let's talk like this: you are in favor of the exit of kherson region from ukraine, the creation of an independent state by kherson region and its inclusion in the russian federation with the rights of a subject of the russian federation. we are ready to organize a referendum on the entire territory of kherson region. zakharova became the face of a fake referendum in the kherson region. propaganda media broke her speeches into quotes in which she reported on the organization of the referendum, people's interest in... voting and high turnout at the polling stations. we are already being informed that on some queues even form at the stations. to the question raised in the referendum, you answered yes, 497 51 participants in the referendum, which is more than 50% of the number of participants in the referendum. zakharova was involved in the creation of territorial election commissions and the formation of lists. voters

, arrangement of premises and other organizational issues. for such fruitful work, gauleiter volodymyr saldo awarded the traitor with the order of honor. thank you very much for the greetings, thank you for the award. i will live up to the trust you have placed in me the leadership of the kherson region in the person of volodymyr vasyliovych, and of course i will justify the trust of all residents of the kherson region. the sbu has already informed the traitor about the suspicion. due to encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of ukraine and collaborative activities, zakharova's property was seized, and she herself faces up to 12 years in prison. the kherson regional prosecutor's office has already sent an indictment to the court. the case is being considered by the malinovsky district court of the city of odesa. but one criminal case for zakharova was not enough. she diligently worked for another one. when this zaprodan was appointed as the main candidate for the kherson elections. oblast, she understood that if

you intimidate people and force them to vote, if you throw in ballots and falsify the results, the bunker grandfather will be very pleased, and what could be more important for her in this life? we are already fully ready for elections in september 2023. in september, the security service of ukraine informed her about the second suspicion. the law enforcement officers established that this traitor, on the instructions of curators from the kremlin created. visibility of the election process in the kherson region and falsified the so-called plebiscite in favor of russian puppets. she also organized a process in which representatives of fake election commissions , accompanied by armed militants, conducted round-the-yard rounds of residents of temporarily occupied districts of kherson region and forced them to participate in voting at gunpoint. all this in order to later report on the camera with a smile about the high turnout and sky-high results.

the political party edyna became the leader according to the voting results russia. now zakharova and two suspects are preparing for the next presidential election, which is to be held from march 15 to 17, 2024. perhaps, for their organization and conduct, this sales pike will receive a third suspicion, sit in prison on a comfortable bed and finally calm down for many years, let's hope. goes with russian. mandated by the united russia party rubin yevgenia romanivna, born in 1995 , until february 24, she worked as the deputy director for administrative and technical issues of the kherson bld. yevgeny to the people of kherson known as a fan of scriabin's work. during the election campaign in the fall of 2020 , with the participation of volodymyr salda, she revealed the morality of the image of the musician and held a concert in his memory. i am a fan of creativity. we wanted

to implement this idea probably four years ago and accordingly searched around the city where we could place this mural. when kherson was occupied by the rashists, evgenia exchanged scriabin's work for russian ditties, sat in the chair of the head of the department of land relations in the occupation ministry of agriculture and fisheries of kherson oblast, after which she was promoted and became the director of the institute of animal husbandry askania nova. apparently, the work of this traitor is very. the region of the occupier, because later they included it in the list of candidates for deputies from the united russia party. after the semblance of the election, evgenia not only received a mandate, but became the head of the faction. i am the head of the united russia faction in the kherson regional duma. as befits an important official, she created a telegram channel for herself, which currently has 31 subscribers. in it, rubin glorifies the russian swamps, putin, tries to convey people that russia helps. liberates and

saves, but for some reason no one understands and hears her, well, except for the traitors themselves, just like her. i really hope that our law enforcement agencies will clip the wings of this angelochka. i congratulate you on one of the most significant holidays of our state, the constitution day of the russian federation. this is another traitor with the mandate of kharitonov andrii mykolayovych, born in 1969 from the city of kherson. he is the former head of the watercraft section of the kherson shipbuilding plant. in 2015 , he ran for the kherson city council from party of our country and was unable to realize its political ambitions and. now the occupiers helped, who lured him with candy in the form of a mandate, he ran to the council, but everything was in order: when kherson was captured, andriy kharitonov betrayed ukraine and was one of the first to rush to help the russians, they thanked him with the chair of the director of the kherson

sea and trade port. according to the information of our law enforcement agencies, it was kharitonov who ensured the transfer of military equipment and ammunition of the russian federation from the left bank to the right bank of the dnieper. kharitonov. proved that he is obedient a dog, so he was made a deputy of the fake kherson regional duma. with the support of the united russia party and our senator ihor yuriyovych kostyukevich, we do not forget him either, we thank him. kharitonov has already received suspicion from the sbu, now his case is being considered by the kherson city court of the kherson region. a traitor faces up to 15 years in prison or life imprisonment with confiscation of property. we really hope so. that he receives severe punishment for his actions against ukraine. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you have information about kremlin sellers, write to us at this email address or simply on facebook. together we will send all the traitors in pursuit of the russian ship. see you in a week on

espresso. glory to ukraine, dear tv viewers, the west studio program is on the espresso tv channel. we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular, we will analyze the great putin conference in astana with the participation of representatives of turkey, china, etc., and at the same time we will try to outline the parameters of the polish-ukrainian security agreements today's guests are the famous polish politician bohdan borusevych, as well as the famous political scientist who is in prague, oleksandr morozov. and now bohdan borusewicz, a legendary polish politician, marshal of the polish senate from 2005 to 2015 and now a senator, will work on the espresso tv channel. greetings, mrs. marschalka, to the espresso studio. good day to you, good day to the audience. first of all, i would like

to ask you how you assess the situation with the so -called security guarantees for ukraine. we understand that this is a very difficult matter, negotiations between eu countries and nato members are ongoing, and of course, security between poland and ukraine is currently on the table. actually, how do you see this structure? i am a supporter of political and military ties between ukraine and poland. and it's not just about deals, i think it's worth going further. of course, with the support of the americans, but we can stabilize this part of europe if we act together here. we are not talking about the formula of this connection, but it should be very. close connection, then we will be able to stabilize this part of europe, because russia and will continue to be a serious country, and russia has shown itself to be an aggressive country, revisionist, without a sense of borders, so we have a common interest here, that is, i believe that these

guarantees should provide a common interest, it is not a guarantee only in one direction, but also guarantees from the side of ukraine for poland, it is necessary. to think, this is how you need to analyze it, but you also know it, no guarantees will help if ukraine does not defend itself, because after all, there were guarantees not in the form of an agreement, when ukraine gave up nuclear weapons, i remember how the americans took care then about those nuclear weapons returning to russia, in general, how they worried that that suitcase would go somewhere and fall into the hands of terrorist groups, but... what about the guarantees for ukraine - these are just arms deliveries, and i think , that it is necessary to go further, and poland must think, we must jointly think about some kind of union with the support of the americans, without such support we will simply be thrown out of nato, and with their support the americans

will then be able to move to asia, because in the end it will be natural, and about that all politicians are talking, not just trump, as well biden says that the americans... interests are primarily in asia at this moment. the problem of competition with china is not rivalry, no, but competition, serious competition. therefore, if we went in that direction, everyone would be... actually, a lot will depend here on the so-called political elites, we are talking about specific people in warsaw and kyiv. we had several difficult months, and for myself i did not fully understand what happened, it is about such a cooling of relations between president duda and president zelensky, it is about a meeting at the united nations in united states. now it seems that it is possible, the climate has improved and there is again a chance to continue polish-ukrainian cooperation in the field of security. but i want to say that there is a certain imbalance between poland and ukraine, and

i noticed it in that matter: in poland, the prime minister and the government are in charge, not the president. power rests in the hands of the prime minister, who has the same level of power as the chancellor. the president controls the sphere of security and the sphere of defense, also has competence in the sphere of foreign policy, mostly in what he appoints ambassadors and that's all. instead, all power over the army, also over the security forces, that is, over the police, over the services, is concentrated in the prime minister. this should be remembered when we talk about president zelenskyi and president duda here. yes, president zelensky has much more power here, in fact he has dictatorial power, but the president in poland does not. and what would it look like then? and why am i talking about this? and at the moment there is a completely different government,

so if we talk and look at who we need to talk to and decide now, then it is with the government and the prime minister with tusk. well, how do you assess the situation between the polish government and the ukrainian government, between the polish government and the ukrainian government, because it is necessary to continue cooperation and possibly raise it to a completely different level. the highest level, the current government in poland, the civil coalition, of which i am a member, is the dominant party, and this is actually the government of the coalition. it is also necessary to remember that prime minister tusk must take into account the opinion of the coalition partners, and the same with regard to ukraine. fortunately, we are we continue the policy that concerns ukraine, the policy that was started immediately, the policy of support. in fact, a huge

amount, about 500 tanks, more than 50 powerful and modern howitzers, 20 thousand starlinks, more than 500 generators of electricity, and these are only such selected things. of course, the most important thing for ukraine is military aid and support, but also political, that is, support. to the eu, and we give full support here. and support for joining nato. for poland, joining nato was much easier than joining the european union. because the introduction to nato is a political decision. the army should be led by a civilian. that army must be adapted, but there is a beginning of adaptation to nato standards, and it is possible to join. and joining the european union is the adaptation of the entire economy to the standards of the european union. this is burnout. bores that relate to the transition period. and of course, the negotiations are related to

the issue of grain. negotiations, negotiations. for example, when we had negotiations, we secured a long period during which there was a ban on the sale of land to foreigners, if suddenly someone was afraid of it. grain, grain, sir marshalka let's go back to the grain. and what do you want when it comes to grain? so what? will be with the eu market that is open to ukraine, but there is still a separate position of polish farmers and the polish government. we must take this into account, because we must also take into account the interests of our citizens. farmers are our citizens. and there will be a discussion, something will have to be done. and how intense will this discussion be, mr. marshalka? no, consider the discussion. movement of

polish labor force, i.e. workers from poland, and it worked, those fears because of disappeared for a couple of years, but surely you want to ask me about the grain, what is the situation at the border at the moment? the current situation, will the so-called activists not return? they are not there, and you know, if we keep an eye on it and negotiate in time, they will not return, but what is the situation? there is no grain, we are waiting for the new harvest, and it will come, then we will have grain, because now we do not have grain in poland, we exported 14 million tons, i recently spoke with a colleague

who specializes in this, and i actually asked him, he says there is no grain in poland. do we lack grain? i say, let's buy it in ukraine, he answers that there is none in ukraine either, because ukraine exported 24 million tons. fortunately, there will be harvest in the near future, but it's time to realize that if a problem appears, it must be solved, and not wait for months and so on. the previous government did not address this, and the problem only grew. the price of grain decreased, the farmer... claimed and complained that this was due to the influx of ukrainian grain, and it was because the price of grain also decreased in the world markets, and that government told farmers: do not sell it grain now, because it will be more expensive in the fall. meanwhile, in the fall, the price of grain decreased, so it was easy to explain here, to develop such

a theory that it was because of ukrainian grain, or because of russian grain. so, at this moment, the situation is zero. but it is worth preparing for possible actions. of course, because we are entering the process of negotiations with the european union and we understand that poland has its voice, and poland will defend its interests, of course, ukraine will defend its own. yes, and it is necessary to reach something. but the most important thing is that those national interests are not collided no, interests are not such selfishness, although, of course, there are those who say, it must be, i must earn from it. yes, a lot of money. yes, but of course, during the negotiations, ukrainian agriculture, which is very powerful, is a problem, we have to agree here, because this is agriculture where artificial fertilizers are not used at all, because there is black soil, except that plant protection products are used, and because of this, the price of such grain can be much lower. ukraine's accession

to the eu means additional payments for ukrainian rural. we have additional payments per hectare of approximately €250. we already have average surcharges in europe, but we started with lower ones, but if ukrainian agriculture enters , will it be possible to keep these surcharges at the same level, because ukraine will join. so it's true. and our farmers, especially large-scale ones, who make money from it, will try to protect the level of those surcharges, because it is billions of euros. this must be understood, but negotiations, conversations and so on are needed here. in a democracy, nothing can be done by force. but there should be consultation mechanisms, communication mechanisms between the polish and ukrainian authorities. and here i am not necessarily talking about any open consultations, but between the president of ukraine and, for example, prime minister

tusk, right? we were expecting a meeting, but it was slightly delayed, as far as we understand, for various reasons. as the situation looked, mr. marshalka, what are the prospects for the growth of this diplomatic-political-economic activity? we are active diplomatically, but we are also building our position in the european union, because we lost this position, we are rebuilding the so-called the weimar triangle, it is the meeting of poland, germany and france. and the role of poland has increased due to the fact that we are the country on the ukrainian front, the closest to ukraine. by. aid goes to ukraine through us, because the hungarians blocked it, a little through romania, but most of it through us. grain exports go through romania, while military equipment goes through poland. this is not a secret. i am saying what the russians know very well. but we, we politicians, say this to my colleagues and i said it now to ukrainian colleagues, we must speak

and discuss what will happen after the war, how the polish-ukrainian will be formed. what do we want, how do we want those relations to look like, should it just be some general principle, as at this moment, or should we treat ukraine better. ukraine is our neighbor and ally. therefore, we have a greater interest in cooperation with ukraine than, for example, the germans, who have more funds and will have more funds, but have a smaller national interest. and it is clear, italy, spain are far away, and others are the same, different interest and a different attitude in the european union, it should all be centralized, it is not always so. there is, because everyone looks after their own interests. in the union, the basis is understanding, consensus. because if everyone will fight to the end for their own,

the eu will collapse. there is no such union. however, everyone will get something, and we will benefit from the union. i agree with you, but this will also be a benefit for ukraine. because it is the case that the eu provides security, not only nato, but. union, because these are multilateral economic ties, financial as well as cultural. so it is necessary remember that there is much more complicated than nato. for ukraine, nato now looks more difficult, because it is in conflict, and wants to be accepted into nato, and constantly strives for it. and what does joining nato mean? the fifth article, the most important. yes, it means putting article five into effect, that is, going to war, but... not in the way that we give weapons, bring in our soldiers, and we understand that well, and the ukrainians also understand that well, and here we have somewhat different interests, because ukraine would like to

bring it to that. our goal, mr. marshalka is there a victory over the russians? and so it is, in the near future. this means that we have to involve as much different equipment as possible, we are talking about aviation, air defense systems and so on. and there was such an idea to, for example, use anti- aircraft systems to cover the western cities of ukraine. i have been thinking about this for a long time, and i am a supporter of such a decision, because it is not known whether a rocket flying at lviv will fall in poland. in lublin, for example, or in rzeszow. well, it is. this is known. yes, that's why we have to defend ourselves here and on occasion, of course, to protect ukraine as well. but this question is also for some intergovernmental agreements on defense and so on. because we cannot shoot over ukraine so easily. why? and, for example, if there was an agreement between the ministry of defense and the general staff. she must be. and she is not there now. of course there

isn't. there is no such agreement. one country cannot fire without permission, without agreement, on another country, even for its defense. they talk all the time. putin says that poland wants to occupy a western country. constantly about it. but i wrote a letter, i spoke then with by the russians and told them well: no, no, give something of your own, for example, the kaliningrad region, and not someone else's, return smolensk to us, give the russians smolensk to us. no, smolensk is far away, but the kaliningrad region, so give us something of our own, and we will even share with the lithuanians ourselves, but you understand that this is an attempt... to split is quite primitive, but we talked here about actions over ukraine, but the main thing is that the patriots, who are already

near the ukrainian border in the vicinity of rzeszów, are american patriots, and american, american commanders decide to shoot or not, that is, it should be a tripartite polish-ukrainian -american agreement, but the americans will not agree to it, because they do not agree. the territory of russia within at least 100 km near the border through kharkiv, because otherwise the russians shelled it without any losses for themselves and abroad, destroyed the city, the russians went far away, and this is the american answer, but the patriot batteries, which were located in zheshov, are subject to by the decision of the president'. the american leadership decides whether to shoot and where to shoot, we do not have that option, but poland still has its own

patriot system, you know, poland has fewer patriots than ukraine at the moment, so i will say in general, we don't have any, and now we return to the system of protecting the ukrainian sky by the forces of poland and possibly not only poland, but also to the capabilities of poland. yes, the capabilities of poland and the capabilities of nato, that is, we need, so yes, we gave the mig-29, we gave these planes, the problems are such, you will have problems with missiles for the f-16, with the cover of those airfields, the defense of the airfields, we must say, discuss but it's obvious that military experts are needed here, but those planes, those f-16s, have to be protected, because there's no point in those planes being destroyed. for three months, and the war continues, and this plane is not extraordinary, it is a good plane, but not extraordinary, because it can also be destroyed, just like

american tanks, because i... repeatedly, when i watch ukrainian television, then suddenly there is a wave, there was a wave of byraktars, they are amazing, then tanks. abrams, abrams, but also leopards, this is what it looked like, this is how it was shown, it was told to the public, this begged the weapons are not indestructible, every weapon can be destroyed and f-16s can also be destroyed and they will be destroyed, but you have to prepare just to protect them and you have to know where to put them, as i said. that in a country with mountains, such things are located on underground bases that are difficult to destroy, and the russians have already warned that if they are located on the territories of neighbors, that is, poland, then such bases will be under attack, that is, russia will attack them, attack them or not, i don't know, this is of course a matter for politicians, but from the technical side there are also military personnel who must know where, and

so on, which. distance, i think that such a situation may arise, what macron said will become relevant, and has poland joined this french proposal, or is it a solution, if such a situation were to happen? the polish prime minister said no. but maybe everything will change. but i think that such a sharp objection is not good. let the russians not know to the end how we will behave. no one wants to go to the front, so... as long as it is possible and as long as it is effective, we must help with the weapons that ukraine needs. it's just that the situation can change in the states, mr. marshall, trump can come. and of course, macron and not only macron are thinking about the situation that will happen in a few months. but then the european union will unite, there will be a deeper consolidation of the european union both in the military sphere and in relation to foreign policy. but pace, pace, pace.

in ukraine, we greatly appreciate, for example, poland's help, because it was done quickly, lightning fast, very quickly. yes, while in brussels they would only write documents to make phone calls between brussels and berlin. yes, but like this aid should be supported by society, because more harm than good can be done. but i will tell you, i look at ukrainian men who are in poland, young men. it causes a negative reaction among the poles. we in ukraine are ready to accept them, but would poland be ready to give them or help us get them? we need to talk about this, but this is also an issue that is of your interest, because those men work, you know, if we lose them, then whole sectors of the economy, for example, construction, will collapse. it is necessary to weigh everything, but how... the key

thing for poland is the support of ukraine, and everything should be subordinated to this, and our political decisions and what we do abroad, because this is the most important thing, and why? it is clear, it is obvious, putin is a revisionist, he undermines all the principles of international law. he is pursuing a policy of aggression, but his goals, he does not clearly outline his goals, are very vague, so we should do the same, accordingly. give, maybe yes, maybe not, if there is such a need. the most important thing is the readiness of the army and capacity, communication, logistics and capability. i agree with you and would like to ask, for example, about the fate of the polish-lithuanian-ukrainian joint brigade. a few days ago, i spoke with bohdan klich, the former minister of defense of poland, and he said that there is a good prospect for creating, for example, a division from this brigade, and perhaps even a military corps, polish-lithuanian-ukrainian, which were . as

a political slogan, it is a good slogan. this polish-lithuanian-ukrainian brigade was created in other situations. i remember the moment of its creation, supported it, because it is really a matter of the future. although he did not know how russia would behave, its benefit for the current situation is small. it is small, because what of the fact that there is a brigade. but it would be useful for the future. of course, it would be useful, but for the future for ukraine. logistics, armed and human support will always be useful. no, it is only about the climate, the situation may change in six months, but the most important thing is to have something on paper. that is , we understand that there is a military bureaucracy, the bureaucracy of the ministry of defense, and not only that ukrainian, but also polish and so on. here we have to think more broadly, about readiness, about the concept, about alliances, about alliances of various types. and...