of fire, well, we remember from the minsk agreements how it happened, initially large calibers were prohibited there and so on, and if we look at putin's quote in this context of this freezing plan, which is actually offered to china today, then we understand its real power, it consists in the fact that this negotiation process... well, to put it simply, the negotiations, the stakes of which are membership in nato, sanctions, well, actually, these are the two main lots that are being played out there, the lifting of sanctions, what interests russia and membership in nato, what is of interest to ukraine, but perhaps to a lesser extent, is of interest to nato. everything else is what is called optional, as it sounds harmless and uncynical to us, even the territorial issue of ukraine. in this

case, it is not of principle for those parties, the west and the east, who agree, that is, putin in this case simply broadcasts this peaceful, relatively speaking, xi jinping’s plan in quotation marks and sets his price, well, so to speak, like an ordinary gopnik with st. petersburg's doorstep, setting a very high maximum price he can imagine. come out here, the question here is another question, mr. oleg, well, actually, he also commented, i will ask putin and sizenpin to comment on the statement, but he puts this price on what is happening on the front line, as of now, we understand that a lot will be determined by november, when presidential elections will be held in the usa, we understand that a lot will also depend on their results, and i am leading to the question of whether the situation can change when this very...

too high price of putin will be reduced by him, because i will simply remind our to the audience, what's yours time, putin said, well, at least in, as they say, putin has said, and his mustache, sand, it is meant that there is no one to talk to in ukraine, because ukraine has an illegitimate government, the term of office of the president has expired, and who do you talk to there, and then they said no, no, no, there is someone to talk to, zelensky, it is written there in the constitution, that is, they somehow very quickly understood that there is someone to talk to, it can happen over time after certain events at the front. and other insights, and putin's price will drop, and his ambitions will decrease, whatever please, it is clear that time has a very serious effect on where the framework is moving, russia is taking the lead, putin is trying to issue ultimatums, ukraine is taking the lead in the emerging space in order to tighten the yoke around the putin regime. i would like to pay attention to sidzimpin's statement for one more moment, and... i completely agree with everything else

, these are elements of the statement about european security. in fact, behind the freezing of the russian-ukrainian war, china still sees another moment and an opportunity within it to become a co-shareholder in european security, as the guarantor of the fact that the russian-ukrainian war remains frozen, as the one who restrains putin and russia in a muzzle, and accordingly so... in this way, to enter as a guarantor of security, as one of the elements of the structure of european security from russia for european states. dzimpin's visits to paris, serbia and hungary were dedicated to this. in terms of economy and security. with hungary, it is an element of pressure already on nato, so that now hungary can play not only in the interests of moscow, but also in the interests of china. in the case of,

if nato expands its influence on the indo-pacific region, becomes more actively involved there, what the united states wants to do, interaction with japan, and korea, south, etc., then in this way china will enter the european space , blocking transatlantic initiatives from the middle of a nato due to the factor of european states, the risks that will be created there will be converted into european ones and vice versa, if the chinese role grows in... europe in ensuring security, then it will convert it into a violation of the transatlantic unity, in order for europe to maintain independence and separateness from american policy in the pacific region and the indo-pacific. therefore, the chinese interest is here, it is not only to play its role in the russian-ukrainian war, but also to convert its political influence. but the question is that all this is earned and all these interests are promoted and... issues are solved at our expense,

we have no more people, unfortunately, people die, the infrastructure is destroyed, we lose finances, even, well, in general, the prospect it... uh, it becomes so unclear, i mean the perspective of the development of ukraine, ukraine will be, of course, but again, many things become unclear, regarding the return of ukrainians home. the question is when it is possible to sit down to talk, when it can happen, and whether it is really, if, for example, hypothetically speaking, donald trump wins in the united states of america and says, yes, that's it, let's sit down, because there is no time, we will not talk , and whether it will be accepted in ukraine, in a country that, in our country, has put tens. thousands, here you can to say that hundreds of thousands of people died in this great war, please, sir, for you to clarify, and then actually mr. maxim can answer, please, well, here part of the answer already lies in this very claim of china, reverse, positive, let’s say , or

the other side of this is that the conversation now about the freezing of the russian-ukrainian war is actually a conversation about a precedent that will affect the overall european security, therefore... not only ukraine, but also a significant part of european states will not agree to such under any circumstances scenario, and they definitely will not agree, some of them do not allow china to have their own action, let alone a critical action in ensuring european security, therefore , where there is a problem, there is an answer to this question right next to it. the second part is related to trump, let's say, and the fact that he will really try to approach the projectile, it is obvious, and will try quickly by the simple method. solutions to solve the russian-ukrainian war, but it will not succeed, the scale of the war is different, the intensity of the war is different, shoulder, in particular, in those mechanisms that are proposed, well, for example, trump's idea was to stop the war in 24 hours, saying that ukraine will have no weapons, and if russia does not negotiate, then ukraine will get everything it

needs to defeat russia. well, the first point, we lived for six months without american help, and ukraine did not come the next day and say: "okay, we surrender." six months, that is, trump has no way to quickly force ukraine to do something with the help of american aid, at least this has already been demonstrated. second point, european countries do not like it will agree, and this will break transatlantic unity, and on the contrary, the level of determination in europe will increase, not quantitatively, but qualitatively. and the third important point, okay, this is a working scheme in case one of the parties wants to sit down for negotiations, and the other party does not want to force it. and let's imagine the situation, neither russia nor ukraine. to sit down at the negotiating table, to whom to send and to whom not to send weapons, all the logical clinch of this formula, that is why they are terrible, simple solutions, they only look good and easy, in fact they are extremely difficult to implement, they show their reverse side very quickly,

all their dangerousness, simple solutions, and i will start with mr. maksym, if you want, mr. maksym, you can add here that all this is being solved at the expense of ukraine, and while they are thinking how to freeze it. to freeze that where, where, some contacts, now lloyd austin and this belarussian have contacted again, and the minister of defense of russia for the first time in a year and a half, but we are losing every day, the question is that we are losing every day, and ukrainian people will certainly not agree to give something, well, but again, but regarding, regarding how simple solutions and, well, this is a phrase, it is associated with representatives of the current government, who proposed simple solutions in many. and of course, the story about teachers’ salaries of 400 dollars became legendary, that it was supposed to be only 200 million, and then it turned out that it was much more, the column wrongly praised, but here the question is not that trust in president zelensky began to decrease, it is not i made it up, these are the data

of the razumkov center, which, by the way, cannot be suspected of working there against the office of the president or in some opposition activity or on someone, this is a fairly weighty job, rather with... unknown and already with a certain long history of groups, the sociological socialist group rozumkov center and which has been working for quite a long time in ukraine and now trust has collapsed by 13% president zelenskyi has 90% trust in the army, the parliament of the sbu is different, but here it is important whether people really want and what they want, we all understand that we will not have elections, but trust is falling, is it possible that the approaches of the authorities should be changed now? and how to change what to do is a more difficult decision come up with, or show, or arrange a public, public such and such, there is such a good word, but you can't say it on the air, the punishment of mykola tyshchenko, mr. maksym, well, by the way, i would start

with what my colleague, mr. oleg sahakyan, concluded that ukrainians will not agree to... simple solutions for concessions, any. you know, over the past six months, the mood in society has changed a lot, i... uh , i can't operate with large databases of sociological surveys, but even that, so to speak, the reactions to the tsk raids, t-shirts with the inscription uhylyant and so on, all this is impossible to imagine, so to speak, in the first year of the war, in the second year of the war and so on, now it becomes possible, now society, as we say today, here... this word agrees, and i would consider this decrease in trust in

zelenskyi or in the presidential institute, er, well, as far as i understand, the poll still says personally, as a symptom of this, er, change in the mood of society, the loss of such, i would call it mobilization, but such a word is used a lot in different contexts, in different... meaning of this one mobilization, we are gradually losing this mobilization for various reasons, for natural reasons, well, because the war has been going on, as you say, ukrainians are dying, and the country is really declining and is losing not only light and electricity, but also people who are not only dying, who are leaving and so on, and in this context, what to do, a political decision? i don't see a political solution in this situation, well, i mean ideas about

some kind of coalition government there or something else, a very simple example, if this loss of trust in zelenskyi would be converted into growth trust in other politicians, one could say that this is a normal way and it is a way out of the situation, at this stage it is about loss. trust in state institutions, and without, so to speak, filling these state institutions with trust, with precedents that give grounds for this trust, nothing will happen, i hear, do you want to ask something? no, no, no, i'm just going to listen to mr. oleg on this matter, and then we'll listen to president zelenskyi, who came to donetsk region and made arrangements there again, well, it's not revealing, because... i understand very well, after seeing what is happening in donetsk region, the president understands that some officials were supposed to be there and

solve many problems, which, by the way, we talk about every day, which include different regions, and listen to what there problems, and very often these problems are not solved, but regarding simple solutions and the decline, i won’t say that the decline is catastrophic, but the decline in trust in the president, fatigue, disappointment, expectations that have not been fulfilled, or they just somehow already see people who may not be able to do this... they are something and that's yours opinion, i think that everything you listed is relevant to certain groups of the population, and moreover, some will have these opinions, i would move away from purely, and what people say about that, and why exactly we in in such a situation, you know, politicians and diapers have a lot in common, in particular, the fact that they need to be changed periodically, and elections are not invented to simply change surnames, this is one of only derivatives. moments, elections are needed so that there is a constant over-crediting of authorities in trust, because in

it is very important for a republic, any democratic one, that the government be not only legal, i.e. according to the law, but also legitimate, and we currently have no way to ensure this through the electoral process , because elections are actually like a heart that pumps blood with a certain rhythm and renews it. accordingly, we need to take a step back, move from modern diapers to diapers and remember what are the restorative mechanisms, and we need to provide now additional mechanisms in an extra-electoral way for in order to ensure recrediting by the trust of the authorities, this is also the deconcentration of certain powers below, where there is capacity for this, because the concentration of a whole range of powers has taken place in the center, but the capacities are left... non-state in the business sector, non-governmental, volunteer, others,

actually, self-governing. secondly, it is necessary to provide mechanisms for the redistribution of responsibilities, it is necessary to carry out reinstitutionalization, to return part of the powers to the institutions that should deal with them, because otherwise all spears will fly towards the president, the president's office, because it is clear that hypercentralization, it also has a reverse side, all responsibility goes there, and it must be distributed, thus mortized. and thirdly, it is necessary to create a series of initiatives that would now provide new opportunities, new horizons for the actual development of the state in the conditions of war. we have to accept the reality that it is impossible to run this war in sprint mode, a lot has been said about this, but nevertheless, mobilization, and energy, and the political process, and all other processes by which we see now there are crises, they are carried out in the sprint mode, also quite often unprofessional, unprofessional, etc., and accordingly we need to allocate resources and look for models that would

ensure the renewability of our resources, otherwise we will simply run out. this applies not only to the process of ensuring trust in the authorities, but also more broadly to all business processes. now, as mr. smart said, under the mobilization of society, we lost it, because the war is somewhere there, society is somewhere here, politicians are somewhere separately, now even the ministry of defense they say that the mobilization processes have improved, but again, this is the expected result of the law on mobilization, but it will be short-lived, it is clear, it does not happen like this for long, it is extensive. it's to be expected, thank god that, that's to be expected, not worse than it was, but you know, just like an airplane when it takes off from the ground, it turns on the afterburner, but it doesn't fly on the afterburner all the time, it then turns it off and already flies in a different mode, this is also with regard to the mobilization of the economy, with regard to economic reservation, with regard to the fight against corruption and investment attractiveness, well

, we really have to live in a different regime, i am just a short example here, we were once in bed and there they said to save money... to waste water, and this is in egypt, i wanted to drink, it was the first time i got like that, there + 52 was my way, and i drank it, then, when i returned to the place where we were, all my lips were bleeding, because they were cracked, and i left, for some reason i thought that the water would somehow be enough, and her very quickly there was not enough, just like here, you know, you can drink all the water, and then you have to to somehow continue to live, this is where understanding is needed, but for now, for now, the president, well, i don’t know there, obviously, too... some plans are being worked out, but the president correctly, in my opinion, points out, points out to certain government officials their shortcomings, the head of state was in donetsk region, let's listen to what he said, and there will be a separate conversation in kyiv, in particular with government officials who should be here and in other places near the front, in difficult communities

where people need immediate solutions, solutions. which simply cannot be seen from kyiv, and there was i am surprised that some prominent government officials have not been here for six months or more, there will be a serious conversation and i will draw appropriate conclusions about them, well, the reaction, by the way, i do not comment on whether it is correct or not, we saw about general sodul, and again anyway, i don’t comment in any way, i don’t know, but quick conclusions were drawn, a replacement was made, regarding government officials, this is the president’s statement from... the point of view, i understand that he obviously understands what he is talking about and saw, and why does he say that, mr. maxim, these are not simple decisions, this is it some solutions are necessary, but i would say that there is such a logic and more emotional, to the credit

of our current president, we can say that he is still mobilized. does not lose, so to speak, his reactions are still sharp and reactive, so to speak , at least, and when he sees that people are already settling down around him, well, in such a calmer mode, i will say so mildly, then eh, well here are such emotional sharp reactions, i think that on the one hand it is natural, and on the other hand it is clearly not enough, because such ... and reactions, i will say again, they are not adjust the system, they do not create trends, they do not create this or that over-crediting of trust, which can occur due to elections, of course, but in such more routine and normal, or how to say,

everyday conditions, such over-crediting is simply possible. good, correct, personnel decisions, not to mention legislative decisions, but we have more difficulty with that, because even the same law on mobilization, which we so fleetingly praised today, that it accelerated mobilization, but in terms of, you know, the creation of such system and its transparency and justice, there are a lot of questions about it, so with this kind of regulation at the institutional... at the regulatory level, it is always difficult for us, and it is probably difficult to fix, especially in conditions of war, but good personnel decisions are a good decision , forgive me for such tautology. in any conditions, especially in war conditions. mr. olezh, there are emotions, the mobilization of the president, here people are writing in the chat rooms,

saying that we should not listen to zelenskyi, maybe, but we cannot not listen, he is the president of the state, the supreme commander, we we listen to the person who makes the decision, and if, say, the military appealed about the general soder is talking about, a decision was made, whether it was right or wrong, i don’t know, but it was made by the person we are listening to, president zelenskyi . i can't fire a general, relatively speaking, i can't fire some official, or say about it, he can, so we listen, but already, as it were, i don't want to say, sorry, this is just objective life, we listen to the people who make the decisions, and this is important, sir, in relation to these to what extent can the analysis of the flights and the work of the president here in kyiv be after his statement on donetsk region, because it seems to me that donetsk region is just an excuse, i think that the president has many questions on various, on various... aspects, and this is just an excuse to say , what will i talk about, i don't want an association with yanukovych here, come to me, i'll tell you later, but still, it seems to me that he wants

to talk much more broadly, and he has much more problems, he sees than that , what he said about donetsk region. i immediately then three topics in fact i will take it in parallel, but we will have three minutes, one minute per topic. very briefly. the first is about whether you should listen or not. you can get rid of these problems and live. in your capsule is comfortable and listen only to those who tell you what you like, watch only those whom you like, and in the end, when you go outside, you are horrified, because it turns out that you live in a completely alternative reality, in no way you don't cross it, but it affects you, but you no longer affect it. the second moment, with about the mobilization and the fact that we praised it, the situational results, yes, it gave a certain acceleration, but it is like the old one. cars, where the engine is no longer working efficiently, try to bore it, pour high-octane fuel into it, and accordingly, in a short distance, we will really

squeeze out of it the speed that it could never even imagine in its life that it can produce, but then quickly everything will fail, now it is happening in an extensive way, and thus we are burning the strategic reserve now with a low efficiency ratio, due to the fact that this system is not a product of the 21st century, neither in terms of its principles nor... in terms of its organization, it is a product of the 20th century even in its soviet forms, in which it was inherent in ukraine, well, not everything it is connected with the soviet union, but in our country, unfortunately, the birth trauma of the soviets is often manifested here as well. regarding personnel changes, i think that first of all the president talked to people, we have regional coordinators of the platform nations in 12 regions, and just the other day i had a meeting with them again, when you talk to people who here they tell... specifically, that it is on the ground, believe me, and such emotions do not appear, so i roughly imagine what president zelensky could have heard from the steps of ukraine regarding the profile reintegration policy and

information policy, and security policy, many aspects and problems that people actually face every day from the energy sector, starting and ending with humanitarian issues, and accordingly, i think that such an emotional reaction is due to the fact that he saw it firsthand, and there are only a few government officials here at once, but the problem in the fact that... there is no reserve bench, and therefore personnel decisions can be made, but then temporary acting responsibilities appear, because no one wants to go to those positions in the conditions that have developed today and about objectively and subjectively, therefore, unfortunately, the solution can only be systemic, personnel rotations in this case will not help, because it is more problematic, but in any case, war is the time of strong people who have to make strong decisions and take on own responsibility, thank you very much, oleg, oleg seakyaan and... a political scientist were with us, co-founder of the national platform of stability and cohesion, maksym rozumny, political expert, doctor of political sciences. thank you, i wish you a quiet evening, this is the end, let's summarize the results of the survey, we

asked today whether you have alternative sources of electricity for your home, well, as before, 13% do, 87% do not, the national team of ukraine is leaving euro 2024, and actually fatal defeat, unpreparedness, defeat, i don't know what i played against romania. brutal role in this story, ukraine leaves the tournament with four points, where they remain countries that scored only three points, such is the irony of fate, but as they say, they are to blame. thank you for being with us, it was vasyl zima, the verdyk program, see you tomorrow, take care, all the best.

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