let's say, it has been developed for many years, and they understand that these platforms need to be improved taking into account this war, and they also understand that after some time such large platforms 5-6 m high with large guns, where everything is inside complexes, reb and intelligence and something else, let's say it like this, is a complex thing, it is on the one hand, on the other hand a very precious thing, how it will develop further, they themselves do not yet imagine, but they already see what the situation is. they significantly affect the development of modern technologies, their implementation in armed military equipment. mr. anton, you have been to the stands of all our companies, you have seen what visitors, foreign experts ask our arms manufacturers, what they ask, what they are interested in, what is the reaction to certain samples, what do you have, what would i say, i would he said that as you know, ukrainian manufacturers are present here in principle and ... and

naudi, special technical export is also present here, that is, ukrainian manufacturers of the private sector are represented quite well, at these eurosatari exhibitions, and we have to understand that we differ, i say frankly, we simply differ in that we have a number of solutions that they look at like, well, interestingly, they look like that, and what is it, and how is it, and it works, yes, it works, and it is accepted in service, this is how it is used somewhere and effectively ... recommended, that is, they are still looking closely and looking at it, they are looking closely at robotic platforms, they are looking closely at unmanned surface ships, in particular at magura, and they are looking closely at drones, panish, for example, punisher, which is now in a new version was presented, they look carefully at ukraine, and if you simply analyze these stands that were at the exhibition, then, of course, big companies like talis, airbus, they focus attention from the side, from the side of most visitors, but...

the ukrainian stand does not remain unnoticed, people constantly come in, constantly ask, are constantly interested in the solutions that we have, and first of all, robotic platforms, unmanned aerial vehicles, and complexes of radio-electronic intelligence, radio-electronic warfare, what presented, it is all interesting and everyone is definitely asking, and definitely asking with an eye on how it is used in the course of hostilities, and did something strike you among the exhibits or something? of logical technical solutions from other countries, which is such that this is what we would desperately need on the battlefield, were there such samples that could be taken, bought and used? a good question, actually, but to say, you know, because they, i'm saying, the exhibition, it's like that, well , i got that impression, that certain transition stage, there's no such universal solution, that is, 100% can be used on

the battlefield, because in any case the enemy can find another means to be able to act, i did not see such, let's say, complex solutions, system solutions scattered on the terrain, which would allow the system to fight, where at the same time you would have radioactive warfare complexes, and anti-aircraft vehicles, and weapons and high-speed armor and means of destruction, so there are solutions such as well... both french solutions and german solutions, and which include these moments, but they are bulky, but they are big, and we know very well how this big target will be hit after literally there, i don't know, 10-15 minutes after it appears on the demarcation line, so it's difficult to say, this transition stage, it precisely affects the awareness to the end of how this or that weapon can be used, nevertheless, ukrainian and ours, our ukrainian delegation, representatives and...

the national defense security council and the ministry of defense, they emphasize the attention of all foreigners: guys, good luck to ukraine, let's try because what you show, tell, it looks good in the picture, but the course of hostilities is sometimes completely different, and the effectiveness is established in real conditions, not just stands, there were many such beautiful tanks from france, germany, modernization of the leopard, abrams , but they actually look like, well, somewhat futuristic, futuristic. futuristic and artificial in the conditions, let's say, how does this tank appear on the battlefield, where our military is fighting, what is the future of these tanks even with bigger guns there, what about armored vehicles, what conclusions can be drawn against the background of these expositions of the leading tank manufacturers of tank weapons, we can confidently say that the manufacturers of tank weapons take into account the challenges of today, they really saw how these tanks burn, they try to offer tanks immediately with dynamic... protection and the active

defense complex, the first one was demonstrated here, maybe it's just the first time i've seen it, but the first time i've seen a 140 mm gun here, and basically this futuristic tank that uses this... mate, german production, and therefore, in principle, they understand that the course of hostilities will be made with an emphasis on the fact that the enemy will need to be destroyed at a greater distance than what the enemy can understand, the ammunition used must be more effective and hit the target is again at a long range, the protection must again be universal against various means of impression, they just realized that the approach that was used before... for armored vehicles, where passive dynamic protection complexes were not used, but simply tilted on the use of just high-quality steel, high-quality armor, this is not, let's say, not a complete and safe solution, it needs to be improved, that's why we see many examples here and from

rheinmetall and from other manufacturers, which simply show that it is necessary to use dynamic protection complexes, passive, let's say so, and again, they include complexes of active protection to this. therefore , in principle, they draw conclusions, the only thing is that, again, they are more futuristic, as it will again manifest itself in during the hostilities, it is difficult to say. mr. anton, thank you very much for these interesting details from the eurosattteri exhibition, i would like to remind our viewers that it was anton mikhnenko, a military expert in the fields of security and technology, these were the military results of the day, then vasyl zima will continue the big broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. i thank the deg for his work, i thank his guest, we will continue the great work, there is a lot of interesting and important information ahead, we will now have conversations with guests from zaporizhzhia, we also have a conversation with people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko, discussion of the issue of mobilization, demobilization,

rates, plans, expectations and certain results, we will also talk about the military police, and now the collection for the repair of armored vehicles, i ask you to join and continue to report. we already have a little more than uah 130,000 out of the 630,000 that we need to collect, so we are asking you to join the collection for the repair of heavy armored vehicles in the combat zone in the solodarsk and zaporizhzhia directions, the repair and recovery regiment works mainly on the contact line or in the so-called gray zone is clear beyond any weather day and night, so for the emergency recovery and return to the battlefield of damaged military equipment, in particular... tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, a minibus is needed to deliver mobile repair teams and equipment to the combat zone, as well as pneumohydraulic jacks for prompt repair of foreign equipment. our goal is uah 630,000. i am asking you to join us, we have already managed to collect,

well, we and also my colleagues, who make these collections during their broadcasts, 497,406 hryvnias. for... much less than we need to raise, therefore, let's do a good job today, and while you donate, i called, i will invite dmytro, dmytro kyrylchuk, to the conversation, he is a deputy of the zaporozhye city council, mr. dmytro, i congratulate you, good evening, i was watching the events today, the enemy strikes, shelling, i would like you to have maps in general... of the last day and in zaporizhzhia, in the zaporizhzhia region, where enemy attacks were particularly noticeable, whether or not this day passed more or less peacefully, i mean, especially those populated areas that are closer to the front line, where flights arrive more often, either please, mr. vasyl, let us note here that

against the background of the fact that the enemy has once again struck critical infrastructure there, on energy facilities this night, and in parallel with what he continued during the... in particular, the front-line settlement of the zaporizhzhia region, we are talking about eight settlements on which he struck 360 blows in the past day, i repeat, and at the same time, the key thing is to note that out of everything possible, that they have, yes at their disposal, they struck mr. andriivka, in particular, three airstrikes were carried out on this, unfortunately, populated place, yes, at the same time, we will note 169 there, these were the launches of their various you.

well, and most of all, as it is already traditional for them, unfortunately, yes, this is the artillery that they got there, then they are talking about all the... nuts, including imov andriivka was hit by... curse money to let's add to this, yes, what are they still practicing, and here, although we have a strong side, yes, we note that our defense forces have, yes, that this is an advantage at the moment, we are talking about ftvi means, this is thanks in particular to all those who donate, yes to help the armed forces, to all volunteers, to all the procurements for the brigades, but these means you... our guys now have a little advantage in the zaporizhzhia direction and this allows us to deter it is the cursed

rashists, including in the small takmachka, where they are trying everything, and during this previous day , their next attack there was again repulsed, but this does not change the fact that the rashists , even before what he noted about this attack on populated areas , they attack fbv as well drones, and in particular, unfortunately, what distinguishes the harsha's curse. yes, from our specialists, our pilots of the armed forces of ukraine, that these bastards are the occupiers, they are attacking the civilian population. oh, in particular, mr. dmytro, i just wanted to add that an enemy drone attacked the evacuation vehicle of a wounded policeman, if i have this information correctly, it happened somewhere in gulyai in the gulyai field area, a policeman was injured, the police actually joins the evacuation. population in the zaporizhzhia region, in the donetsk region, on kharkiv oblast, well, wherever this help

is needed, kherson oblast, of course, but the enemy is deliberately hitting these evacuation vehicles, perhaps you have more information on this matter, whether the evacuation takes place in an ordinary vehicle, or are these armored vehicles after all, and some special ones, because in particular we talked recently about in donetsk region, there are still certain protective structures there. in a car, and it is not easy prey for an enemy drone, because there are armored plates, well , actually, more or less such a capsule is there to protect both those who are evacuating and themselves residents who are being evacuated, are these ordinary cars in zaporizhzhia, or are there any special vehicles that allow us to guarantee more or less safe movement and evacuation of people, mr. vasyl, you know, here we will hold such an overstatement, yes, that the evacuation is forced, well it's not that it... it's not forced, it's voluntary, yes, for which there is registration, and it is important and necessary

to take the residents out of these territories, and here, in particular , we will note from the statistics, yes, that in these front-line settlements, in including the field is close to there 10 left percent of the residents of these settlements, the evacuation is being carried out, but let's specifically walk the field now, let's refer to this situation that happened, then here we will note that, little by little, people are still forced, being in these hellish conditions. they leave, yes, they agree, and here we note that the relevant services are working, including the police, and here we note that this is still an armored car, it is used for this, because everyone knows about treachery and that in golovishists, that they are capable of inflicting these blows, and there is simply no such thing as one hundred percent protection from drones in the hands of a pilot who has the experience to perform these tasks. therefore, in this situation that developed in ulyapol, when police officers took measures to

evacuate a 61-year-old woman, they got into a car and were heading in a safe direction, then this damned rascal struck a blow, and here the situation was also saved, that the patrol police still had an off-road armored car, yes, well, more precisely, the policemen who order... the evacuation, we will not note characteristically that with the appropriate marking, this car, which is written in large letters, that it is the evacuation of the civilian population, here we are not talking about the armed forces or the special forces, for which they could be targeted there, and there for, well, still the type of hostilities that the rashists there, that is, they deliberately struck a blow at the civilian population, and in this situation, you know, it was gratifying, you know, not to go further in the text. that pilot, thank god he was armored the car and that the arrival took place

literally a few meters from the car, so the car was damaged, but one of the policemen was concussed, the rest, however, without any consequences for the health of the crew of this car , so this is a screaming scream such a case, and the fact that they are prone to rash and unfortunately they are continued in many ways. well, yes, we can see from this photo that the glass there is unusual for this car, it was obviously armored, and this fortunately saved people’s lives again, but oh well... what them to the good news: 10 children were returned from the occupied territories, in general, this return process is like, these are children who were separated from their parents, or who were kidnapped by the russians and transferred there to some of their special institutions, and this is a process as far as it complex, and which ones are there, is there an understanding of how many children need to be returned,

maybe there are children who remained in the occupation with their families, and how many of those children are, let's say, separated from their families, separated. their families were simply abducted by the enemy, held, and this process is to negotiate, evacuate, to what extent everything is difficult, well, mr. vasyl, let’s start from the last position, yes, it is very difficult to negotiate with these occupiers, with this evil spirit, yes, of course, due to the number of this population and in particular children who are under temporary occupation with their parents, it is the subject of the statistics of these military administrations, yes, we are talking about military administrations that were created on the basis of these settlements that are under temporary occupation, of course, this is a large class of work, but it is only gratifying in this situation that sometimes, you know, because here as an exception we say to this situation, there is an opportunity there from time to time, and they are still deported, people return from the temporarily occupied territories, in particular about the last case, yes,

that there are residents who were during the occupation of these settlements there in zaporizhzhia. kherson, donetsk regions, it was possible to deliver to the controlled territory of ukraine, there are 10 children with their parents who lived just there , as usual, there in poor conditions, of course we are talking about who, yes, can they be delivered here or there, are these people successful , if there is after all, they were lucky, because it is in fact lucky, when you know these people who are there for the government's collaborators, however, they are so uncharitable there in quotation marks, yes, that... people come back, they tell about these horrors, in in which they have to live, i.e. there in a destroyed house, and there from the arrivals, they settle this person there, this is a continuation of those stories, you know, when there was still communication between the temporarily occupied territory of the zaporizhia region, there through vasylivka, we are talking about this way life was so expensive, yes, when there are such people who were not liked by these

collaborators, are there any denunciations under the commandant's commandant's office on these people. they testified whether there were any neighbors there, or there were the hawkers there, yes, these people, as you know, were then sent on foot, then through the variable field to the controlled part of the zaporizhzhia region there, then this situation continues now, that it is about these abuses where these people are, well, of course, it was lucky that they managed to deliver the children and the dove these people under control, but you know, unfortunately, how to remove such a story now, thank you very much, we believe that... ukrainians, children, in particular, will return from the occupation, well, then, of course, eventually they will be able to return home, someday the territory will be de-occupied. dmytro kyrylchuk, deputy of the zaporizhzhya city council, was in touch with us, and now we will talk about parliamentary issues, but directly related to military issues, mobilization,

demobilization of the military police, and there are also a number of questions that worth discussing, roman kostenko, with us, people's deputy of ukraine. soldier, and colonel, mr. roman, i greet you, good day, studio, glad to see and hear, first of all i want you to comment on this statement that was made by one of your colleagues that if the pace of mobilization, i i think that you definitely have access to information about the rates, they, i will not voice them, because it is not worth doing, but you, i think, are aware of these matters, and what if the rates of mobilization, which are now in... well, related to the entry into force of the law on mobilization and the consequences of this law, its implementation will remain, then by the end of the summer it will be possible to talk about the demobilization of individual soldiers who have been on the front line for a long time and protect our state, these are words, are there really grounds to say that this could be the case ? well, because it is important for those

who are now especially at the front, and especially in the third year, i understand, i understand, look, it's been said. not so, the journalists presented it a little incorrectly, the direct statement was the following, that if the pace of mobilization if the current ones remain until the end of the summer, then we will be able to talk about the law, the bill on demobilization, because we remember when the law on mobilization was adopted, the verkhovna rada obliged the government by a separate resolution, separately, when it was removed from the law the rule on demobilization, i was against this story, but it was deleted and separately we then voted for the government to work on it, and now there was a meeting in the... committee and we were just the ministry of defense, government representatives, the general staff and we asked , you were obliged, now, what you, what

now the decision in general is on the preparation of this bill, and we heard that now the pace is satisfactory, that is, good, let's say this, if everything goes well, they will continue until the end of the summer, we can talk about working on this bill, how? and let's put it this way, what norms will it contain, what principles will be laid down in it, what will it contain, what specifics will it contain, well , no one knows this yet, but this law, we obliged, it must be worked out, you know , here i understand, perceived that if we talk about it, then it will be demobilization right in the fall, once again we are now talking about a law that will determine the issue in general, based on the situation. and the government has approved the procedure for paying these people, again voted by the people's deputies of ukraine, and an additional 70,000 hryvnias

for those soldiers who take part directly in hostilities, if you are there for a certain time there for up to 30 days, there is a certain procedure, again defined officials, executive power regarding this, and i have a question here, i am not about order, i hope that those responsible for it will definitely pay. money to those who are in certain conditions and perform certain tasks, for a certain time, they will receive what was prescribed by the people's deputies, that's one story, but are there no problems now, at least, are they not addressing the verkhovna rada with that , that perhaps the budget should be reviewed, perhaps more money is needed to provide for the mobilized, because many people are injured by this, unfortunately... people die and other people come to take their place, but still this money, plus 70,000, aren't there requests to the verkhovna rada now, at least a conversation about it, but let's perhaps

revise the budget there in the future, because we may have to allocate additional money to ensure the necessary payments voted and to provide for newly mobilized people , and everyone, everything that is connected with their preparation and provision. everything necessary for the passage, so to speak, of service on the front line. please. well, indeed, the verkhovna rada, it was just adopted in the same the resolution to which the verkhovna radaza obliged the government to develop a law on demobilization issues, and there was a question of raising the salary directly to that person up to and including the depth of the company. and this was a question precisely to raise the salary of those who are fighting on the front line. and now the question is that this norm has started to work, somewhere it is being implemented, somewhere it is already working, there at the stage of questions about see, in general,

in general, i am sure that there will be requests for, say, the reconciliation of the budget, this let's put it this way, i think that it is clear, because we have people who are properly mobilized, somewhere some programs should not be opened, somewhere some issues need to be resolved, somewhere some funds are coming in and we will need to redistribute everything, and... such requests that we are not paid money, let's redistribute the budget right now, i don't know, the committee makes such distributions, well, or the requests did not come, well, it means that there is money for the implementation of the law on mobilization, which is good, and of course, if you listen to everything that is said, somewhere they pay on time, there are some somewhere problems, well, there are always problems, in any case, i think that if the problem arises acutely, it will definitely be with... and it is worth looking for money, because you know here, i will say such a banal thing, but it is objective in a state of war, that if there are certain people somewhere in the rear, again

i am not talking about the socially vulnerable, there are people who have illnesses, pensioners, somewhere someone can suffer or find some other part-time job, on the front a soldier cannot find a part-time job, if somewhere there are delays with payments, then we understand that this is a lot of problems, because it is something to repair somewhere, and to support my brothers and sisters, and someone died somewhere, to support the family, well... there are always needs for treatment, so again i think that there should be no problems with timely payment of salaries to military personnel, although again there are various nuances, i still want , so that you, i think you've read these stories, and here you have to find out to be a professional lawyer and know all the norms in order to talk about it professionally, so i'm not going to talk professionally, i 'm going to ask the way it's presented , you will already say whether it is a fake or whether it is really true, lawyers now explain why is ukraine being recruited into the army, we do not currently have conscription, it is meant for serving in combat units, or there in support units.

men up to 25 years old, although in our country the age limit is lowered by law, well, from 25, are there really such facts, are there really any norms that give the right to recruit and send men to training camps, and then to military service, to 25 years, here it is important to understand, so that you know, there was no betrayal on one side, but on the other side there was an understanding that this could be the case. in which cases, please, well, we do not have a ban on conscripting people under the age of 25, we simply have the concept of conscripts, there are military conscripts, and these are two two different categories of people, conscripts are those people who have not completed their military service, they did not study at the military department, they did not acquire the status of conscripts before the age of 25, and they are not really called up, they can only leave at

their own will and this is important. on a contract and for them there is an opportunity to go to annual contracts and after them, then demobilize for example, and no one will call them up to the age of 25 either, we made this norm and it is a good story when you can be called up for a year, even when you are not yet 25 years old. a different story, if you are conscripted and this includes, if you did military service before the age of 25, if you studied at a military department and... because if, say, you were discharged in peacetime and reached the age of 25, you received a military a ticket that you are, for example, unfit in peacetime, but fit in military, you are automatically you become conscripted, and by law you can be drafted, so if you served, for example, at the time of the 22nd year, you were 19 there, at the age of 20 you went to serve and at the age of 21 you finished the term, and three days later mobilization has begun, then you are already there...

despite the fact that you are 21 years old, because you have already completed military service, so once again we do not accept conscripts until the age of 25, and those who have acquired the status of conscripts as i said, they are completely legal, the law allows it to be called, plus we have a lot of them there cadets of military schools who graduate there at the age of 22, they are also there, they do not wait for 25 years, they also go to lead formations, companies there and battalions there in a while. that is, that is, a conscript, mr. roman, i am just a conscript who did not do military service, did not study at a military department, but is just a conscript, and is not decommissioned, and is not decommissioned, then he is up to 25 years old, well, they can be invited to talk, but in principle no no no, they do not have the right to take away, it is against the law, they also say in the verkhovna rada, individual deputies, again, a person will say, and then everyone will discuss it, because

, after all, the people's dep... is a person who does not just say, he is a person who passes the law, so they listen, it is important, so there is even less talk about the fact that the age can be lowered from the 25th there to the 24th, again, is it just that way and is there now, at least, an argument for the need, the need is always there, because we are fighting with an army, with a country in which the mobilization reserve is many times greater, so i understand , that there is a need, but are they talking about it now, or for the time being should it be called for, rewritten. examine, teach those who are now, is it not too early to think about reducing this age? look, that's right, at the level of let 's change something and immediately change it and make changes to the law, i haven't heard such a thing, it should be said first of all by the committee, because this is our, let's say, our profile, that's why there are no such things in the committee are conducted, as a rule we do it, and we talk about it when

the ministry of defense comes to us. or the general staff and says: here we have it, that's why the government submits it, and we are already starting to discuss it, so far neither the government nor the general staff have made such statements it was not specifically received, each deputy there has his own position on this matter, some say yes, some say otherwise, some say it is better, for example to lower it there, for example to 20 there or to 18, and leave the upper threshold up to 50, because well, actually after 50 it is quite difficult. and for soldiers to perform tasks as well, that is, there are different versions, but it is the reduction of the age that will not be discussed in our committee now. i have one question, i think it certainly does not apply to you, but it applies to some of your colleagues, but rukh honestly provided information that in two years, well of a full-scale war, and uah 64.5 million was spent, i understand that they are provided for in the budget for the needs of the verkhovna rada, a separate article, there are no questions here, it's all for

housing rent, i'm leading to that. will it ever be possible to talk about what if...