sure, if that's how it works, not as a deterrent weapon, but as a real functioning weapon, the chinese will never believe that the americans can't do it after the russians, i think that's their main problem, and that's why they, by things, building up their own nuclear capability, because people always think about the intentions of others as they would act in this situation, so the chinese are absolutely sure, that's the crux of the problem, that they can get nuclear weapons in response, everyone else should do it too, because if russia uses this one weapons first, the chinese may encounter a situation when other countries may also use these weapons first, and by the way, it is not only the united states, i also want to remind you about the competition between china and india, india is also actually a nuclear power, so why is china such a mess , i don't know, well... to modern

china, china, which does not want a nuclear war, so i don't think that china will agree to this, it's another matter that i don't believe andrei at all that putin and china agree to something like that , i always advise not to exaggerate the chinese influence on russia, just as i advise not to exaggerate the chinese influence on north korea, china, because without a doubt it has a serious influence on both russia and north korea, and can influence some of theirs. decisions, but he cannot dictate to them, in authoritarian regimes, relations do not work like that, they work from the point of view of mutual benefit, but there can be completely different interests, and it's just in a situation with nuclear weapons, putin can understand that this will have political, economic consequences, not what china tells him does not apply, he may be afraid of the consequences, but if we look at the fact that putin...

lately, as they say, has broken off the chains, we see him making such statements that he would not have made even a year ago, in 2022, even in 2023, we see how much putin is even ready to lower himself to the level of kimchynin, well, vabank actually goes, understanding that the western civilized world... the western conditional, conditional civilized part of our world already chooses full support for ukraine for itself, and not as it was there in 2022 or 2023, but still, given that putin is breaking away from these chains go to abank, nuclear weapons can be used locally, as we say in ukraine, well, i say again, i don’t see yet...

that putin breaks from some chains there, putin is always considering its consequences, and if he knows that i do, that the use of nuclear weapons creates a situation of strategic uncertainty both in relations with the united states and in relations with china, then this is a risky move, uh, besides, no one can say why putin to use nuclear weapons, no matter what, putin has lost such a thing now compared with last year's position that he used nuclear weapons. no, well, in fact, now he acquired for the last there, well minimally, but acquired for the end of the 23rd, if he expects a multi-year war of attrition, then nuclear weapons do not contribute to this multi-year war, they create some completely new level of world escalation with an unforeseen result, you can say that putin is tired of waiting there, but i don't see such great fatigue, on the contrary, he is taking managerial steps there, he appoints an economist as the minister of defense, he goes to dopinyans to...

lack of faith in success, i imagine that he is just tired of waiting so long, it is true, because he hardly thought that it would take so long, but the way out of this situation could be not only the use of nuclear weapons, but also an attempt to stop war, this is a less risky option. and by the way, that is why he puts forward all these schizophrenic conditions, and by the way, the white house once again says that the usa is not conducting any secret negotiations between them and the russian federation, yes, such statements are made because certain politicians and certain the mass media are starting to say that, well, listen, some negotiations are possible and are being conducted, the white house in this way is actually in...

justifying whether such backroom negotiations can be conducted, at least in order to either freeze the war in ukraine or... is there some way to keep it within the framework until the date of the presidential elections in the usa, or is it just talk and no one is conducting any negotiations and is not going to conduct them yet? i can answer very simply: at the level of the administration of the president of the united states, the administration of the president of russia there are no consultations. there are consultations at the level of the special services, i am absolutely sure of that. i can say that i know about some counseling, but that would be a strange statement, wouldn't it? i... i'm just telling you that from the point of view of the very mathematics of the political process in general , there cannot be contacts between the special services of nuclear states, and what these contacts are about, as a rule, about anything, it is the very situation with war and threats , which are

mediated in connection with this war, and the views of the parties on these threats, they may be opposite, but they are important to express is terroristic. the dangers of the united states and russia still remain in many areas where they act together, there is an islamic state, and if you cannot maintain interstate contacts, but recognize that all of these things threaten both of your states, which are in a state of struggle, so why can't you talk to them? the united states talks in the morning, we know about it, they hold closed consultations, how much worse russia is than iran, it's the same thing. oh, but these are not intergovernmental contacts, you see, this is not the kind of contact when even a certain sullivan secretly meets with some, i don't know, ushakov, no, it could be some person at the level of, say,

the former head of the russian special service, maybe the current one, not the fsb, some kind of foreign intelligence service or some other person, ugh the game and she meets either with the former head of the american special services, or with the current one, but not at the highest level, that is, if there is a dialogue at the level of benz naryshkin, it is reported, but there may be dialogues not with a person who is a member of the security council of the russian federation, but which has access to putin's body and is an influential figure in the russian nomenclature. this can be, moreover, it cannot be otherwise. the united states and russia cannot avoid contact at all, but it is not entirely negotiable, i say again, the participants of such meetings, they do not mean that they will agree on something, they exchange positions, and when such an exchange of positions takes place,

the parties may simply eventually reach a point where it becomes clear to them that negotiations or consultations may take place. let's say so, here this is such a closed mechanism, then, if suddenly something like this coincides, a consultation mechanism takes place here at the level of benz naryshkin, if there is some progress at the level of benz naryshkin, then a meeting is possible at the level of salivakov, if there is some exchange more or less at the level of sali vanushakov realistic positions. pits, then a more serious negotiation process begins, but in order for this more serious negotiation process to begin, it is necessary that all these three stages are passed, like a staircase, and if all this is not there in june months, i don't understand where the mechanism is for this

to happen before november, which means that russia is not interested in such a process until november, and that it will continue to delay the process until november. ladder, by the way, about november and about one of the candidates for the post of president of the united states of america, trump has recently again said various things both behind the scenes and publicly, in particular, he said that if biden had spoken directly about the fact that ukraine would not join in nato, was there any similar form, then in this case... it didn't start, yes, that is, again, as they say, for fish, money, the same theses again, also, last week there was a certain backstage conversation of trump with representatives of the republican party, where he also made certain ambiguous statements about

what was unclear to him , where the money goes, why allocate such a large amount of funds to ukraine, and that zelenskyy, every time he comes to... the usa, goes, as they say, with these suitcases, 60 billion dollars, well, that's right, but these statements of trump are another. although he allegedly changed his position recently corrected, as if he had already said that ukraine should be supported anyway, as if his man, mr. johnson, the speaker of the house of representatives, is already directly talking about the fact that there is a need to overcome putin, to overcome russia, ukraine needs to win and so on and so on impression that trump jumps back and forth from one position to another, what kind of statement is this? and whether these statements are really

threatening for ukraine in the context of his becoming the president of the united states of america. listen, donald trump is a chaotic person, well, there's nothing you can do about it. yes yes. and i'm not i believe that he can develop, in general, from the point of view of his psychotype, some real line of perception of the russian-ukrainian conflict. however, i think that when he says that if the country had not been in nato, there would not have been this war, it largely reflects what he wants to say for those who ask him how he should solve this problem. this is his political program, he will promise vladimir putin that ukraine will not be in nato. good recipe. and then putin immediately after... rest in peace, especially since he he wants it himself, huh, but this is another illusion,

because i always try to explain that ukraine's accession to nato was not a reason, but a pretext for russian aggression, well, it's not only trump who speaks, it's various rascals according to aristovych they say that because we entered into the constitution to join nato, russia attacked us, remember, he talked about this in which. there in 22, then he was released when he decided that he should be a popular ukrainian politician, and now that he escaped, and by all accounts, is used by certain forces to spread russian narratives in our information space, he returned to this thesis again, but we must say clearly, once and for all, that russia attacked ukraine not at all because ukraine wanted to become a member of nato, but because.. the possibility of ukraine's accession to nato could prevent russia

from fulfilling its main such main task, the elimination of ukrainian statehood, that is, it is not a question of ukraine's accession to nato threatening russia's national interests, as donald trump says. aristovych, in the fact that ukraine's accession to nato is impossible. the liquidation of ukrainian statehood and the expulsion from ukraine of the majority of those people who are now near these television screens, because if ukraine is in nato, it means that the ukrainian state will exist, and these people who watch us will not be expelled, killed, raped and robbed, which is the great political goal of the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, the armed forces of the russian federation and the god-bearing russian people, this is what they desire, long for, what they need this land, they want here... they need us out of here, and they are willing to pay with the lives of their countrymen in the tens of thousands of lives,

if not hundreds, to accomplish that goal, but if we join nato, then they will have to enter a real nuclear conflict, to pay with millions of lives, maybe tens of millions there, destroyed by moscow and petersburg, which turn into a nuclear wasteland, and they don't want that, they want other cities to turn into a nuclear wasteland, that's all, simple pra'. tical goal, so if someone wants to promise putin that ukraine will not be a member of nato, if they say a, then they need to say b. then they have to admit that ukraine should become not a separate part of the russian federation, close the topic, agree with the concept of limited former soviet republics with the appearance on the political map of the world of the russian federation from uzhhorod to azhkhab. and if... someone is ready to say this to putin and ensure the possibility of such a development of events, then let him

say it frankly, and not worry about himself and us, but it is clear that no one will say this frankly, of course, and that is why it is in general it is impossible, because you cannot trade with other territories and peoples, you can simply lead to the fact that in the post-soviet space, once again, rivers of blood will flow from uzhger to dazhkhab, that here you will be able to wash yourself with blood, headquarters of destruction, wars , conflicts, acts of sabotage against the occupiers on the territory of various former soviet republics, which will be deprived. sovereignty will be of such a level that the russians will also die in droves and simply become a target for destruction, they will simply be killed wherever they are to see where they will put their dirty feet in their boots that are not cleaned, and the people of these countries will not overflow, and it will all be on the conscience of people like donald trump, they will then

not wash their dirty hands from our blood, no posterity will help and mississippi even. but if we come to this, then it is still really possible that during the presidency of a hypothetical donald trump, his administration's policy regarding, well, at least a more concrete, public non-accession of ukraine, will be the time to agree on this with putin, there may be such an attempt, but it will turn out that this is not what putin needs. you can't promise that to a person who uses something as an excuse, you see, it's like a child who wants you to give him candy, actually wants you to buy him a dog, you're not going to buy a dog, you can a box of chocolates to give, a dog in the house, you don't want to have one, and hysteria begins, and trump

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we are coming back and we still have 10 minutes to go discussion of an equally resonant topic that took place in the event that took place this week, the assassination attempt. in fact, a political attempt. on june 18th, an attempt was made on the kazakh opposition politician, journalist, blogger aidos sadikov in kyiv. two people, as the investigation established, shot right in the middle of the kyiv courtyard, yes, in broad daylight. in the middle of the day in a car, they tried to kill mr. sadikov, who, as far as we... know, lives in kyiv, actually, well, he fled, as far as i understand, from his country from political persecution, has a political asylum here in ukraine, and what

is this, what does this indicate, and, er, why do such things as political, political assassinations, political murders of opposition politicians, states return to ukraine again. of the former soviet union, you see, this is a very strange story in itself, because these are two two two people who took part in the assassination attempt on aidos sadikov, i know him well, he was on my broadcasts several times, he is really well-known there or an opposition journalist, eh, and these people, they are citizens of the republic of kazakhstan, one of them was even in law enforcement agencies of kazakhstan, aydost's wife. natalie, who was next to him at the time of this attempt, by the way, is in a very serious condition, we don't even know how it will end, we just hope that he will recover, she said that one of these people is

an employee law enforcement agencies, in kazakhstan they said that he was released in the 19th, it seems or in the 22nd, but you know that these former ones do not happen, they do not happen, one way or another these people have connections both in the authorities and in such, i would say, criminal. the government can count on them for a long time, that is, here question of demonstrativeness, let's imagine that this is a political attempt, in which the same kazakhstani authorities were interested, which declared idost sadikov wanted, but it is strange to send their own citizens to carry out this demonstratively with kazakh passports and with a background of service in special structures. it is strange, people absolutely calmly crossed the border between poland and ukraine, well, you know that this is kazakhstan - a member country of the csto, well, how do people from such a country,

men of conscription age, one former law enforcement officer, calmly come to ukraine and they leave ukraine through the border and through another border like this, that is, it is double here , that is, we have such a strict border. no one can pass, stop in, invitations are needed, even for women with such, conditionally, citizenship of russia or countries that are allied with russia, and here it suddenly turns out that it is absolutely possible, and what does this indicate, well , i don’t know i know that we don't understand something, at least in the activities of our own special services, i don't know what legend these people came with, they had something to say to the border guards. that these them they let them in and let them out, well, it’s not just to say, they should have had documents , they went for tourist purposes, they came, rented an apartment not far from the apartment,

i think they lived there for a few weeks, a month, that’s all, that is, please well, as in a warring country, well, it means that something is wrong here, and if these people, let's say , come with their passports or something else, let's say to carry out an attempt on some ukrainian statesman, what if? moscow will send them, it can send citizens of any former soviet union republic, well, here is also a question, then one of these people ends up in kazakhstan itself and leaves voluntarily, it seems that the law enforcement agency surrendered today, today, well , first of all, where is the second one who shot, as far as i understand, did both of them shoot there, here one shot, i understand that it is not the one who shot, well, i don't know for sure, of course, that's also a good question, why alone? was found, and the second one was not found, secondly, why does this one not run away, let's say from his own law enforcement officers,

when he finds it. child in other countries, and looks directly at the police department itself, well , it’s also somehow very strange, that is, it all looks very, it’s such a typical post-soviet murder, and we talked about it when there was a story about gongadze, when there was a story about sheremet, by the way, when the story of remember, there was a belarusian oppositionist who would have been found to tell the story. it seems to be in shevchenko park, yes, but something was, and, and, there was something like that, and what, what do we know, what happened, that is, that is, it is some other, that is, it turns out that they can act calmly on the territory of our country there are belarusian special services, but it was at least before the war, now during the war, that is, i do not say, and again i do not have any evidence that these are kazakh special services, mrs. sadikova accused of involvement in the assassination of president tokayev, the kazakh presidential administration, said that she is ready to help. well, let them help, if

such accusations are brought against them, the wife of a person on whom an attempt was actually committed, and who criticized the president of kazakhstan and his government, so it seems to me that the president kazakhstan should really be interested from the point of view of its own international reputation, to tell what it really was, or maybe it was a russian provocation, maybe to completely isolate, so to speak,... president tokayev, well, yes, but then the gongadze case should be perceived as a russian provocation, these same people very often go to such provocations themselves, they succumb to them, you understand, because they believe that they can do anything, that is, it is such a thing, i do not argue with you, andriy, that russia can think , that this type of actions, and that is exactly why we need exactly the citizens of kazakhstan, exactly the ethnic kazakhs, so that no one has any doubts, to block kazakhstan

from any way to... maneuver, but we also have to, firstly, make sure of this, and secondly, understand what role the kazakh authorities themselves took in this then, it was not russia that declared aidos sadikov wanted, knowing perfectly well where he is in general, what his status is, the republic of kazakhstan itself did it, you understand, no, well, logically, kazakhstan is unlikely can it be called a standard of democracy, or democracy at all, and not the other way around, you see, in order for something to happen, you yourself have to at least create opportunities, that is, first there was a wanted ad, but somehow it wasn't there for 10 years, so something was said that

pissed off the kazakh authorities. which forced her to act, so to speak, tough, at least from the institutional point of view. this search looks like pressure too, right? this is not murder, of course, but the very announcement of a person wanted for the fact that he actually expresses some positions, opinions on his own internet project there, this is pressure, political character, and we must also speak about it absolutely clearly, and when you create such pretexts. then of course you become, let's say, a model for development by special services, or russian, or by the way, your own, but we have to understand that there are also many different interests and different towers in kazakhstan, a month before the start of a full-scale invasion, that is, when there were various conflicts of various groups, groups of political influence, so i think that

the president of kazakhstan... takayev himself should be interested in the fact that we find out the truth that this happened, especially since one of the suspects is already at the disposal of the general prosecutor's office of the republic of kazakhstan, let it give clear , realistic explanations of what really happened in kyiv, and we wish idos khadykov to recover after this nightmare, unequivocally, thank you, dear viewers, andrii smaliy, thank you vitaliy portnikov for your thoughts and analysis, and keep it up. we stand in line and continue to fight for our country on all fronts. thank you, see you in a week. victory of peace, friends