in the future, another 100 and 120, on the other hand, these are missile complexes of various types, not only stromshadow, for example, er, scalp t, but just and it is possible the latest fifth-sixth generation, which today cannot be deciphered, and this is already a powerful block that will destroy reserves in the deep rear and medium rears, and this will give the opportunity to replenish the combat team on the demarcation line, and this is the perspective of our offensive operations, this is... armored vehicles, which do not say how much and what, in general talked about, for example, the same bradleys additionally, leopards, what are additional, different, systems of combating drones, which will be actively used by us today systematically and on the front line and already in a number of regions, where we feel that the logistical routes of these drones are systematically running, from where they are launched from russia, from crimea, for example , there will be cheetahs, other systems that will be installed today. that is, packages of specific aid,

except those declared in a general way, are not deciphered, and especially high-precision weapons, for example, cluster ammunition, cabs, which may have already been declared as a whole without decryption, that is armored vehicles and especially radio electronic systems that can neutralize both ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, this is a powerful electronic shield, this is a sixth-generation means, this can be a very important factor, then... then we will also create air defense systems, will knock down the patriots from the strategic level to the tactical and front, and of course the electronic shield that will neutralize all possible launches, or their movement to ukraine or to the front line, this will be a large format, so i think this part is usually 100% encrypted , and this is for the prospect of victory, because the enemy will not know this and will not expect it, so we have an air alarm here again, well...

actually, it is also good that the espresso tv channel, our studio is already in ukryta, so there is nowhere to go , i don’t need a specific one for my colleagues right now, but if you are not in shelter, please protect yourself as much as possible, now we will look at the map, air alarms, well, for now, cherkasy region, kyiv region, kyiv, chernihiv region, sumy region, poltava region, that’s what we have there is a connection, as far as i understand, and i still know what i wanted from you, mr. mykola, i hear... for me, i can’t reduce it to a heap, well, i’m trying to make some guesses in principle, but if putin takes this long , this move is on the eve of the summit, in fact , on the eve of the start of the summit, make this bloody blow to the khmadit and we’re fine we understand that if the rocket had hit a little, a little differently, a few tens of meters or hundreds of meters there, the number of victims among children, especially those who were treated there, would have been much higher, it would have been a much bloodier story.

although she is guilty anyway, because it is an attack on the children's center, people have abandoned it, but they are sending this one orban, for which, by the way , hungary can lose the presidency of the european union and his trial, well, how they actually do not perceive his handshake with putin and all these things, talk about the istanbul agreements, to which putin is ready to return, orban is going to siedenpin in china , and then against the background of all this, that we supposedly want to come to an agreement somehow, well, in principle, we are not against it. this terrible terrorist crime is being committed in the eyes of the whole world, this is illogical russia, are there people in russia who , well, this is what i heard, there is also such a thing, there is business, at least someone who says, well, let's at least somehow, at least something, somewhere somehow still go out, at least for some negotiations, because it's hard for us anyway because of these sanctions, and there is an inadequate person who doesn't need anything at all, and who still wants , so that they would come to her on their knees and say, tsar, give us too... what you want,

or give it on your terms, explain this logic, because i don't know where to go with this logic of modern russia, which i may no longer understand they went there, maybe they're already completely different, even than they were before the invasion began, uh, maybe you can explain this logic to me, what they tried to achieve, first talking about some kind of conditional negotiations, conditional, again, and then it turns out that they will burn all bridges and say no, this is how we will act, or you will be scared, discouraged, you put your hands down and say, don't kill people, as they said, by the way, many of these bloggers, all kinds of activists, and by the way, all... people's deputies of ukraine, that the end of the war is victory - one deputy said, let's somehow, although, because you see what is happening, please explain to me, well , first of all, putin strategically planned to seize ukraine very quickly, and he miscalculated accordingly, we know this one hundred percent, not just from the conclusions, but he had clear plans that ukraine would quickly surrender and the people of ukraine would support putin, his aggression, well, these are absurd things, but he is so clearly convinced that he was clearly told about it, it did not

happen, he is trying other methods , methods of large-scale offensive operations, methods of striking the civilian population, methods of neutralization, maybe... energy supply so that people suffer, so that there are huge victims, and now the way of terror is to force the people of ukraine to surrender, that is, he realized that the spirit of the people of ukraine cannot be defeated, and that's why i think, but he is, you know, a terrorist, he thinks that i will defeat them anyway, i will sweep everything away, that is why his first component is force strikes, these are huge sacrifices, i think that people will be afraid and demand from the leadership of ukraine, and then... accordingly, while still working with europe, like orban, china, turkey, brazil, and they will be from their own side to incline us to peace, but on the terms of russia with occupied territories with a constant threat, accordingly, of new, new terrorist attacks, but his main strategy today is to finish by force, and that is why

he told orban, and orban announced before that, that if ukraine and partners ours will not heal for peace and conditions, which for... problems putin practically said, well, peace initiatives with the occupied territories, it will be even worse, putin told him, and literally a day later he launched rockets at ahmadit, at the sex house, at residential quarters of kyiv and others city ​​of ukraine. this is specifically putin, he informed even orban, and orban voiced everything, otherwise yes, these were general phrases, but they turned into concrete actions, literally days have passed and there are already concrete systemic victims, so here... there is nothing new, putin is trying to blackmail on the one hand with this force, the victim is absurd, even killing, mass terrorist attacks on children, but on the other hand about, on this background, let's negotiate, i am ready to stop the war already, but when you abandon nato, when you leave

a number of regions, then you will no longer have people and children dying, this is cynicism of the highest level, and it is in putin's blood, there is no way out, he is cornered and sees only one way out. not to retreat and, in accordance with the norms of international law, to complete the territories, but to achieve, to achieve on the battlefield and to carry out strikes on all regions of ukraine, bringing great sacrifices to the people of ukraine, this is its essence, therefore at the moment it is extremely important that we join forces together with partners, a new strategy that would be strengthened by the latest weapons, equipment, and ammunition allowed to launch powerful counterattacks and to carry out an operation to liberate ukraine in full... not in part, as putin proposes, and the second component is to really incline nato countries, but other countries to the scenario of a new global security, where the war should be stopped, accordingly and support our position, according to the principle of international law, not putin's position, and putin can be defeated

and will change his position, china, turkey, and even brazil, india, when we win on the battlefield, then they will say, but we support the principle international law, and country ukraine. really defends its interests and is already winning on the battlefield, we are also for it, and until then they will each defend their interests, act as mediators, china will try to take leadership in the whole world, it has such a mission now, that i stand by the process, there the conflict allegedly did not clearly define that there is aggression, that all mental and non -mental norms are violated, even what is declared by china, while china constantly shouts that we are for sovereignty, we have no right. aiming at what is taiwan, and what is ukraine, this is not a real concrete act of aggression and a large-scale war to seize territories, here we need to understand what is what, well, i said, only then can all countries be moved to systemically support ukraine, when we will win,

if if russia will propose its scenario, then they will play with russia and with the west, who will support whom, how to give preference to russia, and then somewhere we will go to some... agreements are partial, but do not fully support the idea of ​​liberating ukraine, as provided for international norms, a single formula, no other formula has been invented, all signed the un charter, and all international conventions and european conventions, which provide that aggression must be punished, and the aggressor must leave the territory. thank you, mr. mykola, but china, just in order to dominate the world and dictate its language, must first develop software. facilities that are used all over the world, so that your language is used all over the world, technologies that would be used all over the world, well, so that in in principle, people wanted to live like in china, and not , let's say, like in europe or the usa, and buy things, luxury goods and everything else too, for some reason the chinese rich buy not chinese, but

european, american, and so you can dream about many things, yes, this is mykola malomuzh, he was a general of the army of ukraine, the former head of the foreign intelligence service, i now want to... we watched such a slide show that was prepared in the kherson region, we talked about it today, the enemy hit kherson, a fire started, and - and, the rescuer... came to overcome the consequences this strike, but the enemy made a second strike from drones precisely on the cars of firemen, state emergency service workers , the car was damaged, but fortunately the crew was able to survive in this story, well, this is once again proof that the enemy continues its shelling, and of course, somehow, in such a dry remnant, we understand that the enemy is already there again... half a year into this full-scale war and already more than 10 years,

already 11 years of the war between russia and ukraine, the enemy wants to break us once again, right now, as they say, it is doing, taking us under siege, well, but there is such a good phrase, when you take a step to get away from fate, you are coming to it, if the fate of russia falls apart, after all, she took a step , so that... in the detective story of this fate, having attacked ukraine on a full scale, perhaps this was the step that will lead to its collapse, because history is always wiser, even than the likes of putin and his entire fsb. yes, and now we will talk about the economy, more, ivan us, candidate of economic sciences, is in touch with us. mr. ivan, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, mr. vasyl, and i congratulate all viewers of the espresso tv channel. let's start with what is absolutely obvious, well, we actually talked about russia, we actually talked about russia with mr.

malomuzh, let's start with russia, but with direct reference to ukraine about sanctions, now at the nato summit they talked about what kind of weapons to give to ukraine, that sanctions still affect russia, they will weaken it, at the same time russia will receive help from other countries, from someone it receives shells, most of which explode while still in the barrels, i am... north korean, but i do not underestimate the help of north korea as a partner of the aggressor country, after all, it helps its own with those shells that the soviet union once handed over to it, now it is selling them again, but other countries have actively scattered their help, nevertheless, how effectively, in your opinion , did the sanctions hit the russian economy, is it possible, as they say, the blow took place, russia faltered, but it will fall for a long time, how can you comment on this and... can we count on the fact that though will the sanctions have a visible effect? well, you know, there is

a knockout and a knockdown in oxy, but the knockout was not exactly repelled, but as for the knockdown here, it is quite possible, because in reality, yes, russia, whether it happens, it is according to different calculations, someone there says that she was in ten economies of the world and only now fell out of the top ten, according to the international monetary fund, on the contrary, it was the 11th economy in the world and... let's say, it did not enter the top ten, but nevertheless, we understand that it was a serious economy, and therefore, it cannot be brought down by sanctions very quickly, however, right now already 2.5 years after the start of a full-scale war and more significant sanctions than what was before, and the sanctions were in principle from 2014, but they, well, let's say, did not have any significant effect, while now the sanctions are gaining momentum and gain considerable measure. because they are starting to look at where the sanctions are not working and looking

at how russia is getting around them, because to a large extent russia, especially the first year or two after the start of the small-scale war, was very interested in iran's experience in how to get around sanctions are imposed against him, because we know that iran has been under sanctions for more than 15 years, it seems, but nevertheless it does not interfere. we have to develop, this experience was important for russia, because on the one hand russia also circumvented sanctions, on the other, as noted by western experts, the problem was that western countries, at the same time, countries of the global south, imposed sanctions against russia, they they traded normally with russia, and this allowed russia to adhere to, let's say, today moment, however, it didn't mean that everything was as good as it was before, so... because any restriction, any, let's say, sanctions that were imposed, they demanded from russia

the costs of adapting to them, and these expenses, they also put pressure on the russian budget, and now, let's give a point where we are, the middle of july this year, this is the figure that was at the beginning of this month, in russia, weekly inflation in the first week of july... 0.66 %. you can say that this is not such a critical number, but i will remind you that it is a week before that, it was 0.22, that is, three times more. inflation, let's see what will happen next, it is quite possible that the reason for this significant increase was the increase in tariffs, it also happened in ukraine and the same thing happened in russia, but nevertheless we see that inflation is accelerating there, and what is interesting is that in in june, russia used 0.6 trillion of its

national welfare fund, for the sake of understanding, it remains according to russian data, that is, it is not a fact that these are real data. 4.6, if we elementary multiply 0.6 there by eight months, then it turns out that there is nothing be, and i, in addition to the fact that this is just money taken from the imf, there is also a budget deficit, which is expected in russia at the level of 2.1 trillion at the end of this year, and it will also have to be covered from the imf, so it may not as we wanted, but the russian economy is clearly going down. you know, there is such a phrase in russia: they did not live well, i will not speak russian, because in our country now the russian language should no longer be heard on the airwaves, even in quotes, they did not live well, there is nothing to start with, so of course for many residents of russia , there taxes, reduction of some social expenses for medicine, for something else, well , actually, nothing in their lives changes

when you watch the video, it's some kind of siberia there, well, it's just like a story illustration. and there they have such a monorail that goes once a quarter , like, like, something brings food there, there is a fab , there are small houses, well, siberia, there is nothing there , one person per 1000 km, it was like that even before the full-scale invasion, and the local residents say, well, now this train runs there with two cars, but the forest takes away this road as the railway line gets overgrown, it won't be able to travel , and it doesn't occur to them that it is possible to cut it down. it is possible to clear it, no, well, it will be overgrown, and it won’t be, and how will they deliver food to you, but we don’t know how, well, how and what taxes will have some effect on them there, but of course it affects russia, i mean moscow and there is st. petersburg, the big cities of russia, but the information is very interesting, we’re not up for discussion, it’s just about the fact that russia doesn’t care, and it doesn’t care, well

, it doesn’t matter, cnn gives such information with reference to officials, and actually cnn i i think for... lived the reputation of the media, which should be trusted, that russia planned the assassination of the ceo of the company rain metal, this is a company that, together with ukraine, sells weapons to ukraine and prepares factories on the territory of ukraine, there in poland, which will produce weapons for ukraine, the american german special services were able to disrupt these plans of the russian federation, this is one thing that is important, that they don't care and don't care, again, they don't care, there's just no other way than to kill someone or something else they come up with... well, also there was a meeting of the president of the united states and joseph biden joseph biden president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky information that has already appeared, and joe biden announced a new aid package for ukraine, while the us president did not name any details, only updated that the ministry of defense, that is, the pentagon, will later make the details public, apparently by the mouth of lloyd austin, and he also

said that everything is being done to ensure that the f-16 aircraft arrive in ukraine already this summer . i think that we will be able to hear zelenskyi and biden, the presidents of both countries, a little later, we are waiting for their approach to press, for broadcast, and there will be an approach of nato secretary general jens stoltenberg stoltenberg and president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi. well, i also know that it is important for russia, or very painful, they really do not like humiliation when their money, which is interest from russian assets in european banks there, or maybe in certain funds, others, i don’t know where they kept this money there. investment funds or some venture capital, i don’t know where, i again, i don’t know, but you say that these percentages will work for ukraine, as much as this is a painful blow, it is not somewhere not 10 trillion dollars at once, but still it is significant, it is billions, and prospects, again, of these percentages, what can we have even more later, how painful and financially painful and morally painful is it

for russia? well, actually, you know, talking now. it is about 300 billion dollars, because no one has ever named the figure exactly, they said, some say 200, 50, some 300, well, i am more concerned with the figure of 300 billion dollars, these are frozen russian assets, of which these are the assets of the central bank of russia, this it is important because this is not private money, it is purely public money, 200, or rather 191 billion of them are in the belgian euroclia exchange in brussels, that is, for understanding. and they belong to the central bank of russia, there is belgium plus luxembourg 210 in total, that is , each one is there. does not have much money, by the way, in the united states of america, that is , mainly in all of europe, nevertheless, if we go back now to the 22nd year, there february,

march, then there was a clear understanding that these assets should be frozen, what actually happened done and that they will be handed over to ukraine, but sometime later, in april or may, talks began that this should not be done, that this would undermine confidence in the european economy, and somehow the issue was on hold. and it is now largely on hold, because then half-measures began to appear, at first they said that let's give ukraine taxes from the profits from these assets, then the actual profits and the last meeting of the big synka actually discussed what the profits were ukraine will be granted a loan, secured rather these profits, but now there is information that saudi arabia is threatening that it will then realize the debts. europe's obligations, that is, which asks not to do this, well, actually, there are many reasons why it is not done, you know, i once specifically analyzed this moment, that first of all

, there is a real fear that it will hit on, let's say , the image of the country that will do this, it undermines confidence in them, in these economies, secondly, the legal component, thirdly, it is germany's fear that this will be a precedent, according to which germany itself will have to take away its assets since the second world war. war, someone says that it was a long time ago, but poland during the time of the previous government filed, let me remind you, a complaint for 1.5 billion euros to germany precisely since the second world war, and there are also italian complaints from italian banks, which is interesting italy was an ally of germany, nevertheless, it was during the second world war that there are complaints and ideas that let's seize german property, that is, germany is very afraid of this and the precedent with ukraine can play a negative role also... for her and therefore germany has always slowed down her, let's say, decision on this issue. nevertheless, the fact that the issue is moving is good, for russia, it is a very painful issue,

i will say for myself that you know, since i very often appear in the air of arab channels, and arab television, it is built, i think as in other countries of the world, where there is a guest from ukraine, a guest from russia, and various topics are discussed, including russian assets are frozen, and i constantly heard the phrase: that under no circumstances should you touch the state assets of russia, because it would there will be theft in of the state itself, at the same time, they were not against private money, let private money chip in, but not state russian funds, well, okay, i think that there will be a moment, and joseph stiglobovskyi, the laureate in economics at the beginning of this year, even said that and why this we are only thinking about state money, let's also think about private money, because after all, state money is worth... billions, and if we take private money, that is, the money of people who are under sanctions, who are most likely connected to the kremlin, there will be a figure much larger, but the main thing is that again these discussions are what

the scientific circles are already joining them, bloomberg asked lawyers, the lawyers said that it is possible to transfer to ukraine, it will not be a violation of legal statutes, legal norms, that is, okay, we see that this point is also falling away and economic, legal, that is... in the principle of the discussion yes, it's good, i think there will be a solution, it's unpleasant for russia, because it will once again demonstrate that if they didn't declare there that they want to leave the west in every way, but they need this money in order for their economy to work normally , because you know, they say again that everything is great, huh if you just listen to certain business forums that take place in russia, there is a statement for a moment by the first... deputy head of the central bank that if russia does not come up with something urgently, the russian economy may, let's say, get into trouble it, and there they practically say that let

's return to natural exchange, to barter, that is, you know, somehow the world moved away from these natural exchanges a very, very long time ago, but russia wants to return, because of the option, because these sanctions are among other things, let's yes, on june 24, sorry, the 14th package is accepted. eu station, and three days before that , the leading chinese producer of residuals for the energy supply of lng2 arctic shale gas terminals in russia declares that he is leaving russia because he has an insight that there will be sanctions against lng in the 14th package and he does not want to be present in russia, and this happens a few days before these sanctions, that is, we see that even china is gradually withdrawing. from russia, and they understand this in russia, the economic leadership understands this, which asks the political to do something, the political begins increased pressure on ukraine, unfortunately,

we... we all saw it during the attack on ukraine and on ahmadis, as far as i am concerned, it was just another attempt to force ukraine to peace, because there i i understand that if there are no peace talks, then it is quite possible that the russian economy, if it survives this year, is not a fact that it will survive the next one, well, by the way, i want to now offer to listen to what you said that a chinese company... is pulling out of a certain project there because is afraid of secondary sanctions from the united states of america, i would like us to listen now to nato secretary general jens stoltenberg specifically about china's role in supporting the russian economy. china supplies russia with dual- use equipment, including microelectronics and many other enabling tools. the russian federation

is building bombs, missiles, and planes for attacks on ukraine. beijing cannot support the largest war on the continent in recent history without negative consequences for its reputation and interests. i, by the way, only, you know they talked about the fact that public funds, okay, private ones, let's think, i think that it is necessary to come to an agreement with the western establishment, especially not only the western ones, that in this putin's racist russia, recognize it as the term racism, and not be afraid of it , that nazism has been resurrected in modern russia, because that is what it is, it is simply called differently, and to admit that these private funds of rich people of russia, they could not have happened without the help of the fsb, without the help of the authorities, and i will only say that somewhere that before a full-scale invasion begins, a long time before the start of the full-scale invasion, only one moscow had an official 21... one

dollar billionaire, it's only officially for one moscow, it was almost the largest among all the capitals of the world, it's just a huge number of people, but we understand that there are much more of them in to all of russia, these people could not earn their billions without cooperation with russia, the fact that they remain billionaires in this russia today means that their money somehow works for the modern, modern russian racist regime, is it so it is difficult to admit it, but another question: can these people influence putin's decisions, even if they are squeezed by the throat quite strongly? it seems that in russia there is a kind of social contract between the oligarchs and the government, that the government does not touch the oligarchs, gives them the opportunity to earn money, in exchange for this, the oligarchs do not get involved in politics, you know, we can remember a person who was against such a social contract , this is

mykhailo khadarkovskii and... who even criticized during one meeting with putin at the beginning of putin's rise to power as the president, actually certain approaches of the state, and after that khadarkovskiy was arrested, a person who at that time was the richest person in russia with a fortune of 15 billion dollars, it was approximately 2003, and now he was arrested, and this was a signal to all russian business, that now the rules have changed, now either you completely... become a component of this great mechanism, for this you will not be touched, or you will have problems, and problems, by the way, well, khadarkovskiy is the most famous case, i will not mention it right now last name, there was another businessman in in russia, which i remember, a miller was arrested in the reception room, that is, a person is invited to a meeting with the head of gazprom, he comes, he is arrested there, because the

sybur company, if i am not mistaken, he owned it... they asked him to give it , he actually forced her, yakiv holodovsky remembered the surnames, and he was forced to give her back and leave russia, because, as i understand it, they made it clear to him that he was not really needed here, and that is why business became a component of the state machine , and many from russian oligarchs, he is, as they say, the official owner of the money belonging to the russian elite, that is, putin cannot blame everything on himself , he likes to say that he is a poor person, and according to the documents , this is most likely the case , because all its assets are assigned to many of the same billionaires who are nominally the owners of this money, in fact they belong to the leadership of russia, i.e. putin or people from his entourage, and therefore we definitely take russian money in private parentheses, but we must consider it.