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18:15 at espresso. events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, the news feed reports on them. however, it was not enough to know what was happening. it is necessary to understand. antin borkovskii and invited experts soberly assess the events, analyze them, modeling our future. every saturday at 1:10 p.m. with a repeat at 2 p.m. studio event with anton borkovsky on espresso. congratulations once again harle kunlyar, you are watching a joint project of the first crimean tatar tv channel atr and tv channel razom birabir the studio works for you.

communications expert, manager of the aviation sector, mr. bohdan, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations. yes, let's start the conversation with ukrainian drones that fall into russian territory, but every day the ministry of defense of the russian federation literally declares that it shoots down 120 ukrainian drones, then 100, then 70, 115, have we really already learned how to attack russian territory with such a number of drones and are they really knocking them down or are they just reporting their viewers to their audience? that the drones are going astray, actually we are we reach the goal. well, look, if we talk specifically about the specified number, then more than a hundred drones that would have achieved their goal, we would actually see much brighter reactions from the russians and not single, relevant

oil refineries would burn, but dozens at the same time, that’s why there are probably two important points, firstly, i can say that the russians regularly like to inflate the real numbers to... in order to visit in front of their citizens, i.e. not seeing how ukraine effectively destroys dozens or hundreds of their respective kamekaze-type drones shaket, and in order not to look much worse, they simply increase this number, relatively speaking, they increase dozens of drones to a hundred, and non-existent drones are simply recorded as those that were shot down, the generals are happy because they receive medals, the corresponding military personnel who those close to them receive bonuses, that is, everyone remains satisfied, here. if we actually look at this situation, then we have to understand that, after all , some of the drones can be destroyed in one way or another, and this is absolutely normal, we see that even those shaheds launch, as as a rule, there is still a certain percentage, which is 10-15%, unfortunately, it achieves

its goals, as well as ukrainian drones, i hope that this percentage is much higher, because according to official data, how many are launched and how many they are hit directly by that... unfortunately, there are no other objects, so it is difficult to assess the effectiveness of ukrainian drones in particular, but the number of ulanka and destroyed drones, which are shown by the relevant russian military, does not exactly speak to the version, which is interesting hundreds of drones, after all, we are talking about the launch of dozens of long -range drones, but for their cover , relatively speaking, cheap small drones can be used, which are also launched into the so-called buffer zone, that is , up to 50 km... the front line or the territory bordering the russian federation, where the radio-electronic warfare system is quite aggressive and has many things against air defense, here i would like to note, another gulsum, i will take one question from you, and i would like to note that the russians mostly use the same

models of drones, there are shaheds, well, there are their modifications, their geraniums, but ukraine is constantly experimenting, i remember the beaver, then that drone. which at first did not have its name, then they began to call it the february, and then some other modifications, that is, we constantly have some kind of experimental work, and it is connected, as i understand it, with the fact that we cannot use western models of such weapons for attacks on the russians, so they are forced to develop something of their own, and the russians buy just ready-made iranian models, or am i mistaken, or do we act approximately the same, well, look at the situation here. quite different, because the first important component: most drones, they all consist of western components, including navigation systems, control systems, engines, etc., if you look in principle at these products, which are also ukrainian, including those purchased for outside the borders of ukraine, it is

still such a zoo of various drones, there are several reasons, because on the one hand, of course, the resources on the market access and purchases, they are limited, that is, you have to buy. not by thousands, but by tens or hundreds, and all this is stretched over months of their supply, that is, from different suppliers, different models, in order to cover the required amount. the second important component is, of course, domestic production, but it is also based on western components. today, it is quite difficult for the russians to get these components, first of all, when it comes to the so-called dual purpose military components, and this, of course, narrows the possibility of teresians to create new samples of unmanned vehicles. because after all, the main market where they can take these components is the chinese market, but it also has certain limitations, and this leads to the fact that the range, it narrows, on the one hand, on the other hand works if the model, when after all the state already has domestic

production for assembling these drones, it’s a komikazy type of shahket, they simply take them en masse in order to reduce their cost, that is, in principle, ukraine could also move in the direction of creating large powerful factories for the production of thousands of drones, but such factories, unfortunately, will become almost an instant target of the enemy, so another system works, so with... how it works at sea, the so-called mosquito fleet, so it works with production, i.e. diversification, small producers, their large number, i.e. it is basically impossible to destroy such production, and it is interesting that we have drones that fly even to bashkartastan and tatarstan, which, if i am not mistaken, 1200 and 1300 km , but very interesting, what kind of drones are these and where is the real russian anti-aircraft defense, well, look, if we talk about this one... for now, unfortunately, we are talking about single such damage, that is, unfortunately , we are not talking about some serial drone, that is

, most likely there is a converted so -called ultralight aircraft, and in addition, such strikes at such a long distance of more than 100 km, to date there are only a few of them, eh, the key task is precisely to pass the buffer air defense system, here it is actually 50-60 km after the border with russian the federation begins the so-called internal airspace of the russian federation, where you can fly a long distance, practically being unnoticed and with low mobility to be shot down, that is, because there are complexes specifically c300, c400, they are imprisoned under the destruction of large targets, at high speeds, as a rule at altitudes there are three or more kilometers, if we look at these drones that hit russian objects, then they fly at much lower altitudes, at the same time , the greatest danger for such drones is not so much the air defense system, so that even pansery is specialized. has only about a hundred units, and the more serious ones are electronic warfare systems, that is, rebs,

which can also affect the navigation signal, and this leads to the fact that such drones can physically simply fall and crash, and we see that the number of the so -called drones intercepted by the russians, it is not measured by the number of downed ones, but mainly shows the wreckage of drones that were directly planted or destroyed by the use of rebs, and nothing. recently, the center of strategic communications, he calculated the losses of russia, russian occupiers in the territory of temporarily occupied crimea over the past 3-4 months, and there they write that russia has lost dozens of air defense systems, dozens of s-300, s-350, s-400 systems , and more importantly, russia lost 15 radars. them stations. recently, it became known that russia has already, unfortunately, repaired the kerch crossing.

please tell me if they can recover all these losses that we have seen in the last three or four months and how much they, well necessary for this time. well, look, from the point of view of air defense systems in particular, the production cycle was long enough, that is , we can be talking about years here. however, the number of systems that have the federation remains large enough, that is, we are talking about hundreds of units of such complexes, at the same time, in order to cover individual objects on the territory of the crimean peninsula, they will need to remove these objects from other parts of the russian federation, thus reducing protection of certain objects, it is first of all airfields, individual places, thus directly creating more gaps for the possibility of drones, for example, to enter the russian federation from other directions, because today we only see strikes inflicted on drones flying from the territory

of ukraine, but given that this area and air coverage will be reduced, in principle nothing prevents the creation of a conditional conversion of a ship into an aircraft carrier of such drones and striking other territories of the russian federation, but of course it is necessary to understand how these ships will then safely leave the zone affected by the russian aircraft or the corresponding sea vessels. in addition, if we talk specifically about the destruction of anti-aircraft defense systems on the territory of crimea, this may be one of the stages of preparation for the next military operations on the territory of crimea, including the use of western aviation platforms such as f16, because in principle the thinning and destruction of the walls air defense, it is possible to do this in crimea today much easier than, for example, in other regions, because there is less forest there, and there are certain corresponding hilly areas, that is... the number of locations where these systems can be deployed is much smaller,

so move some other locations or to hide it is also quite difficult due to the lack of a large amount of forest, that is, in fact, crimea will turn into a kind of shooting range for the destruction of russian air defense systems with a sufficiently high efficiency, well, plus there are ukrainian partisans who, of course, report about the movement of russian military equipment, and... quite effectively, as far as i know, we know directly about several partisan groups, the largest of them, and also, i wanted to ask about naval pladrones, maguras, i know, i understand that you are aviation experts, there is an aviation . the same topic, missiles that hit air targets are now installed on sea platforms, how effective is the use of a sea platform for launching such missiles, or is it just experiments for now? well, look, we see that in principle there are a number of such launchers, it increased, but at the same time they felt the threat these installations represent for helicopters, as well as for

airplanes that fly at low altitudes, mainly, if we talk about flights at low altitudes, then this is just... fighter aircraft, which can conduct reconnaissance or search for such naval drones for their further destruction, that is, it is actually one of the means of protecting these naval drones from air attacks, well, because these missiles, they have a so-called thermal homing warhead, but their admission from the ground, it has certain limitations, first of all it affects the maximum range at which such missiles can operate, i.e. they are reduced from tens of kilometers there to... two or three times, i.e. to a significantly shorter range, it also affects the maximum height to which these missiles can fly, that is, if they provide for the destruction of a target at an altitude of 10-12 km, at ranges there of the order of 50-70 km, then unfortunately, the bush of the earth will limit the maximum height there to three four, maybe 5 km, of course the maximum range will not be there either

probably exceed 10-12 km, due to the fact that air resistance near the ground is much greater. the first component, the second component, that when the rocket is launched from an airplane, it already has an additional speed of the order of 500-600 km or more per hour, and when launched from the ground, it has, that is, an initial minimum speed of tens of kilometers there, and of course it loses the largest amount of energy for this, that is, this approach can be effective, but only against a sufficiently narrow list of the whole, that is, these are helicopters, planes that can be directly used to conduct reconnaissance and the search for such drones, mr. bohdan, i remember... even before the full-scale invasion of you as a civil aviation expert and you, i think, could comment on the question of the restoration of civil aviation communication, whether it is realistic to restore it during the conduct of hostilities actions, or should we wait until russia capitulates? well, look, the question here is also quite complex, that is, we already see there are examples from around the world, as well as israel, when

air traffic, it was restored and even its suspension there was the largest that... hours, including in the conditions of the existing missile attacks, which were somewhat commensurate with the waves of attacks that the russian federation will carry out against ukraine. at the same time, we see that ukraine has not yet made such a decision, so the decision to open the airspace must be initiated by ukraine. there was information about the beginning of certain consultations there with such global aviation regulators as the fa, this is the american administration, and the european agency eas. safety of canvases, at the same time we have not seen the results of these negotiations, here, and what they were, whether positive or negative, but in principle we see that there are experiences and approaches in the world, that is, this is also the so -called segmentation of airspace, when not all airspace is closed, separate zones are determined, risks are calculated for of these zones and a decision is made about certain restrictions and flight conditions in

separate zones, that is, there are options, there are also approaches, here the question remains. it is technical and political, the political readiness of the relevant state authorities to decide that they are ready to open it air traffic, the second important word is, of course, a technical one, i.e. today air traffic is controlled, in principle , by the military, i.e. there must also be their readiness and their assertion that they can ensure and coordinate the safe operation, if not of the entire airspace, then of separately defined airfields or separately defined zones, including working hours. regulatory framework, how who reacts, who makes decisions, how aircraft operate in conditions of certain threats, how they operate on the ground, not the same as the relevant airports, do they have storage, how and for what time do they have to move other passengers to the conditional storage there from possible missile or other strikes, well, here are the airports that can be launched first,

let’s conclude something with you, maybe pariahs lviv, uzhhorod, kyiv, what will it be first? well, look, first of all. we understand that from the point of view of the means of destruction that reach, the ports that are farthest from the respective launchers of the federation, they have a higher level of security, that is, the probability that the drone will fly there to lviv or uzhgorod, it is substantially less than the probability of this drone reaching kyiv, in addition , the risks and efficiency of shooting down certain objects are superimposed on this map, that is, we see a sufficiently high efficiency around kyiv and the number of destroyed targets, that is, here in the first place. indeed, this zone of more protected cities includes both kyiv and individual airfields in western ukraine, but in order to make an actual assessment, it is necessary to have a complete picture. i.e. all statistics on launches and destroyed targets and to understand the existing air defense systems, what means of destruction they can destroy, that is, whether they can destroy

only cruise missiles and communication drones, or whether they can also counter ballistic missiles of certain strength or certain characteristics. and thank you very much, mr. bohdan, chogsaglin, for finding time and joining our broadcast, we will meet in other broadcasts of the atr tv channel and the tv channel. choh sag. bohdan dolintse, aviation expert, manager of the aviation sector, was in direct contact with us. i want to call viewers who watch us on youtube, be sure to subscribe to the youtube channel, if you watch on youtube, respectively, on the atp, it is better to go to both youtube channels and set a favorite, set the bell and comment on this broadcast, we come after the broadcasts in the comments, respond to questions, if they are based on the essence of the questions that we... touched on in our broadcasts. well, this is really very important for us, very important, both for the espressa tv channel and for the atp tv channel, because the more people

just like or just write comments, especially others who have not seen our broadcasts, have not heard our broadcasts, will already see them, too, well, unfortunately, this is how youtube algorithms work, and they will also be able to simply hear news about crimea, about occupied crimea and about everything that is happening there . it is very important, it is such a bridge, one might say, between matrakova ukraine and occupied crimea, that is, we are telling occupied crimea that ukraine does not forget about crimea, and ukraine is really doing, doing everything today for its deoccupation, in ukraine, the mainland part of ukraine, we talk about what people on the territory of the temporarily occupied crimea is still waiting for the armed forces of ukraine. i would like to spend just such a bridge between mainland ukraine and crimea, and look, while in mainland ukraine, on the banks of the dnipro, the beaches are full of people,

the crimean beaches are empty, we have a corresponding video, i will ask our technical team to show this video, it is something incredible, the heat is enormous in the crimea, but at the same time there are no vacationers there, and even i would say those are the shots we see. that the beaches are not sufficiently prepared for recreation, but rather they are are preparing for the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine, than for rest, and at the same time you can observe what is happening on the beaches in kyiv, not everywhere you can swim, there is martial law, but we also see people moving around and swimming on and on kayaks and, in principle, resting on the beach in march. but really all this will change, yes, when ukraine returns to crimea and returns crimea to ukraine, and then everything will change, as it was

before 2014. and finally, i urge you, if you see a qr code on the screen, to transfer money, specifically for the liberation of crimea, the subdivision oshb-48, which bears the name, nomena cheli. this unit was created from crimeans, who are mostly crimean tatars and who seek to liberate their homeland. well, unfortunately, we are already ending this broadcast, stay with us, stay with the first crimean tatar tv channel atp and espresso tv channel and we will meet in a week. i, andriy yanitsky and my colleague gulsyum khalilova were with you today. korushken korushkenja, so goodbye, attention, a good offer,

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