all nato members have determined for themselves 2%, that they will finance 2% of their gdp for defense, if previously germany, france, italy, and other leading european countries still avoided it, and while still being president, donald trump actually insisted that all of them spent a consolidated 2% of gdp on armaments for defense, then actually the russian war against... the west woke up. gdp germany - 4.5 trillion dollars, france's gdp - 3 dollars, italy's gdp - 2.1 trillion dollars, it seems, in poland - 700 billion dollars. these are only four countries. i took

the leading states of western europe and the central and eastern european country of our neighbor, now 2% of this, it is already accumulating more than 200 billion, 200 billion of investments in armaments, that is , as of now, they have already found a driver for the development of the economy not only in europe, but also in the world, and the defense industry itself, the development of the military-industrial complex will be that the driver that will start the economy, today's announcement that... that french and german rainmetal are building plants on the territory of ukraine, rain metal received $8.5 billion from the federal budget for the production of the 155 caliber. it is a similar story in the united states, too, although they have 2% of their gdp - this is a much larger amount, but nevertheless, as i said, there is actually a driver for the development of the economy, and it shows that the west has made a final decision for itself .

but they only take careful steps solely out of fear that there is a possibility of the use of any nuclear weapon by russia, and putin's visit to north korea, to the great ammunition plant, just confirms that putin is raising the stakes actually in nuclear blackmail, not through personally, therefore that under agreements with china. i understand that there was a very strong talk from xi jinping that nuclear blackmail is impossible, so then he found a proxy force if certain missile technologies are provided, because we know that north korean missiles are ballistic, with which they scare, as if will be supplied to russia for an attack on ukraine, they are falling, by the way, a few days ago, just a very vivid example was that the missile did not reach the destination, fell apart in the air, that is, it is possible that north korea has nuclear weapons, but... their carriers are very

are imperfect, and russia can blackmail the west by providing technology to improve nuclear weapons carriers, so the conclusion, in my opinion, next year, in 2025, this war should end, there will definitely be no peace agreements, but there will be agreements on a ceasefire, and this is the only reasonable option given various factors, primarily that. that the ukrainian people really cannot accept any peace negotiations a priori, too many dead, too great a tragedy for us, the second factor is purely legislative, i cannot imagine that president zelensky will change his personal decree prohibiting negotiations with putin with his directive, that is, it is possible imagine some kind of format with mediators, but all the same it will be agreements on a ceasefire, and the third... factor, let's see what will happen

at the july summit, nato's jubilee summit. if our partners from the west make a historic decision that ukraine will get a chance to join nato in the near future, even after the acute phase and ceasefire from russia, from ukraine, this means peace for many years to come for us. we are joining our conversation with anatoly hrabchynskyi, aviation expert, deputy. the general director of the milteritech company, well, today we have such, i think, the viewers who watch us at first noticed how our broadcast is structured, in the studio we discuss about things that, let's say, we can talk about for months, when these negotiations will take place, what they will be like, whether it is worth going to them at all, we will talk with our online speakers more quickly about the current situation, mr. anatoly, i have a question for you regarding of what happened: in the lviv region,

it was a long time ago that the shaheds did not fly to us, we all saw the footage of what happened in malykhov, it seems malykhov. it is essentially a part of lviv, it used to be a village, now it is part of the city of lviv, private business was affected, by the way, we can say our colleagues, people who provide light, screens at various events, but now i wanted to ask you about russian tactics, the next, the next night, we were informed that tu planes flew into the air. are carriers of missiles, various types of missiles, first of all, as i understand it, x-rays of various modifications, everyone was waiting for a missile attack, but these carcasses both took off and then returned somewhere back to their airfields, and now many people are wondering what

the russians are up to, why yes, why did the shaheds fly to lviv oblast again, which was the next day, when everyone was waiting for rocket fire, it did not happen, what are they preparing? well, let's start with the fact that in fact there was a missile attack, but the launches were carried out from the equator of the caspian sea and, in principle, the missiles entered from the side of the front line, that is, we are talking about the fact that russia tried to enter the territory of ukraine from consideration, using the line of combat collision in order for it not to be there, well, since there is no possibility, for example, for more powerful air defense systems to work there, close to the contact line, then they expected to pass. unnoticed and enter directly into the territory of ukraine, therefore , in principle, recently, let's pay attention to the fact that the number of aircraft used by russia has recently decreased, we are talking about strategic aviation and the number

of loads directly of missiles of the x101 or x555 class, which they carry, what does it have to do with it, because actually russia understands that strategic aviation that flies at a distance there... and can use missiles that shoot at a distance of up to 400 km, and russia must preserve their resource, because it is a tool for war with nato, with which it scares the whole world, and therefore it plans to reduce the use of them, because i understand that the resource on these planes is limited, because let's go back to what is actually in 2 .5 years of a full-scale invasion, russia actively used these planes, and they are significantly depleted in terms of resources. and with regard to general tactics, changing tactics, we see that russia is increasingly actively using strike drones, shaheds, because this is a tool that actively loads our anti-aircraft defense, and as we can see, sometimes they have such opportunities to break through certain directions and fly to lviv or to

the western part of ukraine, so again, the main task of russia now is the load of air defense and the complication of work, i.e.... exhaustion it should be noted here that, in principle, everyone expected with the arrival of the new head of the ministry of defense of the russian federation that there would be some change in the conduct of tactics, because in principle, the person who came, she counts the numbers, she understands for example, the use of the resource, but as we can see, russia still did not give up massive missile strikes and continues to use them, but their application capabilities will deteriorate further and further, because after all... technical preparation, technically russia is weak, it can only use a large number of weapons, and by the way, regarding the previous speaker who said that russia can provide korea with certain developments regarding carriers, i have great

doubts here, because in fact russia is also suffering now from the technical capabilities of its carriers, all that russia can get from korea is only artillery shells and ah... bad ballistics, which it is now using directly in the direction of kharkiv. mr. anatoly, why is it still so difficult to beat shaheds? they are maneuvering, what are their tactics now? the tactics of repulsing the blows of the shaheds are carried out at the expense of the mobile group. in fact, ukraine has built a powerful mobile group system that helps to destroy them, but in any case, one must not forget that it is necessary to build, but... an echeloned air defense system, which would take into account the low-altitude radar field, that is, we are talking about low-flying, inconspicuous air targets, and it is necessary to work more actively in the direction of automating the destruction of these systems, and so, for example, rain metal together with leopard

is now making certain systems that will help this the issue must be resolved, but nevertheless, we must not forget that there are ukrainian companies engaged in development in this direction, and in the near future... we will be able to see certain solutions, and i return again, the main task is the creation of a system of automatic destruction, reducing the personnel involved in this, because a is an important e... so, there is an important component, this is what we are saying about the need to automate systems, reduce the use of personnel on the line of both combat contact and directly countering even such threats as a missile strike. thank you, anatoly khrepchynskyi, an aviation expert, analyzed in detail the situation that happened this week and what we should expect from the russian aggressor in the coming weeks. let's go into the short. these are really the summaries of our broadcast today, we have 20, maybe even 17

minutes left before the end of the program, but i would like everyone to briefly subpoena, mr. smilka, a question for you, we talked a lot about the negotiations, what they might be, at which conditions, and you said about it that we should not negotiate with putin there, but with some russians whose hands are not covered in blood, but we understand that the situation depends on the battlefield, and what happens on the battlefield depends. depending on how large the ukrainian army will be have reserves and can replenish them, we return to the topic that was raised with lazutkin, this is the spokesman of the ministry of defense, he said that the plus reserve has already become a document, how are these processes happening now, what can you say, does it make it easier to equip the army, the last two mi- the last month, so give me a month, because a new one was adopted exactly a month ago, i entered into... the law on mobilization on may 18, now on june 20, what is the situation, i

will tell you yes, i heard your colleague’s question well, today to colonel babich, what they want the military there now, yes, colonel, everyone wants to go to their families, everyone understands that, everyone is there, just like i was there in my time, everyone from the first day, everyone understands that there is such a period that now it is impossible, but i will tell you that the most realistically, realistically, everyone is looking at things on the front lines. everyone trivially wants at least a rotation, just to take them to the rear, rest, see a shower, to wash their things, you know, trivial, here are ordinary household things, come, turn on the switch, the light came on, and not to walk with a candle or to charge flashlights, just banal human things that we are here, we are used to it, and there is not all that, and you begin to appreciate it very much, you understand, but in order to be replenished, you need people, you know, yesterday it so happened that i was at home and met with... my classmate vasyl, and we talked with him and touched on the topic of our class, classmates, you

know, we talked with him, talked about how there are not enough people at the front, so that classmate has a heart bypass, there a hole in the heart, he can't really serve there serious heart problems, there were operations, and we looked, i am in my class, banal simple things, someone says, you go, fight for power, i will not fight and the like, no, we looked with that friend of mine who helps the front a lot. i was at zero on my own, he always helped me and brought cars, for which i thank him, he says: you know, you are the only one in our class who fights with the boys, you fight alone, but there, for example, you can’t be alone there, because once a hundred fell on him, it was badly broken, the other leg refused, and those of our classmates are sitting in poland, it is not known where, well , i will not speak for the girls of their wives, men, but of the 13 boys, well, let me tell you, vitaly, you are the only one who is fighting, you understand, if we all think like that now, well we studied there together from the first grade, graduated, but you saw me there,

let’s say i was born in camouflaged dustbins, what does someone say, i wasn’t born for war, i’m not ready, i wasn’t born either, they know me, but for some reason it turns out that there are units, that is, this, you understand, and therefore boys there is no one to change, if it is banal , there were 13 of us in the class and at least five or six from each of my class, we are healthy, adult people, then a third of them are. i will at least leave, then there will be a rotation, you understand, but on the other hand, i will tell you this, sometimes i am surprised by the position of the day, we are fighting here, we are talking, but what, i understand people sometimes, but what i go to fight, here are the heads three children of the village council do not fight, i have a good example, i do not want to name the name of the village council, three sons are of a good age, they have not fought anything in the ato so far pir, this father of theirs was the head of the village council for a very long time, and you understand, none of them fought, they went to the gym well, they were healthy, you can not... i understand that a person seeing such a situation, having one child, they call for the fact,

but they don’t take it a bit, the mood too, i understand people, you understand, but at the same time, using your broadcast, i love it so much, you know, as a matter of fact, the lyrics are all the same, you can say a lot, i have a strange position, mr. andrii sadovy does not know whether this is his position when the guys from the central committee are checking parking attendants, those are the ones who issue... fines, the tow truck, healthy guys, they are checked for reservations, you will be surprised, the teacher can reserve for six months, for a year, the combiner who collects. the farmer will have bread for six months, and then they can take it away directly from the combine harvester, let's say, there are critical professions where, well, you have to leave those guys, people here, the parking attendant, it turns out, parking attendants are so important in lviv profession, he has a reservation and you have a healthy man, i saw it all the way through

of a special period, well, they are bini, but it’s interesting that you are so critically healthy... a man who can fight is half a head taller than me, there is a seseoshnik, well, in my opinion, i ’m not, i’m not a doctor, i don’t know the diagnosis, but the sesochnik is ready, he has reservations until the end of the war, just think about this, excuse me, mr. andriy sadovy, we have guys, wounded, disabled, someone has a bone removed, someone is dumb, they can’t do anything wrong now, they have a disabled pension, they cannot find a job somewhere, because they have restrictions on work, even an employee of the company, he wants to take it, he says, you have a limb, your arm is torn off, you have a protest, well, i can’t, because i have production, well, it’s not on time, i can’t, i can’t take such guys to work, there are good salaries, by the way, at the moment yes, if you look at it, the salaries of the municipal police in lviv are quite good, and you don’t need to make reservations, they don’t need to, they are already written off, you can’t take the guys,

ladies can fulfill this role, take a photo and issue a fine and so on similar is it, you know, for cover, and what is that interesting then, by the way, there are probably some parking lots in kyiv and in other cities, with those armors, i am saying that there are in fact, with those armors to the end a special period, here it’s a little bit, you know, we need to figure it out, let the guys provide it, but on the other hand, i’ll tell you honestly how it is, the guys say, yes, god is with him already from that rotation, replenish us, but now we see queues in the military commissariat, worked very well. this is what has already taken away that status, unusable peacetime, limitedly usable wartime, and it turns out, many people, yes, he was unsuitable, they were not moved until the 18th, after the 18th they pass the commission, and so he is unsuitable for special operations forces, there are amphibious assault troops, naval approach, but he will be suitable , for example, i am a witness, jehovah's witnesses are called now, everything in the law

is clear, the virus story is not an obstacle to protect, so that you cannot protect the state, i know, i will not... he is such a krishnadim, a real krishnadim, now he serves in the armed forces of recently mobilized, and the commander platoon, he was a reserve officer, he is now serving in the armed forces, that is, he can fight, don't look for a reason not to fight, the government, a neighbor, something else, take it and fight, because if we are not healthy men now, we will not take up arms and we will not fight, we will watch our grandchildren fight. like our grandchildren, when we are 60, 70 years old there, russia will never give us peace, never, look, the upa was, fought with russia, who are now the descendants of the upa, their grandchildren, that is, we are fighting again, if we do not we want to see that our grandchildren are fighting, and when we are ready to go, don't go, grandson, don't go, but

you yourself won't be able to hold a weapon even then, who can, you have to take up arms and defend the state, iryna kleimenova, i'll give it to you. one more word, i asked a soldier from the legendary cold ravine about this, they are like that, as he said, they crush everyone, everyone on the battlefield, but still, how is the mood of the military personnel who are fighting there now? i can be responsible for myself, for my unit, it is clear that a lot of people are tired, and this is so, i can talk about myself in particular, this such universal fatigue when you open your eyes if you managed to sleep. when you open your eyes and when you start weighing whether you can get up or not, this evacuation, it is a resource for you, whether someone survives or not, and a lot of people are tired, and a lot of people are angry that the rear failed his work, because many of us, and myself personally, we think that thiel should do his

part, not think about the next election in 10 years, not think about how much they will put in the ... pocket, or who they will protect so that they owe it to them, as specifically in this case and so on, namely about priorities, and i don't think about when i'm working on a wounded person, i don't think about whether i like this guy or this girl or not, i have priorities, i have a protocol and it says stop the massive bleeding and don't start breathing until he's bleeding because it doesn't matter if he's breathing or not if he's breathing... it will leak out in a minute, and now we have a situation where we have massive bleeding in one place, and not even that in one place, but seriously, such a swollen pelvis, massive bleeding, and at the same time we are thinking about non-massive bleeding, about some hypothermia, about whether it is okay he has some organs working, but we are dying in one part of the country, and no matter how tired we are,

people like me and i personally want to go to the end, and i understand this perfectly, and i know very well what it is like to get used to light, and not to connect the generator, but i know very well what it is like when you have, when you you get off the plane... it is not known in what period, and you are so oops, mobile internet appears, a whole lot of happiness, and i know very well what it is, when two years or a year ago my children asked me, mom, when you you will return from the war, and now they don't ask that, they ask, mom, when will you come next time, because they have already reconciled, my eldest son is 14, and he does not ask what car i will buy him, or give him, or what he will be 18, he asks me first... drink or go to the army first, which is better, what do you think, and i mean, i really understand that i don't want to leave this war to my children or my grandchildren, but

the rear has failed its job, and until the rear does its job, we are there, we are short of rear work, replenishment, rotations, many, many more things, but our number is decreasing. for various reasons, someone writes it off , because in fact there were reasons, but people left, someone gets injured and is irreversible for the army, because his injuries cannot be cured, yes, brought to health, someone is simply disappointed, especially those people who are missing and returned, someone dies or goes missing or is captured and we don't know anything about them, and our numbers are reduced, but not replenished, and it's simple, simple... and until the rear begins to do its work, no matter how we did not want at least some part of our basic needs to be closed, we will not be able

to achieve a complete, in our understanding, victory. a year ago, almost a year ago, i lost my best combat friend, and now i have a hard time imagining how to give the zaporizhia region, where half of her body remained, because we hid only half. a month ago, i lost a very, very good fellow. i still can't believe that a man with a huge rank and with huge experience fought since the 14th year, just sat on a machine gun in armor, because it was necessary to rescue the boys, and he stayed there, and we buried a part of him, and now i can't imagine how to give time there, or some more piece, to those places where more faithful and dear people lie, for which there are simply no more for me, so either til will start doing his... work, or we won't be able to reach to victory, important words, ksenia klym, you and i started this broadcast, and you will essentially

close it, i will now say one thing that is a little unpopular, you know, we are a little to blame for this, that the rear is failing, we allowed him too much , i remember the broadcast also in this studio, it seems a year and a half ago. when the military guys said: no, let them rest here, let them sit in a cafe here, because we are fighting for this, and the people took it very literally, you understand, and very clearly, and you see, well, this tolerance of ours and probably, too many times these people patriots take it upon themselves, and not even the rear should not just fail there not... in those in the work that he has to perform during the war, and he has to carry out rotations, really , and the guys no arms, no legs can be

parking attendants no problem, and i can get behind a truck and not necessarily this healthy driver can drive this car, and we women can do everything, as it was during the second world war, that changed , absolutely nothing, we will either live or not... we will be and that's all, the question is to be us or not well, ladies, it's not our fault, it's from the first day of the invasion that we were told that the war would end in two or three weeks, that we are one step closer to victory, that we are in crimea, that we have already won, that's why, you know, everything has to start over from top to bottom, and in principle, we were constantly, you know, preparing ourselves for the fact that you can relax, victory is coming, and i will not forget it, i will remember it after the victory, let's draw a line, we really were. various statements at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, perhaps not all of them carried the right messages, well, i think that now we are these rose-colored glasses, who wore them,

who had them. i have already removed them for sure, and the actual project says velikiy lviv, it is about the truth. thanks for being with us, see you next week as usual, on our youtube channel at 20:45, on espresso at 21:15. we thank our guests for all the thoughts, for the messages, those that sounded, fighters from the east of ukraine, from difficult directions joined us, and they also talked about the fact that, first of all, we need to hold on, and secondly, what would it was not the case here. you still need to prepare for war, because it is and it is obvious that it will be, these are hard words, it is a hard truth that we have to accept, take care of yourself.

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