it was amazing and i really enjoyed how we went out to restaurants. i visited the cities of saszburg, vienna, and linz. this trip had a positive effect on me, i became more cheerful. thank you so much for such an incredible trip, it will never be forgotten in my heart. let's together give memories that will warm hearts and help to survive these difficult and scary moments. we return as promised, thank our colleagues for their work, report on what is happening, in particular in kharkiv, where russian terrorists repeated exactly what was done the day before, i.e. guided air bombs flew into a residential building, we already have confirmed information about one dead and five injured, and one more... an aerial bomb, another charge

hit a children's educational institution, there are three more injured , this is the information at the moment, and actually the information that the attack was on a private homeowner, the garage, an outbuilding was set on fire, and this is all official information from the kharkiv regional military administration, we understand that it has just appeared that the number of victims has increased, unfortunately to eight. yes, well, in the meantime, let's talk about some other problems that arose, maybe on a level place, maybe not on a completely level one, we are talking about whether these problems can be quickly solved and how serious they are, we are talking about problems that arose on the line for citizens, along the ukraine-israel line, in particular, since 2010, he actually works without visas between our states, and what happened, we will ask anna zharova, she is in contact with our studio, mrs. annovi. welcome, kind

day, and i heard the news about kharkiv and i offer my condolences to the families, it is terrible. thank you, that's actually how it happens every day. what was the reason that we suddenly had a problem when israel said for all visa-free countries that the electronic travel authorization service would be introduced. this is for those who left. to israel for 90 days, this is actually the return of the same control, which does not involve a visa-free regime. in response, we know that the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine said that they will be forced to act proactively, similarly, that is, in fact, the visa regime is returned again. what caused this? yes, well, to be honest, it is necessary to share what happened last year, because there was... a precedent, and even here in israel

, citizens who came from ukraine were frightened, wrote, reacted, and, let's say, then that the conflict could be stopped, but now the situation is completely different, it is not aimed at any one country, this decision was made by the government and administration from the people of the population and immigration. and israel simply joins those countries that already, in which already has this electronic authorization, yes, electronic authorization, countries such as the united states of america, such as australia, canada, today, for example, citizens of israel who have, also visa-free regime with these countries that i talked about, well separately, separately australia, have, say. let's say so,

to make this authorization, yes, before they leave the country and get, get a permit. israel, moreover, he said that and also the european union, israel tried together with the european union, it was in the plans to introduce this electronic permit, but the european union postponed it until next year, and israel decided not to wait, we need to understand how it is, let's say this , first of all, the reasons, yes, why israel is doing this, and once again i emphasize that it is not aimed at against citizens of one country. now israel is in a pilot, there since june 1, israel launched such a program for citizens of the united states and germany, these are the two countries that agreed to start this pilot, from july 1 it was.

it will already be a reality for all countries and from the 1st, not one and only one, even a person who wants come even on some work visas. they have to make this authorization, once again there are several reasons for this decision, and they are, first of all, related to the security situation in the country and the fact that we have a war, and if you follow the news, there are many in the world, let's put it this way, among the people who organize protests against israel, there are different activists. there are people who, let's say, are not a danger to the country, and this is the first group of people, the other group of people, when you, for example, do this authorization, you need to prove that you have there is no criminal history, and this

is also, let’s say so, what is being checked, and thirdly, and it is important to say that one of the reasons could really also be... migration, not even emigration, but let’s say it, people , who come to israel and stay here, in israel there is now a war with, let's say, this also causes a lot of problems, so they decided to introduce this system that already exists in other countries, and and, let's say, this permit is issued for two years , yes, if you get it and the first year is... this theme will be free, everyone can get this permission, but here we have, let's say, this administration, which is responsible for the implementation, you can say so, of this system, and the reaction

of the government, so that, well, we need to change it, even so, even on departure , yes, so that people can know in advance whether they have a permit or not, because at the border here, once again, let's say, there is no coordination, maybe even between the systems, and let's say, those who work for borders, can make decisions, for security reasons another level of control is introduced, i understand that this is rather a requirement massadians, than the border guards, to check those who actually enter the belligerent israel, in this case, i wanted to ask you, you are talking about the actions, about the fact that there is a sufficiently large number of people who commit provocations regarding the security of the state of israel ,

right at that moment a group was walking around the center of warsaw shouting about palestine and the gas sector, the police. closely followed them, we are monitoring this whole situation, but is it obvious to you, for example, why israel after the terrible terrorist attack that was committed in this black saturday, will suddenly lose the information war on a global scale, i.e. in america and europe? well, this is a very important issue, and i must say that here in the country at all forums and in television studios and at conferences. are asked to understand and answer this question, there are also two reasons for it, perhaps, so to speak, it is possible to outline, firstly, israel really did not engage, let's say, at the highest level, and did not invest and did not invest, let's say

yes, to fight the propaganda that has been around all these years, but maybe it wasn't like that, tangible, yes and... and that is why we even have a ministry of the diaspora, which is responsible for relations with the diaspora in the world, but all this was aimed at development, at supporting various projects, so that people, jews, would come to israel, but it was never aimed at countering the propaganda that was always against israel, and now they are trying to change that, many non-profit organizations that... hey citizens who are taking their own initiatives, maybe it's somehow really very similar to 2014 the year it started maidan and when the civil society really started to react and make unrealistic cool

projects to advocate for ukraine, to look for partners abroad, and now israel is doing, trying to do. the same, but another reason, yes, we know how propaganda works, the russians there for 40 years told that ukrainians were nazis, told stories about az. and we see that it is very difficult to change these narratives, and if we are talking about investing in propaganda, iran and russia , russia is also now institutions in israel that do studies, where they already see, say, china's participation in the fact that they send a lot of money to rock the boat, as in inside the country and there are already

studies about it, let's say, as well as abroad. ma'am, we have literally one minute left, if ukraine implements a mirror response and also restricts the entry of israeli citizens, are israeli citizens ready, especially pilgrims who come to ukraine every september, for this, will the system be adjusted to notify in advance and receive these. look, i think that it is ukraine's decision how to react to this, but it is important to emphasize once again that this system, it is not against the citizens of ukraine, this israel joins those countries in which this is already clear, and this does not mean a visa , but this means that all checks that are carried out at the border, when a person arrives and is questioned, he is checked there, these, let's say, minimal means and measures will be carried out even in the electronic double level of control, but i

think that ukraine can also introduce it, that's how it looks from our statements, so far we do not see further development, the last minute, literally we are also looking at the fact that the option looks very sharp now, the lebanese hezbollah, a state within a state, threatens war with israel, threatens strikes on cyprus, if cyprus will... help, the usa says that ready to stand shoulder to shoulder, in a word, is another war coming? we in israel are all preparing for this, we really don't know when, but all the experts too, they say that this is not temporary, we will not be able to, there are no diplomatic levers to negotiate with hezbollah, on the other hand, in us on from the north, on the border in the north. it's just that there are cities that are 50-70% completely

destroyed, and this is really a threat to this region, of course, that is, the probability of this still military conflict is very high, ms. anna, thank you for being with the espresso viewers, anna zharova, civil activist and co-founder of non-governmental organization israeli friends of ukraine. with this, we say goodbye to you, take care of yourself, peaceful, safe to you. evening and stays with espresso. warning. total sale. kors garden trimmers under unpack tv with a discount of only uah 799. only 799 for a reliable tool, high power, ease of use. very profitable, minimum effort. for maximum results, order while the video is being broadcast. trimmers are light and very powerful. mow the lawn near

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we talk about sociology, we talk about the growth of society and what people think now. our people, our citizens, ukrainians, regarding completely different events and actually different directions of development of our country. we are also talking about ukraine, including the capital of our country, kyiv. anton hrushetskyi, executive director, is in our studio today kyiv international institute of sociology. mr. anton, we are glad to welcome you. good day. ah, it's a difficult time right now. and of course, all this affects sociology, it all affects the way sociological surveys are carried out, how much they change, well, in general, the growth of society, during the actual great war, how much such a concept as sociological surveys has changed, how much

it's actually become more difficult to interview people and understand... this segment of society, you know, you're raising an important issue because and since the beginning of the large-scale invasion , ukraine has shown ukrainian citizens fairly good indicators on various issues, this is a certain cohesion, national identity, readiness for opera, but one of the lines of discrediting ukraine by our enemies is an attempt to show that our polls are complex and not representative . you are right that the survey is much more difficult now, a large part of the territories is occupied, there are certain issues of people's safety, many people have left. but at the same time, after the beginning of the invasion, we conducted various experiments that show that it is now possible to conduct polls in ukraine and obtain high-quality results that truly represent the opinion of the population of ukrainians living in the territories under the control of the government of ukraine. we also conduct telephone surveys, we conduct surveys by the method of personal interviews. we see that people are answering sincerely, and by the way, even one of our latest polls, which shows that

honestly 5% of citizens share a pro-russian view of the war, once again shows that even such a margin. extremist thoughts are not people are afraid to speak up, so survey data is useful and important to show because it's definitely more representative data than your facebook or twitter bubble. but, for example, do you survey people who are abroad, as far as i read just yesterday, the information that one of your last surveys you also conducted among those people who are displaced persons abroad, who are on. .. on the territory of the european union, it is, yes, exactly like that, in fact, to conduct a survey among them citizens of ukraine is possible, but quite difficult, so now most polls are conducted only in territories under the control of the government of ukraine. on certain topics, we do conduct surveys of ukrainian refugees abroad, but they are more complex, and therefore it is usually not such a clean experience, but it is quite illustrative, like this survey

that you mentioned, which shows that in fact many ukrainian citizens, on unfortunately, takes root in another society where they are now, and ukraine has a high risk of losing a large number of citizens, and this will further deepen our demographic problems. and, for example, the survey conducted in kyiv, the capital of our country, is different. and, for example, somewhere, conditionally, in other cities, or in principle, conditionally speaking, people think the same way, and the method is applied similarly. the methodology is basically the same, that is, it is either a telephone interview, and it is a relevant resident of kyiv, lviv, odesa, kharkiv , and kherson, who answers the questions of the questionnaire over the phone. if it is a personal interview, according to you, you are with the interviewer you talk in person, they also answer you. of course, different cities have their own specifics, because in the pref. in these cities, the security issue is much more acute than in rear cities or such as kyiv, but on the other hand , we are now observing the unity of different regions, and in fact, after

a large-scale invasion, we see a decrease in regional differences more than ever, and a conditional resident of kyiv in his social - political views become much closer to lviv, kharkiv, odessa and kherson. and you just remembered, or we did about the survey of people who are abroad, that is, people who... unfortunately, were forced to leave our country, whether their views differ from those of people who did not leave, who live permanently in the territory, relatively speaking, of our country, you know, we get the impression, so far, both our polls and other polls, that there is no strong difference, that is, it is our citizens who have similar views to those who remain in ukraine, but the main difference is that a significant part residents abroad really takes root in new ones places, and they become part of the new society. and we saw such an alarming trend that a third of them even answered that they do not follow news from ukraine, that is, they definitely receive some news about ukraine, but it is not the immersion

in everyday life that we have, they have children, they grow up, go to a new school, there is a different system of education, medicine, and so on, ukraine for them is conditional as such an international context, and accordingly they answer many questions, but this feeling is more superficial, unfortunately, and not that how many people do you and i have here , maybe you conducted it like this... the polls are still going to return to ukraine, how many people have already taken root, as you absolutely rightly said, how many people are hesitating, so you have approximately data? we have now conducted a survey in the czech republic, poland, and germany, and we can say that about half of the people are those who are still considering the option of returning to ukraine, that is, there are about half who would rather follow such an intensive path of rooting, about half are those who maintain closer ties with ukraine, are ready to return, understand that immediately after going abroad, about 20% of citizens are actually those who will not return, we must be honest, many ukrainians wanted to go abroad, and this is

an invasion, it created certain conditions, the other part lost everything in ukraine, they could leave the occupation, they could lose loved ones and relatives, and therefore, accordingly , there is nowhere to return. many people want to return, but the main question is the war, the duration of the war and what conditions they are in will return, because the main condition for returning is a sense of security. you and i understand that when you live... in kyiv, you get used to the current conditions and it seems to you that conditional life in kyiv is safe, but for a person who has lived all this time, conditionally in poland or germany, even the current one the situation in kyiv is not so safe, and the criteria for safety, the bar is very high, is quite high. if we mentioned, again in this block about displaced persons, to what extent these people fall under russian propaganda for border, perhaps such data emerges from something, from which... here are your surveys and you could also analyze them here? you know, my personal observation, according to our data, according to the data of my colleagues, is that they are not so receptive to russian propaganda, they

definitely, of course, distance themselves from ukraine in their issues, but they also do not become conditionally pro-russian ukrainians. there is one problem that on tiktok, on twitter, on facebook we can see vivid videos with some ukrainian citizens who may behave inappropriately way, but it should be understood that these are not representative examples. we have a big problem now that many people tend to draw conclusions about public opinion from comments on twitter, for example, or on facebook, but we as sociologists will say that often these comments are generated either by such an aggressive minority or by bots, and they are not representative, our polls show that the majority of ukrainians are much more moderate, ukrainian citizens abroad are also not pro-russian or anti-ukrainian, many of them from domestic reasons are integrated, but there are also many loyal ukrainians who continue with... from ukraine and help ukraine as best they can. another very interesting poll, which was recently conducted by the kyiv international institute of sociology, concerns the fifth anniversary

of the term of office of volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine. so, mr. anton, here are some general trends, some conclusions, maybe you can draw, regarding this thorough survey that you conducted, regarding zelenskyi’s presidency itself, regarding people's disappointments, or vice versa, support, regarding the fulfillment of promises or, on the contrary , non-fulfillment, are there any general conclusions, general? trends already over these five years, according to your sociological surveys, you know, we conducted the survey right in the middle of may at the end of zelenskyi's five-year presidency, i want to point out right away that according to our surveys, despite the different attitudes towards the president, the absolute majority of ukrainians, from 70 to 80%, claim that he remains the legitimate head of state and are against holding elections right now, that is, once again, we can criticize the president, we can disagree with something, but ukrainians believe that

the number one priority... is victory in the war and then holding elections, but the important question is really how people evaluate "tenth year of the presidency of volodymyr zelenskyi, and you know, here the question is whether the glass is half full or half empty, it's how anyone will look, in fact there is a real decrease in trust in the president, in the 19th year he was trusted by almost 90%, now it is close 60%, especially there was a decrease in the last six months, but 60% is the majority of the population, the majority of ukrainians still trust the president, but the majority of ukrainians absolutely claim that he is not you. fulfilled his promises, at the same time, when we asked why he did not fulfill his promises, a minority of ukrainians blame the president himself, say, for inexperience or corruption, mainly put the responsibility on his entourage, but there is a certain tendency that currently the situation for the president is quite good from the point of view public sentiments, the majority of ukrainians still trust him, but there is a downward trend and it requires especially certain personnel decisions, because people are still throwing spears in the direction of his entourage, saying that this entourage

is not working enough. but the time will come when there will be a transfer of negativity from the environment of the president himself there. and there is some connection between the fact that in our country there is a legal regime of martial law. and actually, this support or not support or demands for the presidential vertical. that is, it is possible to connect what we are now we have martial law and the data you are talking about. let's say if there was no martial law, then... in your opinion, there would be similar data, or would the demands still have increased to the presidential vertical? well , you know, before the beginning of the large-scale invasion in february 22, the president was trusted by a little more than 30% of citizens, and the majority did not, that is, a significant increase in trust took place precisely against the background of the large-scale invasion and he was perceived as a real wartime leader, people were fascinated by him courage, and in principle now they say that he really works enough both on the international stage, as a representative of ukraine

and to strengthen the ukrainian coalition. in the west, but as soon as the war ended, and if we had a time of peace, then of course the agenda would change, and accordingly people's demands would increase and become much more strict, now people can, for example, tolerate certain cases of corruption, certain cases incompetence, explaining it by the fact that it is not worth rocking the boats, we published results where the majority of ukrainians for criticism of the government, of course, but they believe that it should be within a constructive framework, so as not to destabilize the situation in the country, if there will be a peaceful time, then accordingly there will be harsher criticism. greater demands, especially in the socio-economic sphere and in the sphere of transparency and the fight against corruption and democracy. so you have already touched on the question of what can be criticized and what can not be criticized? in more detail, there were some questions that you asked, very, linguistically speaking, detailed, very linguistically speaking, those that concern narrow areas, where, however, it is still possible to criticize the government, where it is still

possible to tell the government about... some mistakes and where it is not possible, we did not conduct special surveys, but contextually we see from our various studies communication with people, here the question is rather whether such criticism destabilizes the situation and undermines the defense capability of the country, does it contribute to the solution of the problem, because if you find an issue related to corruption in the ministry of defense or there in the ministry of education or another ministry, but which can be removed and improved defense capability, people support it, but if it is a criticism of a conventional woman and a hawk, which will simply destroy... and tell that the president, for example, is illegitimate, that our government is problematic, that the verkhovna rada should be dissolved, people will accept it as, you know, an attack on the defense capability of the country and they will oppose it, even the issue of the law on mobilization is quite specific in our country, on the one hand, many people are worried, and this spills into tsiktok videos, comments, complaints and so on, but in fact according to surveys, the majority of ukrainians are understanding and agree that the mobilization should be carried out, they demand possible support.