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the child arrived at the beginning of a full-scale war, and this is 14-year-old vitaly gorbunov. information about the child's disappearance was also received on the first day of the war. the boy was last seen in the city of kakhovka, where he lived. vitaly has dark blond hair and brown eyes. if suddenly someone has information about the possible whereabouts of andrii dmytro or vitaly, is it possible that they just saw these guys somewhere? let us know right away. even a small one. the news can become very important. the magnolia children's tracing service can be called at any time of the day for a short time number 11630. calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free. if suddenly you are in the temporarily occupied territory and cannot call, write to the chatbot of the child search service in telegram, or look for us on facebook. i told you about... just three
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children who disappeared due to a full-scale russian invasion. in general, since the beginning of the war , we have already received several thousand appeals for help in the search. of course, the vast majority of children were found and now everything is fine with them, but, unfortunately, the fate of many is still remains unknown, and everyone can help find them. believe me, just a minute of your time can be decisive. go to the website of the magnolia children's search service in the missing children of ukraine section. here you can view all the photos of the missing, maybe you will recognize someone and eventually help to find them. at the same time , children are also disappearing in territories controlled by ukraine. as the experience of the magnolia children's search service shows, the vast majority of them are teenagers. we discussed this topic with a psychologist and gathered a lot of advice for parents who can prevent a child from suddenly running away from home. one of them is the importance of involving children in the solution.
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involve the child in the development of the family budget, in solving some problematic issues, because sometimes we make some decisions, and these decisions are difficult, difficult, we ourselves are very worried and worried about it, and the child is only informed about the result, and he perceives it as personal offense, well, for example, the child was expecting a new phone, but due to some family events, we do not have money for it, and instead, to explain, to be together. decision made, how and what we can save, and when we can still save up money for that new phone, we just bring her this idea that there will be no phone, how then we are perceived, well, as an enemy who just wants to destroy the whole peaceful life of the child, to break all the dreams and so on, and if she knew the whole process, and if she participated in the discussion, and if her voice was important and she could say that let's save a little here, here i am ready
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give up something, for the sake of it, she would she felt complicity in the family budget, in planning, she felt that she was important, and what could be better in life than feeling important? we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against a child. in any place, at any time. just go to the site and report. we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopcrime ua. there are discounts representing the only discounts on exoderil 15% in pharmacies plantain to you and savings. there are discounts representing the only discounts on foam steel 15% in pharmacies plantain is economical for you. vasyl zima's big broadcast. my
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glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, on espresso tv channel, studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will analyze the great putin kurultai in astana with the participation of representatives of turkey, china and so on, and at the same time we will try to outline the parameters of the polish-ukrainian security agreement. our guests today are the iconic polish politician bohdan borusevych, and... oleksandr morozov, a well-known political scientist who is in prague. and now bohdan borusewicz, a legendary polish politician, marshal of the polish senate from 2005 to 2015 and now a senator, will work on the espresso tv channel. welcome to the espresso studio, mrs. marschalko. good day to you,
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good day to the audience. first of all, i would like to to ask you how you assess the situation with the so -called security guarantees for ukraine. we understand that this is a very difficult ongoing matter. negotiations between eu countries, nato members, and, of course, a security agreement between poland and ukraine is currently on the table. actually, how do you see this structure? i am a supporter of political and military ties between ukraine and poland. and it's not just about deals, i think it's worth going further. with the support of the americans, of course, but we can stabilize this part of europe if we act together here. we are not talking about the formula of this connection, but it should be a very close connection, then we will be able to stabilize this part of europe, because russia will continue to be a serious country, and russia has shown itself to be an aggressive country, revisionist, without a sense of borders, so we have
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a common interest, that is, i believe that these guarantees must ensure a common interest. this is not a one-way guarantee. as well as guarantees from ukraine for poland, this is how you need to think, this is how you need to analyze it, but you also know that, no guarantees will help if ukraine does not will protect itself, because in the end there were guarantees not in the form of an agreement when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons. i remember how at that time the americans made sure that those nuclear weapons returned to russia. in general, how worried were they that valiz... would go somewhere and fall into the hands of terrorist groups, but what's the matter, the guarantees for ukraine are just the supply of weapons, and i think that it is necessary to go further, and poland should think we must jointly think about some kind of union with the support of the americans, without such support we are simply
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will be thrown out of nato, and with their support the americans will then be able to move to asia, because in the end it will be natural, and all the flights are about this... not only trump is talking about it, but also biden is talking about it, that american interests are primarily at this moment in of asia the problem of competition with china is not rivalry, no, but competition. serious competition, so if we went in that direction, everyone would be happy. actually, a lot will depend on the so-called political elites, we are talking about specific people in warsaw and kyiv. we have had a difficult few months, and i did not fully understand what happened, it is about some kind of cooling of relations between president duda and president zelensky, it is about a meeting at the united nations in the united states. now it looks like maybe the climate has improved and there is a chance again. on the continuation of polish-ukrainian cooperation in the field of security, but i want to say that there is a certain
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imbalance between poland and ukraine, and i noticed it in that matter: in poland, the prime minister and the government are in charge, not the president. power is in the hands of the prime minister, who has a level of power comparable to that of the chancellor. the president controls the sphere of security and the sphere of defense, and also has competence in the sphere of foreign policy. mostly in appointing ambassadors, and that's all. instead, all power over the army, also over the security forces, that is, over the police, over the services, is concentrated in the prime minister. this should be remembered when we talk about president zelenskyi and president duda here. yes, president zelensky has much more power here, in fact he has dictatorial power, but the president in poland does not. and as if then looked like and why am i talking about this? because
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the election time has come in poland, and the presidential party, i.e. law and justice, lost the election. and at this moment there is a completely different government. so, if we talk and look, and with whom we need to talk and decide now, it is with the government and the prime minister and with tusk. well, how do you assess the situation between the polish and ukrainian governments, between the polish and ukrainian authorities? because? it is necessary to continue cooperation and possibly raise it to some completely different, higher level. the current government in poland the civil coalition, of which i am a member, is the dominant party, and this is actually the power of the coalition. it is also necessary to remember that prime minister tusk must take into account the opinion of the coalition partners, and the same with regard to ukraine. fortunately, we continue the policy that concerns ukraine. such a policy, which was launched immediately, a policy of military and political support.
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voyskova means that we have given more tanks to ukraine than the whole of western europe put together. in fact, a huge number, about 500 tanks, more than 50 howitzers, powerful and modern, 20 thousand starlinks, more than 500 generators of electricity, and these are only such selected things. the most important for ukraine is course. military aid and support, but also political, that is, support for eu accession, and we give full support here. and support for joining nato. for poland, joining nato was much easier than joining the european union. because joining nato is a political decision. the army should be led by a civilian. that army must be adapted, but there is a beginning of adaptation to nato standards, and it is possible to join. and the introduction to of the european union. this is the adaptation of the entire economy to the standards of the european union, these are negotiations related to the transition
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period, and of course, the negotiations are related to the issue of grain. negotiations, negotiations. for example, when we had negotiations, we secured a long period during which there was a ban on the sale of land to foreigners, if suddenly someone was afraid of it. grain, grain, mr. marshalka. to the grain, and what do you want when it comes to the grain? and what will happen to the european union market, which is open to ukraine, but there is still a separate position of polish farmers and the polish government. we must take this into account, because we must also take into account the interests of our citizens. farmers are our citizens. and there will be a discussion, something will have to be done. and how sharp will it be? this is a discussion, mr. marshall. no, the discussion should take into account the interests of both parties, and
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it is quite possible that a transition period will be needed, since we have a ban on the movement of polish labor in the eu, that is, workers from poland, for the purchase of land, and it worked, those fears after a couple of years disappeared, but surely you want to ask me about the grain, what is the situation at the border at the moment? the current situation, will the so-called activists not return? they are not there, and you know if we keep an eye on it and negotiate in time, they won't come back, but what is the situation now? there are no blockades at the moment, there are no blockades, and you also know that there is no grain in poland at the moment, that means there is no grain, we are waiting for the new harvest, and it will be, then we will have grain, because now we have there is no grain in poland,
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we exported 14 million tons. i recently spoke with a colleague who specializes in this. and actually asked him, he says: there is no grain in poland, we lack grain. i say, let's buy it in ukraine, he answers that there is none in ukraine either, because ukraine exported 24 million tons. fortunately, there will be a harvest in the near future, but it is time to realize that if a problem arises, it must be solved, and not wait for months and so on. the previous government did not solve this and... and the problem only grew, the price of grain decreased, farmers claimed and complained, that it is connected with the influx of ukrainian grain, and it was because the price of grain on world markets also decreased, and that government told farmers: do not sell this grain now, because it will be more expensive in the fall. meanwhile, in the fall
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, the price of grain decreased, so it was easy to explain here, to develop such a theory that it is because of ukrainian grain. or through russian, so at this moment the situation is zero, but it is worth preparing for possible actions. of course, because we are entering the process of negotiations with the european union and understand that poland has its voice, and poland will defend its interests, of course, ukraine will defend its own. yes, and it is necessary to reach something. but the most important thing is that those national interests do not collide. no, interests are not that kind of selfishness, although, of course, there are those who say, it should be... i should earn from it, yes, huge money, billions of euros. yes, but of course, during the negotiations, ukrainian agriculture, which is very powerful, is a problem. it is necessary to agree here, because this is agriculture, where artificial fertilizer is not used at all, because there is chernozems, unless protective agents for plants
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are used. and because of this, the price of such grain can be much lower. ukraine's entry into the eu. this also means additional payments, also for ukrainian agriculture. we have additional payments per hectare of approximately €250. we already have average surcharges in europe, but we started with lower ones. but if agriculture enters ukraine, will it be possible to keep these additional payments at the same level, because ukraine will enter. so it's true. and our farmers, especially the large-scale ones who make money from it, will try for... it is necessary to understand, but negotiations, conversations and so on are needed here. in a democracy, nothing can be done by force, but there must be consultation mechanisms, communication mechanisms between the polish and ukrainian authorities, and here i am not necessarily talking about
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any open consultations, but between the president of ukraine and, for example, prime minister tusk, yes we were expecting a meeting, but... it was a bit delayed, as far as we understand, for various reasons. what would the situation look like now, mr. marshalka, what are the prospects for the growth of this diplomatic-political-economic activity we are active diplomatically, but we are also building our position in the european union. because we have lost this position, we are rebuilding the so-called weimar triangle. these are the meetings of poland, germany and france. and the role of poland has increased due to the fact that... we are the country on the ukrainian front, the closest to ukraine. aid goes to ukraine through us. because of us, because the hungarians blocked it. a little through romania, but most through us. grain exports go through romania, while military equipment goes through poland. this is not a secret. i am saying something that the russians know very well. but we, we
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politicians, say this to our colleagues, and i said it now to ukrainian colleagues, we must say so. to discuss what will happen after the war, how polish-ukrainian relations will develop, what we want, how we want those relations to look like, whether it should only be some general principle, as at this moment, or whether we should treat ukraine better, ukraine is our neighbor and ally, so we have a greater interest in cooperation with ukraine than, for example, the germans, who have more funds and will have... more funds, but have less national interest. and that's understandable. italy, spain are far away, and so are others. different interest and different attitude. and in the european union, this should all be centralized, it is not always so, because everyone looks after their own interests. the basis of the union is understanding,
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consensus, because if everyone fights to the end for their own, the eu will collapse, there is no such union, but everyone will get something, and we will benefit from the union. i agree with you, but this will also be a benefit for ukraine. because it is the case that the eu provides security, not only nato, but the european union, because these are multilateral economic ties, financial as well as cultural. so you have to remember that i am much more complicated than nato. for ukraine , nato now looks more difficult, because it is in conflict and wants to be accepted into nato, and constantly strives for it. and what does joining nato mean? the fifth article, the most important. this means putting article five into effect, that is, going to war, but not in the way that we give weapons, introduce our soldiers, and we understand this well, and the ukrainians
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also understand this well, and here we have something different interests, because ukraine would like to bring it to that. our goal, mr. marshalka, is victory over the russians, and it is, in the near future. this means that we have to involve as much different equipment as possible, we are talking about aviation, systems. air defense and so on. and there was an idea to, for example, use polish anti-aircraft systems to cover the western cities of ukraine. i have been thinking about this for a long time, and i am a supporter of such a decision, because it is not known whether a rocket flying to lviv will fall in poland. in lublin, for example, or in rzeszów. well, it is. it is known yes, that is why we must defend ourselves here, and on occasion, of course, defend ukraine as well. but that's the question. there are also for some interstate agreements on defense and so on, because we cannot so easily shoot over ukraine, and why, for example, if there was
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an agreement with the ministry of defense, with the general staff, it must be, but there is none at the moment, of course, that no, there is no such agreement, one country cannot shoot at another country without permission, without an agreement, even for its protection, they keep saying, putin says. that poland wants to occupy the western country, they constantly talk about it. i remember this conversation from hrynovsky. but i wrote a letter, i talked to the russians then and told them well: no, no, give something of your own. for example, the kaliningrad region, not someone else's. return smolensk to us, give the russians smolensk to us. no, smolensk is far away, but the kaliningrad region, so give us something different. we will even divide ourselves with the lithuanians, but you understand that this is an attempt at division, quite primitive, but we talked here about actions over ukraine, but the main thing is that
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patriots who are already near the ukrainian border in the vicinity of jeshuva are american patriots, and american, american commanders decide whether to shoot or not, that is, it should be a tripartite agreement, polish-ukrainian-american. but the americans will not agree to this, because they do not agree to far-reaching strikes on the territory of russia. now it has progressed very well that it is possible to attack, to attack the territory of russia within at least 100 km near the border through kharkiv, because otherwise the russians shelled it without any losses for themselves and the city was destroyed abroad, the russians went too far, and this is the american response, but... the decision of the american commanders. american leadership decides whether to shoot and where to shoot. we do not have such an opportunity.
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but poland still has its own patriot system. you know, poland has fewer patriots than ukraine at the moment, so i'd say we don't have any. and now we return to the system of protection of the ukrainian sky by the forces of poland, perhaps not only. poland and to the possibilities of poland, so the possibilities of poland and the possibilities nato, that is, we need, so yes, we gave the mig-29, we gave these planes, the problems are, you will have problems with missiles for the f-16, with the cover of those airfields, the defense of the airfields, we have to talk, discuss, but obviously, that we need military experts here, but those planes, those f-16s, have to be... protected, because there's no point in these planes being destroyed for three months, and the war is going on, and this plane is not extraordinary, it's a good plane, but not extraordinary, because it
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can also be destroyed, just like american tanks, because many times when i watch ukrainian television, suddenly there is a wave, there was a wave of bairaktars, they are amazing, then tanks, abrams, abrams, but also leopards, that’s how it looked, that’s how it was shown, the public was told, these weapons begged not destroyed, every weapon can be destroyed, and f-16s can be destroyed too, and they will be destroyed, but you have to prepare to... just protect them, and you have to know where to put them, once i said that in a country that has mountains , such things are located on underground bases, which are difficult to destroy, and the russians are already warning that if they are located on the territories of neighbors, that is , we are talking about poland, then such bases will be under attack, that is, russia will attack them, whether they will be attacked or not, i do not know, this is, of course, a matter for politicians, but from the technical side
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there is also the military, which must... know where, how, and so on, what distances, i think that such a situation may arise, what macron said will become relevant, and has poland joined the of this french proposal, whether the decision, if such a situation happened, the polish prime minister said no, but maybe everything will change, but i think that such a sharp denial is not good, let the russians not know until..."how we will behave, no one wants climb to the front, so while it is possible and while it is effective, we should help with the weapons that ukraine needs." it's just that the situation in the states can change, mr. marshall, trump can come, and of course, macron and not only macron are thinking about the situation, what will happen in a few months. but then the european union will unite, a deeper one will come consolidation of the european union both in the military sphere and in relation to foreign
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policy. in ukraine, we greatly appreciate, for example, poland's help, because it was done quickly, lightning fast, very quickly, so while in brussels only documents were being written, we would still be making phone calls between brussels and berlin. yes, but such help should be supported by society, because it can do more harm than good. i tell you, i look at ukrainian men who are in poland, young men, it causes a negative reaction from poles. we in ukraine are ready for them accept, but would poland be ready to give them or help us get them. we need to talk about this, but this is also an issue that is of your interest, because those men work, you know, if we lose them, then whole sectors of the economy, for example, construction,
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will collapse. it is necessary to weigh everything, but in my opinion, the key thing for poland is to support ukraine. and everything should be subordinated to this, both our political decisions and what we do abroad, because this is the most important thing, and why? it is clear, it is obvious. putin is a revisionist, he undermines all principles of international law. he pursues a policy of aggression, but he does not clearly outline his goals. whole, very vague, so we must do the same, answer, maybe yes, maybe not, if there is such a need. the most important thing is the readiness of the army. and ability. communication, logistics and capacity. i agree with you and would like to ask, for example, about the fate of the polish-lithuanian-ukrainian joint brigade. a few days ago i spoke with bohdan klich, the former minister of defense of poland and he said that there is a good prospect in order to create, for example,
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a division from this brigade. maybe even a military corps, polish-lithuanian-ukrainian, what would be the chances? as a slogan, as a political slogan, this is a good slogan, this polish-lithuanian-ukrainian brigade was created in a different situation, i remember the moment of its creation, i supported it, because it is really a matter of the future, although i did not know how russia would behave, but its benefit for the current situation is small, small, because what does it mean to have a brigade, but for the future it... would be useful? of course it would be useful, but in the future , logistics, armed and human support will always be useful for ukrainians. no, it is only about the climate, the situation may change in six months, but the most important thing is that there is something on paper, that is, we understand that there is a military bureaucracy, the bureaucracy of the ministry of defense, not only ukrainian, but also polish, and so on. here we have to think more broadly, about readiness, about the concept, about alliances, about
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