we are of the position that sanctions will remain against russia until russia pays for the damage it has done, we will continue to work with our g7 partners on this issue of russian assets, i would also like to say that the g7 group has a lot of time it took away, none of us even thought that such a result would be at the g7 summit, a lot. legal proceedings, financial work, diplomatic efforts have led to the fact that now the initiative is on the botsya of ukraine, now i want to ask the audience to ask questions, i see two questions, please be the first. lyaslyashko, member

of the parliament of ukraine. i was in berlin, i think that berlin, it was a success for one important reason, that they finally reached a paradigm in the talks, we are talking about recovery, about things that need to be done now. and the second change was that security and air defense are part of the conversation. that we're having on the economy, i think it's very important, but i have a question about the economy and the restrictions on russia, when you say it's possible, it was humiliating for putin ride, ride north korea, i'm not sure he felt so humiliated, is it a question or? russia

to continue the war or not, but i have a question, what do our representatives of these countries think about economic sanctions and limiting the ability of russia to continue aggression against ukraine, are we doing enough for this, obviously not, we need to do more, share your view, you ask is this a question for someone in particular? to everyone, well, actually, to everyone, but you decide, natalka, you will be the first, please, please, i’m just looking at my notes, at the summit we said about 27 new sanctions against individuals and legal entities from russia, and that's about 3,000 in total for canada . sanctions that we have introduced against russia, i

believe that they are working, i know that there are certain workarounds, but i think that in terms of economic sanctions, all these ways to work around, they are not very effective, our sections. sanctions mainly apply to those engaged in propaganda and disinformation. 27 people who are employed in the defense industrial complex in russia, as well as in the propaganda sectors, that is these are the ones against whom we imposed sanctions in canada. yaroslav, i think that it is also relevant for the european union to raise this issue regarding sanctions, as well as... what is your opinion, this is

a political issue, a technical issue and a little even a philosophical one, i understand that from the ukrainian point of view, sanctions, whatever they are were not, it will never be enough in your opinion. i know we've done a lot, maybe we could do better, but i think it's been pretty positive when you look at how we're... imposing these sanctions, especially when it comes to sanctions against the central bank of russia, as from the first day of aggression russian assets were frozen and so on, but in the eu, in order to impose sanctions, we need unanimity, all eu members and all partners must sign this decision . and we see that if something

is banned, uh, sometimes there can be certain alternative markets, but i see that sanctions. i know that when it comes to mikrychi, let's say, let's say, we also have to take into account the presence of countries like north korea and others, but we have to do at least so that the opportunity to get these chips, trace elements. russia was complicated to the maximum, and this is how we will work in the future. pavle, i think that this is also an interrelated issue with the previous one in the european elections, when there are certain

positive and negative consequences. the european party showed good results, that's good. only our forum also belongs to this ideological family, but don't you think that there are certain signs that the unity in the european parliament, the european union can be undermined, here are all these ideas about let's make europe great again and so on, how do you rate the results of the european elections. a few words, first, regarding sanctions, from the point of view of scientific analysis, then sanctions are a kind of international game, they can be evaluated

in terms of space, time and dynamics, there are certain sanctions that... and of course i will try to circumvent them, this absolutely normal dynamics for such a situation, the important thing is that it was decided to use russian assets for ukraine. not only for the reconstruction of ukraine in the future, but also for spending on defense and security. i remember

that two months ago there were many discussions with our western partners about what they finally said: ok. we are ready, but this money should be used only for the purposes of rebuilding ukraine. in my opinion, as i understand the politics and category of dynamics of this process, it was a real success not only for ukraine. but also for those who in recent months justified the possibility of using russian assets, therefore sanctions, assets and european elections, if compared,

let's say there is such a term putintern now appears as a term in me. this is a new version of the former commentary, this one will try to work with certain political parties in the west, as stalin cooperated with communist parties in various countries, and in the same way, in fact, use these parties, give them funding, credit. to encourage them to play a certain role in political processes, and in case of their victory, to receive an instrument of influence on the governments of western countries, in

order to change their policies and direct them in the way that... putin wants it, in the past, as stalin wanted it, that is, it is the same way of obtaining tools. influence the situation in the west. and in this context. after all, of course we can have certain possible problems in france, but not in the general european, eu context. if the national front wins the general election, it will.

especially in social networks in the west, i see the same propaganda in social networks in poland, plus it's politics, like me. to influence politics western countries, then i see that the result is relatively positive, from the point of view that is important and important for us, the position of ukraine in relation to russia, international law and so on, and in this context i can say that it is the end. the result is not so bad, as it all looks, and here the young man

wanted to ask a question, please, there is the next question after him, my name is yevhen, i represent the analytical center ukrainian prism, and my question, i address to anyone who would and will have. you have to to answer it, since this is a rather difficult question, yes, a theoretical question, the question is, of course, russia has nuclear weapons, these nuclear weapons are a certain deterrent for ukrainian allies, the problem is that, unfortunately, we do not have , the history of defeating the country, and the countries that have nuclear weapons, what is your opinion, is there

any particular theory on how to defeat a country that has nuclear weapons, i would like to ask each of you to answer this question who wanted to start, martin, i don't agree with this message, i don't think that... western partners are restrained because of nuclear weapons in russia, we have heard his threats of nuclear weapons many times, but have we stopped supporting ukraine? no, we even increased our support. of course, of course, nuclear destruction, mass destruction, is not the answer either for russia or for the world, and all these threats will not stop us, on the contrary, we will continue. and our support for ukraine, and we will be like that, when you talk about the theory of victory, we will be

also to support zelenskyi's peace plan, since this plan is based on the principles on which the security of the whole world depends and the fundamental principles of the un charter, it is very important that we remember today the day when the allies disembarked. in normandy, this is a very important issue, there was a certain connection, there was a struggle that eventually led to the formation of the united nations, and today's need to fight and the need to defend what people were fighting for in '44, in the 45th year, and these are actually the basic fundamental principles of the security of nations. i also want to mention a peace summit that united people who stand for

these principles. thank you, i wanted sofia fedina, a member of the ukrainian parliament, to ask you to speak. thank you for the opportunity to ask a question. i wanted to hear the comment of the esteemed participants of the discussion, the next question, i think. the most valuable asset for ukraine, for europe, for all countries, is time, and we lack time, time is actually playing against us. every minute, even as we sit here, our defenders die on the battlefield, and it's very humiliating for er for families to wait for er to be called and told if your own man whether it is the father or another, whether someone is still alive or not, and the more, the longer we are dealing with

negotiations, peace plans, what is the point of thinking about it. how not to provoke russia, meanwhile, moscow mobilizes more and more people, builds up its weapons, including nuclear ones, and further destabilizes the situation, you talked today about how the russian federation affects the society of western countries, through social networks, due to elections and so on, the question also arises. what is your opinion as just people and officials that more can be done here, because negotiations are a very slow mechanism, negotiations with moscow make absolutely absolutely no sense, don't you think that we should close the sky over ukraine and provide many more

ukrainian systems of such patriots so that ukraine is not completely destroyed by russia . we could have closed the sky over ukraine much earlier in order to preserve it, therefore, what else do we need to ask ukraine, what else can be done for ukraine, how can we use our efforts right now, without delay, so as not to waste time. thanks, it's me i understand that this is a voice. bel, i would like to reach out to you. with this question, but before that, i will ask ms. ambassador tsmots to answer this question, please, i feel you, i must say that i feel the same as you, the same, i want

everything as possible the sooner this war happened and the sooner it would end. but this is an observation, if you will allow me, when the war started, no one saw that ukraine would deal with it so well in the first few days, it was a surprise for us, i think for the ukrainians as well, how well they did succeeded as much as they all united, and i think that because of this and other countries, other peoples, i can... that canadians are watching, watching with expectations, and they are proud of how well ukrainians have overcome this adversity, but what time gives, the opportunity, it gives ukraine the opportunity to gain strength, to prepare,

to develop its army, it is modernizing now much faster than... it would be otherwise, but the ukrainian army is modernizing at such a pace that no one could have imagined, the technology that here it develops and moves forward, we all watch it and learn, we learn from the ukrainians, that's what time has brought to ukraine, you now have the most... experienced and competent army, armed forces and security forces in the world, and i'm sure of that, and you will teach the rest of us how to do it, that there will be joint exercises where we will learn from you, we also see that in connection with this war, what is needed,

it is changing, and defense technologies. are now appearing, about which no one was concerned before, some military factories were simply abandoned, because no one thought that it will be needed, and i think that we, as a world , are adapting to this reality and trying to work together with ukraine for its defense, i absolutely sincerely believe that we are these people who want to... support ukraine, and i am impressed canadians, ordinary canadians, raising money, for drones, for other technologies. and the technologies that are developing here, and this is also provided by other factors, as well, but i hear you, and i believe that we all collectively

want an end to this war, we want ukraine to win and succeed. thank you as we come to the end of our conversation, i think that... i want to ask, to ask each of our speakers, to say one sentence for the ukrainians who are on the front lines. i know we have a lot of followers following us right now and i want to start with ambassador taylor. to hear the signal from washington for the ukrainians on the front, what is connected with what we have seen at these important international

meetings, and what we will see at the nto summit in washington this july. thank you, very briefly, for those who are at the front, for all ukrainians heroes, wherever they were, fought or supported. the united states and all the allies on your side, and the g7, and nato, and the coalition, we are all committed to achieving your victory, your success, and we understand, we appreciate your struggle, your bravery , and your sacrifice, and we want to do everything, to help you succeed, i want to ask france to speak. i would say that for those on the front, i would say that there is

a big difference between ukrainian soldiers and russian soldiers, ukrainian soldiers, they know what they are fighting for, they are fighting for their land, they are fighting for their country, they are fighting for theirs. values, i don't know what the other side is fighting for, and that's the big difference, and i think that's the recipe for success. i want to say very simply. this is very important to hear from the european union. first of all, i want to thank you.

the second part, because i met the soldiers in the trenches several times, i... remember every day the faces, and this is a great inspiration for my political work, and the third, the last, is a turning point in stories, we take, you participate in the creation of a great story, because it is a turning point. the russian empire will finally be destroyed, i am sure, it is a very difficult process, it is a very

difficult time, but it is the beginning of a new era in this part of europe, and we will participate in ours. day in our revival and it's very important, not only for us, but for our children and for the generations to come, and it's a really big story, and thank you very, very much to everyone on the front lines, to all the volunteers, to all the men and women who fight for all the medics who save lives, to all the instructors who help save every person's life. to all

communities that continue to work, to all women who take on great leadership responsibilities, restore their communities, you are the ones who support the economy, thank you all, and you fight not only for ukraine, you fight for all of us, for our values, thank you for the defense of ukraine, thank you for the defense of my country, thank you for the defense of europe, thank you for the defense of world values, i know, you know, that many, many countries stand with you today. it absolutely is

fair enough, i want to thank our speakers for a very interesting and important discussion, which demonstrates how strong is the western support, and how strong is the international solidarity with ukraine, we are grateful for this, and we await the practical results of the upcoming nato summit in washington, we practical ones are needed. decision, we need to bring ukraine closer to nato, so that ukraine can enter this safe harbor. and peace reigned in this part of the world. thank you. thank you very much. oh, i remember, you see, although they say that over

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