. now ukraine is working on this, we are also working, our company is working, it is currently dealing with these means, but there is a certain amount of time for this, and therefore, well, we understand that we need to speed up and we are working actively now, but nevertheless there are western-style systems that help us to work in some directions. and what, for example, are these systems, what

what are you talking about? well, let's go back to the regular cheetah, which can also see at certain distances. there are air targets, i.e. there are also our redesigned systems, soviet systems that were redesigned, here the question is that in fact the cost of striking weapons is going down due to this it is not profitable to use more expensive, for example, countermeasures systems, so there are, for example, those the vampires themselves, who help work on these air targets, and if we talk about the involvement of the same cheetahs and vampires, that is, how many of them are needed to to close the territory of ukraine, well, now i... understand that you will not tell me everything completely, well, at least the order, well, a lot, let's start with what, in principle, we say about these short-range radio systems, but here again i will repeat that, in principle, the system of work of mobile groups is unique and of higher quality, so we say that the creation of systems of mobile groups will continue to be effective, but here we need to increase

the detection system directly, that is, when we see a group of uavs, which move on a separate route, a calculation is made approximate where they are moving, and their mobile groups are already waiting there, but there will already be work, for example, an automatic system of destruction, targeting and destruction, that is , summarizing this, i understand that we are now talking about creating such four levels of protection , one is what concerns there, well , iskander, there is a caliber, something like that, that’s more powerful, the other is that shachet, yes, and how about that... that is, sum up just one, two, three, starting simply by classification, we take air-ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and, for example, various types of bepols type and, for example, or unguided missiles of short and medium range, that is, we are talking about the fact that a number of equal systems are being created, which will be intercepted due to the operation

of new modern radar systems, because it should be noted that again this is a completely new direction . and here we need more high-quality and high-tech weapons. tell me, is it theoretically possible to turn off these drones, well, with some kind of directed radio signal or something. there is such a possibility with impulse signals, when a certain problem is created and this tool is simply undermined into the air due to laser systems and electromagnetic pulses. and as much as it can, but it must be developed. that is, we have not developed it now, as i understand it. well, we have ourselves. they promised us to transfer the laser system, but so far there is informational silence about this, but nevertheless it should be noted that there are a number of developments in ukraine that are currently advancing, that are currently being worked out. well, we just wish you such great success and promotion in this matter, because it is very necessary, that's exactly what i think. tell me more

such a thing, but what is the difficulty in closing the pre-frontal territory from blows in general? well, the same, for example, su bombers, what are the biggest problems there? the front-line zone makes high-quality work impossible, for example, of air defense systems, because due to the radar equipment included in them, they are very visible to the enemy and can be hit, for example, from the same artillery or there from other means of close range, so in in principle , we are saying that in the front-line zone it will be better to work with aircraft on aerial targets. which will try to drop either air- guided aerial bombs, or, for example, launch short-medium-range missiles, and therefore it is more effective to work from the air, but nevertheless, as you can see, our military guys are doing very well, even with portable manpads, which allow them to destroy russian planes, well, when these planes fly to a certain

distance, when they drop 40 km from a distance, then i am thinking of anti-aircraft missiles. of course , a little bit won't help here, well, again , our guys work for us, enter the territory and are practicing, so we see such results and it is very positive, but in fact it is very difficult and it would be much easier to practice with it, for example, aviation due to the fact that the same f6 aircraft will be able to operate at a distance of up to 185 km, shoot down any -what an enemy target. you know, tell me what we can solve in general, what problems we can solve in case of the arrival of planes. and which, after all, should not be counted on that it will allow to solve? well, again, let's start with the fact that getting f-16 planes is essential to strengthen the forces, air forces of ukraine, because due to the acquisition of more modern, modern aviation, we must not forget that not just f16 is being transferred to ukraine, but

swedish saabs are being transferred together with long-range detection aircraft, this is a significant strengthening of capabilities and improvement of tactical and technical characteristics aircraft, because we, for example, combined with working with such aircraft, command aircraft, we can say that our f-16... will be 4+ generations, and again, due to the fact that they can work with exceptional radar systems and receive tasks, and target designation directly from the aircraft of the given radar detection, and here we are saying that due to the work of these aircraft, which will be developed, they can see not only air targets, but they can also see ground targets, i.e. we are talking about the air defense of the enemy, about the movement of military equipment, and again there is ... accurate targeting and target identification for the f-16, that is, we are talking about the fact that our aircraft will be able to operate more safely on the front line or at border and work

on important objects, both on the territory of the russian federation and on the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine, therefore, in principle , there are many pluses here, it is clear that you want, so says, speak, i hear you, a large number, but nevertheless we will count to what we have now. and you know, the last thing we heard about the planes was that they would still be there sometime this year, but we remember that they once said that they would definitely be there in the summer of the 24th, well, the summer is already going like that, now, as if this year, it is not known when, but do you know or not there is such an impression that somehow this transfer of planes is delayed, is everything normal, maybe you can clarify a little? this situation, if you know, well , in fact, let's go back to the fact that the training of pilots involves not only

training pilots to fly these planes, but the mastery of conducting combat operations, that is , we are talking about the possibility of working out as part of an aviation unit, as well as aviation, certain tasks , which will stand in front of our pilots. again, we are now talking about two aircraft being handed over to us, long-range detection, saab command planes, so here... it will also be necessary to practice training together with these planes, and i think that there is a greater need for trained and well-trained teams, which are happening now, that is, we are talking about the fact that even the pilots, who have already completed certain training, they are now practicing certain exercises and are already preparing for, for example, some combat operations or combat tasks, taking into account the territory of ukraine or the territory of the russian federation, that is, we are talking about the fact that there is... the need to practice already future, for example, some tasks that will be done on the territory of the russian federation or on the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine. therefore

, in fact, we are talking about the fact that here, well, i do not see any delay here, there is an understanding that , in principle, there is a gradual acquisition of certain opportunities and an increase in opportunities, and due to this, there is simply an understanding that it is necessary to train pilots more deeply in some direction or, for example, to get some... additional knowledge, and we should not forget that, in principle, the infrastructure of ukraine is already ready to receive aircraft, the more so we already have training facilities, ground training facilities, we are talking directly about augmented reality simulators that will allow, for example, pilots to perform certain exercises first on the ground and then in the air, and plus we must not forget that there is already a prepared group of engineers who are ready to meet the planes in ukraine, well, literally today... the statement of the american spokesman, i just don't remember who exactly, that after all the planes will be based on the territory of ukraine, that is, we are not talking about the fact that

they will fly there from some romanian bases there or something, but it will still be on the territory of ukraine, i understand that this is also a significant and already such, you know , preparatory, well, how to say, clarification, well , maybe there is a preparation of the general atmosphere and that speaking of the approach, the planes are actually approaching, you know, i would like to discuss one more such aspect very briefly, this is actually about radio-electronic warfare on the front line, that is, directly, well, that is, our drones are flying, russian drones are flying, and right now, well, a lot of people are talking about the fact that the russians seem to have the upper hand in electronic warfare. in this regard , they manage it easier than us, but how do you assess this situation directly at the front? well , again, in different directions, the situation is different

with regard to... the presence of radio electronic warfare equipment both at the enemy and at ours, so it should be noted here that in principle, if we talk about russian electronic warfare equipment, then i always say that they overestimated, because these means radion fighting, which are in the classic version, what russia has been actively developing recently are means that provide, for example, the suppression of signals, both navigation and mobile communication, or, for example, the communication of the usual classic radio, and therefore, what is needed now... in large quantities is countermeasures against classic civilian uavs, which are now actively used as combatants, and in principle, ukraine and russia are faced with the lack of such means in the arsenal, therefore, development is actively underway from our side, and the russians are also trying to somehow replace it, but china actively helps them in this matter, and regarding ukrainian means, it should be noted here that the number of companies that

deal with means of radio-electronic warfare has increased a lot. and for example, on our own experience, we already work with our own developments, with our own systems of creating interference and amplifying the signal, that is, we say that most of the components that we purchase components, but do not purchase, prepare solutions and we are developing our own systems that help our military defend themselves against attack tvs or reconnaissance drones. therefore, in principle , in perspective, i would say that there is more ukraine and - tell me, do we have a connection with the guest, because something is a little unclear, you hear me, i apologize, yes, something is just so yes, something is breaking through here communication, maybe there is a light somewhere, well, now you can see normally, so in principle you can continue, you know , that's why, yes, yes, yes, please, well... then

let's go, i just, i heard the other day, just well, the russians boasted that they are now as if they developed some kind of shock uav that does not work at the same frequencies or something as the mavic, and this will supposedly allow them, well, somehow to jam the mavics, without fear, at the same time, to silence their own otsey ot pela, well, first of all, to what extent is it possible at all, is it a reality, is it some kind of... with such a boast, and secondly, well, actually in this context, what are the possibilities in general? well, let's not reveal a lot of details there, but let's note that, for example, most of the systems that are purchased by russians, and we know the processes take a while and we understand what frequencies they will switch to, so if they are happy about some frequencies, then they can be happy, but they must be prepared that we already have

a countermeasure. that in fact we are actively working in this direction as well, we need to understand where the enemy plans to move, so again we have ready-made solutions for all ranges that can use moisture, but how to make sure that these ready-made solutions do not jam our own uavs, because as i understand it, it's also a fairly serious problem that constantly, someone starts to work with radio electronic warfare, and as a result, ours also fall. in fact, we are talking about the fact that, here we are talking about the fact that, for example, we have some systems that we can already implement artificial intelligence, which will allow us to check and weed out, for example, the possibility of suppression by certain means that belong to our defense forces, so in principle there are certain developments here that will allow us to actively work and not harm our own disembodied systems, but again, for now, that's all so to speak, it is being implemented, we need it...

most of the military knows that the key to success is good communication between units. thank you. we spoke with anatoly khrabchinsky, deputy general director of a company engaged in electronic warfare, an aviation expert. thank you very much that he joined us and yes, explained everything in sufficient detail, i remind you about our collection for the repair of armored vehicles, be sure to join it, because it is very important in the combat zone, to restore equipment, it is very important when on... fighters have the opportunity to use it, you know, it recovers and actually goes into battle again, well, we will meet you in a week, stay with us on the espresso tv channel, we still have a lot of interesting things for you.